She must be including "undocumented" workers.

500 million?

That's a lot of illegal immigration!

500 million Americans?

What's worse, the fact that she's dumb or the fact that she got elected by a populace that knows she's dumb?

And Richard asks the single most pertinent question of the day.

Typical left wing math.

That woman is a total creep!

That woman scares the crap out of me. Why the GOP doesn't target her seat and get her out baffles me.

Five hundred million Americans losing their jobs will certainly be a new record.

Got to cut her some slack. I'm sure Nancy now considers Canada and Mexico as part of America when she tallies up the numbers.

Madam Speaker of the House: what an enormously stupid ______ !!!

Why the GOP doesn't target her seat and get her out baffles me.

I agree that she doesn't belong in the House of Representatives, or in any job more challenging than, oh, selling cookies, but her district consists largely, perhaps entirely, of San Francisco. There is about as much chance of a Republican winning a seat representing San Francisco is there is of my being the quarterback for next year's Super Bowl winner.

Now see here, the number uttered also includes the jobs lost because of global warming, the lay-offs from election campaigns as well as the recession fall-outs, therefore this 500 million number must be right. Now we know who helps Taliban Jack bin Laydon with his math wizardry.

Blackroc: The Congresswoman holds one of the most socialist districts in the U.S. - California's 8th district. The 8th district takes in most of San Francisco. In the last election (2008 congressional) she won by over a 4-1 margin to even her closest competitor. BTW her closest competitor was left of her - a woman we all know so well - Cindy Sheehan.

Times 13 months in a year

Wow, if that pork package isn't passed by President's Day, every person on the planet will be out of work. I knew the US was powerful, I just didn't think it was that powerful.

If Bush had said this , the MSM would be all over him like a fat boy on a twinkie.

it would be on Leno or Letterman until next fall.

She's an amateur . . don't we have 500 million crosses burning on the lawns of Prince George right now ?

Yep. No doubt about it. She's the scariest Witch of the West. Scarier than Hillary Clitoris, who isn't dumb.

Pelosi's also the idiot who said, on Meet the Press:

"I believe in natural gas as a clean, cheap alternative to fossil fuels."

And times each of the 57 states.

Well considering this brilliant genius wanted to include birth control and condoms in the so called "stimulus package" who would be surprised.

It appears Ms. Pelosi's idea of "stimulus package" is a $50 dollar hooker on the wrong side of the railway tracks. She has demonstrated herself to be such a partisan hack why would anyone listen.

What she needs to do is stimulate her brain. Might I suggest electro-shock therapy to initiate glucose uptake to the neural pathways?

http://www.acnp.org/g4/gn401000064/CH064.HTML
Brain Energy Metabolism

Maybe she had a hypoglycemia event.

In any case, this was almost as good as her foreign policy adventure to Syria, usurping the role of the Secretary of State. This lady doesn't even know her own role in the functioning parts of the US body politic and she is ostensibly the Speaker of the House.

Richard Evans comment is perilously close to the truth.

Man 500 million Americans lose their jobs every month, must have been a baby boom like no other that seems to have escaped the notice of the registrar of births. Moreover, they probably weren't using birth control. Those Americans aren't working because they are too busy making whoopie!

Gee, I gather that Demographic Winter got cancelled just like "Glow Ball Warming".

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

Frankenstein Battalion
2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von
Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)
Knecht Rupprecht Division
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Sounds like the work of The Lancet!

"Excuse me, did you say 500 MILLION?"

"No! You missheard me!"

"I thought you said 500 million.."

"I didn''t say 500 million. No way I would say 500 million. You are trying to put words in my mouth! What ARE you, a left leaning COMMIE??? Don't be stupid!! We DON'T have 500 million people in America....Of course we soon WILL have if we keep letting in all those immigrants! I say send all those illegals to CANADA!!! Now, where were we..Oh, yea, 300 million Americans are losing their jobs every day..."

wonder how many of the reporters knew she shanked the number ?

Pelosi should get together with Ann Coulter and see who can out stupid the other.

Remember it was Coulter who said America should invade Muslim countries, kill all their leaders then convert them to Christianity.

Maybe a UFC sanctioned bout billed as Moonbat2Dingbat

Airtight and soundproof box.

