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February 6, 2009

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Good evening ladies and gentlemen, welcome to SDA Late Nite Radio. Tonight, for your delectation and pursuant to our Thursday night wild-card show, here are Pink Floyd performing, from their album Meddle (the third LP, it turns out, that I ever purchased), a tune now finally available via the Interwebothique, and one of the most interesting songs ever: Echoes ~ I, II, & III (1971, 23:31). Echoes, along with Iron Butterfly's In A Gadda Da Vida, were among the first psychedelic rock works to occupy an entire side of a modern LP; they are, indeed, seminal works in the history of modern rock, psychedelia, and electronica.

Update: wait, wait, there's more. I see where (pursuant to research undertaken in relation to the comments) the original 1967 BBC footage of Pink Floyd's Astronomy Domine is now available again via the Interwebothique, and I must say, it is quite something.

Your Reader Tips are, as always, welcome in the comments.


For the record, here are the lyrics to Echoes:

Overhead the albatross hangs motionless upon the air
And deep beneath the rolling waves in labyrinths of coral caves
The echo of a distant tide
Comes willowing across the sand
And everything is green and submarine

And no one showed us to the land
And no one knows the wheres or whys
But something stirs and
Something tries
And starts to climb towards the light

Strangers passing in the street
By chance two separate glances meet
And I am you and what I see is me

And do I take you by the hand
And lead you through the land
And help me understand the best I can

And no one calls us to the land
And no one forces down our eyes
And no one speaks
And no one tries
And no one flies around the sun

Cloudless every day you fall
Upon my waking eyes
Inviting and inciting me to rise

And through the window in the wall
Comes streamin in on sunlight wings
A million bright ambassadors of morning

And no one sings me lullabies
And no one makes me close my eyes
So I throw the windows wide
And call to you across the sky...

Posted by Vitruvius at February 6, 2009 12:01 AM

Comments

I see Mike Duffy is stirring it up in the Senate. Wish Don Cherry could join him.

I also see that Bourque has got WK's goat - Big Time !! Must have, because WK has reverted to name calling - dork bought.

Posted by: ron in kelowna at February 5, 2009 10:35 PM

Man bites dog story from Bloomberg: "Castro Questions Obama’s Policies on Energy, U.S. Foreign Trade"

Castro defends free trade and WTO; lashes out at protectionism and quest for "energy independence".

Posted by: Jan in Montreal at February 5, 2009 10:45 PM

Madoff Outrage: Whistleblower Testimony Rips SEC

The Madoff whistleblower, Harry Markopolos, has finally and publicly detailed his nearly eight-year investigation into Bernard Madoff -- a period in which Markopolos said he feared for his life.


Posted by: Bernie at February 5, 2009 11:05 PM

Echoes is one of my favorites from Floyd. Shine On You Crazy Diamond is another. Just saw the Australian Pink Floyd's The Wall tour. The Wall isn't my fave Floyd album but it was a great concert.

Angry White Dude

Posted by: Angry White Dude at February 5, 2009 11:06 PM

*
tonights moonbat moments on cbc... mansbridge advances the dark theory that obama
is actually snubbing the harper government with this five hour visit... rex murphy
concurs.

they get paid for that shite?

seriously?

*

Posted by: neo at February 5, 2009 11:17 PM

And don't forget Astronomy Domine ('67), Dude, which
we previously featured here at SDA Late Nite Radio, and
which (Ummagumma) was one of my other first albums.

Posted by: Vitruvius at February 5, 2009 11:19 PM

You have to be kidding RE the supposed snub. Isn't this the first foreign visit for christsakes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????

Posted by: john at February 5, 2009 11:22 PM

Tubular Bells.

Or Tull's "Thick as a Brick"...

Posted by: mojo at February 5, 2009 11:30 PM

Patrick Muttart, Woodstock Ontario's native son and Stephen Harper confidant is leaving for the private sector according to Tonda McCharles and CTV.

Patrick and his father Patrick Sr. were the principals at the forefront of organizing disaffected Mulroney / Clarke Progressive Conservatives into the Reform Party in Oxford County, while Patrick Junior was still in high school.

Patrick is married to an American girl.

I suspect he will resurface in the U.S. most likely within the sphere of the Republican Party, and Lord knows the GOP can use a brilliant strategist right now.

