If the media won't report it, it has ethnic overtones, that you can be sure of.

All journalists come from schools of journalism, or at very least some major in the humanities...

Yesterday, a couple of people (I was one of them) jokingly suggested that Saskatchewan needed tougher machete control. Everybody here was intelligent enough to realize that it was not a serious suggestion. Once again, lefties prove that it's not possible to parody them.

You'll all recall the proposed knife ban in the UK a few years back? Which was followed by a proposed glass bottle ban as well, because those are quite a common murder weapon also.

Last I heard neither went through, although thats a shame isn't it? Surely the state will eventually be able to ban every concievable murder weapon out there, right?

In our nearby town, one home-invasion crew's weapon of choice were base-ball bats........

Further to Junker's comment:

phantomsoapbox.blogspot.com/2009/03/no-you-are-not-paranoid-enough.html

Knife control remains a large political issue in Britain. Back in the 1990's Tokyo banned aluminum baseball bats due to gang bangers preferring them over wood.

This media behavior is CULTURAL. They all do it without even thinking about it. Restrict, control, ban. These are the only answers to crime liberals can conceive. They form the sides of the box which is liberal culture.

"Uninterested", for God's sake.

Agree with Western Canadian (10:22), but if baseball needs to be banned then the upward mobility of the players from the Dominican will be jeopordized and the famous phrase "base-a-ball has been berry berry goo-od to me" will no longer be heard.

Those blasted retailers selling knives. We need a methodical crack down on all lethal weapons.

We have taken care of guns with the registry so we know there won't be anymore crime with those things. Now we need to identify all stores that sell knives and boycott them. Next, any store that sells baseball bats. Finally all stores that sell rope. We must eliminate strangulation.

I think those are the only ways people can be harmed or killed. That should bring about peace and harmony in our blessed multicultural society.

So noted, Radish.

And they claim blogs lack editors....

Tyical knee-jerk libralism, every time something bad happens we better bet a ban, law or tax on it as soon as possible because individuals are not bad, nor responsible for their actions, it is our destructive society that makes these terrible crimes possible.

When are people going to have enough of this nonsense, when they wake up to the National Alarm Clock, take the National Train to their US/Canada Auto Partnership Government Job at GM?

Also coming soon to the ban list: swimming pools, alcohol, sex, and crime.

Get ready for the long knife registry . . .

stepladders . . . biggest killer in the home.

Must be banned.

Now.

Having been involved in this issue politically for longer than I care to remember, I don't see any vast communist conspiracy in this irrational response to violence.

Suffice to say that ideologues in the media and politics cannot accept the fact that their utopian policies concerning crime, an armed and empowered public, and justice are deeply flawed. They see proof daily and all they have to offer is ..."well we need MORE of the stuff that didn't stop crime, to the point of unconstitutional despotism and mass legislated criminalization of the innocent....to reaffirm our faith in fallacious idealism.

One of the new conservative movement’s (principled realism) most important insights is that ALL ideologies are wrong. Ideology takes an intellectual system, a product of one or more philosophers, and says; “This world view must be so true, it's beyond debating.” Inevitably, reality ends up contradicting the “ideal” system, usually on a growing number of points and with increased frequency. But the absolutist ideology, by its nature, cannot adjust to reality; to do so would be to abandon the "belief" system.

Therefore, to the ideologue ideologically incongruent realities must be blindly denied and suppressed and the reality challenged ideology ferociously defended and reaffirmed by the unrepentant absolutist ideologue. If the ideology has power, it uses its power to undertake this suppression.

This is why we see non criminal civilian gun bans as a popular ideal in GTA where 100% of their gun crimes are committed by criminals operating outside existing gun control systems. This does not seem oximoronic to them as they are so steeped in the BELIEF that repressing non criminals rids us of crime. It seems logical when your rationale is fundamentally flawed by your ideological dogmatism blinds you to reason, reality and functional thought processes.

I propose a ban on hands, or at least a Hand Registry.

Think of the benefits: no punching, strangling with bare hands, slapping, poking fingers in eyes. And as a side benefit -- can't use knives, machetes, guns, baseball bats, steer vehicles into crowds of pedestrians, and more!

We could set up little hand guillotines in each region so that people can do self-severance.

One potential unintended consequence is that there is a possibility of an increase of kicking deaths. But I have a plan for that too!

No stone should be unregistered, so when police goes to someone house, they know there could be stones and sticks.

Good thing they didn't use hockey sticks.

Machete hackers ... another wonderful gift from the multicultural world Liberals have given Canada. Now, visiting Saskatchewan can be as exotic as visiting Africa ...

If I decide to vacation in Saskatoon, I may employ another cultural import, this one from the American culture, I will carry a big honkin' gun.

SC: elbows.