Fred, ZERO. Not a one of them is smart enough to have noticed. You hit the reason squarely on the head when you used the word "reporter".

Remember it was Coulter who said America should invade Muslim countries, kill all their leaders then convert them to Christianity.

And bless her for saying so.

Ann Coulter - brilliant
Nancy Pelosi - stupid

And that is a provable fact.

I guess the extra two hundred million live in the other seven of the fifty seven states Obama was talking about.
Or maybe she was just drunk. Actually I am glad that the Dems won the election. The Obama regime will certainly be good for a lot of laughs for the next four years.

She is getting her millions billions and trillions mixed up, I mean she is dealing with so many zero's in her job now. how is a lady to keep it all straight.

Remember Barbie said, math is hard.

"Remember it was Coulter who said America should invade Muslim countries, kill all their leaders then convert them to Christianity."

And it only took 8 years for George Bush to get two of those objectives completed....

I used to think that only Canada had idiot females in high government positions: Hedy Fry, Sheila Copps, etc.

Guess I was wrong. Stands astride them all.

mhb23re

Really silly little gaffes like this should be meaningless, but, when you considered the uproar over "mis-under-estimated" and fool me, blah,blah,blah, it is fair game on Obama's 57 states and Pelosi's 500 million Americans.
Get used to it left wingers, because we are only 2 weeks into a 4 year term and Obama's team has already out gaffed Bush.

mhb - dont forget Barbara Hall (wanted to introduce Sharia law), Elizabeth May (marched with the rallies in support of hezbollah a few years ago) and Chow (wanted to bring a known terrorist from the US to give a lecture in an university). Must be many more, but these came to mind in a flash.

It's not a silly gaffe. It's indication that she doesn't have the figures at hand that are fundamental to her argument. That's laziness, stupidity and more.

The scary aspect, that just occurred to me, is that this air-head is very high on the list of succession in the case that POTUS becomes incapacitated......

Most of them live in the seven extra dimensional states that Obama referred to in his campaign. These people are only visible to ACORN and the only trace of them is dimensional leakage onto ballots. Obama let slip that one of these extra dimensional states was "New Pennsylvania." Probably a trillion people at least live there judging by Pelosi's math.

We elected a hottie for president. We should have just appointed him "National Gigolo" and taken the POTUS job more seriously, but this is America, we are too big to fail.

i knew it would eventually happen....

she's had so many face lifts i reckon she's finally talking out her ass....

"Pelosi should get together with Ann Coulter and see who can out stupid the other."

Yeah, except the intelligent and charming Ms. Coulter is a writer, not an elected official - third in line? - and consequently her remarks are not as significant as your gal pelosi.

The funny part is that the leftie shows that ran up huge numbers ridiculing the POTUS have nothing now. The natural audience for that kind of stuff is naturally going to be drawn to right leaning shows where making fun of the president is still allowed. Obama is the perfect object of ridicule. Narcissistic, self important, and has a group of followers who are utterly loyal and will defend his every action with transparently laughable arguments.

What a tool.

She must mean only 50,000,000 a month.

now the inmates are truly in charge of the asylum....

She said the exact same thing on Fox News Sunday last week, and Chris Wallace was kind enough to correct her dumb ass.

Even if you put aside the 500 mil, nothing she says makes any kind of sense anyway...

Remember it was Coulter who said America should invade Muslim countries, kill all their leaders then convert them to Christianity.

And bless her for saying so.

Ann Coulter - brilliant
Nancy Pelosi - stupid

And that is a provable fact.
Posted by: John at February 4, 2009 11:57 AM

She also declared that the U.S. needed to annex Canada for our oil...support that too do ya? Coulter is a bigger tool than Pelosi merely because she's halfway competent and people actually listen to her (sort of).

Maybe we should be a little kinder about Americans who don't know anything about Canada. When prominent leftard Americans don't know anything about the *U.S.* why should they know anything about anywhere else?

Did't the Pelosi go to the Middle East two or three years ago to bring peace there?

Don't forget, that figure includes all of the dead out of work Americans who registered and voted for O during the last election.

Sounds like she meant to say 500 THOUSAND, which is a pretty accurate figure for the last two months.