Sarah Palin's in Alaska might be a good fit, eh?

I am proud to know Patrick, and congratulate him on his achievements in his young life!

God speed Patrick Muttart.

Posted by: Joe Molnar at February 5, 2009 11:33 PM

Snub..? cbc is only fantasizing and projecting on the rest of us from they're subsidized soapbox - thats all it is.

Posted by: Agent Smith at February 5, 2009 11:33 PM

Roger Waters had to apologise to Andrew lloyd-Weber for suggesting, while somewhat in his cups in the course of a media interview, that the latter had stolen the theme for "Phantom of the Opera" from this piece. ALW could document that he'd sketched it out before Meddle was released. Hey, great minds think alike.

Posted by: ebt at February 5, 2009 11:36 PM

somebody hand Danny Whiner a great big cup of shut the fuk up.


http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090205/duffy_comments_090205/20090205?hub=TopStories

remember this loser said that Barry Obama learned from him.

King of the Duff sitters takes one from Duffy himself. Addaboy Mike.

PEI the most overgoverned and over represented place on earth. Prince Edward Island has four Members of Parliament, four Senators, 27 Members of the Legislative Assembly and two cities, seven towns and sixty incorporated rural communities yielding over five hundred municipal councillors and mayors. This gives a total of 566 elected officials for a population of 135000 or one for every 240 people. plus the civil service , plus the GST office and the all the extras on the CBCpravda crap historical dramas and there cant be a person with a legit job on the island.

Ghiz and PEI shouldnt be insulted the ROC should be insulted for keeping the sandbar in business. It would have been cheaper to boot the lot of them and turn it into a national park then keep them entitled to their entitlements.

Posted by: cal2 at February 5, 2009 11:39 PM

Of course CBC will drag out their silly little story.
Heh..perhaps its PMSH who is snubbing the Big O, and wants the visit short..now that would be good news!

Posted by: bluetech at February 5, 2009 11:42 PM

make sure to vote at CTV(tass) poll on Danny Whine for Wine Williams.


http://www.ctv.ca/

top right hand corner.


Posted by: cal2 at February 5, 2009 11:44 PM

The Next Bubble: Student Loans And Academia (Forbes)

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/05/the-next-bubble-student-loans-and-academia/


Posted by: ron in kelowna at February 5, 2009 11:48 PM

Actually, Mojo, we did Tubular Bells here last April 13'th. And, interestingly, I was considering Aqualung for tonight's show, alas, I'm afraid I'm stuck on Pink Floyd for now ~ check out the update to the main entry ;-)

Posted by: Vitruvius at February 5, 2009 11:48 PM

Careful with that axe , Eugene!

Posted by: cal2 at February 6, 2009 12:02 AM

Back in the days when I used to host dance parties in my house for about a hundred or so "friends", Cal2, I actually did rent speakers and amplifiers, on occasions when I felt my stock equipment would benefit from additional balance, from Axe Music. And at those sound pressure levels, careful was certainly the order of the day, sir, I assure you.

Posted by: Vitruvius at February 6, 2009 12:23 AM

I guess they all cant paint "voices of fire" although a house painter could.


http://www.cbc.ca/arts/story/2009/02/05/artists-statistics.html


Vitruvius- I was still enscounced in the parental dwelling in the axe years. but when they were out you could get the china jumping.

Posted by: cal2 at February 6, 2009 12:28 AM

If, and only if, one was careful, Cal2, otherwise one ended up with broken china, and less than impressed (upon their return) parental units. Thus the advantage to owning one's own residence: no china.

Posted by: Vitruvius at February 6, 2009 12:32 AM

My friend bought Ummagumma on 8 track, and we plugged it in on a "road trip". After about 20 minutes, he rolled down his window, and tossed it out. It just seemed right. It was a good album, it just had to be thrown out the window.

One bit of advice, don't listen to "The Final Cut" if you're alone, depressed, and high/drunk.

"The Wall" was written and recorded in a very short time, because the Floyd had some financial troubles. Quite amazing what a great album it turned out to be. Considering Axel Rose took several years producing his latest, and it's crap, maybe spur of the moment is the key to artistic success.

I turned down a chance to see them in Edmonton, in the 80s, because I had to work. One of those things you never get back.

