When I heard an environmentalist equate "earth hour" to the "civil rights marches" of the 60's, I realized how out to lunch these people are. Especially as we still have 5' drifts in our yard and this morning it is -12.

I am waiting for the first weenie to say that the "cold,snowy" spring is caused by "climate change" or worse "global warming".

Of course it is global warming that's causing the cold wheather in Alberta.
The beauty of the global warming theory is that it explains every possible wheather event, i.e. it is virtually impossible to prove wrong!

"If you tickle those 'tangs, they giggle like schoolgirls!"
Say it aloud once and you'll be saying it all week.

We shouldn't be surprised at the absurdities coming from the WWF these days. It's evolved into a self sustaining PR corporation replete with all the schlocky corporate hucksterism pop marketing can scheme up.

The wildlife welfare stopped being the motive and focus of WWF in the mid 70s. The focus of this bloated self interest dinosaur is revenues to pay the slaraies of executive staff and tenured "expert" parasites ..... and they go after the upscale patrons fpr the big cash these days with motivational and lifestyle marketing programs aimed at selling "Earth pop star" stigma to stodgy establishment trust funds and institutions as well as "Friend-of-the-earth" honorariums to corporate conglomerates looking to put the WWF logo on their product packaging as a purchase incentive to affluent lefty urbanites with earth-guilt for their decadent lifestyles.

I bet if we look at the small print on this lavish jet set "earth junket" we'll find carbon offset credit (pollution absolution) was purchased from some Iowa farmer who has reduced his (farting) hog production so decadent yuppies can be wined and dined in comfort while they have their guilt complexes exploited by these rapacious WWF earth first grifters.

Civil rights leader: another AGW heretic.

More, please, and faster.
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"CORE Leader Blasts Global-warming Alarmists

While most civil rights organizations are marching in lock-step with the leftist climate catastrophe alarmists, Roy Innis, leader of the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) for 35 years, has broken ranks and is urging the poor and black communities to rebel against purveyors of global-warming gloom and doom and other radical environmentalists. Speaking at the 2009 Conference in New York City last week, Innis said, "A lot of people are searching for the right thing to believe in and [have been] captured by a corrupted ideology," a "green" religion.

As examples of how "'green' has become a religion ... un-quantified and undefined," the CORE leader relates the stories of two women, one in the urban United States and the other in a poverty-stricken village in Africa. The relatively affluent Chicago woman was complaining about the price of gas. Asked if she would be in favor of opening an oilfield about the size of O’Hare airport on a small part of the isolated Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR), she adamantly objected because of "harm to the environment." Asked if she had been there, was going there, or even knew anyone else who might be interested in ANWR, she answered "No," but still refused to consider such drilling to gain an ability to use domestic oil thus giving less control to foreign sources and ultimately lowering her fuel prices.

An ocean away the second woman was mother of a child sick of malaria and very likely to die. She was admonished to use DDT to rid her hut and her village of the Anopheles mosquito. While this would probably not save her baby, at least it would prevent similar occurrences in the future. She refused. Why? Even though approximately one million African children die of the disease that can be controlled by applications of DDT, an insecticide so safe that a human can eat a teaspoon a day without harm, this poverty-stricken woman has been sufficiently filled with environmental extremist propaganda that she will trade her family's and fellow villagers' lives rather than rick using DDT.

“Coal and natural gas are the new civil rights battleground,” says Innis, “because without these sources, ‘we’ cannot enjoy this great society.”

Regarding the oil man constantly on television promoting wind energy from Canada to Texas, Innis is anything but equivocal: “T.B. Pickens is part of a conspiracy against decency.”"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2217083/posts

Earth Hour nearly claims a family:

http://www.mississauga.com/article/25560

Not to mention the added CO2/hot air/whatever of the house burning, the fire trucks, etc.

what Al Gore and especially Dr. Mengele Suzuki would like us to get back to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_River_Trails

I cant forget the images that Suzuki and CBCpravda put up of carts in Cuba saying this is the kind of sustainable agriculture Canada needs.

CBCpravda All Ridiculous All the Time.

anyone else notice on the CTVtass site that the political headlines have been Iggy for 4 days straight.

I'm told they're turning the cabin lights down.

LOL

Light the torches and get the pitchforks, these gw witches are goin down.

Hmmmm. Turning the lights out during Human Achievement Hour on all those symbols of human achievement ("Great Pyramids of Egypt, from the Colosseum in Rome to the Empire State building in New York", being examples), just about says it all. These ditzes hate themselves.

Earth Hour? I was going to burn a tire in my back yard but in the end, I forgot all about it.

I think it was Michael Crichton that said all special interest groups should have to disband after 10 years. After that length of time it becomes about the organization and not the original cause.