Then there's the ever popular Glasgow Kiss. It works better if you grab the guy's lapels, but there is also an "unarmed" version.

"She says once the transaction is completed there is no way to track where the weapons go, who purchased them, or for what purpose."

Alternate quotes we're likely to see:

"She says once the tree is cut down there is no way to track where the wood goes, who purchased it, or for what purpose. Ordinary people could be making dangerous spears with it, she added."

"She says once the mint distributes the rolls of quarters, and Wal-Mart sells the 12 pair of socks for 6.99 there's no way to prevent people from getting a hold of both, or knowing why they did so."

"She says once the transaction is completed, there is no way to track where the hockey sticks go, who purchased them, or for what purpose. Hockey is a national pastime, she added, but in the interest of public safety, we need a hockey stick registry."

Oops looks like someone beat me to the hockey stick comment ;) Posted in the wrong thread.

Well, if we must ban things to make a safer world, practically everything at Canadian Tire can be used as a weapon, including the tires,especially if you install them on a car!

Just take a look at all the axes in the Camping Supplies area, sheer mayhem on the hoof!

And Wal-Mart's kitchen section! Butcher knives by the dozen!

The B.C. government suggested the solution to all violence a while back, in response to all the gang shootings on Vancouver streets; ban bullet proof vests.

I'm not enough of an intellectual to make the connection there, but our government knows best.

Perhaps Saskatoon should ban thick sweaters and leather jackets, extrapolating the same logic.

I’ve been a student of the Martial art of iaido, (http://www.uoguelph.ca/~iaido/ ) for ten years now.

In class I use a live blade, (ie shaper then hell). In North America/Europe/Japan I have never heard of a legitimate practitioner of the Martial arts using a weapon outside of the dojo in the commission of a crime.

There is now a sword ban in place in the UK. You must belong to a MA club or be a collector to own a sword. Apparently bayonets, kitchen knives, baseball bats, field hockey sticks, lean pipes, tree branches, utility knives, bottles, screwdrivers, big ass rocks, axes or sharpened pieces of metals are still okay to own.

Banning swords and knives are a knee jerk reaction to the violence. If you want to hurt someone badly enough, you’ll find away to do it.

Banning swords in Japan lead to the adaptation of farm implements as weapons, now used in Martial Arts.

And hell, since I'm (Anglo)Saxon, it's part of my heritage to own and carry a sword, Saxon meaning People of the Sword (Sax), just as it is for Sikhs to carry a kirpin.

Why bother with Walmart or CTC when any maniac can equip themselves at a local dollar store?

Any martial arts expert can hurt as many people as they want, but god forbid you ever mention that! You will be labeled a criminal and may end up with light show in front of your house. God forbid you happen to be a gun owner too - your collection may end up hauled away in a police van.

Good people are very easy to round up - we don't hit back. Try that with the criminals, and one may end up shot of sliced to death. It's so much easier and way more rewarding to round up a gun collector or a martial arts expert.

GF, it's a friendly warning to you - do not ever say, needless to say write what you just wrote! I speak from sad experience - I train modern arnis, combat aikido and jiu jutsu.

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you wouldn't know it from reading the toronto sun...
but the family of poor little "jordan manners"
is back in the news.

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What about a pointed stick?

"SC: elbows."

Agreed, I took an elbow in the kisser yesterday playing basketball.(no foul)

How about banning tennis rackets? Jonny Mac showed the world how volitile a Canadian can be with a tennis racket in his hand.

If the ban proponents want to get really serious, they should enlist the help of the local anti-smoking zealots. Somehow they managed to convince city councillors that smoking on an outdoor patio was dangerous to anyone within 10 blocks.

In Saskatoon you can walk around with a machete but you can't have a cigarette on a patio.

Go figure. Maybe they should ban machetes on patios or decree certain areas to be machete-free.

Conservatives just don't get it, we have to address the "root" causes: Kung Fu Movies

This is all Chuck Norris's fault.

OT

Has the UN considered banning missle tests? Perhaps a "Long Range Missle Registry".

I'm surprised sda didn't juxtapose with this.

This is really puzzling. Who are these thugs, and why aren't we focusing on locking them up. Get a sketch out-not talk about banning knives.
You can't ban crime-you have to deal with it. Banning knives is just a diversion to avoid finding real solutions or taking responsibility.

All the items below are currently banned somewhere in the US.

First gas driven projectile weapons.
(Guns, air rifles, blow guns)
Then elastic driven projectile weapons.
(Cross bows)
Then thrown projectile weapons.
(Throwing stars, throwing knives)
Then sharp objects.
(Switch blades, butterfly knives, pen knives, double edged combat knives, etc)
Then blunt objects.
(Slaps, slungshot, nunchaku, slaps..)

