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May 4, 2009

The First American Prime Minister In Waiting

Colour Charles Adler unimpressed with the "accidental tourist" leading the Liberal Party of Canada;

Let's talk about the episode in recent history where you accuse the prime minister of not understanding Canada, an interesting statement coming from a man who spent ninety percent of his adult life outside Canada, which I suppose is why you blow that windy stuff around about how the Liberal party is representative of every part of Canadian society. When you were a child living in Canada, you might have been able to say that without drawing gales of laughter. I am not clashing with your long term memory. Like a lot of aging men, it's still intact. It's your short term memory that appears a little foggy and so I go back to your statement at the end of your speech where you are attempting to, as they say in the country that you know much better than Canada, and that would be the USA, as they say in the USA, in that final portion of your speech where you are trying to hit for the fences you accuse Stephen Harper of threatening a national unity crisis by proroguing Parliament. Since you claim to be a public intellectual I know you can handle my depositing of context in the public airing of your failed home run swing.

(Allow me to add - the reference to Saddam Hussein was nothing short of inspired!)

Heh - "Unfortunately these same reports very rudely pointed out that actually some 7,000 delegates were eligible to attend, proving that Michael Ignatieff-mania is going viral especially in the sense that the other 5,500 were apparently not feeling well enough to show up."

Posted by Kate at May 4, 2009 4:58 PM
Comments

A grand slam home run by Adler. I love it.

Posted by: Woodporter at May 4, 2009 5:09 PM

It's clear to me that it matters not what the Liberals say, do or have done.

A government intent on harming western Canada is eminent. Our next move will be to persuade PMSH to return to Calgary, and lead us out of Confederation.JMO

Posted by: Indiana Homez at May 4, 2009 5:11 PM

Absolutely perfect. Perfect analysis.

I'd add only one thing. With reference to Ignatieff's pompous statement that the PM has only one job - 'to unite Canadians' - it wasn't only the Coalition Coup of the Liberals,NDP and Bloc which shows what a brazen liar Ignatieff is. Remember, Ignatieff signed it, and he continued to suggest that it was a possibility.

How about his motion, in the 2006 Liberal leadership race, where he moved that the Liberals should adopt a motion that 'Quebec is a nation'. This, which would require constitutional change, was immediately adopted by the Quebec Liberals. How's that for 'uniting Canadians'?

Then, Duceppe had to get in the act, and he introduced the same wording, as a Motion, in the House of Commons. It would have to be voted on. Harper saved us, saved Canada, by amending the motion to read " Quebecois are a nation within a united Canada'. This switched the definition from Quebec as a geographic territory to the people of Quebec (quebecois) and insisted that they existed as such, only within a united Canada.

Ignatieff, who was after votes from Quebec, was the one to start this original Motion of 'Quebec as a Nation'.

So much for 'uniting Canada'.

Posted by: ET at May 4, 2009 5:14 PM

Adler, that was in the X ring. Iggy has nothing other than more of the same warmed over tax-and-spend Trudeaupian crap that has stifled this country since the 1970's.

I loved his little bit on the "culture of learning" too. What he means by that is a culture and an economy that is thrashing so hard that nothing sits still for five minutes. You have to be constantly moving, changing jobs, taking upgrade courses and generally running like hell to keep from being run the hell over.

I do not want a guy running my country who thinks that would be a good thing.

Posted by: The Phantom at May 4, 2009 5:25 PM

In the entire LPC (unsure how many card carrying members... anyone?) there was only one guy who wanted the job?

And even he only recieved 97% of the vote?


The other 3% must have been too hung to vote from drowning their sorrows at the depths to which thier party has sunk.

Posted by: AtlanticJim at May 4, 2009 5:26 PM

An inspired piece of real journalism Charles! The cat manufactured pitza sauce was subtle and gross but went right to the 'guts' of the Liberano outfit.

Posted by: Jema54 at May 4, 2009 5:27 PM

I, too, am unimpressed by Iggy.

Of course, I, whenever I see the opportunity to do so, will post inconvenient truths about Iggy and the Liberals. And I won't pull my punches. Dirty-fighting Sturmabteilung bully Kinsella might still hit somewhat hard, but he's kind of long in the tooth now and a little slow and awkward and feeble. Not me. ;)

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at May 4, 2009 5:28 PM

errr hung over....

