I'd like to personally hang from a lampost every Swedish politician that is responsible for bringing these POS to the west.

What a wonderful display of civil discourse and so nice to see the useful idiots literally beating the war drum. But then I've seen this before...

57 punks, 138 camera packing journalists and a slew of coppers without the leadership with the political will to upset the sh!t disturbers.....kinda reminds me of Caledonia.

Syncro

Yep, 'bout what I expect from there now.

The Swedes will do nothing to any of the punks there.
After all any enraged Muslim yout, er crazed young man with a knife can murder a politician publicly such as Anna Lindh's murder in a posh mall on her lunch break and they merely blame the circumstance of the 'crazy' mans position in life, well what can you expect?
Much the same here IMHO.

wtf?!? and where were the police? Did they all just abandon their vehicles?

Looks like the Swedish police could have used a taser or two.

So, what's the big deal. We will be seeing the same scenes here in a few years.

Our children will ask us:

"why did you create this problem?"

"Why didn't you make a change to immigration and refugee policy before it was too late?

"Why did my great-grandfather die in WWII fighting nazism, and my father give in without a fight to Islamic fascism?"

This truly has been the worst generation.

This is why Sweden is always held up as the perfect society.They are such nice people that they tolerate evil...

"In Sweden, they came first for the Tennis Players, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Tennis Player...."

Reference

Cops were watching the tennis matches, heard there were good seats.

Money quote:
"It's hypocritical to say that you can't mix sports and politics. Everything is politics," Anders, a 30-year-old demonstrator who refused to divulge his full name, told AFP.
Guess he approves of what happened to the Israeli athletes in Germany, oh wait that's really old history for this age group. Probably didn't learn about that either, in his schooling.

They should have warned them that attacking the vehicles would not be tolerated, one broadcast warning to step away and then water cannons, judging by the clothing, it was cold and being soaked would dampen their spirts.

To be slightly fair, the protest organizers attempted to control the crowd, but there were far to few and they should have sent the hooded types packing right at the begining.

We don't have to wait a couple of years to see this kind of spineless official acceptance of this kind of destructive and outrageous behaviour. They KNOW there is no one, not ONE decent human being either holding a camera or weilding a gun as a policeman who will lift one finger to stop their vandalism and disrespect for property or others.
WE saw it in Caledonia. We watched while the police and the judiciary and the political powers did NOTHING and allowed the lawlessness to go on and on and on. Completely abbrogating their responsibilities to serve and protect the citizens of Caledonia. Caledonia IS Canada and could have been any one of us in any town. For in that example we see that the officials we have given the power to do what we expect them to do in protecting our communities do NOTHING and will do NOTHING unless and until we insist on it by turfing their worthless hides out and putting in folk who have some steel in their spine and are willing to put same into our laws. We need to put the fear of God into those judges who think we are not watching and listening to their outrageous rulings.
Not until then will they get that we as Canadians mean business and if they do not conduct the country's business we will find people who do and will. In the meantime the lawless do what they wish , vandalizing and shooting up and tearing up communities at will. IF they are , by some stroke of luck, actually arrested they are back out on the street the next day , free to ply their terror once again on the innocent and peace of our communities. Judges seem completely deaf to the outrage building in the country. When the criminal gets a better shake than victims in our justice system we had better take things in hand and make sure we get the kind of represention we know will ensure a safer community. One step in that direction would be to insist that judges be elected so that their rulings have consequences. Serious consequences.
And if we do not it won't be just the criminals who terrorize our communities the jihadists are watching and using the weakness displayed to their advantage. A very high price for our way of life is being paid on a daily basis by brave souls who have sworn an oath to protect us on foreign shores away from their homes and families and at great risk to their lives.
We owe them and ourselves a much more vocal and insistent charge to our elected officials to get cracking on these outrages on our streets and make it clear we will not tolerate jihadists either who seek to vandalize, disrupt, disrespect and attempt to subject us all to the tyrany of any entity that insists we must do things their way. ENOUGH.

Hey there only "Youths" out for fun. As the CBC might say. You know by this time you would think people had seen enough of these savages murder, denounce & hate everyone. Bullies with even bigger fools allowing this behavior.
JMO

damn christian extremists
sarge thought it was just the clan and certain pentacostals and of course george w bush who killed thousands because 'god told me to smight sadam now sarge finds out its all over the world

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism\\

guess we gotta wipe em out

Hey, what do you expect the Swedish riot police to do, when they are armed with nothing more menacing than Ikea delivery vans?

Yumping Yimminy! I thought the Swedes were so civilized and nuanced that they would at least require numbers on the back of the sweat shirts so we can tell one player from another, like, who were the dark bearded dudes in the reflective yellow vests and what was their role? I have waited a snarky lifetime to utter those words so frequently heard from Swedes when referring to Americans with such scorn: "Barbarians".

"where were the police? Did they all just abandon their vehicles?"

Except for the few enjoying the match, the balance were cowering beneath the dashboards.

"To be slightly fair, the protest organizers attempted to control the crowd,"

What part of 'useful idiots' don't you understand? 'Control' didn't fit with the plan.

If you take it, you deserve it.

"Everything is politics," Anders, a 30-year-old demonstrator who refused to divulge his full name, told AFP."

Exactly. The short-term goal of socialists is to bog everything down into politics. It's currently called being "progressive", as they really don't have anything constructive to add to any situation other than their own self-aggrandizement or rent-seeking.

who were the dark bearded dudes in the reflective yellow vests and what was their role?

--They were Muslims. The ball-less Swedes don't want Kaffir policemen (and obviously policewomen) to try to control those Islamo-Supremacist bastards, so they employ Islamists. Fat lot of good those Islamic police are doing. At least by having apparently Islamic police, the state is minimizing the risk of the police being beaten and killed. After all, if the Islamo-Supremacists see another apparently Islamic face, they're not so likely to attack that police officer. Which is proof that those Islamo-Supremacists are, indeed, intolerant and xenophobic, not only towards Israel and Jews, but towards anyone non-Islamic-appearing.

If the "demonstrators" were neo-Nazis/Skinheads, do you think the state apparatus would treat them with kid gloves as they do the Islamo-Supremacists? Hell, no.