The WWF and GreenPeace are perfect examples.

Drove back from Kamloops yesterday after a week of skiing. Had it tuned to the local radio station. Laughed when they said that the 2009 earth hour was bigger than the 2008, even though in 2008 they actually consumed 2.5% more energy than 2007, which they blamed on a colder than normal winter. This was the coldest we have had at Sun Peaks in 4 years -- I wonder how much more energy was actually consumed this year over last year? BTW, we were in a 103degree hot tub during the actual earth hour.

Louise: Wouldn't you?

Seems like St Al of Gore has had the info removed from Nashville Post. I guess he must be very embarrassed to be outed as the big fat hippocrit that everybody knows he is. Oops I guess I be in trouble for calling the big fat hippocrit a big fat hippocrit...

gee with the WWF pumping out CO2 like that I don't feel so bad about me and my 2 boys playing summer hockey, well never really did in the first place; anyway the WWF is probably buying offsets from Al Bore so that makes it OK in their leftoid fantasy world.

WWF? Should be WTF.

I must confess that in the very distant past (the last century), I supported the WWF and thought that they had an important message about conservation of the earth's special places and wildlife. However that was a long time ago and its obvious that they have evolved into a self serving political movement that doesn't do much except agitate and cause human misery. I am still on their mailing list and must say that I derive much satisfaction when I use their labels, cards and stamps but don't contribute to the cause. A small act of defiance on my part but it works for me.

well, in calgary here...i turned my furnace up to 26 degrees, and opened my windows...tried to use convective currents to force some of the stale winter air out of the corners of my home.

I still have a bag of incandescent lights from when everything got switched to CFL's. I put them into a number of sockets around my house to test which ones still worked, for emergency purposes of course.

I got a couple loads of laundry through the dryer, high heat setting of course. I had to turn the stereo up pretty so I could hear it outside while I was using a steam cleaner to melt ice off my porch. It worked really well! I only blew the circuit breaker twice.

"Hundreds of millions of people" (apparently Associated Press members ran around and counted them) turned off their *non-essential* lights -- not their fridges or stoves or power tools or furnaces or TVs or computers or stereos or air-conditioners, etc -- for a *full hour.*

In other words, the fact that maybe one-thirtieth of the world turned off "non-essential lights" for a duration of about one nine-thousandth of a year means "the world said yes to climate action, now governments must follow."

The enviro-moonies are nutters.

Wow, now they think they have a mandate to brow beat the public with a environmentalist agenda. Meanwhile no news of how Calgary did during hypocrite hour. I did my part with a stress test of my electrical panel. I am now confident it can handle anything I through at it. Fight back one politician at a time, at all levels of government before it's to late.

Atlantic Jim - I think that's an essential, a vital, a key point.

All special interest groups ought to disband after ten years because after that time, the focus moves from the welfare of the interest to the welfare of the group's existence. And those are two very different agendas.

The World Wildlife Fund . . nice little business these guys have going on. The guy running it is an MBA type . . go figure!

Wonder what their Executive Compensation package is like ?

"Operating revenues grew to $196.5 million, a 22 percent increase over the FY07 total of $160.8 million. This growth was made possible through the contributions of our many valued supporters. We received $85.7 million from our members and donors, $26.1 million in government awards, $19.3 million from foundations, $14.6 million from other WWF Network organizations, $10.1 million from corporations, and $40.7 million in other revenues, including in-kind contributions of media and equipment important to advancing our work"

Not exactly did we vote for climate panic... I certainly didn't... and documented such.

Whether these enviro whacks are nuts or not, it's looking a lot like they are winning. That doesn't make them right, just successful.

Other than V Klas of Chek Republic, what leaders are not on board with this scam?
Many countries who know it's a scam are on the receiving end of it ... IE Russia and a bunch of other backward non-producing entities.

They will take other people's money in exchange for continuing to not produce anything. Why not? We know that people on welfare like that sort of arrangement as well.

It's human nature to be a parasite if possible. Canada practically pioneered that attitude among it's population.

The righteous are those who can overcome weakness in their nature and do what is right. Those would be the real conservatives who are more realistic and adult about decision making. Their numbers are in decline as well.

I think this big divide will eventually come to civil war. It's already happening, except for the fact that so far everyone still at the shooting from the lip stage.

Consider this. Obama and all his riff raff are all about "organizing". They are organized quite well. That is how Obongo won the election. Who the hell is doing any organizing on the right?

No one!

Again, the whacks are winning because we aren't even in the fight.

Who new I had burned out outdoor bulbs that needed smashing and bagging ?
Thanks Kate.

Earth Hour nearly claims a family:

I'm in Mississauga right now and the EH voltage didn't drop a bit around our place. Streets brightly lit, lights and TV's on in neigboring condos as well as ours.