Posted by: dp at February 6, 2009 12:33 AM

I was 14 at the time of ummmgumma, wouldnt exit for another 3 years. or house own for 4 more.

Posted by: cal2 at February 6, 2009 12:42 AM

More importantly, DP: don't drink when you're depressed. Not that I've ever been depressed, so, no problem. Meanwhile: Pink Floyd. Yeah, sure, but all the fundamental techniques in The Wall were presaged in Ummagumma and Meddle anyway, much as I did enjoy their live preformance here in Edmonton in '95. I mean, sure, it wasn't Led Zepplin and Santana on consecutive Friday and Saturday nights like when I attended at the Olympiahalle in Munich in '81 stoned on Amsterdam acid, but you simply have to give Pink Floyd maximal credit for the product of their production values cross time. In the old days, we called them troupers.

Posted by: Vitruvius at February 6, 2009 12:52 AM

I always liked the Ummagumma version of Astronomy Domine, I'm not a big Pink Floyd fan but that's probably my favourite song of theirs.

For solid side-long tracks, there's always Supper's Ready by Genesis or In Held Twas In I by Procol Harum. Or even Close To The Edge, or The Revealing Science of God, by Yes ...

Posted by: nv53 at February 6, 2009 1:20 AM

Understood, yet they all came later, no? Thus, seminal in the former cases.

Posted by: Vitruvius at February 6, 2009 1:38 AM

"the third LP, it turns out, that I ever purchased"

Hey, this could turn into a fun thread. What was the first LP you ever bought?

Mine was Dire Straits' first album when it was first released. I played it on my super cool, belt-driven (I forget if direct drive had been invented yet), Shure cartridge-equipped Pioneer manual turntable. It went through a 15W per channel, 0.5% THD integrated amp to a pair of 8" woofers (and some tweeters) in acoustic suspension enclosures. I lusted after bass-reflex JBLs but couldn't afford them.

Now I listen to music on my relatively crappy (audio-wise) computer, but since I'm older, think it sounds great.

Posted by: PiperPaul at February 6, 2009 1:46 AM

You may be wondering how many teachers support the latest BCTF missive against standardized testing. How many oppose? This little clause ensures that you will never know. Check out bullet #8.
http://bctf.ca/ProfessionalResponsibility.aspx?id=4292

Posted by: anonymous in BC at February 6, 2009 2:10 AM

"Vitruvius- I was still enscounced in the parental dwelling in the axe years. but when they were out you could get the china jumping."

Love the selection tonight, and brings back memories.The parents used to grocery shop every Friday night,and the Cerwin Vega D-9's got a work out.I had a dual turntable, Carver M-500t amp, and C-1 pre-amp. I never broke anything but I got the feeling the nearest neighbor, didn't like my taste of music.

I have to disagree about "The Final Cut", it's one of my favorites.

This article about Roger Waters many here might find interesting:

http://www.pink-floyd.org/artint/rw130500.htm

Posted by: Mugs at February 6, 2009 5:15 AM

Ahhh yes. Hope and Fear*.

O: "we have chosen hope over fear."

Kruathammer: "Until, that is, you need fear to pass a bill."

*Hope and its little sister, Fear.
...-

"The Fierce Urgency of Pork
Washington Post ^ | 6 FEB 09 | Charles Krauthammer

"A failure to act, and act now, will turn crisis into a catastrophe." -- President Obama, Feb. 4.

Catastrophe, mind you. So much for the president who in his inaugural address two weeks earlier declared "we have chosen hope over fear." Until, that is, you need fear to pass a bill.

And so much for the promise to banish the money changers and influence peddlers from the temple. An ostentatious executive order banning lobbyists was immediately followed by the nomination of at least a dozen current or former lobbyists to high position. Followed by a Treasury secretary who allegedly couldn't understand the payroll tax provisions in his 1040. Followed by Tom Daschle, who had to fall on his sword according to the new Washington rule that no Cabinet can have more than one tax delinquent."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2179580/posts
...-

Charles Lamb:

"Hope* is charming, lively, blue-eyed wench, & I am always glad of her company, but could dispense with the visitor she brings with her, her younger sister, fear*, a white liver'd-lilly-cheeked, bashful palpitating, awkward hussey that hangs like a green girl at her sister's apron strings & will go with her whithersoever she goes."
(Letters of Charles and Mary Anne Lamb)

Posted by: maz2 at February 6, 2009 7:58 AM

"Snow brings another day of chaos (Britain still paralyzed by Global Warming)

Heavy snow has brought a fifth day of chaos to the UK, with severe weather warnings issued to much of the country."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7874115.stm

Posted by: maz2 at February 6, 2009 8:03 AM

Is global cooling now global warming?
...-

"Snow kills six Moroccan children

Six brothers and sisters have died when their house fell down following heavy snowfalls in Morocco, state media says.