You know, if the state apparatus continues to tolerate the actions of the intolerant Islamo-Supremacists, well, there's going to be civil war eventually, what with fed-up Swedish Kaffirs taking their own country's security, law and order into their own hands because those they employ via the state apparatus, paid by their taxes, simply aren't doing the job they were hired to do, and choose to do something else entirely.

http://thecanadiansentinel.blogspot.com/2009/03/islamo-supremacists-prevent-attendance.html

...My two cents. I'm getting fed up with those Islamic neo-Nazis and with the state apparatus and Big Media tolerance for their hatred and violence.

Would "white" neo-Nazis be allowed to take over like the Islamic ones are? Hell, no. So, look who are the real racists... the "progressives" who claim to be "anti-racist", no better than the hooded thugs commiting the vandalism against the police vehicles, despite the obvious fact that the police aren't doing anything to them... and, in fact, appear to be predominantly Islamic themselves...

The barbarians are no longer at the gate. They have breached the walls and western civilization is in grave danger. Canada must stop Muslim immigration. We must not allow their numbers to grow to the point where they can initimidate local government as they have obviously done in Malmo, Sweden and are already doing to spineless university administrations in Canada.

The reporters are encouraging them. They are in affect creating their own news. Fine them along with the demonstrators to repair the damage to the vehicles.

Somebody needs to give those bastards a whiff of grapeshot every time they rear their fanatical heads. That's the only language they understand. That and mass deportations.

Assault and vandalism. Totally legitmate forms of free speach according to the left.

My blood is boiling: Islamofascist thugs vandalizing police vans and not an arrest in sight. Muslim police in Sweden? What a laugh! What a travesty of justice! What lily-livered cowards. The Swedes will rue the day their "enlightened" society sanctioned and lionized "multiculturalism" and because of their equality mentality, they did nothing while the barbarians took over. What absolute idiots -- and Canada's not far behind.

Lori: "Why did my great-grandfather die in WWII fighting nazism, and my father give in without a fight to Islamic fascism?"

Simple answer: Our almost universal adherence to the Judeo-Christian faith at the time of WWII, which says that "I am my brother's keeper" and "greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends" gave our men (and women) the courage to fight what they knew was evil, despite having to risk their lives to overcome Nazism.

Today, with the trashing of the faith of our forefathers and mothers in our public "educational" institutions, the MSM, and the public square ('remember Chretien prohibiting Christian prayer at the memorial service in Nova Scotia for the victims of the plane that crashed at Peggy's Cove and at the memorial service for 9/11 victims on Parliament Hill?), at least three generations of Canadians have absolutely no reason to risk their lives for any cause. They've been taught that they're Number One, that there is no higher authority than their own, with the idea of personal sacrifice being a completely foreign concept to them. Their mantra is "My rights dictate that I can do whatever I want, when I want."

It's not rocket science to figure out what's gone terribly wrong with Western Civilization. If you cut down the root of the tree which has sustained it for thousands of years, the tree rapidly dies. In this case, the tree is our Western democracies founded on Judeo-Christian principles and the axe to the root is secular humanism, which has gleefully harnessed "equal rights," "multiculturalism,"tolerance and diversity," via the barbaric Islamofascist hordes to its nefarious agenda which is to rid the West of Christianity.

Alas! This explanation of why Western democracies have so shockingly given themselves over to multiculturalism, with the resulting Islamification of our societies, is barely on the radar screen or a topic of discussion.

We refuse to accurately name the problem ,to diagnose the disease, to the peril of the health of our body politic. The secular humanist socialists are succeeding past their wildest dreams, in part by cleverly using the Islamofascists as a most effective battering ram against our democratic freedoms.

This is depressing. very depressing. The world seems to shrug and say nothing to see here, move along.

But these people are enabled. They are enabled by all the Westerners (Jews and non-Jews) who agree with them that Israel has "stolen the land of the ancient Palestinians", that Israel uses "excessive force", that Israel is "illegally occupying Palestinian land", that Israel "hordes/steals their water", that their should be "no settlements" (read Jews) in the West Bank, that Israel is an "apartheid state", and on and on ad nauseum.

Is AFP pulling a fast one here by failing to describe accurately the real culprits? Their description, "a group of ethnic Swedes", isn't matching up with the little darker skinned jihadis bus kickers and spittle spewing ranters seen on the video.

Google "Malmo", "crime" and "rape" and you get a Third World dump with a big Muslim population with high crime and rape stats:

http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/02/muslim-rape-epidemic-in-sweden-and.html

It's not that the passively childlike Swedish sheeple have clean hands in their demise either. You know what is scary, I could see in many parts of Europe in the future Jews boarding trains for deportation again as inconvenient people.

Mark my word - the day will come when those who value rich Canadian traditions and the rule of law will have to fight Muslims and their leftard allies in the streets of our cities.

I know its sad but when government and the law conspire to errode all that is good and meaningful in society, all it takes to allow disaster is for good men and women to do nothing.

As usual, there's maybe 5-10 guys in the crowd actually -doing- anything, they best they had was kicking the police vans. Everybody else is standing around with a camera or a cell phone.

Big woop.

There have been lots of "demonstrations" just like this in Toronto, where some speaker gets the crowd all worked up, and ten guys go out and break a few windows... until they get tired. Being all radical and window breaky is hard work.

The Metro cops and the OPP have demonstrated the proper method countless times, most recently with their publicly revealed treatment of Gary McHale and the Caledonia debacle.

You don't bother with the dumb @sses hitting the trucks. They'll get tired and go home pretty quick. Like maybe in an hour. You don't do anything to restrain or oppose the crowd either. What you do is take note of the ORGANIZERS, the ones who want this riot to take place. Then later you go arrest them when there's no crowd on hand. You trace their money trail and break it down. You trace their foreign connections and maybe drop a daisy cutter on them. That's the tactical way to do it.

Unfortunately the cops around here are restrained from doing that to anyone other than lily white Christians demanding equality before the law. Everybody else is treated as a special case by the Liberal regime. Otherwise a whole bunch of Mohawk Warriors would have dissapeared off the DCE as if by magic in the dead of night, only to appear in Cayuga court the next day. Probably a few local cigarette moguls too.

Same deal in Sweden.

The problem is not the Muslims. Ten guys breaking the windshield wipers off a truck is not a problem. The problem is the government. Duh.

It would have been more beneficial for the police to play Barney's I Love You, You Love Me. That would have had more of a deterrent effect than the response as the guy danced on the van kicking off the lights. At least he may have been embarrassed.

The problem, IMO, is that the Sweden-Israel match had to be played to an empty arena. If those people had been inside, what would have happened to the Israelis? The problem is Dubai barring an Israeli tennis player from entering their country.