Posted by: AtlanticJim at May 4, 2009 5:28 PM

For those of us not in the listening range of Mr Adler, could you please give me a clue as to when this interview/commentary took place so I may try to look it up in the audio vault? CJOB's website tell me the dude is on weekdays on the Corus network but not when.

Posted by: Texas Canuck at May 4, 2009 5:29 PM

And yes Kate, Adler should be giving you footnotes on his blog at the very least.

How does it feel, having such a massive brain that you think of this stuff before the pros? ~:D

Posted by: The Phantom at May 4, 2009 5:29 PM

Now we must ask ourselves: did Katscella write that squall er..screetch?

Posted by: Jema54 at May 4, 2009 5:29 PM

Ditto Grand Slam, Adler say's it again like it is.
Now if we could only get the Rest of the Media in Canada to stop promoting the "Accidental Tourist" like he is the second coming of christ.
And he is right using the Obama playcard right down to a "carbon copy of the shadow t-shirt"

Posted by: bryanr at May 4, 2009 5:29 PM

Adler is Canada's answer to O'Reilly. The only problem is we don't have a FOX news in Canada. Thank you CRTC!

Posted by: Phil at May 4, 2009 5:37 PM

Jema54, I believe the Kitty Eater did have something to do with some of what Iggy said. That was my impression.

Iggy's accusations against Harper and the Tories were utterly devoid of evidence and didn't remind us of anything specific they had done or hadn't done. They were just nonsense, pure, whizz into the wind nonsense. I suspect that Iggy might've toned down some of what Kitty Eater told him to say.

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at May 4, 2009 5:38 PM

TC

We get him from 1 to 3pm Sask time live. I don't think it's the whole show. I recommend you being weary; this man from time to time will knock it out of the park or recite the poem "How could you?" or "A soldier’s Christmas"(wrong name?) and bring you to tears right at work. Beware!

Posted by: Indiana Homez at May 4, 2009 5:40 PM

Uh,uh, left-fielder MissIggy was playing Dionky Baseball*.

As Yogi said, it gets late early out there.

CA: *"failed home run swing."

Posted by: maz2 at May 4, 2009 5:43 PM

I just don't understand how the liberals have that much support, period. How can people forget the shenanigans with taxpaper money, over and over and over again.

And if it is true that the liberal coffers are full again, should the taxpayer not be first on their list? You would think they would repay the money just so they can get the press. Actually surprised that the advertising dept hasn't been all over that.

Posted by: Anne (not from Cornwall) at May 4, 2009 5:49 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F40jLipUwVY
iggy considers himself as an americam. Someone copy this video, because Iggy will delete it, probably soon!

Posted by: Jim at May 4, 2009 5:52 PM

Follow the money Anne.

Posted by: Indiana Homez at May 4, 2009 5:53 PM

Watching Chuck give someone a well deserved spanking is sweet, this one more so than usual..

Posted by: The Progressive Indian at May 4, 2009 5:59 PM

A couple of words just came to mind wrt Iggy: Delusional and arrogant.

Typical Liberal mentality, of course.

Nothing special about Iggy. He's no savior of the Liberal Party, nor of Canada.

Oh, and I just thought of another word for Iggy, still thinking about his speech: Hypocritical. Also typically Liberal.

Really, Iggy is nothing but another Liberal.

He's barely even a real Canadian. His Canadianness is but an accident of birth. A formality. He's less of a real Canadian than many immigrants, as a matter of fact! Gosh darn, even Obama, who was obviously born in Kenya, is more American that Iggy is Canadian!

Who is he, a de-facto foreigner, to come back to his place of birth, and pretend he's a great Canadian and point his finger at Mr. Harper, a Canadian, 100%, since birth to today, and say Harper doesn't understand Canada? Might as well have just called Harper a stinkybutt poopyhead or something equally nonsensical.

Sheesh... Ignatieff... Blah!