It's good to know there are so many perfect people here who have never made an honest mistake.

I'm willing to cut here some slack on this one, just like I'm willing to let some spelling mistakes go by.

Sounds like she meant to say 500 THOUSAND, which is a pretty accurate figure for the last two months.

It's good to know there are so many perfect people here who have never made an honest mistake.

I'm willing to cut here some slack on this one, just like I'm willing to let some spelling mistakes go by.
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That's not the point. The point IS, that when conservatives mis-speak they are ridiculed endlessly and called 'morons', but when liberals say such things as "57 states" they are immediately exonerated and their foulups are designated as 'honest errors' by those same 'moron-callers'.

It's the hypocrisy that irritates us; that and the apparent inability of the left to even RECOGNIZE their own hypocrisy.

Nemo:

So the solution is to lower yourself to the left's level?

Drugs?

My goodness. She's been infected by the Bush Virus!

She should get NO slack at all on this mistake. In her position, at this time, with what is going on, any indication at all that she's having brain farts when dealing with large numbers is shocking and outrageous. What paper is she signing? Does she clearly understand the figures she's reading before she votes or executes?

abcd:

So, you wouldn't mind the same standard of perfection being placed on you?

We'll all be watching.

So the solution is to lower yourself to the left's level?
Posted by: set you free
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If someone speaks but one language, then that is the language that must be used when talking to them.

'set you free....'

i dunno...when you get on your bike i always feel a thrill go up my leg...

can we meet for coffee some day ?

Nemo2:

Thank you for affirming your inability to rise above the slime of the left's rhetoric.

john:

Keep your perverse sexual fantasies to yourself.

Nemo2:

Thank you for affirming your inability to rise above the slime of the left's rhetoric.

Posted by: set you free
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When I converse with humans I use language, when I call my dog I whistle......there's a difference.

set you free

No, we want the same level of perfection applied to conservatives as the media applies to liberals.

"o, you wouldn't mind the same standard of perfection being placed on you?"

Last I checked abcd was an anonymous blog commenter and Pelosi was making decisions that Americans will have to live with for a generation. Decisions about numbers that she clearly doesn't comprehend. I couldn't make that mistake without instantly correcting it. Anymore than I could say "It's good to be in New Pennsylvania" like Obama did. This bill is a looting of the treasury. I don't even think that Nancy understands that. She just knows that the financial crisis upped her credit card limit and she is going to spend it.

"Coulter who said America should invade Muslim countries, kill all their leaders then convert them to Christianity."

She said this a couple of days after her very good friend and fellow right of center talking head Lisa Olsen was killed by self professed Muslim Jihadis. Lisa was on the plane that hit the Pentagon. No slack for the grieving among the Left. Any weapon at hand to attack an enemy. Guess what lefties? You are in charge now and we are going to point out every dirty deal that Barry "What's this I'm signing again Craig" Obama makes.

Lefties really thought that their pillaging hoards would be greeted with flowers by the red state villagers on their way to loot the treasury.

500 million. Darn I'm out of work as of right now.

Hey can you guys used a good Fire Medic up north? (-:

She misspoke. Not the first, not the last time.

She was elected in arguably the most left-wing district in the country and she will be able to hold it for as long as she chooses. The dems in the house elected her to be their leader - they must pay a political price for it. If she isn't the worst and dumbest house leader ever - and there have been some doozies - she's in the top three.

And she is two heartbeats away from becoming the POTUS...

The real interesting thing would be to see a one hour interview with Pelosi - one that would really probe her level of knowledge on a variety of subjects. Her previous response to the "birth control stimulus package" question was basically incoherent.

A prolonged interview would doubtless lay bare the fact that she has a very poor grasp on important fundamentals.

These economic times call for heavy lifters; really serious people with insight and brains - Frank, Reid, Pelosi - ouch, and shudder.

SYF - so you would be as forgiving if Ms Palin had made such a dumb, stupid, sophomoric mistake?

You can actually see Russia from Alaska, but you can't even have 100 million unemployed in the Estados Unidos.

That's really not that funny, actually. There are slips of the tongue and then there's complete ignorance. I'm sure there are better examples you can dig up, though.

jlc:

If you check your facts, I believe it was Tina Fey who said ‘I can see Russia from my front porch.'