The problem is that the elites agrees with the rabble crowd that Israel warrants being treated as a pariah. The CUPEs of the world agree with the Islamic anti-Jews that Isreal is guilty of all the "crimes" that I listed above.

The Islamists have been pretty cool about not pushing their advantage to the point of public outrage.

Not that it's been that hard for them.

Whenever I tell a Frenchman that 1,400+ cars were torched in France on New Year's Eve, I get a blank stare.

Wait'll they're given some decent weapons.

You are not giving the Swedes enough credit. They have long been the leaders in persnol suicide. They are nowing cleverly working on cultural and national suicide and they are like, way ahead.

Looking over some of the comments above, I've gotta say y'all are wasting your liver cells on pointless outrage.

Time to face it, my friends. There are lots of voters out there in Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver who hate Jews, want them all dead, and OUR GOVERNMENT has decided to let them go ahead with that. Not due to any principled agreement I'm sure, but because its easier.

Let us not forget who forms the government in these jurisdictions, shall we?

Let's just face it - in spite of the realities of the Nazi death camps and the long, long history of the oppression of Jews, most people in the Western world (and I find mainly liberals) do not like Jewish people - they try to hide their bias (and sometimes outright hatred) by putting conditional words on things, but deep down they hold a deep hatred for anything Jewish. They suspect their wealth, their religion, their customs, their history - everything. I suspect much of the suspicion is because Jews survive against huge obstacles and that flies in the face of the liberal doctrine - that only government or the elites can help the underprivileged rather than the underprivileged doing it themselves - which is what most Jewish people do (along with many others).

These youths need basketball courts.

Ahhhhhhh . . . the sweetness & light of the pure social democracies and the superiority of the Scandinavian social progressive model.

Must be in between welfare checks.

Maureen has it exactly right. The world is good at hating Jand murdering Jews because it is something at which it has truly "exceeded expectations" and people tend to repeat doing things at which they excel. The West used to excel at standing up to bullies and tyrants which is exactly what the islamofascists are. A bully will keep being a bully until you give them a force 10 smack down. For the sake of the very pleasant Judeo-Christian western society we have built (with all of its faults)I hope we kick the raggedly assed genie back into its fetid lamp sooner than before it is too later.

Why don't we just assume that anyone wearing a mask at these protests is up to no good? Then give the authorities the right to use (up to and including) lethal force if and when they break the law?

That would get it down to the serious players rather than the 'recreational' protester. Those who want to protest peacefully, can still do so (without the mask). They can also be identified, arrested and prosecuted if they break the law.

This may appear barbaric, but I see no reason to extend rights to mask wearing criminals who are clearly out to destroy property or persons in the community at large.

Wayne - I agree - anyone wearing a mask at something like that should be taken in to custody.

It also looks like someone was trying to torch one of the vans there with fireworks.

Our tolerant society. It appears that the role of the police there was to keep the observers at a safe distance, while letting the protestors do whatever they want. I can see how that starts - but it's a form of incrementalism - when will you risk harming a protestor for keeping the public peace??

A second thought - the France 24 broadcast was instructive.

What we hear in the world, other than our direct observations, depends on our filters.

If that France 24 broadcast so misrepresented the real story (who knows, were the cameras already set up inside? too dangerous outside, so just safer to stay put by the nice policemen?) - what else do we really know or not know?

The blogosphere can be quite informative that way, but in the end again you are depending on that filter, so it just reinforces your own beliefs.

I despair for the future

"While moderate Muslims may disown extremists and bar them from mosques, they do little to challenge extremist ideologies and the radical preachers merely regroup elsewhere, out of sight of both mainstream Muslims and the authorities."

They can't challenge extremist ideologies. The extremists are right according to the Quran, Hadith and all schools of Islamic jurisprudence. There is no such thing as moderate Islam. If Islam is understood correctly, Muslims would behave like their mass-murdering, rapist prophet, Mohammad. Rather, so-called moderates pick and choose what they want to believe. They are what Mohammad referred to as the hypocrites.

The Swedish Police outsourced their responsibilities to Muslims not to keep themselves out of harms way, but for political reasons. If they were doing what they were sworn to do in upholding the law, they'd play into the Muslims hands, with video and pictures that they can spread around the world to show that the Crusaders are indeed at war with them.

This will not end in a traditional civil war. Muslims from the ME and Africa are not countrymen, they are not indigenous to European countries. They are invaders and colonialists.

It's all been a very big 'progressive' mistake.

Barring the availability of live ammunition, I'd have truly loved to get a hold of a water cannon and send those exuberant misguided youth tumbling along the soaking wet pavement to the nearest basketball court.

Well, that's certainly the most exciting tennis match I've ever seen. They should do that for golf, too!

Militants come in all shapes and sizes... there's a few good examples, here, on this blog. Guaranteed, things will get worse along ethnic and racial lines, as long as the Neanderthals in society are allowed to spew their tripe.

Theirs is the way of violence, and if they weren't, themselves, scared shitless of their own Draconian authority, here, in Canada, they'd be out doing what the first commenter stated that he'd like to do.

People are the same, everywhere... and predictable.

Geez, I hate these joo hating extremists.

As an infidel, I've got to ask myself why do western countries allow themselves to be invaded by these people.

I'm in total agreement with Maureen.

The Left, neo-Communists, "progressives", liberals, Muslims, they all hate Jews because the Jews have proven that we don't need statism nor Communism nor fascism nor Islam to live well and survive. They have proven that people can take care of themselves, their families and countries without the totalitarianism of an authorative state apparatus telling them what to do/what not to do... and they don't need Islam, either, which is why the Muslims in the MidEast hate Israel, the only Jewish state in a massive Islamic region. No wonder the ISlamic nations, with the help of the KGB, concocted a Big Lie against Israel (learned very well from Goebbels, obviously) to justify to the world their attacks on that small, peaceful nation who only strikes back in self-defence or preemtption, because she wants to be left alone to live peacefully. Israel never bothered anyone in the first place; the Muslims drew first blood, attacking first, and this is the plain, indubitable truth which isn't being promulgated by the irresponsible, politically-correct, mostly-anti-Semitic Big Corporate Media.

Jealousy is a factor, too, as the lazy-ass Nazis were jealous of the self-made success of the Jews and wanted what they had, so the Nazis just stole from them and killed them.