I'd say it was a pretty Ho-Hum affair in most people's minds. Could still see all the lights on downtown Toronto, 30 kilometers away.

The ones that burnt their place down with a candle would not have survived the Industrial Revolution. They'd be pushing up daisies in some foggy grave yard, if there was anything left to bury.

Momar, exactly correct. How do we turn this around?

As for the rest of you pikers, distant countrymen excepted, we had three TVs going, two in rooms no one inhabited, three PCs burning and a round-trip drive to the ashram that disrupted the morning for two neighborhoods twice. Had to forego the burnout display at the ashram because of the brick street surface. Where there's no friction, there's no display. There is a terrific new dual burnout strip in front of the house from the mailbox to the court. I'm sure there will be discussion at the association meeting.

ET,

Does that mean the 10 year clock is ticking on SDA? How many years left?

Kate,

Can you please explain your point? You go on and on about GW, WWF and Al Gore. Personally I'm not taken in by this nonsense and as a consequence put little energy into it.

The best defense is a good offense and all you do is play defense. Maybe an open forum on the failures of conservatism would be a good offensive starting point.

BTW My family took a vote on Saturday at dinner and the vote was 3 against 1 to observe earth hour, so the lights and everything else stayed on.

Crazy ! The eco-fanatics want us to destroy our lifestyles in order to reduce the amount of an essential, odorless, invisible gas - constituting only 0.03% of the atmosphere.

Crazy ! When considering that this poor thing is trying to grow our food;

[ The fundamental reason why carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is critically important to biology is that there is so little of it. A field of corn growing in full sunlight in the middle of the day uses up all the carbon dioxide within a meter of the ground in about five minutes. If the air were not constantly stirred by convection currents and winds, the corn would stop growing.] Freeman Dyson

And we would stop eating. And die. WWF's objective ? Population reduction ?

'"the world said yes to climate action, now governments must follow."'

Whoever wrote that statement (quoted & debunked by EBD) seem pretty good at getting things backwards.

ET: Kate is doing her part, her style of putting things out there with subtle remarks and letting readers judge for themselves is very effective.

I myself am a huge conservationalist, I love wildlife and nature. But when the WWF decided to embrace the cause of saving the polar bear, I knew the organization was a joke.

There are enough real conservation problems in the world: I really hope that the gorillas, tigers and rhinos can be saved, the North Atlantic right whales and the Blue whales, and the coral reefs everywhere. There are so many real issues to be tackled rather than the false ones such as AGW.

A little tongue in cheek Earth hour humour.

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Fifteen Patients Die as Earth Hour Kills Life Support in Hospital
By Brian Briggs

San Francisco, CA – Fifteen patients on life support and in surgery died at San Francisco General Hospital when power was cut for "Earth hour" on Saturday.

The hospital was pleased with their participation in the worldwide celebration of the planet. "We asked all the patients and their families if they were all right with us cutting the power. To a person, they all said as stewards of this planet it was their duty to observe Earth Hour. They knew the risks and were willing to take it," said hospital administrator Lawrence Cho.

Cho said that it was a net gain for planet Earth, despite the deaths. "The dead patients will no longer use any energy, and actually will be turned into energy in our patient incinerator," said hospital administrator Lawrence Cho.

As power was cut in the critical care ward some patients screamed in pain, others died calmly in their sleep. Cho said that most of the medical equipment has battery-powered back up systems, but those were disabled, because hospital officials felt that violated the spirit of Earth Hour.

Heart surgeon Dr. Gregory Morris was doing an open-heart procedure when the lights went out. "I wasn't sure what I was cutting into. Turns out it wasn't his heart, but his bowels. Unfortunately, Mr. Simms didn't make it."

Marla Tompkins, surviving sister of cancer patient Warren Tompkins, said, "Warren struggled for breath as his ventilator was powered down. I thought he might make it, but with three minutes left before power was to be turned back on, he expired. It was tragic, but kept me on the edge of the seat the whole time."
Cho hopes other hospitals learn from the example of San Francisco General and participate in next year's Earth Hour.

I think it's a hoax, Kyle

Momar is correct, these crusading corporate eco-mystics are winning. Until we stop allowing the parroting of their hysteria, masquerading as public education, this nonsense will continue. Hopefully, this vacuous symbolism won't inspire much more political action, this time.

The ignorant urban masses (and a few rural folks)will, unfortunately, continue to pour money into their coffers.

I found the comments here regarding the WWF interesting - in the past I too have supported them. They were a decent organization once.

But I would never support them today. They have changed for the worse. I never understood what went wrong with the WWF, so I find it very enlightening to read what some of you have to say.