What was your point?

My goodness. She's been infected by the Bush Virus!

Posted by: Ted at 2:37 PM

================================================

not quite teddy

Bush is inflicted by the same malady as Steven Hawkings

300 million Americans and she's in the top hundred?
Very sad...

Ah yes Pelosi, So much power, so little brains.

I read once that she had two clues, one got lost, the other went looking for it and neither have been seen in the last 40 years.

BTW just how does the most powerful nation on earth keep electing morons?

SYF - Governor Palin said that a person can see Russia from some places in Alaska. Pelosi has been a babbling idiot for over two years now, running the 'show' in the House of Congress, in the USA. President Bush used his power as President to keep the USA from moral and financial collapse for 2 years - he is gone now... Governor Palin has a 75% approval rating, in Alaska; Nancy and her clowns about 9%, in the USA. All of the American people are not stupid!

Of all the useless political idiots to defend...
Wasn't it her who donned the granny 'maple leaf stenciled' scarf over her hair on a ME trip a few years back?
She, a free woman, acts submissive when expected to, what a pathetically weak and yielding stance to display. Ah how accommodating she is - for terrorists and tyrants.
Never saw Rice don a scarf like that while conducing political appointments in the ME.

Just an out of touch snobbish wench, with way too much power.

To assess Pelosi's remarks—as many have done here, spot on—the population of the USA is, in round figures, 304 million.

set you free, I find your holier than thou comments, on more than one thread, both irritating and distasteful. Jesus said, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's". This does not mean giving a saccharine pass to political idiots.

IMO, your Pollyanna-like, shoot-the-messenger routine is becoming quite tiresome and—given the politicians you seem willing to defend, at the expense of their legitimate critics—altogether unmerited.

This is strike 3!!!

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/02/another-obama-o.html

A little off topic, but it is another example of the hypocrisy on the left. If a conservative had 3 nominations shot down over tax evasion the democrats would be screaming bloody murder, and they would be right!

"don't we have 500 million crosses burning on the lawns of Prince George right now ?"

Yes we do, Fred, that's why there are no trees left up here.

Just another loony tune in an era of Flakes. Move on. Nothing to see hear.

lppkout:

I find your comments enlightening ... about how imperfect humanity is and how some humans delude themselves into believing that an ability to see weakness in others makes them feel superior.

It's a phenomenon that comes out quite often when people watch game shows.

The truth is, finding amusement in other peoples' mistakes seems to me a sign of immaturity.

Not only that, it's at an intellectual level mainly exhibited by proponents of left wing politics.

Conservatives have to learn to rise above the left-wing sliming, otherwise they themselves become slimy.

Any problems with that?

Jema:

Sarah Palin is correct. You can see Russia from some parts of America.

And Nancy Pelosi is a congressional leader, whose approval rating is somewhere around 14%.

That would be congress's approval rating.

Bush, on the other hand, left office with an approval rating around 27%.

I'm quite aware of the issues.

Would it be too much to ask that, as the best conservative site in North America, that points be made in a civil manner?

With the honour comes some responsibility.

Where am I wrong?

"Conservatives have to learn to rise above the left-wing sliming, otherwise they themselves become slimy."

Sure. We have seen what eight years of non stop sliming gets you. The WH and both houses of Congress. Wouldn't want that. Oh no.

"Conservatives have to learn to rise above the left-wing sliming, otherwise they themselves become slimy.

Any problems with that?"

With all due respect SYF, your approach of "if you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all", doesn't work. Ask George Bush. If you let the left slander you on a continual basis without a responce, the general public starts to believe in the innuendos, IMO.

multirec:

Must have missed the part where it was suggested there should be no response to the sliming.

All I'm suggesting is the response must be on a more dignified and mature level than to slime back.

Otherwise, it's schoolyard taunting.

You are capable of better. We all are.

Posted by: canadian at February 4, 2009 12:41 PM

How could neglect that nauseating troika? Thanks for covering my omission!

Posted by: set you free at February 4, 2009 2:52 PM

I'm sure ABCD would expect that if (s)he attained the office of PM or senior cabinet minister; then that'd be par for the course, and even worse assuming ABCD was Conservative. Pelosi - ardent lefist that she is - has enjoyed a media free ride that doesn't focus on her gaffes or outright moronic statements (you don't hear much anymore about her recent theory that fewer births is better for the economy), and is expected to understand and communicate the details.