In effect, it's the lazy, self-insufficient, intolerant, supremacistic, racist, socialistic, statist sloths of the world who tend to be anti-Semites. Yes, indeed... we must think about it that way. This is the kind of people who are bashing Israel, and those Israel-bashers should be called what they are- jealous, bigoted Judeophobes and lazy-bum statists/totalitarianism-philes. They're rationalizing their hatred and insanity by saying, "Hey, lots of people, the MSM and the governments, even the United Nations say Israel's bad, so we better go along with it, 'cause the more it's said that something is so, the more it must be so". Ah, precisely, exactly like the German People under Hitler/Goebbels' Third Reich...

As the saying goes... Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Just watch the Islamic Brownshirt scumbags and their enablers in the Big Media and protectors the Islamic police tokens proving this maxim true.

As the "Brownshirts" SA was replaced by the far more brutal, lethal SS, the Islamic Brownshirt thugs will be replaced by serious professional jihadists, the likes of what we saw on 9/11 and at the hotel in India... indeed, history is the precedent for this to happen. Maybe this is what the "Progressives" mean when they give themselves that label.

"As an infidel, I've got to ask myself why do western countries allow themselves to be invaded by these people."

Gordo... I guess we like it, because we're always going over there, and 'visiting' them.

Do not feed. ;)

Maureen at March 8, 2009 11:15 AM
Splendid post. You've nailed the essence of modern Jew-hatred, especially in the secular West where the Christ-killer blood libel no longer has much traction.

French TV. Recall, it was public French TV that most fervently pushed the infamous Al-Durah blood libel hoax. That Jew-killed "dead" little boy became the main icon of the second intifada.

Wayne: Yeah, really masks in public, or at the very least, at protests, should be banned.

Ya know, all these eruptions, including the recent pro-Hamas anti-Israel Gaza ones, aren't really protests as such. They are part of the steady unrelenting colonization of our lands. With each outing our lands become closer and closer to being part of the Islamic waqf. They aren't protesting against Israel. They are probing, testing, taking notes of our passivity. Claiming our lands for Allah. Allahu Akbar!

Seems like I need a little context here.

Like how do you all know what these individuals are protesting?

I've been to protests and it's not exactly MY responsibility to calm down some hoodlum who just wants to break shit or maim a cop car. Is it?

I am not authorized, I do not have the right to use force, and I am not backed up obviously if the crowd thinks I'm the new enemy and decides to break something of mine.

I think these guys breaking stuff are unknowns at this point. If you guys think its Muslim immigrants that don't know how to be civil, then the burden of proof is sort of on you in my mind. If you think these vandals are somehow representative of ALL immigrants, or are reflective of ALL recent Muslims then you have to make a better case. Or even make a case for that matter. Because only those who already share your bias might understand the basis for your assertions.

"I'm in total agreement with Maureen."

Big surprise.

Nice diatribe, there, CS... shot any "Islamofascists" today? Maybe all your guns are field-stripped, and you're cleaning them? Maybe your kids are doing it for you?

Hey, I'd recommend a .22 Ruger Auto, equipped with a suppressor and subsonic ammo. Remington makes some good quality rounds, in that respect.

I think they're Mossad-approved, too!

ANIMALS

"Do not feed."

There you go again, CS, playing blog cop. Hey, they're big boys and girls, Daddy needs to butt out, there's a good Nazi!

:-)

Gee, I hope there are no protests over the Israeli hockey team playing in our glorious Winter Olympics, here in Vancouver/Whistler, in 2010!

Naw, they'd never dare to do that in Canada, where law and order rule supreme.

Cave ahht...

Sheesh, man, don't be disturbing the apes with anything akin to logical reasoning, something might snap in their heads!

This is an Islamofascist-bashing site... have a little respect!

>;-)

Re. dmorris at March 8, 2009 1:06 PM

--I believe the Canuck hockey players know how to handle such a situation. We always see them "taking care of" one another quite effectively when they think the other's been an asshat... and hockey players, y'know, can be quite nasty when provoked...

A couple of these should solve the problem http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6297149.stm

"...and hockey players, y'know, can be quite nasty when provoked..."

Just for everyone's info, that was a veiled threat against me.

And, now, I'm just soooooo skeeeeered!

cave ahht, why don’t you process what’s being said here? Your generalizations are preposterous.

batb, well said. I like what Maureen’s saying too, but, WHY does the West have big—socialist—government, when it used to have, in general, small government and personal self-sufficiency (often at great cost)?

I notice all the side slipping here—always disappointing to me—re our own Judeo-Christian dispensation. Believe me, our present woes have everything to do with throwing out this fine heritage, which required high standards of personal and community behaviour.

One didn’t/doesn’t need to be a Christian or Jew to respect the Ten Commandments. However, when those rules were generally respected by civilized people, Western civilization inculcated self-control in the individual, with the understanding that the individual was not the be-all and end-all of life, the sorry state to which we’ve now descended, as batb notes as well. Here’s an apt cross post by me this morning from another thread:

P.S. In Canada, what do the people who opposed the Charter [which has completely deconstructed the Ten Commandments in favour of identity politics] from Day One have in common? I think it would be that most of them were observant Christians. Such people publicly warned of its consequences and spoke out against it—to a largely apathetic public.

I would also posit that Canada began to turn into a Vincent Li country when our Christian beliefs were largely abandoned: a hallmark of the “swinging” sixties, where anything—except orthodoxy of belief or manners (it’s called relativism)—was OK. The Charter has since codified that dangerous mindset and has been used as a battering ram to remove Christianity—and all Judeo-Christian symbols—from the public square.

G.K. Chesterton wrote, “If you don’t believe in something, you’ll fall for anything”. Pop and Marxist culture aren’t much to believe in. But the discernment built on the bedrock of the Judeo-Christian dispensation, which is fast being eroded (including in altogether too many touchy, feely, pseudo-Christian churches), is a fine antidote to the vacuity of our Charter culture. It’s no surprise that the elites are going after the Christians. Interesting . . . they’re going after the Jews too.

And which other major religion gets let off the hook? Talk about moral inversions. This doesn’t lead to any[where] good, IMO.

Yes, Kyrie eleison.

"One didn’t/doesn’t need to be a Christian or Jew to respect the Ten Commandments."

Well, considering that the first commandment is "thou shall have no other god before me", you DO need to be a jew or a christian in irder to "respect" that nonsense. I'm guessing that you're one of those "Christians" who keeps pushing the 10 commandments but, when put on the spot, could only name maybe 3 of them.

