Now is the time at SDA when we juxtapose!
Toronto Star, March 2008: "Obama would win in Canada: Poll"
National Post, April 2009: "It boils down to the fact a very large number of Canadian companies, who have been competing in the U. S. for decades, have been told overnight that they can't sell to the U. S."
Posted by Kate at May 1, 2009 8:58 AMso much sizzle, so little steak.
Let the entranced mob enjoy their starvation.
Posted by: Fred at May 1, 2009 8:58 AMBy and large the same Canadians who have Obamagasims are the ones who were against the free trade deal. I am sure they are all very happy that all those horrible profit making, employee exploiting companies can no longer trade with the Great Satan. Besides it is better for the environment if we all buy local.
Posted by: Fritz at May 1, 2009 9:15 AMDidn't Obama squirm a bit when our Prime Minister challenged him on his protectionist policy in at the press conference in Ottawa?
This is going to be most challenging for the media.
How will they spin this...What did the Big O really say and what did he really mean?
I hope PM Harper and Day come out strong this.
Change!
Posted by: Norman at May 1, 2009 9:24 AMthis just in from nancy poooo:
"back in the day it was noted that before a black man would become president, pigs would fly.
a hundred days into obama's presidency, swine flu."
resume party.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by: FREE at May 1, 2009 9:27 AMso few in Canaduh realize that they get to enjoy the "free" health care because they live under the umbrella of the US military. and you cant thank the Dems for that.
only the Red Star would launch such a stupid poll.
I cant wait to see the Dems shut the borders to keep the frost backs out and here the cry of CBCpravda , CTVtass and the Red Star . Whaaaat us?
Posted by: cal2 at May 1, 2009 9:28 AMSaw a bumper sticker beside an Obama 08 bumper sticker that sums it up pretty well:
I MISS W!
Posted by: robp at May 1, 2009 9:33 AMGeorge Soros' for President!
His hatred of Bush will destroy America. Not that he cares...
Say, what has George done for this planet? What has he created? Other than manipulating pieces of paper? And given the Left what they truly, truly love with all their enormous hearts: free money.
Posted by: Shaken at May 1, 2009 9:38 AMLiberroids: swooning over empty suits; foreign and domestic. Unaffordable ... worlwide.
Posted by: b_C at May 1, 2009 9:43 AMI wonder how long it will be before the One decides that the deal on Chrysler includes the right to repatriate the jobs and we see our multi billion dollar "investment" disappear down the rat hole. Kevin O'leary called chrysler a roach hotel of an investment. Gotta love it.
Posted by: Brian Mallard at May 1, 2009 9:49 AMYou have to remember that the election campaign of Obama was a something akin to mass hysteria.
The economic policy, if he had any, did not make sense (see the results), though those that worship Obama did not listen, not that the guy said something other than “change”. That seems to have satisfied over 50% of otherwise sensible population.
It is seriously doubtful that they comprehend; they really don’t want to, the trouble the guy is in process of creating.
The mania is ongoing and will not end any time soon. There is a brick wall at the end though and its full speed ahead.
Canadians for the most part being taught to be warm and fuzzy, supported Obama because he is from the victim category. It is some kind of racism to support someone based solely on their shade of skin.
It is true though that Obama promised absolutely nothing, save change. And change it is, that appealed to a lot of people for some reason or no reason at all.
The republicans have no plan, they seem to be lost.
I'm pretty sure that jmmy carter was and still is held in higher regard in CDA than he ever was in the US and he never did this countries any favours either.
BOs popularity and bush's and Reagans lacking in popularity north of the forty ninth has more to do with our pathetic reflexive anti-Americanism than it has to do with any basis in fact. American leaders who are less assertive of american views on the world stage are thus held in higher regard.
We are pathetically ignorant of this reality.
Posted by: Gord Tulk at May 1, 2009 10:03 AMThe Yankee "free traders" are in ascendancy. For them, fair and free trade consists of commerce where they win and everyone else loses. It has always been that way.
If the potential damage from these protectionist policies wasn't so great, I, too would enjoy the spectacle of all the enraptured, Obama-lovin-Bush-hatin' Canucks getting royally screwed.
Posted by: JMD at May 1, 2009 10:09 AMOn the same page in a link:
http://www.nationalpost.com/related/links/story.html?id=1479423
"A controversial U. S. meat-labelling law has thrown the domestic livestock sector into crisis as major U. S.-based processors refuse to buy Canadian swine and cattle due to the added red tape the regulation entails."