The mother of the four girls and two boys reportedly survived the collapse in Azilal, in the Atlas mountains.

Eight people were killed in similar incidents on Tuesday but this is the most deadly single case.

The snow showers are predicted to continue until Saturday, especially in the Atlas Mountains, reports the AFP news agency."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7872831.stm

Posted by: maz2 at February 6, 2009 8:15 AM

"Conservative Ridings get more Federal Cash: Liberals"
Ottawa Citizen

Now thats calling the Kettle black, like that never happened under the Liberal watch. Iam sure if kate made this a topic the pro-bloggers out there would dispute that.
Here is another thought, Maybe just maybe the ridings are getting long over due project monies that were always promised but Never happened under the watch of the Natural Governing Party, Frgnn Hypocrytes.

Posted by: bryanr at February 6, 2009 8:18 AM

Mikey, a lefty, latterly of the BDS (Mikey also has a cooking show), is now moving into ODS?

>>>> "This much we do know. Obama's first year in office will nearly triple the record deficit of the last year of George Bush."

Quote is a keeper: ""I feel like a mosquito in a nudist colony,"
...-

"Spare us the ethics sermons
Ottawa Sun ^ | 2009-02-06 | Michael Harris

"I feel like a mosquito in a nudist colony," quipped Republican Senator Kit Bond after perusing all the exposed political flesh in Barack Obama's $819-billion "stimulus" package.

It is astonishing how quickly Moses is morphing into the Wizard of Oz.

It is much easier to believe in the new president when you don't actually look at the details of what he's doing behind that obscuring sheet of White House PR and that beautiful smile.

Take the president's massive infrastructure program to put Americans back to work."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2179604/posts

Posted by: maz2 at February 6, 2009 8:42 AM

"Liberals set off row with Sri Lanka

Diplomat upset by allegations of 'genocide"

A Sri Lankan diplomat responded angrily yesterday to accusations by several Liberal MPs that his government is waging a genocide.

Bandula Jayasekara, the Sri Lankan Consul General in Toronto, accused the MPs of "low politics" and misrepresenting events in the South Asian nation.

He was responding to an emergency debate in the House of Commons on Wednesday night during which five Liberal MPs used the term genocide in relation to Sri Lanka. Neither the Conservatives, NDP nor Bloc used the term."
urlm.in/bpom
...-

"Asoka Werasinghe's Letter To canadian Government"
Excerpt:

"The past Liberal government for the want of the 50,000 Tamil votes in the greater Toronto area, turned a blind eye to the extortion of funds in the millions of dollars each month by the Tamil Tigers from the Tamil Diaspora for their war chest, to buy arms to kill the innocent, and those who opposed their claim for a separate, mono-ethnic, Tamil racist state, Eelam.

They did just that in 1994 with Canadian funds, when they purchased explosives—10 tons of RDX and 50 tons of TNT -- from a Chemical Factory in the Ukraine, which they used in a truck bomb in 1997, to blast the Central Bank Building in Colombo killing 114, and maiming for life 1,400 innocent others; bombed the World Trade Centre and the Temple of Buddha’s Tooth Relic.

As you may well recall the Liberal Ministers Paul Martin and Maria Minna, and their backbenchers, Jim Karygiannis, Roy Cullen, and Bryon Wilfert attended a $60-a-plate fund raising dinner for the Tamil Tigers in May 2000. And you all were dubbed as racists by Paul Martin, when you questioned the Liberals in parliament, why they supported a Tamil Tiger terrorist’s fund raiser.