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at May 4, 2009 6:02 PM

It's not very progressive of you to use the word "Indian"; unless, it's sort of like the "n" word; then, carry on:)

Posted by: Indiana Homez at May 4, 2009 6:16 PM

Jim,
I had to endure 4:54 minutes of that arrogant PM wannabe and I did not hear anywhere that he said he was American (not that there is anything wrong with that). Any "we" or "us" clearly refers to the ones being terrorized, as in the modern western civilization. If you want to insult the man and accurately describe him ,then call him a lieberal.

Posted by: Texas Canuck at May 4, 2009 6:18 PM

I'll never forget the day my brother-in-law received his Treaty-card. He proudly displayed it during Chrismas and said "I guess I'm a real Indian now".

Posted by: Indiana Homez at May 4, 2009 6:19 PM

Iggy likes to hear his own voice.The Conservatives should let him hang himself with his own words, he has already changed his tune a number of times depending upon the audience

Posted by: ian at May 4, 2009 6:23 PM

Of course Kinsella wrote that. He knows the lazy MSM will broadcast the voice of Iggy without challenging a word he says.
Also conspicuously absent from the media so-called reporting this w/e was any mention of the low delegate turnout...1/7 of the eligible delegates went to Vancouver to vote in the so called election.
We all know that...but sadly there are still too many that depend on MSM to tell them what to think.
Adler's comment was great, hope you all RTWT.

Monte Solberg discusses the convention too.

http://www.torontosun.com/comment/columnists/monte_solberg/2009/05/04/9339711-sun.html

Posted by: bluetech at May 4, 2009 6:36 PM

What American media covered Iggy, you know the ones Jane Taber breathlessly said would be here to cover our important new leader....LOL

Posted by: Stephen at May 4, 2009 6:38 PM

On Power Play one of the journalists mentioned (chuckling) that someone at the convention brought up the issue of how many previous prime ministers Ignatieff was on good terms with (3) . . . compared to Harper (0). So what do we conclude? I would conclude that Liberals are very much part of a ruling oligarchy. With this information, we can easily ad Ignatieff to Demerais'/Power Corp's collection of prime ministers.

Posted by: LindaL at May 4, 2009 7:08 PM

Annoying how MI reads from the telepromter (almost at his shoulder, so had to swivel his head), also had a fake smile, pointing at people a la Hillary Clinton. Read every word!
Dion was his usual pathetic self and a bitter man.
Martin and Cretin think they are still in government!

Posted by: skipper at May 4, 2009 7:10 PM

This pompous ass has the gall to scold PMSH about national unity? It's only been a few months since Ignatieff quite willingly signed on to the "Coalition of the Swilling".

Who can anyone possibly take this guy seriously? With Ignatieff as Liberal leader, PMSH should easily obtain a majority in the next election.

However, this is Canada, and certain voters seem to develop masochistic tendencies at election time.

Posted by: biffjr. at May 4, 2009 7:17 PM

Texas Canuk

in the Audio Vault
May 4,
1pm
minute 7:45

But don't stop there, continue to 17:15
MUST listen!!! to Adler on the coalition and Iffy attacking PMSH....

Posted by: wilson at May 4, 2009 7:19 PM

I get the sense that Adler probably won't be voting for Iggy. Not sure though. :-)


Texas Canuck: I built something especially perfect for ex-pats like you who like to stay informed. You can find it here. I'm thinking of expanding it to play U.S. radio stations too.

Posted by: Robert W. at May 4, 2009 7:34 PM

Iggy brings to mind..diazopam. I surely would not like being taught by this guy. Why I think the Liberals have support is some people feel the need to help the victims in life. Of course to help victims you need to have victims. They feel superior to the average citizen and somewhat patronizing, feeling sorry for lessor beings. If you took some of them into the bush they would never survive. I think it is overcompensation for their own feelings of worth. If all you have is social skills you are probably a Liberal. Kind of NDP of the white collar but the NDP see themselves as victims and the Liberals see themselves as the gentry. Canada's natural governing party pretty much makes a long story short. Then again what the H do I know?

Posted by: Speedy at May 4, 2009 7:45 PM

Adler, like all rightwingers, just can't stand the reality that Harpo is DONE. Liberals are surging in the polls in Ontario, Quebec and Atlantic Canada as well as in BC. Only redneck Alberta and Sask. will the Conservative maintain any hold. I hope we have an election soon and we will see a Liberal majority. Thank god.