"Well, is my face red."
Kate, you're too funny!
Wendy

The WWF is populated by the "champagne socialists" who depend on the useful idiots for their livelihoods. Fraud artists, just like "man pig bear".

"Using the carbon footprint calculator on the WWF’s own web site, the 36,800-mile trip in a Boeing 757 jet will burn about 100,000 gallons of jet fuel to produce roughly 1,231 tons of CO2 in 25 days — that’s the equivalent of putting about 1,560 SUVs on the road during those three-plus weeks and that doesn’t even include emissions related to local air, ground and water transport and other amenities."

Let's see--jet fuel weighs just under 7 pounds per gallon. 100,000 gallons would be 700,000 pounds. 700,000 pounds is 350 tons. Where did the other 881 TONS of matter come from? Are they on to something new?

EBD: "turned off their *non-essential* lights [] for a *full hour.*"

I don't know about you but that level of sacrifice, dedication and commitment to "the greatest crisis humans have ever faced"(TM) brings a tear to my eye. (Okay, it's tear from laughter but still...)

The Left's biggest advantage ? The Religious part of the Right. Easy target.

The Left thinks candles during Earth Hour are no more fake than those in church.

There's something appropriate about these earthies sitting in the dark. It kind of symbolic of where they're at.

I wrote a post about the scam of Earth Hour and someone bravely hiding behind the moniker "anonymous" replied to it saying "judge not lest ye be judged, (expletive expletive)". I've asked that person to explain him/herself but as of yet I've had no reply. I guess even hinting that Earth Hour is a huge farce is enough to get the creepy-crawlies out of the woodwork.
This is why sites like SDA are important. Make the whackos who waste energy being stupid explain themselves. Pointing out that something might be a total waste of time can't be counter-productive.

For the haters of western civilization:

noelkingsley.com/blog/archives/cartoon%20cavemen.jpg

Kyle,
With that type of imagination try to describe the Emergency exit of California (LA/San-Fran) before the big earth quake chips that state into the Pacific Ocean.

Those electric cars need 4 hrs of charge time for 4 hours of drive time. In clogged interstates the stop & go will suck the juice dry in ~ 12 miles. The rodents will Mill around wondering why they must be the ones sacrificed. NOT FAIR!

The best part of payback is in the dark humor..

Right you are, Bruce. The sun was shining in the Yukon during the reactionary hour of Pittish worship! I do blame the ancient Pitts of Scotland for this ritual performance - they wore red paint (assuming you are a Scot Kate, I reasoned that this was the source of the 'red face syndrome). The Pitts, unlike the gorgiles, thought that all nature was sacred - the Pitts did not condemn foliage and other life for emitting a gas! The gorgiles and fruit fly people would rid the earth of all beauty for money. The WWF have twisted the ideas of an ancient tribe of people who really did worship God's creations.

BTW, My family came to Canada from Scotland over two hundred years ago, forget reporting me to the HRC.

The real question is: is the goricle a Scot? Fruit fly is not; is the fruit fly a plagiarist? Burning questions for the msm. The ideas of these fools are not new, of course...everything they promote is recycled and it shows...

" .. judge not lest ye be judged .."

Exactly my point. The Left's most effective tactic.

Let's see--jet fuel weighs just under 7 pounds per gallon. 100,000 gallons would be 700,000 pounds. 700,000 pounds is 350 tons. Where did the other 881 TONS of matter come from? Are they on to something new?
Posted by: Narimasu at March 30, 2009 12:51 PM

Narimasu, I'm sure someone else can respond more scientifically to this, but fuel needs oxygen to burn, and since it's forming CO2, it needs 2 oxygens for every carbon, so it's actually taking mass from the air needed to burn fuel. Correct anyone?

Narimasu
"Let's see--jet fuel weighs just under 7 pounds per gallon. 100,000 gallons would be 700,000 pounds. 700,000 pounds is 350 tons. Where did the other 881 TONS of matter come from? Are they on to something new?"
I take a perverse pride in being fair---even with the eco-whachos....I maybe does make sense...
Although CO2 AGW is an obvious fantasy......
1 molecule of Carbon + 1 molecule Oxygen Gas(Oxygen as a gas is O2) = CO2
Combusting jet fuel (oxidation) combines the weight of the fuel and the oxident (atmosphere).
I hope that clarifys your fuzzification.....
These psuedo "scientists" have us all confused.....

Ron In Kelowna: Bingo. Judgment is deferred to everyone else but them. I mean- if someone was to publicly make them accountable for the things they do and say, would anyone side with the left? No one wants to be on the losing side of an argument.

Well the left gets a lot of their money from endowments from the MacArthur, Ford and Joyce Foundations.

Weren't those created by people that were from the right side of the spectrum?

Have they been hijacked at the Board level?