Posted by: BB at May 1, 2009 10:09 AMAn afterthought to my comment above: Perhaps Canada should be seeking other customers for its tar sands oil since the current customers are acting hostile.
Posted by: JMD at May 1, 2009 10:25 AM"Say, what has George done for this planet? What has he created?"
How about a free Iraq ?
And a resurgence in the sales of large belt buckles.
Posted by: pok at May 1, 2009 10:30 AMShaken and pok...
2 George's...one question.
clarification please.
Fred covered it. You can't eat the sizzle.
Posted by: The Phantom at May 1, 2009 10:36 AMBottom line is that the vast majority of humanity is populated by barely sentient beings incapable of intelligent, rational thought.
So of course Obama is popular in Canada whilst simultaneously screwing us and ignoring US-signed treaty obligations. Canadians (like people everywhere) are too stupid to know better - and the media is their puppet master.
Too bad the hurt doesn't fall on the government workers who deserve it more than even the private unions do.
Posted by: Warwick at May 1, 2009 10:48 AMOk, show of hands - who didn't see this coming?
I've got a bridge I wanna sell you.
Posted by: mojo at May 1, 2009 10:53 AMThis is a surprise to anyone? The Rep. were not great on open borders but at least paid lip service to the idea. The Dem's have a long history of screwing Canada.
Posted by: Colin at May 1, 2009 10:54 AMJuxtapose !! A great, great addition to your posts' lineup.
Nothing hits as hard, nothing jolts the senses more, than a comparison.
So easy these days to see the scam that is most media orgs. Thank you, Blogs. Thank you, ordinary citizens.
Posted by: ron in kelowna at May 1, 2009 11:04 AMWhy would anyone expect a lawyer and community organizer to know anything about Smoot-Hawley in particular or Economics in general.
Posted by: POWinCA at May 1, 2009 11:26 AMIgnorance by self rule sums up nicely what has befallen us in North America and pretty much Europe too, although in the old countries they don't seem to be as addicted to celebrity worshipping; at least when it comes to their political leaders. In Europe their just lefty socialist but they know who they are at least.
Here it's a spoiled to the core society of navel gazing fools with high tech toys in one hand, which passes as essential and mind numbing/instant gratification recreation in the other hand: Either be drugs, legal or otherwise, to high fat, salt and sugar intake to mind numbing TV and video games.
Shallow is cool. Pensive and historical is boring and old fashion. Responsability is not individualism but collectivism now.
The last US election was pretty much no more than another version of American Idol. No more, no less.
BTW, here in Canada, where Obama would win an election, our beloved Liberals are voicing an election. Jean Chretien is telling them to pull the plug ASAP.
The reason is clear: Ride the Obamagasm while it's still on strong. Portray Harper as a Bush leftover. Show Iggy as Obama's best friend from Harvard.
The majority of youth and female voters in this country will fall for it.
Ladies, before you come back screaming "sexist!"; Do your homework. The majority of women are socialistic in nature and thrive on security and stability. It is a natural instinct for the female. There are exeptions like anything else though: Kate, Kathy Shaidle, Ann Coulter for example.
It is to note that more and more males are joining the fray. Big cities are incubators for that. Effeminate metro sexual males are "formed" from birth. Witness Stephane Dion as a prime example.
The porcine MSM no longer calls swine flu swine flu.
The left's political correctness virus in action.
...-
"WHO reports 331 confirmed cases of H1N1 flu"
(ctv)
Obama isn't going to shut Canada out forever. He needs our oil (although being cozy with Venezuela mitigates things a bit), and, when more and more Americans realize how badly they've been screwed over, Obama is going to need Canadian votes. That's the point where his counting of the states (57, wasn't it?) will become very, very accurate.
Alaska gets the territories, and the Maritimes become one. There are 6 other province/states, and that makes the 57, folks. Iggy can become governor of Ontario.
Posted by: kakola at May 1, 2009 11:54 AMGeorge W. was the most pro-Canadian US president in my lifetime. But looking after Canadian interests just isn't part of the job description.
It was evident even before last year's primaries that Hillary Clinton was viciously anti-Canadian. Obama? A narcissist (which Mr. Harper et al. played to, as they should have) but with a feel for his constituency - which currently is isolationist perhaps as never before.