See how it works?

mhb23re

set you free, I think I made myself quite clear. We're not talking day to day behaviour here. Of course, in that regard, we all fall short, and, as far as we reasonably can, should deal charitably with one another in our personal relations. However, to translate that dispensation to politicians, as politicians, is unreasonable.

Why? Politicians are different. They are public figures, who live off the rest of us and benefit from all kinds of perqs: fair enough. However, our politicians are accountable to the rest of us. When they and/or their parties perpetrate skulduggery and/or benefit from both that and the gross double standards of the MSM and other elites, there’s no reason why the rest of us shouldn’t push back—and hard.

How do you think we should be responding to the depredations of Iggy and Pelosi here? Should we be letting them off the hook, somehow? (The discrimination of low expectations?)

I love Kate, Mark Steyn, Ezra Levant, and others who, politically, kick butt, big time.

lookout:

I agree we should all push for smaller governments, those who purport to know how to spend our money better than we know how to spend our money.

I find the use of the word depredations quite interesting in the sense that language often offers clues to the inner workings of a human being.

I'm assuming you understand the dictionary meaning of the word, which is ‘to plunder.'

So, I would conclude that some sense of your discontent is caused by somebody else's plunder. That type of attitude, when attributed to left-wing politics, is often referred to as ‘victim mentality.'

Perhaps you could explain how Nancy Pelosi committed an act of plunder with her use of ONE incorrect word.

Or, how Iggy plundered anybody but the Liberal Party by choosing not to donate.

Very perplexing.

By all means, set you free, be pedantic and literal.

You like to give advice. So here's some: please knock it off.

Cheers.

P.S. I'm still interested in your defence of Iggy and Pelosi, who have both plundered the trust of the electorates in their respective countries. I repeat myself, "How do you think we should be responding to the depredations of Iggy and Pelosi here? Should we be letting them off the hook, somehow? (The discrimination of low expectations?)"

lookout:

How has Iggy plundered the trust of the Canadian electorate?

Near as I know, he's never even been a cabinet minister.

It's important to back up your statements with facts.

Want to keep digging?

Nancy Pelosi's botoxed face, eyes bulging, surrounded by her helmet of hair designed to make her appear 30 years younger, gives me the creeps, too.

What planet is she from anyway? I keep waiting for her (Wo)/Men in Black metamorphosis. What is she, really?

Pelosi and Coulter, there is a big difference in position and intent. Ann Coulter can and does say things to bring about reaction and debate. She is bright but sometimes over the top. Pelosi on the otherhand, is a powerful legislator who knows nothing about what she is saying AND has the power to legislate some really stupid ideas.

That my dear leftoids is a huge difference. And that, along with fools like Reed, Frank and the other collection of simpletons can bring the US down to a third world country with the help of the empty suit in the white house.

Iggy hasn't earned anything in Canada. He's a poseur and opportunist. That's why he's plundered my trust--and that of many other Canadians.

lookout:

I've never heard Iggy say a bad thing about you.

set you free: "Near as I know, he's never even been a cabinet minister."

Yeah, and that's the problem: from no position to top dog ... what gives?

By not giving a red cent to his party, what does this say about Iggy's commitment? I'd say, not much. You put your money where your mouth is, no?

No. Iggy doesn't even do that. Trust him as the leader of anything, let alone Canada?

I. DON'T. THINK. SO.

Ahem (clears throat). I don't wish to be a pest, folks, but I happen to know that Set You Free goes back some time in the history of these virtual parts; so it is on that basis I'd like you to reconsider what his overall argument has been here (in this thread, and at SDA lately): he has, generally speaking, not been disagreeing with what you are saying, he is saddened by the way you are saying it. I agree with him.

Harder to swallow.

And why should anyone refrain from saying so?

So, Vitruvius, you concur, it seems, with syf's sanctimonious put-downs of all kinds of others who also "[go] back some time in the history of these virtual parts".

syf has stepped out of the ring to take on the role of self-appointed, judgemental scold on this thread—not in opposition to the politicians being censured, but to SDA regulars and others who agree with the censure—and you weigh in with approval of the scold. That's your right, but I find your partisanship quite astonishing and most disappointing.