I'd also like to remind you that the present Interim Liberal House Leader, Bill Graham, during the February 4, 1998 Tamil rally at Toronto’s New City Hall, to condemn the 50th anniversary of Sri Lanka’s independence spoke out, saying that he "wholeheartedly support the national liberation struggle of the Tamil people, and in my own mind the LTTE is like the African National Congress or the Palestinian Liberation Organization."
http://www.tamilcanadian.com/page.php?cat=64&id=3839
...-

"BBC NEWS | World | South Asia | Tamil Tigers' foreign setback
14 Apr 2006 ... It also follows a decision by Canada to outlaw Tamil Tiger rebels in ... When the new Conservative-led Canadian government took office in ..."
(bbc)

Posted by: maz2 at February 6, 2009 9:07 AM

"U.S. pledge leaves Canada exposed

Amended Buy American clause fails to offer blanket exemption Ottawa seeks"
urlm.in/bpon
...-

Canadians:
"On the Obama Bus: Day 1: 2:30 p.m.

By LKirkup 01-17-2009 COMMENTS(1) The Obama Bus
Pennsylvania—Change has come.

We wind through Pennsylvania hills and stop for gas and a bathroom break."
urlm.in/bpoo

(Shrinkurl = "bpoo"! LOL)

Posted by: maz2 at February 6, 2009 9:19 AM

Great pic 'Vitruvius'. I have to admit since you and 'EBD' have done this, my music selection has been expanded.

Posted by: Merle Underwood at February 6, 2009 9:52 AM

Peter Wehner, Revising Settled Judgments

In the wake of Iraq's recent provincial elections, it is instructive to consider how many once-settled judgments now have to be significantly, and in some cases fundamentally, revised.

Perhaps most important is the one declaring that the effort to spread liberty to the Arab Middle East was a fool's errand, that the cultural soil of Iraq was too hard and forbidding for democracy to take root, and that elections would only strengthen religious radicals and deepen sectarian differences. In fact, freedom is taking root in Iraq. We are seeing the enfranchising of Sunni Arabs. And though the journey hasn't been easy, Iraq is today a legitimate, representative, and responsible democracy...

Posted by: Charles MacDonald at February 6, 2009 10:37 AM


Good Stuff Vit, but I ain't smoked a dubbie in years, LOL.
,

Posted by: Ratt at February 6, 2009 10:38 AM

A little good news out of Mexico, for a change:

Ken Ellingwood, In a Mexico state, openness is the new order in the courts

Courtroom dramas such as this sentencing are standard fare north of the U.S. border. But what's happening in the northern state of Chihuahua amounts to a revolution in Mexican justice. Far-reaching legal reforms have brought U.S.-style trials to the border state, providing a glimpse of the kind of change that experts say is needed throughout Mexico to rescue an opaque and graft-laden justice system besieged by organized crime...

The reform effort in the state, whose largest city, Ciudad Juarez, has been racked by gruesome drug killings, comes as the government of President Felipe Calderon is locked in a war with narcotics traffickers. Many analysts say success against organized crime hinges on building a new judicial system and cleaning up corrupt police agencies...

Posted by: Charles MacDonald at February 6, 2009 10:41 AM

U of Ottawa moves to fire marxist baby boomer prof who desperately deserves it:

On the first day of his fourth-year physics class, University of Ottawa professor Denis Rancourt announced to his students that he had already decided their marks: Everybody was getting an A+.

It was not his job, as he explained later, to rank their skills for future employers, or train them to be “information transfer machines,” regurgitating facts on demand. Released from the pressure to ace the test, they would become “scientists, not automatons,” he reasoned.

[at least the U grew a set. When will the hippie "me generation" baby boomers die off? Faster please.]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090206.wprof06/BNStory/National/home?cid=al_gam_mostview

Posted by: Warwick at February 6, 2009 10:53 AM

Vitruvius -- Thanks. Brought back memories for sure. I was/still am a big Floyd fan. Never saw them live, though. I have Astronomy Domine on my Ipod. I lived in NZ for a couple of years in the 80's, and there was a theater there (similar to the Ridge in Vancouver) that showed The Wall movie every Saturday night. I went at least 20 times. It would just flow over you. When Syd Barrett left, the band sure took a turn for the better. I have a double Barrett album somewhere, that he put out after his break, and it is just weird. The first album I ever bought was Alice Cooper Killer, after my brother took me to the concert in the 70's.