Posted by: T at May 4, 2009 7:52 PM

T...during real elections there are more than one name on the ballot.

Posted by: bluetech at May 4, 2009 7:58 PM

Our Prime Minister Carpetbagger-in-Waiting.

Posted by: Fred at May 4, 2009 8:05 PM

And T...red necks are important.
Libs say so.
There was even a session on "Rural Canada Matters."

Posted by: bluetech at May 4, 2009 8:16 PM

This is what happens when you try to palm off catnip as high grade skunk to sophisticated Vancouver liberals.
Iggy is the cat’s meow but his catnip has passed the best before date.

Posted by: Bernie at May 4, 2009 8:46 PM

T for Troll. As in, "Don't Feed."

Posted by: Colin from Mission B.C. at May 4, 2009 10:17 PM

I read there were 408 people at the convention on Sunday where policy was discussed. Was there a hockey game on?

Posted by: Speedy at May 4, 2009 11:09 PM

The difference between Harper and Ignatieff and how they appeal to REAL grass roots Canadians:

Harper and his family take in homeless kittens to foster for the SPCA like thousands of REAL grass roots Canadians do.

Ignatieff orders an expensive purebred exotic cat from a breeder in Vancouver (his genetic elite equal I guess) and the taxpayer pays for one of his flacky MP's, Martin, to fly this thousand dollar elite kitty to Ottawa.

Like hardly any grass roots Canadians would ever think of doing considering so many homeless cats need homes.

Ignatieff - it is YOU who does not understand Canada.

Posted by: Lorraine at May 4, 2009 11:11 PM

Speedy -- They told a bunch of addicts they were giving away free drugs and needles . Otherwise there would only have been 150 .

Posted by: cantuc at May 4, 2009 11:16 PM

As soon as Iggy says he speaks for anyone other than himself or the LPC kleptocrats ..... he lies.

Arrogant (insert expletive) all who imply with everything they say, that if you don't accept their assertions of being your betters then you are not worthy of being or calling yourself "Canadian".

This is one great reason to detest all LIberals.

Ignatieff is simply LIberal personified.

Posted by: OMMAG at May 4, 2009 11:38 PM

Ignatieff lived most of his adult life in Britain not the United States, so get your facts straight. He only lived five years in the US. Also he only holds one citizenship which is Canadian. Sure I wish he had lived here longer, but he was born a Canadian and his heart has always been with Canada.

Posted by: Miles Lunn at May 4, 2009 11:50 PM

"Ignatieff lived most of his adult life in Britain not the United States, ..."

That actually makes it worse for me.
That place has gone bat-sh*t crazy with PCisms.
Why would we want a politician who lives easily with that nonsense?

Posted by: ldd at May 5, 2009 12:05 AM

1.Adler and others like him - rutherford et al saw their ratigns leap to never before seen levels during the separatist coalition attempt (number one) They saw that nothing before it had ever energized english canada as much as it did (quebec not so much). ratings = money. therefore these media people will not let the coalition threat/idea die. And Canadians are tuned into the issue more than any other. Iggy signed on and he will wear it with or without active effort by the CP - these media guys will see to it.

2. The kicker to the low attendance may be that at least in all past liberal conventions all delegates had their travel costs paid one hundred percent by the party. I stand to be corrected, but i am pretty sure that that funding policy was in force for this past weekend's convention.

I guess it would be more accurate to say that something like sixty percent of those travel costs were paid for by canadian taxpayers.

Perhaps the government of CDA should have insisted they have some banners and verbal acknowledgement - "this convention brought to you in part by the government of canada (and funds not repaid from adscam)"

3. Today Iggy demanded that the conservatives establish one uniform EI qualification period for the whole country. On the face of it I wholeheartedly support that idea. However, the period Iggy is insisting upon is 360 hours - the lowest level currently in place in places like NL. How high would the national rate jump if only ten weeks of work got you 42 weeks of EI anywhere in Canada? And since self-employed fishermen get EI- something Iggy has not said would be removed - shouldn't self-employed farmers be eligible for the dole too?

But of course this is coming from the party that was found guilty by the SCOC of stealing 50 plus billion from workers and employers.