I would conlclude from the relatively easy treatment of the major US banks, in return for the massive amounts of money they provided to US congressthingies including Barack Obama, that it would be advisable for the Canadian government to provide massive subsidies for US politicians. One billion dollars (US, please) to key Congresspeople is likely to do more for Canadian
industry than 10 billion dollars to Canaedian industry in stimulus and support.
Stinks, doesn't it?
maz2
They renamed it so that people didn't stop eating pork which isn't how it's transmitted.
Pork farmers are obviously worried about losing money.
Posted by: Warwick at May 1, 2009 11:55 AMLiberals choose style over substance all the time. This is just another example in a long long list.
Posted by: Soccermom at May 1, 2009 11:57 AM"Say, what has George done for this planet? What has he created?"
How about a free Iraq ?
And a resurgence in the sales of large belt buckles.
Posted by: pok at May 1, 2009 10:30 AM
pok, I think Shaken was referring to Soros with this question, not Bush.
Posted by: Colin from Mission B.C. at May 1, 2009 11:58 AMOk, show of hands - who didn't see this coming?
I've got a bridge I wanna sell you.
Posted by: mojo at May 1, 2009 10:53 AM
No kidding mojo. As a disinterested observer from Canada of last year's political machinations in the U.S., I watched with amazement how Zero was able to hookwink a willingly hoodwinkable population, with complicity from the usual suspects in the MSM.
However, it was clear to see for all who were willing to simply open their eyes that everything that Zero is doing was predicted by many of us six months ago.
Posted by: Colin from Mission B.C. at May 1, 2009 12:02 PMCanadians tend to align themselves with image rather than substance and I think this is, in part, due to their heritage as a colony and then, as a member of the Commonwealth.
In both instances, government was 'out of their individual hands'. Americans, on the other hand, decided in 1776 to govern themselves. Canada never made that decision. Trudeau's malicious action merely set up an elitist and isolate mandarin class centred in Ottawa (only bilinguals need apply and that means only those living in Montreal-Ottawa).
We don't 'take matters into our own hands' - and that's why the Liberal Party, which is a socialist elitist class, has governed the country for so long.
The rise of the West, which is not part of this elitist Ottawa-Montreal bilingual class, has disturbed the status quo. Here, we see the rise of individualism, the middle class, entrepreneurship - and the Conservative Party.
As can be seen, the Liberals, true to form, have moved into their bedrock - Quebec and Ontario. And our Charter and Constitution, as set up by Trudeau - privileges Quebec and gives it the essential power to decide on our govt. We saw that in that vicious Liberal-NDP attack on our democracy of last year, when the Coalition set up the Bloc, a party confined to the Quebec electorate, as totally, completely, in charge of that coalition, It agreed to support all confidence motions..without even reading them. That's responsible govt?
So, Canadians have to decide - do they still want to be chattels - whether it be of Britain or the Ottawa-Montreal bilingual Clique - or - do we want to be free?
Posted by: ET at May 1, 2009 12:07 PMjmd....Don't you mean Alberta's tar sands?
wrt Obama
"Be careful what you wish for" seems to apply here. If I recall correctly, Obama had 70 to 80% of Canadians that would vote for him. At the time John McCain said to Canadians clearly that he supported free-trade with Canada, while Obama was in Ohio saying he’d renegotiate NAFTA. I’m puzzled as to why this is an issue now, but it wasn’t then. Not!
So to those that are concerned about their union manufacturing jobs; please forgive me if I can't hear your whining over the sound of my violin that I got from Wal-Mart for $5.
Elizabeth May had it all figured out correctly - Canadians are stupid.
Posted by: Adam at May 1, 2009 12:25 PMColin from Mission B.C.: "everything that Zero is doing was predicted by many of us six months ago"
Not much of a prediction given that The Won told everyone he was going to fundamentally change America, that the Constitution was flawed, that he would bankrupt the coal industry, that he was going to spread the wealth, etc.
Posted by: Kathryn at May 1, 2009 12:42 PMYes, I was referring to Soros with my question about what he has accomplished.
And, my observation that the Left wants more than anything Free Money, and the hypocrisy we witness daily from this lot stems from attempting to avoid being up front with that ethic, and instead spew disjoint rationalizations.
It's easy to win elections promising Free Money. Hey, it's ethical to take it because it came from Rich People, who exploited the Poor People to get it.
Free Money is what allows you to justify a job dispensing free needles in clinics for victims... you don't have to produce anything, just like our friend George Soros. Master of currency arbitrage, sure, craftsman of anything tangible or useful? No.