Only the truly dim would miss that turning off lights in Winnipeg powered by hydro-electricity in favour of burning candles would increase C02.

CTV(tass) just cant stop .

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090330/winter_sports_090330/20090330?hub=Canada

12 years of cooling and they continue to spew Suzuki tripe.

I would venture to say that Ducks Unlimited, which the Gaians love to hate (because they hunt ducks, you see), does a great deal more to conserve wildlife, through its wetlands development programs than the WWF has ever done, and without sponsoring round-the-world luxury tours to witness 'the wild'. These WWF tours are likely necessary to raise the large amounts of money required to sustain their propaganda barrages, while Ducks Unlimited is supported by private contributions from people who really care about conservation.

What's going to be done in the name of the enviroment in our lifetime makes me cringe.

more first nations at one with Gaia

http://www.am770chqr.com/News/National/Article.aspx?id=98286

"Wonder what their Executive Compensation package is like ?"

In 2001, the WWF CEO received an annual salary of about US$223,000 plus unspecified benefits of US$29,000 or so.

To follow up on a couple of points made by previous posters, it was Gandhi who first stated in his autobiography that community service organizations of whatever stripe should be funded solely by the subscription of their members. Otherwise they would become self-perpetuating and self-serving bureaucracies focused more on their own expansion than on the original purpose they were created to serve. I think most "environmental" groups are well past that point, WWF included.

My daughter turned 10 a couple of weeks ago. As she has too many toys already and she is nuts about animals, she asked that all her presents be in the form of cash so she could symbolically adopt an animal through the WWF (she raised enough to adopt three)

The WWF sends out a package thanking the adoptor and gives information about the animals adopted. Here's the kicker, they FEDEXED it. I'll say that again, THEY FEDEXED IT! So not only did they probably use up $40 of my daughter's $120 donation to overnight it, how many great gobs of the poison CO2 did they pump out to get it to her. (Now how much has gone to administration, advertising and Chairman Mo's cut)

SaskPower: "Earth Hour had No Measureable Effect".

They must mean in terms of hard measureable data like KW Hours used.

But since when has hard data ever been something the Enviro nuts would be interested in?

Sorry, no news here. Time to move along...

Earth Hour?

Don't you mean happy hour?

WWF?

Isn't that for wrastlers?

Wonder how much CO2 will be spewed by Obama's 500-strong (yep, five bloody hundred people, as if they need that many!) entourage to the G-20?

Not that I care, but it's fun to expose hypocrisy!

As said before...not stupid enough...when I read of your obit stating you have buried your CO2 footprint in the ground...well STFU!

"...it was Gandhi who first stated in his autobiography that community service organizations of whatever stripe should be funded solely by the subscription of their members. Otherwise they would become self-perpetuating and self-serving bureaucracies..."

Gee, DrD, that would seem to apply to the CBC as well.

WendyG @1:34 "Correct anyone?"

Quite right. Carbon has an atomic mass of 12, Carbon dioxide has an atomic mass of 44, with the oxygen taken from the atmosphere. Thus, you get more than three times the amount of mass in the waste gas compared to the original carbon content of the fuel. There will also be a quantity of NOx, as combustion at that temperature will cause nitrogen in the atmosphere to oxidize as well.

Liquid carbon fuel is primarily a mixture of carbon and hydrogen atoms. The carbon oxidizes as noted above, and so does the hydrogen, with each hydrogen molecule becoming H2O. When you see aircraft contrails, the vast bulk of the plume you see is water, some of it from burning the fuel but most of it simply from the disturbed air flowing through the engine. Modern turbofan engines churn up a lot more contrail than old turbojet engines, not because they pollute more, they are in fact far more energy efficient, but they move a lot more air, and that creates more water vapour.

The Auld Sod Hours strikes agin, Begoreya.
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"28,000 homes left without power (More Power Outages....)
An explosion at an electricity substation in Belfast was caused by a "disruptive failure", Northern Ireland Electricity have said"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2218304/posts

BC Hydro reported higher electricity consumption for Earth Hour over last year.

Atlantic Jim / ET.

Great point. I would only dispute the mechanics. You can't actually require special interest groups to disband. We could however end tax deductibility after a certain time period. Better yet would be to deny deductibility to all advocacy/special interest groups, limiting it to TRUE charities which offer direct concrete assistance to people (private welfare). Clearly in this instance, we all profit by a strong private welfare system which limits the reach of government.

Interesting how Obama is proposing to reduce charitable deductions for people over a certain income threshold. Nothing offers better evidence of his hard left ideological statism.