Soon pillows will be illegal because of the criminal use for smothering people, while ownership of rocks will require registration and a waiting period.

Black and White jungle movies starring Johnny Weissmuller of the late 1930's and 40's most likely led to this! I say ban all 16mm black and white projectors!!

Say what you want but I, for one, slept more soundly after lawn darts were banned. Many a good picnic was ruined by these deadly projectiles disguised as a game.

"It was also understood that the more deadly the instrument chosen, the more dangerous that offender was, and the greater the imperative to apprehend them."
Reminds me of the "tag team rapists" of a few years ago in Surrey. Over 50 gang rapes to their credit and they were caught only because a would be victim turned the tables; as predicted by an RCMP constable. Until then it was a field day.
Pretty sh*tty country where only a Policeman is allowed self defense. Canadians should be ashamed of themselves. But we burn lots of candles in the park...

Ask anyone in the know and they will tell you that a 5 inch steak knife with a serated blade is about as lethal as anything in the blade world. I think society should consider banning the sale of all forms of cutlery. It will be an inconveience eating with our hands, but its for the greater good.

Great post!

Anyone in the "media" brave enough to investigate the "victim" here?

Is there more to this story? Did the victim steal from some drug dealers? Did he cross some gangsters? Did he at sometime in the past commit some kind of assault to another?

All kinds of questions left unanswered.

Maybe its OK to think that a machete attack is something no one deserves, but it may have been just some street justice handed out.

The kind the bad guys fear, as opposed to getting caught with a concealed knife.

Un-freakin-believable how little this is being investigated. And further to that, if you choose not to investigate, then keep the drivel about how people purchase knives to yourself.

Every newscast missed the story. Exactly like Kate said.

Just like every night at 6, it was-hot-cold-windy-above/below normal-wet-dry today, which leads into a climate change story.

Never mind telling me about 3 "young adults at large"

One more thing...... when will the media call a spade a spade? If the young adults are native, let us know! Everyone assumes that anyway. My friend always says its not rude if it's true.

Not racist either.

"Ask anyone in the know and they will tell you that a 5 inch steak knife with a serated blade is about as lethal as anything in the blade world.
The government obviously needs to create a "steak registry".

Show their faces. Let them try to get jobs or re-enter the community.
What cowards the media are!

Why not give people rocket launchers then? If only violent people commit violent acts, then there is no need to control rocket launchers.

In fact, if everyone had rocket launchers, then no one would use their rocket launchers because everyone would be so afraid of getting a rocket launched at themself in relaliation!

Ted,
Riiigggghhhht. Classic argument. Why can't we legalize nuclear weapons then? i.e. the other extreme. The issue here is that the people in general have a right to possess weapons such that

a. They can defend themselves from an assailant.
b. They can mass against an oppressive government.

Proper rifles and pistols (semi automatic with removable magazines)get both jobs done handily, which is why they are the most numerous weapons our military possesses.

Rocket launchers not being necessary for self defense or defense of freedom (They are nice but are not really NEEDED), banning them is therefore not an infringement on the rights of defense of self and freedom.
So banning rocket launchers is what I would call a "common sense gun law" banning rifles, shotguns, pistols, knives, etc etc on the way down, are just violations of a Citizens rights to self defense, and compromise the ability of a populace to maintain themselves in freedom against oppression.

Pillow Fighting Banned in Calgary

Let The Feathers Fly

Michael; you're making too much sense; stop it. We need a ban on burning candles in the park. What kind of carbon footprint does that leave?

I hear that most of these assault machetes are smuggled over the US border...

Michael CK, it depends on who is infringing on your freedom whether you need an RL or not. If they come by tanks, then you do.

Ted, buzz off, dork. You do not need freedom, admit it and go away. They won't touch you if you submit.

Norm @ 12:38 pm;

We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh? Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me!

Double points to the Monty Python reference and this one takes the cake:

"I hear that most of these assault machetes are smuggled over the US border..."

Winner!

The rocket launcher discussion is ridiculess obviously....the best way to kill a tank now days is with a GUIDED MISSILE. Are Javelin ATGM's a prohibited weapon?

This all comes from Mayor Mandel in Edmonton who proposed this after a spat of the Youths playing to death. Literally. He was laughed at for weeks. I mean BBQ season is almost on us. How many police diverted to knife inspections in stores, or to registering citizens cutlery?
He was knifed in the back over this stupidity by the press & public for once.

Actually, Junker, no. Javelins are not restricted...

I found out by looking into the legalities of a cannon. (An old Royal Marines field piece)

Cannons, ATRs, missiles, etc. are all unrestricted. But you're looking at up to 5 years in federal prison if there's no record of Gramps' .22.