There is no such thing as Free Money. Unless you are in Zimbabwe... where the paper is free if you have the strength to carry it away.
Posted by: Shaken at May 1, 2009 12:54 PMOK, here's the deal:
We will trade you Obama for three future NHL draft picks and two slabs of Canadian Bacon. Throw in some moose and we'll give you Biden.
Then again, if you can wait two years you could probably pull off an invasion of the US by your military forces. Before you were stopped you could end up with everything north of a line from Boston to Chicago to Las Vegas.
But of course, that also gives you Detroit.
Posted by: Yoop at May 1, 2009 12:57 PMYoop,
You can't stick us with Obama for anything you've got to give us to take him off your hands.
And keep Detroit, too.
Posted by: Warwick at May 1, 2009 1:01 PMI was telling my Brit friends that Obama is a protectionist. They are starting to understand that it is true and that they were better off with Bush. Of course the BBC would run propaganda pieces every few months intending to inflame the Brits against Bush, saying how some UK industry or other was getting the shaft in Iraq contracts, or US contracts, or whatever. I wonder if the series will continue now? No I don't.
Posted by: tim in vermont at May 1, 2009 1:17 PM"Elizabeth May had it all figured out correctly - Canadians are stupid.
Posted by: Adam at May 1, 2009 12:25 PM "
As much as I detest the beaver face...she WAS right!!! Only I would of narrowed it down to TO,MO,and OT.Unfortunately...they control the vote.
Posted by: Justthinkin at May 1, 2009 1:21 PMH1N1 flu? Probably caught it from sharing a grease gun with R2D2.
Is this mess being touted as the second greatest pandemic of all time just so the great "0" can save us? It seems to me and my feeble memory that SARS had greater numbers as well as the last bird or avian flu outbreak in S.E. Asia.
Posted by: Texas Canuck at May 1, 2009 1:24 PMIn Saskatchewan, we'd keep the salvaged lumber to build a smokehouse or a fishing shack! What a waste. I don't think Obama was directly responsible for this kind of ingnorance! This is not a political problem--it's plain dysfuntional behaviour!
Posted by: Jack Frosst at May 1, 2009 1:28 PMPosted by: Warwick at May 1, 2009 1:01 PM
"Yoop,
You can't stick us with Obama for anything you've got to give us to take him off your hands.
And keep Detroit, too."
Well, I tried.
If you decide to go ahead with the invasion invitation then there are probably a bunch of those red necks, stump jumpers and righ wing militia types that will help you along the way. One hundred and three days of Obama can cause that kind of reaction.
Posted by: Yoop at May 1, 2009 1:56 PM103 days of the Great Onlightenment behind us, 1358 to go.
Posted by: kakola at May 1, 2009 2:16 PMMy sincere hope is that every canuck who loses his or her job as a result of this is an anti-bush, harper-hating obama droid.
That'd be just too rich to savour, except those people will be the ones too dumb to get the irony.
mhb23re
at gmail d0t calm
Obama has done an OK job.
Posted by: Jesse Ketchup at May 1, 2009 3:00 PMTOTUS is no fan of NAFTA, he's said so many times. But it looks bad if he cancels it . . . much better to give assurances but in fact provoke Canada into a trade war.
Mission accomplished !
I glanced at the G&M financial sec'n today (it's free in our lounge) and it looks like Obama's getting some push back from the big funds wrt the Chrysler bailout. When Obama tried the usual anti-Wall St. nonsense the the funds pointed out that they were the pensions and savings of main street Americans -- and the G&M reported it! Could it be that the cat is beginning to eat its own tail?
As it comes to Canadians supporting Obama, especially after his anti free trade remarks, it absolutely beggars belief that Canadians can be so myopic. Unfortunately, it points out that for so many Canadian voters it's all about feelings -- hard economic facts be damned. And given that the educational system is unwilling or incapable of teaching economics (actual economics not lefty fluff), the economic illiteracy of the general public shows no sign of abating.
Posted by: DrD at May 1, 2009 3:15 PMI think the Globe and Mail does a good job.
Posted by: Jesse Ketchup at May 1, 2009 3:31 PMDrD:
Obama attempted to demonize the hedge fund managers who did not go along with the deal.
Even though Obama tried to run an end-around on this issue, the hedge fund managers are taking this to court where a judge is compelled to follow bankruptcy law.
It's true that many pensioners have depended on the hedge funds for retirement income ... and this will all come out in court.