As far as the BCTF -- it doesn't say anything about lieing to your face, which is what I got last week regarding the standardized tests.

Posted by: gobidesert at February 6, 2009 10:54 AM

As far as the BCTF -- it doesn't say anything about lieing to your face, which is what I got last week regarding the standardized tests. ~ gobidesert

Would you be willing to elaborate a bit on this interesting (to me) subject?

Posted by: glasnost at February 6, 2009 11:12 AM

60-year-old Calgary woman gives birth to twins

http://tinyurl.com/bk3w2g

Canada says no, she has a fit, goes back to the mother country (why did she leave?), gets the procedure, comes back to the mean country and has Albertan taxpayers cough up the medical costs. LOL suckers... Is there a law that would force her to pay all these costs? Is there a law that would forbid financial, medical and educational support for these kids? Can we sue the India government for reimbursement?

Posted by: maple stump at February 6, 2009 11:42 AM

"Senator Mike Duffy's comments 'Offend' Danny Williams"
ctv.ca

Duffy is being manipulated & told what to do by the venonmous, nasty Harper conservatives
danny williams ctv.ca

*Danny did you not just tell 6MP's from NFLD vote against the budget or else?
WFT, talk about NASTY, vindictive, Venonmous time to Grow Up Canadians are sick of your crap & its about time somebody had the BALLS to speakout against your constant tirades. Good on Duff

Posted by: bryanr at February 6, 2009 11:44 AM

Fairness Doctrine
Sen. Stabenow wants hearings on radio 'accountability'; talks fairness doctrine

This morning, radio host Bill Press brought up the recent closing of liberal station Obama 1260 when speaking with Michigan Sen. Debbie Stabenow, and talked about whether there needs to be a balance to right-wing talk on the radio dial.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0209/Sen_Stabenow_wants_hearings_on_radio_accountability_talks_fairness_doctrine.html?showall

Posted by: mike at February 6, 2009 11:59 AM

Re: BCTF

The union leadership of the BC Teachers Federation have been adamantly opposed to standardized tests being given to two different elementary school grades. They were going so far as to say that their members would ignore the direct orders of the B.C. Education Minister.

Well, a Labour Board Ruling came down compelling the teachers to comply. I know, shocking that an employee should actually have to listen to their employer.

So the BCTF put it to a vote and a whopping 80% of teachers agreed to go forth with the tests.

It proves once again how incredibly radical the leadership of some unions is, often much more than the members themselves.

Posted by: Robert W. at February 6, 2009 12:45 PM

This morning I'm listening to CKNW's Edge of the Ledge segment, where Bill Good discusses current political issues (mostly B.C. ones) with journalists Vaughn Palmer and Keith Baldrey.

A big liberal from San Francisco called up and said:

1. No new bridges should be built because global warming is certain to rise water levels so much that the bridges will be useless.

2. The credit crunch is a big illusion, solely perpetrated by [horrible] Fox News.

I have no doubt that this fellow TRULY believes such things. And yet, such a moron is entitled to vote in our elections!

Posted by: Robert W. at February 6, 2009 12:49 PM

The victims of Madoff's Massive Ponzi "investment" scheme are trickling out as court proceedings proceed;

Zsa Zsa Gabor $10,000,000
Larry King

BNP Paribas - almost half a $Billion (Damarais ? Chretien ? Maurice Strong ?)

Henry Kaufman (Individual investor, former Salomon Brothers chief economist)
Salomons !! Makes sense. And, say, was that not Al Gore's bank ?

And here I thought Chain Letter types were gullible !!

Posted by: ron in kelowna at February 6, 2009 1:07 PM

The Fierce Urgency of Pork by Charles Krauthammer.

More same old hypocrisy in Washington. :-(

Posted by: Robert W. at February 6, 2009 2:28 PM

Update:

"Britain faces winter weekend from hell as fresh snowfall causes travel chaos
By Nicola Boden and Beth Hale
Last updated at 5:50 PM on 06th February 2009"
http://tinyurl.com/cep8qv
...-

Flashback:

"Snow blankets London for Global Warming debate

29 Oct 2008 ... Snow fell as the House of Commons debated Global Warming yesterday - the first October ... [...] .... The Bill finally passed its third reading by 463 votes to three.
www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/29/commons_climate_change_bill/print.html

Posted by: maz2 at February 6, 2009 2:49 PM

First album bought with my own money?