Update: Goreacle, the sob-lizzard, advances on all fronts with bears.
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"Snow Could Complicate Flood Recovery
New York Times - ‎3 hours ago‎

By KIRK JOHNSON and MONICA DAVEY FARGO, ND - A major snow storm that is expected to hit the Dakotas Monday night and into Tuesday is not expected to exacerbate flood worries or significantly raise water levels in the still-swollen Red River, ...
Blizzard bears down on flooded North Dakota AFP"

These AGW people make me laugh; it's all "Do as I say, not as I do", like the Gore mansion, and this wWF flight. What a bunch of flaming hypocrites.

Oh, and Bruce, it's "manbearpig".

not stirred enough Can you please explain your point? It's called push-back and if you are a civil servant you wouldn't know what it means. Get in my face with the propaganda and I will push back. If you want to go farther..well I'm up for that too. Otherwise there is one message (wrong) with no one opposing. Facts don't matter so logic does not work. When I went to U I learned a couple of things: Commies can't fight and they make sense when they can't talk.

I heard somewhere that Al Gore was born nine months after the Roswell incident.

As fact and logic....

"The findings follow a massive rescue operation on Tuesday in which hundreds of temperate penguins that mysteriously turned up on warm Brazilian beaches – possibly due to climate change impacts, according to some scientists – were returned to their Southern Ocean nesting area, more than a thousand miles to the south."

logic would dictate that these critters were seeking warmth by deliberately getting 1000 miles closer to the equator.....or maybe Canada Geese go south to find the cold weather?

Disco Bay, Green land, full of floating ice is alleged evidence of a melting icecap.....unless tidewater glaciers are ADVANCING there can be NO ICEBERGS....unless you are an idiot.....

You really don't have to be Freeman Dyson to see through their BS.

The ice in Dysko Bay, Greenland comes from the Illusiat Glacier which flows downhill from the Greenland ice cap and empties into Bafin Strait. I been there, so I know.

Everybody knows that water flows "down hill" and ice does the same thing via gravity. As more snow is dumped onto the Greenland ice cap annually at higher elevation, there is more ice to flow off the ice field via glacier into Bafin Strait.

If you passed high school physics you would know that an ice skate "glides" across ice on a thin film of water under the blade due to the extreme pressure of a large mass resting on a small surface of ice, which melts from the pressure and re-freezes as the skate glides away.

The pressure of the mass of ice (approx 3000 m thick) resting on the rocks of Greenland melts at the contact and the water acts as a "lubricant" allowing the ice to "flow" down hill. The ice then flows out onto Dysko Bay and "calves" into the icebergs that float north into Bafin Straits and then south past NFLD. Has nothing to do with AGW, just plain old physics.

Science isn't hard you know and I didn't use any Big Words.

Every time I see this gorilla's face I am reminded of the Women who had her face ripped of by a kinsmen of this animal while on a zanex & wine high.

Latest Goreacle tracker via the "*World's Weather AuthorityTM".

"Plains snowstorm will expand into parts of Manitoba and northwestern Ontario Tuesday and Tuesday night"
*urlm.in/bzxo

I know this is a bloody long post, but I've been assured that its worth a read if you can spare the time. Since I cant post this on Law Is Cool cause they shut down dissenting voices, I felt the need to post it here, where I have faith that someone will take the time to read it and agree/disagree.

There is no dispute among the accredited scientific community about human contribution to global warming.
Yes actually, there is, go take a look at NASA, I seem to recall a few of their top scientists admitting to being embarrassed by a former staff member who wanted war-crimes tribunals to be held for anyone who doesn’t believe global warming is going to kill us all. See also Doctor Tim Ball. The list is growing.

We know some of SDA readers have problems with the notion of “science.” Sorry, the world was not created 4004 BCE, and evolution is a fact.
Ah the name-calling is coming, I can just feel it with the mockery of religion in the second line here. I’d say it was beautiful, but really, it’s just more sadly predictable, and I say that as both a Christian and a believer of the theory of evolution, acknowledging the fact that it is impossible to disprove EITHER and knowing that Christianity and Science do not have to be mutually exclusive as so many left-leaning people seem to believe.