And since he hasn't lived here much he probably isn't aware of the nuances and history of the EI system - and lots of other things too, I bet.

Posted by: Gord Tulk at May 5, 2009 12:05 AM

Actually Britain is probably more conservative than Canada albeit not as Conservative as the United States. I somehow doubt someone could run on policies similiar to Thatcher and win nationally here. Britain is probably equivalent in terms of political leanings to English Canada and considering the Tories got 43% last time around in English Canada and average around that in Britain that is probably a better comparison.

Posted by: Miles Lunn at May 5, 2009 12:18 AM

"Ignatieff lived most of his adult life in Britain not the United States, so get your facts straight."

I'm well aware of that.

However, as Iggy has refered to himself as an American on multiple occasions, I've chosen to take him at his word. And as he now leads a party that has made fully 30% of its historical electoral fortunes on American bashing, things ought to become interesting.

As for the "heart in Canada" crap? It's crap. Actually, it's more than crap - it's a campaign slogan - "Canada - not worth living in unless you can be Prime Minister." Because that's the singular reason he's here today, and if he doesn't achieve it, he'll move back.

Posted by: Kate at May 5, 2009 12:21 AM

Question: Why does Ignatieff brag about knowing people in Obama's administration and that he can "pick up the phone to them anytime".

This spells trouble for both sides.
Is not political influence peddling against the law? (ask Larry O'Brien about that one). And, how would Obama like the fact that his staffers would give confidential information to an opposition politician from another country?

Don't you think that Obama's Ignatieff friend staffers would/should refuse to answer the phone from him if they want to keep their jobs. After all, with Ignatieff's irritating habit of "name dropping" anything they tell him would make it to the media to score points against Harper.

And, the media sure do make hay whenever one of Harper's former collegues or friends get any kind of appointment or profile - merit based or not.
How about the same treatment for Ignatieff?

Posted by: Lorraine at May 5, 2009 12:54 AM

Another homerun by Charles. He's the best!

Posted by: Soccermom at May 5, 2009 1:01 AM

not so sure the uk is more conservative than cda. Were someone to run on Maggie's platform TODAY they would loose in the UK.

Posted by: Gord Tulk at May 5, 2009 1:31 AM

" ... his heart has always been with Canada."

I didn't know that ... that changes everything!!!!

Posted by: ural at May 5, 2009 1:57 AM

but he was born a Canadian and his heart has always been with Canada.
Posted by: Miles Lunn at May 4, 2009 11:50 PM

Typical, emotionally-driven, liberal clap trap. Much like the entirety of Iggy's Saturday night speech.

What is it with Liberal party supporters? Long on emotion and platitudes, but extremely short on pragmatism and results-driven policy.

Posted by: Colin from Mission B.C. at May 5, 2009 2:20 AM

Must add:

When the Liberals were last in power, before they were defeated, separatism sentiment and intent in Quebec and the West were at all-time highs.

I had predicted that if they won again, then it would've likely spelled the end of Confederation. Canadians really didn't want Liberals anymore, and would rather sacrifice the Federation than suffer from those crooks any longer. Like the wolf chewing off his paw to get out of the trap. The Liberals were, and still are, THAT bad.

But they were thrown out.

And since, well, look at how much the serapartist threats everywhere have been put into comas.

So the fact of the matter is that because of Harper's Conservatives, Canada is united, period.

Ignatieff is therefore just full of crap. Again, typical for a Liberal.

Maybe Warrin' Kantsellya the Reptilian Kitten Eater has poisoned Iggy's brain? Maybe Iggy needs to separate himself from the professional attack clown...

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at May 5, 2009 6:02 AM

jeez iggy could get buckets of money out of this. just think pension from u.s., pension from harvard, pension from house of commons and maybe top that up with the p.m. pension. what a great country to be a politican in.

Posted by: old white guy at May 5, 2009 7:04 AM

I would believe him when he says his heart has always been in CDA and that he has been working lifelong to get to this point if he didn't deliver it with the emotion of an anglican minister.

Posted by: Gord Tulk at May 5, 2009 8:33 AM

Rural Canada Matters

I'll bet that MI and most of his cronies don't even know what time it is in Saskatchewan.

Posted by: glasnost at May 5, 2009 10:58 AM
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