"However, when those rules were generally respected by civilized people..."

Right! And back in those days, kids walked 25 miles to school in the blistering blizzard in the middle of july, uphill both ways.

"cave ahht, why don’t you process what’s being said here? Your generalizations are preposterous."

You're waxing pretty general, yourself, Lookout. A lot of rhetoric, there, but pretty specific along the lines of this "Judeo-Christian" mania that seems to have the country by the balls, lately. What the hell does Israel have to do with Christianity? Who was it that originally condemned corporate Israel? Christ? Give that man/woman a cigar! Yet, we have this great whoring (in His name!) after an a amalgamation with a nation of non-Christians, a fair percentage of which are still waiting for the Messiah to come, (those not steeped in materialistic humanism like in North America) and it is quite UN-fashionable to preach against a belief system that was soundly rejected by this nation's pioneers!

Also, Humanism has no respect for the Decalogue, and it's Humanism that is a vital component of Socialism. Therefore, there is no need to observe any creed that introduces morality into an atheistic paradigm... it's foolish and impractical, in terms of Natural Selection and Evolution being the governing element.

All of a sudden we have the Israel thing, when only a few short years ago, you never heard squat about it.

Ever wonder why?

cave ahht said: "Seems like I need a little context here. Like how do you all know what these individuals are protesting?"

They're outside the tennis stadium where the Israel vs. Sweden match is being played in front of empty bleachers.

The bleachers are empty because the government decided not to allow spectators.

They decided not to allow spectators because there were lots of death threats and lots of Leftist and Muslim organizations vowed to shut the match down. They wanted to avoid a riot. Oops. Well, at least the riot happened outside where there's less stuff to break. Or burn down.

So, there's a pretty good chance the violent @ssholes breaking the cop vehicles were Leftists and/or radical Muslims demonstrating against Israel. Hard to tell what with the masks and all.

I suppose they could be members of the Swedish Ladies Quilting Circle protesting the price of silk thread, but the chances are against it.

That being said, if the protests you attended were in Canada, you're right. You're not "authorized" to interfere with a vandal destroying public or private property, not even if its -your- property. Indeed, if you attempt to interfere with the vandals, you will be arrested. Ask a Yonge St. store owner.

That's the problem. Are we learning yet?

Once the population of Muslims exceeds 2% in a country, radical muslim activities increase dramatically. Canada is at 1.9%.

SWEDEN AND MUSLIM IMMIGRATION
Sweden has been traditionally a welcoming country for immigrants. Labor migration was the primary reason for moving to Sweden in the 1960’s and 1970’s, while during the last 20 years, the migration has been more due to family reunion and asylum. Within a wide array of nationalities and ethnicities, Muslims have become the most populous ethnic group. From the beginning of the 1980s there has been a significant Muslim population in Sweden. Before that it was only a small, fairly anonymous minority.
The Muslims arrived in the country primarily through immigration from countries with large Muslim populations (such as Bosnia and Herzegovina, Turkey, Morocco, Iraq, Iran, Somalia and Lebanon) in the late 20th century. Most Muslims in Sweden are either immigrants or descendants of those immigrants. As of 2000, there were more than 300,000 Muslims in Sweden, of which 100,000 are second generation. In 2007, it is estimated that 470,000 Muslims live in the country, representing about 4.5% of the total Swedish population (9 million). The majority of recent Muslim immigrants are from the Middle East, especially Iraq and Iran, and the broader Muslim population is centered around Stockholm, Gothenburg and Malmö.

http://www.maxwell.syr.edu/moynihan/programs/ces/EUSIM08-n.p.statements/SWEDEN-NationalPositionStatement.pdf

"That's the problem. Are we learning yet?"

You're not learning, that's for sure, Phantom. A lot of people, much like yourself, like to go to events just to cause shit to happen, and you have no way of knowing who's behind those masks, or what their agenda is. You're so full of racist bigotry, you and your ilk, here, that you only hear one word...

MOOZELUM! (sic)

Reminds me of a show, years ago, where a redneck sheriff was drawing a composite of a suspect in a crime. The witness was giving him all the features of a Caucasian male, but the picture still came out Negro. He wanted to see a certain face, and he saw it, regardless of the attesting evidence, or lack, thereof.

I suppose you'd have been right in there, busting heads, too, in defense of Israel, simply on the basis of the injustice of it all, right?

Better be certain!

Babt and Lookout, I completely agree with your sentiments as they very much reflect my own with a few variants in the history. Christianity was rapidly fading as a societal foundation by WW II. However the real question is what are we as Christians doing to re-establish Christianity as a cornerstone in our present world? As a community we speak with too many disparate voices each claiming to speak the whole truth. Each voice doing what it can to inveigle adherents through religious baubles and beads all the while leaving out the intellectual underpinnings of Christianity thus leaving the field wide open to the worshipers of death and destruction.

Jesus said "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind". Unfortunately we can't seem to get all three aspects of our personality in sync with this precept. We attempt to love Him with our heart as an emotional response rather than an act of will and so forget the wisdom contained in Him. We seek the wisdom and then duck the persecution that inevitably follows. Distracted by the 'shinies' of this world we are content with another cup of thinnest spiritual gruel to sate our hunger for Truth.

Speaking personally I choose to light a candle instead of cursing the dark. In my own feeble way I attempt, with the Grace given me, to convert one soul at a time. What we as Christians need to realize is that the enemy (Islam, Secular Humanism, Scientism) is a house of cards that maintains itself through intimidation, bluff and bravado.

"What we as Christians need to realize is that the enemy (Islam, Secular Humanism, Scientism) is a house of cards that maintains itself through intimidation, bluff and bravado."

I would modify that in this way... that ignorance (that which abounds, here!) is the main proponent of evil.

Posted by: The Highwayman at March 8, 2009 2:29 PM

If you are seriously arguing that these "protesters" are anything other than Muslims and anti-semites, you either have an agenda of your own and are intentionally lying, or you're simply a moron. Either way, don't expect anyone to take you seriously.

I was merely pointing out the possibility that there might have been other factions present, there, Joe, same as Cave Ahht.

So, prove me wrong, without resorting to the bigoted rhetoric that the simple spoon-feed off of, around here!

Sorry, I meant Alex.

Sorry, but the fact that many of the commenters here have a knee-jerk tendency to blame Muslims for everything doesn't change the fact that your comment/argument is retarded.