NY Times:
On Feb. 2, 2007, the United Nations scientific panel studying climate change declared that the evidence of a warming trend is “unequivocal,” and that human activity has “very likely” been the driving force in that change over the last 50 years. The last report by the group, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, in 2001, had found that humanity had “likely” played a role.
The addition of that single word “very” did more than reflect mounting scientific evidence that the release of carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gases from smokestacks, tailpipes and burning forests has played a central role in raising the average surface temperature of the earth by more than 1 degree Fahrenheit since 1900. It also added new momentum to a debate that now seems centered less over whether humans are warming the planet, but instead over what to do about it.
Human activity has been likely in that tennis courts have been erected right next to the thermometers designed to monitor long term changes in weather. Generally if you start off putting a thermometer in a grassy field and then pave the field to make way for a tennis court, the temperature changes on the thermometer. Course, I’m right-wing, so I’m probably wrong in thinking that more direct sunlight in a small space tends to heat something up rather than cool it down. The average surface temperature of the earth has ALWAYS been in a state of constant flux, go take some archaeology classes and discuss evidence of ice ages and tropical periods in the dirt. I’ve done those classes, aced them, and had a great time talking about how dinosaurs enjoyed a much warmer climate than we have right now. Debates should always be allowed to happen, and should always be respectful of dissenting opinions because debate is evidence of a healthy theory, and frankly, theory is all that Global warming is. There is not nearly enough data for it to be considered proof, and I’d apologize for saying this but, consider the fact that the Earth has been around for a helluva lot longer than 6000 years. Lets say oh… 100 million years (I’m lowballing the Earth’s age, but bear with me), and we have data for a little under 100 years of that time which means we have 0.0001% of the data tracked regarding the Earth’s temperature. If we go with just the time that humans have been around, heck, lets assume 4004BC as a benchmark date, as it was the one brought up in the beginning of this post, we’re now dealing with 1.6% of all the data, but since we know that man has been around for more than a mere 6000 years, so for accuracy’s sake, I’m going to go with the smaller of the two numbers. Skeptics might just be questioning the lack of data collected, because frankly, drawing a conclusion from 0.0001% of all the possible data doesn’t really scream accuracy.

We also know some SDA readers have problems with big words, so here’s a hand.
un•e•quiv•o•cal: Admitting of no doubt or misunderstanding; clear and unambiguous.
Ah here we go with the name-calling. Its not direct, and its lovely that you don’t go down to the level of just saying SDA readers are stoopid, but still, you have now completely destroyed your entire argument by mocking the other’s intelligence. Frankly, in the context of the article, unequivocal becomes arrogance because of the refusal to even admit the possibility of being wrong. See my previous comments about 0.0001% (or at best 1.6%) of the data on the Earth’s temperature; really, I think NYT might just be jumping the gun by using the term “unequivocal” when discussing proof of global warming.

The only remaining explanation is a complete conspiracy by all of the established scientific community, all politicians and governments around the world, and even all the NGOs and the UN. The bigger problem is what do you do with a very small subset of the population that is enormously resistant to fact and continues to act in sociopathic ways?
Actually, it’s not the only remaining explanation, but I will acknowledge that it certainly is one of several. Skeptics are questioning the LACK OF DATA, again, see my previous comments, people paying taxes are questioning the need for another tax to save a planet that has a tendency to be able to look after itself, I question the science, the people screaming that the debate is over because claiming that debate is over is a step towards tyranny of one side or another, despite what you may want to think. Not all politicians and governments believe in global warming (thank God for that) and so debate is still allowed to happen. It is not sociopathic to disagree with someone, and it is NOT a very small subset of the population who disagrees. To be resistant to the “fact” of Global Warming is to demand that more data be collected before claiming that the science is settled. Isn’t that a reasonable request, considering again my previous comment about 100 years of data collection (and I’m being generous here) vs. a minimum of 100million years of actual weather?

Inevitably such people will not content themselves with hostile words, and resort instead to breaking laws. At that point we do hope you obtain legal counsel and receive fair treatment. Just do not expect that your lawyer, better educated and more intelligent than you, will be similarly delusional.
So anyone who disagrees with you will eventually break the law? Do you honestly believe that? I cant even figure out a way to properly point out the absurdity of this statement because frankly, it’s already so silly that it really doesn’t need any help. The problem with these three sentences is we’re back to completely destroying any argument that you MAY have had regarding the article, or the disagreeing voices, because well, you resort to petty insults. Insulting the dissenting voices does not show a strong argument, but rather takes any argument, be it strong, weak, or unequivocally proven to be right and makes it a weak argument, and at best, makes the person choosing to use insults rather than respectful comments little more than a screaming child in a room full of adults. I mean that in the kindest possible way, not meant to call you a child, but rather to encourage you to drop the attitude when posting your opinion, because keeping a tone polite makes for a more powerful argument and makes people more likely to listen.

All of the arguments presented have been adequately debunked here.
1. It’s the sun
2. Climate’s changed before
3. There is no consensus
4. It’s cooling
5. Models are unreliable
6. Surface temp is unreliable
7. Ice age predicted in the 70s
8. We’re heading into an ice age
9. It hasn’t warmed since 1998
10. Al Gore got it wrong

And on that note, we will end it.