The Who - Live at Leeds

One hell of an album.

Posted by: mojo at February 6, 2009 2:58 PM

Update: "*Hope and its little sister, Fear."

""we have chosen hope over fear." Until, that is, you need fear to pass a bill.""

See: ET.

"Charles Krauthammer's excellent article in the Washington Post reacts to Obama's speech that:

"A failure to act and act now will turn crisis into catastrophe".

Krauthammer writes: "Catastrophe, mind you. So much for the president who in his inaugural address two weeks earlier declared "we have chosen hope over fear." Until, that is, you need fear to pass a bill."
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/010707.html#comments

Posted by: maz2 at February 6, 2009 3:02 PM

Bankruptcy or Inflation

Clearly GDP needs to rise or debt levels reduced to reach a sustainable path. Kemp argues "widespread bankruptcies are probably socially and politically unacceptable."

While I agree with that statement in theory, practice is another matter. I do not believe government has a realistic choice in an environment of global wage arbitrage, changing consumer attitudes towards debt, and demographics of boomer retirement.

Attempts to inflate out of this mess, cannot possibly work for three reasons.

1) The burden of consumer debt will only decrease under inflation if employment recovers, wages rapidly rise, and outsourcing of jobs to India and China stops. The odds of that happening are extremely slim.

2) Government cannot really "create" any jobs per se. It can raise taxes and shift private sector jobs creation to government jobs creation (typically a malinvestment), and it can bring production and consumption forward for those jobs that are genuinely needed (filling potholes), but once the potholes are filled, one has to ask the question, "What will we do for an encore?"

3) Even if by some miracle the economy rapidly picks up, interest rates will rise. Homeowners who now are seeing rates fall, will once again be put in jeopardy by rising rates. Furthermore, interest on the national debt will soar. The National Debt is $10.7 Trillion as of January 7, 2009. As interest on the national debt rises, so will taxes have to rise to cover it. In Fiscal Year 2008, the U. S. Government spent $412 Billion of your money on interest payments to the holders of the National Debt.

In short, there is no free lunch of inflating consumer debt away. Attempts to do so will only create bigger problems elsewhere.

Expect to see a long-term period of extremely slow growth with the economy slipping into and out of deflation and recessions for years, to come. This is the path of Japan, not the path of the Weimar Republic.

Posted by: xiat at February 6, 2009 3:38 PM

The list of those taken by Madoff's Ponzi Scheme gets more interesting by the day.

[ His connections to Mr. Madoff surfaced in a court filing yesterday in New York that revealed the scope of Mr. Madoff's client base in the United States and Canada. The Canadians ranged from a Montreal investment firm connected to a branch of the Bronfman family, to a Marxist scholar at Dalhousie University who once played basketball with radical socialist Abbie Hoffman, to a member of the Pencer family of soft-drink fame.]

[ .. ]

[ Two other names were more puzzling – Herb and Ruth Gamberg, a pair of modest, left-leaning professors who came to Halifax in the 1960s and taught at Dalhousie University before they retired.

Mr. Gamberg, 75, is regarded as one of the world's leading Marxist scholars, according to a documentary about his life under development by Halifax director Walter Forsyth. He grew up in Worcester, Mass., and on his trips home from Brandeis University he would play pickup basketball with his younger friend, Abbie Hoffman, the radical social activist who comprised part of the Chicago Seven. After coming to Canada, he helped establish the Foundation Year Program at King's College, and became one of the early members of Dalhousie's sociology department, writing on everything from prison reform to socialism to the history of Nova Scotia's political left.

Although they are retired, the Gambergs remain politically energized. They added their names to a petition nominating folk singer Pete Seeger for a Nobel Peace Prize, and were among a group of signatories protesting Barrick Gold's Pascua Lama mining project in Chile.] G & M

http://business.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090206.wrmadoffcanada06/BNStory/Business/home

Posted by: ron in kelowna at February 6, 2009 3:46 PM

It is going to cost the Canadian government a lot of money to rent 125 cruise ships to evacuate these Canadians of convenience.

Something is wrong when an estimated 250,000 "Canadians" are living in the middle of a civil war. Canada's immigration and citizenship policies need a major overhaul.