Yes, there's a possibility that they're not muslims. And there's a possibility that they're not human, too. Possibility does not equal reality.

"...but the fact that many of the commenters here have a knee-jerk tendency to blame Muslims for everything..."

Well... there's one small step for man...

"Yes, there's a possibility that they're not muslims."

... and one GIANT leap for mankind!

"Possibility does not equal reality."

Reality isn't comprised of bigoted rhetorical programming, either.

Joe, lighting candles, such as prayer and individual Christian witness, is very important. And, when the underpinnings of Judeo-Christianity were stronger in the West, I believe that more candles were lit. Mature and free individuals, who exercised self-control, took on the responsibility to do it: they didn’t stand back and say, “Where’s the government?”

As we’ve become more reliant on government—more socialist—AND astoundingly less religiously observant, in the JUDEO-CHRISTIAN meaning of that idea, our societies have become much more selfish and dangerous places—places ripe for COLONIZATION (BRAVO, Irwin Daisy!) by militantly religious foreigners, who hold an altogether different idea of society. Guess what? Our idea of “civilization” is altogether foreign to their way of thinking. They have never known it and don’t much care for it. Treating us as the infidels they believe us to be (with some justification, I must say) is their goal. Are these militant Muslim fanatics at all concerned about OUR sensibilities and feelings? (Rhetorical question!)

In the apostate West, the religious fanatic barbarians—actually PROTECTED by our blind-as-bats, humanistic, aggressively anti-Christian human rights (sic) industry—are inside the gates. And, unlike our forebears, the West, being, for the most part, bloated by religious couch potatoes and slouches, with no courage or zeal—except to feed our individual, unsatiated appetites—just stands by and watches its own destruction. Just how smart is that?

God help us.

Too bad we don't have the Riot Act anymore!

Alex, you're feeding the troll. This is a bad thing.

Sweden is reaping the harvest of the seeds they sewed many years ago!

Survival of the fittest, Sweden’s liberal left socialist ideologies have proven it is the weak link in the evolution of civilization and has failed.

We now need to leave it to its miserable and undignified death and LEARN from it, or suffer the same fate. We are well on our way now, and need to completely shift our own society’s paradigm concerning multiculturalism, immigration and the tolerance towards cultures within our midst.

"This is depressing. very depressing. The world seems to shrug..."

"all it takes to allow disaster is for good men and women to do nothing."

I can only hope that my fellow posters are not simply directing their concerns and distress to Kate's comments board.

Like the "good men and women" quote, one of my favorites is "if it is to be, it's up to me". I try to keep friends and acquaintainces abreast of what's going on around them, while encouraging them to take action.

Only a constant and consistent groundswell of pressure from 'the masses' will cause politicians to act. It's the 'squeaky wheel' theory and we all know who is doing the loudest and most consistent squeaking. We have to counter that.

For example, I will be sending an e-mail detailing that Malton Liberal MP Gurbax Malhi attended and spoke at a rally in support of the banned terrorist organization the Tamil Tigers, just today. http://tinyurl.com/d6ga9s

The photo shows him surrounded by Tamil Tiger flags. In speaking he said he supported their cause, yet to the press he claimed he had just stumbled upon the rally as a passerby and had no idea that it was Tamil supported.

Ninety five percent of Canadians will have no idea (and sadly, perhaps 85% could not care less) that 'Members of Parliament' are actively participating with declared terrorist factions and in effect, against their 'own' country. Therefore, I believe it's both in our own interest and our duty, to hold their feet to the fire by generating as much adverse publicity as possible. It's all about the votes after all.

It's also important to let people know that the story isn't just an 'ignorant or ill-informed' MP attending, but the fact that Liberal MP Derek Lee sent out an e-mail to ALL CAUCUS members, supporting the rally and encouraging them to attend.

People had better begin to understand which parties are acting in our best interests and which are prepared to subvert the interests of their own country in order to secure power.

Mr. Ignatieff, Mr. Ignatieff,.... hello, are you there?

Lookout, I commend to your attention the following:
phantomsoapbox.blogspot.com/2009/03/us-bishops-find-pair.html

Catholic bishops in the US are publicly saying they will shut down all the Catholic hospitals in the country if The One signs the "Freedom of Choice Act" about to be tabled in the Congress by Jerald Nadler D-Whatever.

True to the best Lefty Orwellian traditions, the Freedom of Choice Act removes the freedom of physicians and hospitals to chose whether or not to do abortions or other reproductive related medical procedures.

It should be said that not all the bishops are saying the hospitals should be shut down. Some are saying they will just defy the law instead.

So don't freak out just yet old son. The giant is waking up cranky.

Swedish policy:

"Currently, Sweden is facing large challenges in regard to integration. Even if Sweden possesses one of the soundest welfare states in Western Europe, offering immigrants (Muslim and non-Muslim alike) with the full range of benefits, the country has not provided sufficient employment, which is the key of integration. Because of this, Muslim communities in Sweden follow a well-established pattern: children grow up seeing their parents unemployed and socially excluded, and, in turn, inherit their frustration. These children then become marginalized, themselves subject to high employment and rising crime rates, as evidenced in the wave of rapes in Malmö in recent years, and petty crime throughout immigrant communities. Thus, comprehensive employment programs and initiatives are critical in transforming a society from one merely open to immigrants into one that offers immigrants a productive position and membership within that society."

So its not the fault of the muslims for their crime and social upheaval its Sweden fault for not just providing its incredible social welfare but then providing the muslims with jobs. Guess when you are hugging your daughter or wife after a muslim has brutally raped them you have to tenderly whisper its all our fault for not giving him employment.

"Once the population of Muslims exceeds 2% in a country, radical muslim activities increase dramatically. Canada is at 1.9%."

no-name,

There are approximately 600,000 - 700,000 Muslims in Canada. Half in Toronto. Islamofascist organizations such as CAIR are constantly inflating numbers as propaganda to build political clout. For example, CAIR consistently states that there are 7 million Muslims in the US. However, PEW research has published data showing 2.2 million. And of those, most are Nation of Islam. A different sect than the dominant Sunnis, but not necessarily less violent, RE: the zebra killings in S.F.

The same can be said about the imaginary 1.4 billion Muslims in the world, when only last year there were 1.2. It's all part of the intimidation - stealth jihad tactics incorporated into the 'world's fastest growing religion' propaganda.