Not going to bother with anything big regarding this little gauge, again, it’s condescending at best and rude at worst, and succeeds only in strengthening the resolve of those who disagree by being rude to dissenters. Going through them really quick though, (1) take a look at the Sun’s activity ever since we developed the technology to monitor it and actually started monitoring it. (2) The climate has changed before, remember the dinosaurs? They weren’t really suffering through -40C winters, and Mammoths (imagine one of those big hairy bastards going through your windshield!) didn’t survive the warming trend after the Ice Age. (3) There IS no consensus, hence the existence of scientists who disagree! (4) 0.0001% of all the data has been collected. (5) 0.0001% of all the data has been collected. (6) 0.0001% of all the data has been collected. (7) Honestly, go take a look at a scientific journal from the 70’s, they did think the world was cooling. (8) 0.0001% of all the data has been collected, this is starting to sound like a broken record, but this one can’t be proven either way. (9) Personal experience says this is true, but comparisons can be made between 1998 averages and 2008 averages because we have data on both, find a credible source of information (note the use of the word credible) and do a comparison for yourself. (10) If Al Gore believed his own tripe, do you think he’d have bought a home in Tallahassee, Florida? After all, if he’s right, then why buy a house that will eventually be flooded by the rising ocean levels?

And on that note, I’d love to say this is ended, but I don’t want to get my hopes up.

Heard on the radio this morning from Manitoba Hydro that power consumption was up 8% during earth hour! Way to go Manitoba! (Can't find an article anywhere on the internet to attach to this though. hmmmm...)

Oh, and Bruce, it's "manbearpig".

KevinB, I know that was the original phrasing, forgive me, but I think that Old Fat Albert Gore is more of a pig than a bear.

No insult to pigs intended.

Here's my Earth Hour story. As I've been separated after a long marriage for the past year, I've had the opportunity to meet a lot of new people. So I went up to a cottage in the Kawarthas owned by my date (apparently a tree hugger - hey!, who knew?) and we were joined by her female friend and her school teacher date.

So, I'm trying to be discreet and go along with the Earth Hour candle-fest because things with the date are looking promising when the school teacher starts telling us about a recent viewing of An Inconvenient Truth in his classroom. I roll my eyes subtly in the dim room. No one notices... Phew. Anyway, the teacher dude calls Al Gore a hypocrite for living in a huge mansion while selling the noble cause of climate change to the masses.

I finally blurt out "Al Gore is an A$$hole!" and go on to explain that the facts behind AGW aren't exactly factual and cited several examples that I've read here and elsewhere.

I slept alone in the spare room...

You're my kind of guy, Brian. I loved your story;-)

Hang in there!

Brian, it was worth it for all us intelligent non-teachers now wasn't it. Btw ever wonder why some people look like the animal they most act like. Algore looks exactly like a RAT, just add the whiskers.

cgh @ 4:22
Well, that's all well and good, but answer me this- how in hell do they get the caramel in the Caramilk bar??

Gore is not only getting FAT, but he's well on his way to looking like Don Rickles, ... no shit!!

Yep that's a lot of hot air.

This is a distraction from the real disaster!
we must all band together to save the planet!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymqeNYVBZ00

Brian, you're my kind of man!

Power consumption went UP in Manitoba during Earth Hour.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/life/earth-hour-a-downer-as-city-power-use-rises-42072407.html

"Last night's message from the masses was loud and clear: Delay no more, real action now!" Kim Carstensen, the leader of WWF's Global Climate Initiative, said in a statement.
1 hour out of 8760 in a year is about 1/100th of 1 %, if these WWF people were serious about "real" action, wouldn't they be increasing there own personal contribution to something more than the token hour a year.
I was away from home on Saturday, and was out of my hotel room, visiting people. At 8:30 they jumped up, and turned out the lights, and lit a couple of candles. I basked in the knowledge that back in my hotel, incandescent lights were happily blazing away, in recognition of Human Achievement Hour. Bless Thomas Edison!

I decided I wasn't going to play along during "Earth Hour", and in so doing I offended all of my nice, pious neighbours. I live in a "nice" suburban neighbourhood with back yards bull of publicly schooled children, whose dutiful parents took them for "Earth Hour Walks" as instructed in a school handout to parents. They were horror struck at my little house, which was ablaze with the cheerful warmth of incandescent lamps and prettily decorated outside with little white Christmas lights. My next door neighbour, who is a kind-hearted soul was so shocked at my misbehaviour that he couldn't look me in the eye the next morning, and refused to talk to me.

What kind of people are we becoming?

chris Ivey
you ask what kind of people are we becoming?

wait till they ask the young ones to report back to school of your indecresions, your usage of the peoples power in the forbidden hours.

its harder not to imagine it , than to imagine it, in place with cameras everywhere. George Orwell was so perceptive its really scary.

infrared helicopter finding and fining inadequately sealed vents , underinsulated attics and contraband incandescant bulbs bought on the local indian reservation. all in the next 5 years. Id bet CBCpravda would support it if they had thought of it first.