To the left wing who have used the courts to push social agendas ... payback's a bitch.
Posted by: set you free at May 1, 2009 3:45 PMThis is a huge huge surprise that the Democratic Party in the US is pursuing a protectionist policy. I think we should send Carolyn Parrish to negotiate some sense into those Damn Americans.
Posted by: Steve at May 1, 2009 5:07 PMhow long do you jokers think the u.s. is going to last after the coming civil war. they will be part of canada. we will be using the canadian dollar and passports will not be required to visit flordia.
Posted by: old white guy at May 1, 2009 5:26 PMmany of the money changer elites (hedge funds, banks and mtg brokerages)are essentially liberals, thusly Owebama is pissing on his own parade when he challenges this lot, and they will turn on him, so his own base, voter and fiscal, will shrink over time
Posted by: GYM at May 1, 2009 5:30 PMI think the Lefties generally are in for a mega shock. We are going to have -more- nationalization of major industry and banking. We are going to have income redistribution that is going to make the middle class bleed and the upper classes flee. We are going to see large formations of men marching around under banners like ACORN.
BTW for all the Lefties that pretended shock and horror over the Bush waterboarding "torture" stuff. You wait and see what happens to opponents of the USA under the DemocRat controlled gubmint. Waterboarding will seem like a pleasant summer memory from the good old days.
A while ago I said I thought Obama wanted to remake America into Sweden. I changed my mind. He's going for the Full Monty, complete with Obama Youth. This business with Chrysler, its got National Socialist all over it.
We do 80% of our business with the USA. We don't make anything here. We don't even make welding gas here. If a -real- trade war gets going with them, our economy is going to tank so hard...
Posted by: The Phantom at May 1, 2009 5:31 PMMaybe we'll start m aking welding gas and some of the other things we get abroad.
Posted by: Jesse Ketchup at May 1, 2009 6:46 PMhere's an article outlining how students, families, double income families and pensioners - in fact, a large part of the middle class, will be hard hit by Obama's vote-buying tactic of 'giving a tax-break to 95% of Americans'!!
Well, sure, you'll get $400, or 600, or 800 this May. Part of his 'stimulus package'. Enjoy it. Spend it. But next April tax time, you'll have to REPAY it. It's income; and it will be taxed.
Heh - how's that for conning the American people and actually buying himself votes with their own money?
Posted by: ET at May 1, 2009 7:25 PMIt's time to start scouting around for a "gulch" methinks...
Posted by: Richard Evans at May 1, 2009 7:29 PMLike stated before it's like observing a gigantic train wreck in real time, not even slow motion,
- just a bit more hard steel track errosion every day.
Putting in a garden this year and plan to entertain at home a lot, instead of vacationing off somewhere else.
Posted by: ldd at May 1, 2009 8:34 PMEsther/CBC will not use O'swine flu.
The swine.
Fire. Them. All.
...-
"Inside CBC News
Esther Enkin
We are not renaming swine flu"
(OBC)
how did the trojan horse egonatieff fly in to Canada?
There are no bigger enemies in this country than slimebag liberals/socialists.
Jesse, all that stuff used to get made right here in Hamilton. Right down on Burlington St. I remember the Studebaker factory used to be there, my Dad showed me all the time when I was a kid.
No more. And it will be a stone b1tch to rebuild all that manufacturing too, with just the capital we have in this country.
That's another thing that comes in from off shore.
Posted by: The Phantom at May 1, 2009 11:06 PMCTV's Roger Smith beating the drum for Ignatieff at the convention. It will be Iggy, Iggy and Iggy from now on I fear.
Sault Ste Marie, Ontario, waiting with baited breath for any trade restrictions on steel. The main employer Essar Steel (formerly Algoma Steel) has jobs like gold- if the workers can hang on to em'.
Saw photographer Callie Shell giving an overview of her photographs of President Obama in the White House.
She spoke as if she were describing a deity. That in itself is somewhat disturbing at what has been wrought. The man is flesh and blood of course.
Obama is a socialist pig, and all socialist pigs behave the same.
Posted by: RW at May 2, 2009 8:20 PMIn Obyone's victory world tour, he spent a lot of time shaking hands with, and apologizing to, socialist duictators.
Now one of them, Chavez, has demanded The One put up, and show change.
I guess he means, he be congratulated for nationalizing US oil companies in Venezuala. Or, maybe, release his US bank accounts, or send better hookers, or something.
Posted by: RW at May 2, 2009 8:34 PM