They are liars. Lying and deception are the tenets of Islam when addressing the Kuffars in dar al Harb.

Troll

If you want to be taken seriously you might want to go back to your site and delete all the singular comments you made to your posts.

Syncro

It’s amazing to me that pompous lefty ass*oles still post crap like”there’s a possibility their not Muslims”.

If you are so naive and unworldly to not understand the whole issue of Islam’s youth gangs ongoing throughout Europe and Sweden you have no business posting on the topic to begin with. Only a complete idiot watching these videos would not recognize the “same ol” Muslim youth gangs and suggest that it may be someone else! Again it returns to the pompous “you people know nothing, and I know everything because I’m culturally sensitive and you are not”. What you are is an ignorant fool, far from understanding the world you live in.

Had the video been anything but Muslim’s they would have been tasered clubbed and jailed. The MSM would have screamed to high heaven that some group had been attempting to frame the Muslim community and we would have been subjected to weeks of stories about how the Muslims get a bum rap by imposters all the time.

Any comments to the contrary that these were indeed the typical Muslim gangs controlling and terrorizing European streets are false and misleading. The persons posting such crap deserve whatever their delusional lives will eventually bring them, as liberal Sweden is discovering for itself.

Thanks, Phantom. I think that ignoring the law would be the best thing. Then there'd have to be a big court case. Maybe then people would see the totalitarian reach of "pro-choice": "NO CHOICE BUT OUR CHOICE".

What bloody—literally—hypocrites they are.

(And bravo to the RC bishops: the Anglicans wouldn’t say a word—except probably in favour of Obama’s jackboot tactics.)

Are they the moderate Muslims the leftards keeping yapping on about? If so may god have mercy on our cowardly souls, we fought the Nazis to prevent this kind of stuff. The socialist are fueled by hate and self loathing, this is the evolution of socialism I'm afraid. And it's already in Canada, those pro-Hamas hatefest rallies were as ugly as they come but MSM reported they were civil and peaceful.

Posted by: The Highwayman>

“Phantom's small mind cannot abide with honest debate”

I’m sorry what debate was that? I haven’t read one ounce of debate on your part, certainly no facts or references.

You have simply done what every lefty troll that blows through SDA has done in the past, that is attack and name-call other commenter’s. You attempt to derail the topics and make the conversation about you, which indeed seems to work allot of the time. You are essentially a “conservative blog site terrorist”. Don’t worry there are thousands of you out there, you are not unique or special.

The point is you accomplish NOTHING. You change no opinions, you gain no respect and you fuel the conservative distain for the left. You help the conservative cause by proving the mental inabilities of your ilk. Why on earth do you bother? I can only guess some kind of righteous delusional state, mixed with some kind of bizarre masochism fetish.

Weird nonetheless.

The upside is it answers to Troll.

Syncro

Never mind Knight, he's just some dumb kid wasting a rainy Sunday baiting people smarter and older than he is.

I already deleted his crap off my blog, I'm sure Kate won't be far behind.

Got to love the dimwit that admonishes everyone as bigoted and then throws out the old hackneyed "redneck sheriff" slur out without catching his own bigotry. A little slow with his brain synapse looping.

The NYT's describes the protestors in Malmo as "dozens of", so, 24, 36, 48, whatever, the headcount was probably far under a hundred, and the Swedish weenies couldn't handle that or chose to humiliate/undermine the Israelis?

Adding to Maureen's comment, Jews got hated with the rise of socialist weenie Europe when they stopped being victims and fought back. The left loves needy victims and Israel deviated from that script. Socialism saps testosterone, folks. Most male Euroweenie trigger fingers have been poised only on a latte cup for decades. Throwing expresso at a terrorist is about the best that can do and they know it.

Got to love the dimwit that admonishes everyone as bigoted and then throws out the old hackneyed "redneck sheriff" slur out without catching his own bigotry. A little slow with his brain synapse looping.

The NYT's describes the protestors in Malmo as "dozens of", so, 24, 36, 48, whatever, the headcount was probably far under a hundred, and the Swedish weenies couldn't handle that or chose to humiliate/undermine the Israelis?

Adding to Maureen's comment, Jews got hated with the rise of socialist weenie Europe when they stopped being victims and fought back. The left loves needy victims and Israel deviated from that script. Socialism saps testosterone, folks. Most male Euroweenie trigger fingers have been poised only on a latte cup for decades. Throwing expresso at a terrorist is about the best that they can do and they know it.

"You're offending the self-appointed censers of this blog, Alex. You'll lose points, buddy!"

I don't particularly care whom I offend, and I'm not your goddamn buddy. Phantom is right - you're a troll. Referring to SDA as a "hate site" is almost as idiotic as suggesting that the protesters in this video aren't Muslims. No matter how many times you claim to be looking for "democratic debate" (WTF??) it's clear that you're just looking to stir up shit in order to feed your ego. Whatever the faults of some commenters here may be, none of that excuses your childish behavior or your disingenuous arguments. Either grow up or go away.

All the Swedes with backbones and brains must have emigrated to North America about a century ago. That depleted the Swedish gene pool to the point that a ragtag little gang of verminous thugs can vandalize police vehicles with impunity. Sweden is doomed unless they are able to elect a government with enough balls to deport each and every muslim who commits a violent act.

Syncro
ROLF and so true; see this every time with these special anointed ones from the unicorn schools of higher learning, er brainwashing.

Posted by: Alex at March 8, 2009 4:53 PM >>

WELL SAID!

Here is a partial re-post that I had made on “syncrodox” blogsite.

The bottom half of my original rebuttal still stands here.

"……………………….. Conservative “right” radio and blogs have boomed in recent years, because of the silent majorities thirst for the truth. The working public knows what truth and justice is when it hears it and the orators of those messages reap the benefits and accolades of exposing the censoring agenda and war on our societies by the once but no longer fringe left.

The highwayman’s comments are close to verbatim for failed lefty blogger Warren Kinsella. The seething jealousy of successful right wing blogs such as SDA is palpable and fetid. It’s as bad as any lazy welfare recipient envious and screaming “injustice” that the wealthy hard working entrepreneur living on the other side of the tracks somehow owes him a living. Worse the rational is that the successful deserve to fail, simply because they themselves cannot find the rational ground to measure up. Their success is beyond their scope of understanding so then becomes the childlike fight to tear them down instead of looking inward for an answer. Some self criticism and honest analysis will go a long way in mending the faulty logic that keeps them at the back of the pack"

Stupid trolls, always skim back up a thread then scroll the obvious ignorant ones.
:~)

What's truly pathetic is his "I know that there are silent readers out there who get what I'm saying"
LOL, yeah, loads of readers come to SDA to read the h'man's opinion.
I almost long for the days of Real feeding its gibberish through a spell check four or five times!
What a petty, little man!