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Mojo -- That made me LOL. Thanks

"are just violations of a Citizens rights to self defense"...Michael C Keehn

Michael. You'all must be a damn Yankee,SIR. Canuckistan doesn't even have individual property rights,let alone the right to self-defense!

Call 911 Ted. You'll be perfectly safe. Really. No, really, we promise! Would we lie to -you- Ted?

Dammit... anything can be used as a deadly weapon.

Why not register/ban everything, then?

Would that stop scumbag evildoers from using thingamajigs to hurt and kill people? No. So once everything's registered/banned, then what will the left say we should do? Will they finally admit the obvious truth that it's the PEOPLE with the weapons that are the cause of the violence, not the weapons themselves?

Also, hey, if they say we can't get rid of drugs, then how the hell can they say we can get rid of anything else that's sold on the black market/smuggled into the country?

I totally reject the "progressive" response to violence.

Violence is caused by people using thingamajigs.

People will use whatever thingamajig they can find, either legally or illegally, to commit violence. Like baseball bats, hockey sticks, pens, pencils, telephones, coat racks, bottles, chairs, kitchen knives, tire irons, lead pipes, candlesticks, ropes, revolvers, Col. Mustard in the library...

Dammit, why is it so hard for "progressives" to understand that it's the baddies we must deal with, not the things they use with which to be bad? You can make stuff illegal, but the baddies will figure out another way to commit atrocities, will use another kind of thingamajig to get the "job" done, no doubt about it... They may even make something all by themselves, like a sharpened stick, just like cavemen used. It doesn't matter to them that it's illegal to use a weapon and assault people. Therefore we've got to put the baddies out of commission, lock 'em up, thus preventing them from commiting further atrocities.

Also, why do I suspect that the assailants with the machete are members of a certain "group" which happens to be protected from any kind of accountability via political correctness fascism? Why else would the Big Media not have any interest in helping find and bring the perps to justice?

Yes, damn Yankee, that's me. And like any good damn Yankee I believe that mankind is given rights by his creator; often later usurped by oppressive regimes.

poor Ted.

about one a month the Aids for Daily living bunch miss him on their rounds and a day without meds is like a day with sunshine for Ted.

and back onto SDA he goes.

a bit less than ulianov sneaking downstairs when moms at the Walmart.

I havent registered me guns , and now Im going to hurry and not register me machetes either mon.

but Ive Jamacanized my native accent.

hey buddy , i hafnt registered my guns eh an now im not gunna register my knifes , yeah pass du whiskey eh.

While attempting to grow up I fondly remember watching many acts of overt violence every saturday morning, committed with that most dastardly weapon of choice,the frying pan. I wonder if that is why it is so hard to find a good cast-iron one nowadays.

Ted says "Why not give people rocket launchers then? If only violent people commit violent acts, then there is no need to control rocket launchers"... Well Ted,If I had a rocket launcher some blogging libs would be dead.

Here is a simple solution, of course simple is not acceptable to the ban-em-all types:

If you use or threaten to use any object as a weapon in the commission of a crime, then an automatic minimum three year sentence is added on to the sentence given for that crime. The weapons related portion of the sentence cannot be reduced for 'time served' or any other reason.

If any Judge tries to bypass or ignore this, give him his Order of Canada and his walking papers.

Weapons under this could be anything - hockey sticks, rocks, garden shovels, a kitchen pot grabbed in haste, or the ribbon from the Order of Canada, if used to choke someone.

Ted
I don't know why rocket launchers are banned either. If I am a sensible, responsible individual owing a functioning M14 155mm howitzer is not a threat to anyone. If I'm a nut job or someone with "anger management issues" allowing me to have a BIC pen in my shirt pocket is not such a good idea.
I do have a mental list of people I would like to cut in half with a burst of machine gun fire (occasionally someone redeems themselves and is removed from the list) but so far in my 51 years the only fist fight I have had was on the ice (the b@st@rd kept butt ending me in the corners!). Thus, I have used violence to achieve my goals in life at the same rate as the Rt Hon Jean Chretian, PC (who dat?) and less often then most union organizers.

Ted, you do realize there are thousands of military personnel who have access to these weapons every single day they're on base across North America?

How often are missiles launched into their adjoining civilian neighborhoods?

If merely possessing such things elevates the risk of violent acts, it should happen every week.

It really was a stupid question. Had you wanted to impress, you might have saved yourself the trouble and just explained in detail how preventing the sale of 14" blades will prevent stabbings with 6 " blades.

Really, I'm all ears.

For once I agree with you. But I also DONT agree that because it has ethnic overtones it wont be reported. Where do stereotypes come from after all? The media. I think the media wants to sensationalize the story and there is no avenue to do this, since the police have no suspects.

We have stone-aged people running around in Saskatoon with machetes. Thanks Pierre.