Posted by: mecheng at February 6, 2009 4:52 PM

Geez I feel like an idiot...after staring at the article for 10 minutes I finally figured out the author was talking about Tamil Canadians living in Canada. (At least I hope that is what they are referring to, long week brain is tired....)

Still....check out the article, some pretty strong statements being made by the Sri Lankan consul general.

Posted by: mecheng at February 6, 2009 5:02 PM

I hesitate to bring up Nazi hunters, what with our own self-styled crusaders doing their part, but this is a mesmerizing documentary that someone has managed to post on youtube. It's called Hotel Terminus: The Life and Times of Klaus Barbi, and it justifiably won the best doumentary oscar in 1988.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=kafkazepam&view=videos

If you can spare about 4hrs. of viewing time it is well worth it!

Posted by: MRV at February 6, 2009 6:19 PM

I hesitate to bring up Nazi hunters, what with our own self-styled crusaders doing their part, but this is a mesmerizing documentary that someone has managed to post on youtube. It's called Hotel Terminus: The Life and Times of Klaus Barbi, and it justifiably won the best documentary oscar in 1988.

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=kafkazepam&view=videos

If you can spare about 4hrs. of viewing time it is well worth it!

Posted by: MRV at February 6, 2009 6:19 PM

Well guess which groundhog, er weasel, decided to stick his head out?

Mo Strong!

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/02/05/maurice-strong-let-china-buy-detroit.aspx

Someone grab a shovel quick and whack this weasel upside the head!

Posted by: MRV at February 6, 2009 6:25 PM

Ken Dryden: Reason #358 that I could never be a Liberal
For Liberals, Ken Dryden is something like the Pope. He is keeper of the faith, defender of the dogma, spreader of "The Word". For me, Ken Dryden is a guy who takes Jedi philosophy way too seriously and, consequently, his every utterance gives my goosebump's creeps the willies. Like this latest column on climate change.

He calls climate change "a forever issue". He means: "don't do as I say, and we are all forever screwed." He doesn't mean: "climate change is forever and human civilization must adapt to changing climates. Forever." The latter statement is true. The former is bullshit. The latter statement is still decades away from penetrating Liberal skulls. And that has me, um, worried.

But there's plenty more Drydenisms in that column that deserve some highlighting:

"the European Union...in many ways, symbolize the world in microcosm"

In a snarky mood and with complete disregard for Godwin's law, I would point out that Nazis had a similar view of things.... but seriously, how does someone say a bunch of white, Christian, industrialized, absolutely or relatively rich countries serve up a microcosm of the world? I'm a bloody theo-neo-brio-geo-con and even I can see the absurdity of this statement!

"When Al Gore, speaking to the plenary, talked of meeting with Mr. Obama a few days earlier, there was a hush, then great applause. And into the microphones, first with slight embarrassment, then not, delegates kept repeating their new (borrowed) mantra: "Yes, we can.""

What grown adult could admit to being a participant in such a scene. I would be curling into a corner from embarassment. Even if Stephen Harper himself started chanting "Yes we can!", I would be unable to join in."
http://chuckercanuck.blogspot.com/

Posted by: maz2 at February 6, 2009 6:32 PM

Ezra Levant has a real eye opener here.

Posted by: Zeppo at February 6, 2009 7:35 PM

maple stump -- get a grip. While the 60 year old woman having children is highly unusual, it is not as though her children represent any sort of inconvenience to society. They are just two kids. The story was that she and her husband had tried to have children for many years and were not successful -- so, I say she's entitled. She has a husband and a big extended family. My guess is that these children will be far less a burden then is frequently the case with teen pregnancies.

Posted by: LindaL at February 7, 2009 12:13 AM

Glasnost -- sorry, been busy with kids sports. I had my son's grade 4 teacher tell me the test wasted valuable class room time, and that it stressed out the kids. I told my son that he was going to get a test that he did not have to do anything for, no studying, nothing. And it did not count for anything. He said "no studying?" "yup", I said. He just smiled. Yeah, stressed for sure. And valuable class time. Whatever. Givin the amount of art that comes home, I think they can spare a few hours to do this test.

Posted by: gobidesert at February 8, 2009 2:29 PM
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