"Multiwreck"? LOL! You're a moron who's intelct peaks at changing people's names.
Go away little boy.

"You sh-----ds are calling for the annihilation of a culture whose only crime is that they think differently from you!"

And there you have it folks! Inability to reason plus poor reading comprehension and a bad memory all harnessed to bubbling hatred in searh of an outlet. He's perfect! A 10 on the Troll Scale.

Next time this dork shows up let's all ignore the hell out him, eh? He'll frickin' explode! It'll be -awesome-.

Me No Dhimmi: "They aren't protesting against Israel. They are probing, testing, taking notes of our passivity. Claiming our lands for Allah. Allahu Akbar!"

That's why the police standing by and doing NOTHING when those thugs started vandalizing the police vans is so despicable: Basically, these Islamofascists were given free rein to do anything they wanted; they were breaking the law and "the law"(sic) stood by and did nothing. The police should have apprehended them.

In this case, the law was a total, ineffectual, despicable ass. Passing off law "enforcement" (sic) to Muslims is a cop-out on the part of the Swedes and has basically given the message to the fanatical Islamists that they've won. Now, they'll simply escalate their protests. At what point WILL the law step in to restrain them? That's their job, that's what they're trained to do and paid to do, and they're not doing it. They are not protecting the public from violence. Again, the radical Islamists have won and democracy, once again, has lost.

Read Bruce Bauer's book "While Europe Slept: How Radical Islam is Destroying the West from Within." It covers most of the issues we're discussing here -- except, unfortunately, lookout, one of the main reasons why Europe fell alseep; we'll continue to be voices crying in the wilderness but we are in good company! Bauer talks a lot about accommodation and cowardice.

Posted by: The Highwayman at March 8, 2009 7:20 PM>

You’re not a lefty?

Lefty trolling blogger 101 =

1) Let’s start with the basic uncalled for and unintelligent name calling – specifically terms such as “knuckle draggers”, “dolts”, “dipsticks”, “shitheads”, “losers”, “brainless”, “waste of skin”, “Neanderthals”, “morons”, ……….To list a few without remarking on the occasional less child like insults such as “self-righteous egos” ………

2) Make unbelievably false arguments and misdirect the comments with nonsense such as “you have no way of knowing who's behind those masks, or what their agenda is”.

3) Attempt to trash the blog site you have invaded and indeed are not wanted by labeling it as “hate mongering” and “racist” - make sure you throw in at least one reference to Nazi’s (as you did above). Along with “Islamofacist bashing site”.

4) Criticize everyone else for trying to silence your illogical arguments when that is exactly what you are attempting to accomplish.

5) Insure the direction of the thread becomes completely self absorbed so that you can write a final self sympathetic obituary with plenty of “Me, me, me, me’s” and “I, I, I, I, I’s”.

6) Give the illusion that your reasonable and sane by referring to words like “debate” and “discussion” as if you actually had any real intention of giving or having one. Repeat this claim frequently so that others not paying full attention believe that this is your real objective and that you are providing the only reasoned voice.

La troll's obviously related or in love with dumb blond types and can't figure out why there are some who actually are not impressed with lipstick and mascara on a pig's butt...

The Swedes appeased/feared the fascist freaks last time and came out of it unscathed, looks like the same old racist plan is still good enough for them today.

I do like the “Islamofacist bashing site”. It works for me.

I gather the Highwaytroll would like to protect them?

video is gone, a good old "This video has been removed due to terms of use violation." in it's place.

Interesting how so many of these types of video disappear from YouTube.

video is gone, a good old "This video has been removed due to terms of use violation." in it's place.

Interesting how so many of these types of video disappear from YouTube.
Posted by: ChrisinMB at March 9, 2009 12:27 PM

Yep. Down the Orwellian memory hole.

I also wanted to see the video, unfortunately it has been removed.
A year ago I have read couple of books about what is happening in Europe, in particular in Malmo, Sweden and in England. I could not believe it. Unfortunately after reading recent speech of a lady who is a leader of a second largest political party in Norway, Siv Jensen I finally saw the light (or was it a darkness?) She was talking about neighbouring Sweden. She specifically named Malmo as a town where the police are afraid to go to Muslim districts (police frightened !!!) and where the firefighters are set upon and beaten by the very people whose houses go in flames.

"Got to love the dimwit that admonishes everyone as bigoted and then throws out the old hackneyed "redneck sheriff" slur out without catching his own bigotry. A little slow with his brain synapse looping."

-This is from Penny at the start of her post

-and then this is Penny's comments at the last of her post-

"Most male Euroweenie trigger fingers have been poised only on a latte cup for decades. Throwing expresso at a terrorist is about the best that they can do and they know it."

The irony is just too funny! Penny you are a riot!!
What's sad is you are such a bigot you dont even see it.

I am sure that the Dutch and Danes fighting with us would disagree with your narrow minded opinions.
I dont think Jesus would be proud of you.

"As an infidel, I've got to ask myself why do western countries allow themselves to be invaded by these people."

Gordo... I guess we like it, because we're always going over there, and 'visiting' them.

Posted by: The Highwayman at March 8, 2009 12:39 PM
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And visa versa. They especially liked the World Trade Centre, Bali night clubs, the USS Cole, London subways and Spanish trains....what goes around comes around.

The type of 'visits' that I'd like prefer to give them is the receiving end of a JDAM. Frankly, GWB was a bit of a wimp in my opinion.

This is astonishing from England:
Police forced the protesters into an area by the town's shopping centre and two lines of officers separated them from a large number of local people, some waving Union and St George's flags.

At one point a man climbed onto the roof of the Arndale shopping centre and hurled a packet of bacon at the Muslim group.

A Bedfordshire police spokeswoman said the Muslim protesters were later 'escorted from the area to a safe place where they were allowed to disperse.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1160958/Muslim-anti-war-protesters-abuse-British-soldiers-baby-killers-homecoming-parade.html

Irwin Daisy:

Thanks for the info - I was not aware the numbers were inflated. I do not know where the stats are coming from - polls or census - in the Canadian or Swedish percentages given. Good point.