If those of us at this thread, who have had some harsh words for self-serving politicians, have caused syf such angst, I guess he must be constantly “saddened” by the pithy way in which Kate regularly expresses her opinions.

No one forces syf to read the “unpleasant” comments of the faithful here—we’re not talking trolls. So, my question is, why does such a sensitive, irenic soul continue to hang around?

(As I’ve said before, “Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s”. syf seems to be confused: this is a political blog, not a Sunday School picnic. I thought, Vitruvius, that you might have supported this thesis: I’m truly gobsmacked by your comments to the contrary.)

See what I mean?

So, reasonable debate is not OK here?

What's going on here?

Vit:

Absolutely bang-on analysis of my position today.

It may be just be my quirk, but I believe there are three levels of discourse ... about things, about people and about ideas.

Sadly, much of the tone here lately has fallen tragically short of intelligent discourse of ideas and has degenerated into gossip, where it becomes important to point out and laugh at flaws in others (people level) to satisfy some perverted sense of self-importance.

That level of discourse is shameful to conservative tradition, at least as I understand it.

Although it is common to name-call and taunt on left-wing sites, some here have tragically turned into what they claim to hate.

Sure reasonable debate is ok here, Lookout, unless and except of course when you would rather claim to know of that to which I would in your opinion presumably concur. On the other hand, if you care: ask me for clarification of my now, as you characterize it, apparently seemingly contrarian comment.

Don't yell at me, don't presume to speak for me: I've got better things to do. Which was my point about a particular matter of the signal to noise ratio in blog comments that I think SYF has been alluding to (though I've been wrong before, and as you noted Lookout, it's a tricky matter to pull off at best).

Anyway, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it, remember: I come here to think, not to argue.

And of course, unreasonable debate is ok here too: up to a point ;-)

You may find this essay & some of the comments there, interesting, SYF:

http://www.opendemocracy.net/article/the-politics-of-me-me-me

set you free....

your tight assed pompous 'tude is offensively sad making...how dare you get in my face slagging the PMSH and yet defending the sorriest bunch of malfeasing crooked fiduciarily incompetent felons the country has endured for 100 years...

as i say, you sadden me...to think this great Dominion can create a metrosexual of your triste inducing calibre sends a thrill DOWN my leg.

so like how about that coffee i mentioned earlier today ?

my treat...

Brilliant satire John, and so subtle, too.

john:

Could you point out where I've slagged PMSH?

Where were felons for the last 100 years defended?

Those types of delusional ramblings are what bring down the quality of discourse on this blog.

I mean, do you actually believe the type of garbage you're writing?

hey, john, I hear you!

Vitruvius, I have neither yelled at nor presumed to speak for you. But, if you wish—you certainly don't need my imprimatur—please feel free to clarify.

But, the facts show that set you free (syf) has set up a most distasteful situation here today, apparently, seconded by you.

While presuming to set the standard for the rest of us, deficient mortals, “Would it be too much to ask that, as the best conservative site in North America, that points be made in a civil manner?”, syf has had the audacity to lecture and hector ELEVEN—I counted—mainly regular posters, who made their points in—guess what?—a “civil manner”? (Let’s have some concrete examples of uncivil discourse.)

All the while, syf made personal comments about these people and presumed to tell them that they were to comport themselves in a more respectful manner: the huge irony is that while syf was busy belittling and bossing everyone around, he, himself, was displaying a huge lack of charity and respect.

This kind of behaviour reminds me of the Bible verses, “Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?” (Matthew 7:3) and “[Jesus] said to them, "Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone . . . " (John 8:7)

Considering that syf seemed to be out of sorts with just about everyone here today, as well as tilting at SDA philosophical windmills*, your weighing in as you did seemed to uphold a very unpleasant double standard.

* This is from The Sheaf article—another thread here:

“But McMillan says a little goading never hurt anybody and unlike the CBC, nobody is forced to pay for it and can leave her site and never come back.

“‘It’s not much fun if you’re not provoking people,” she said. “If they’re offended, they can leave. But you’re supposed to have fun.’”

set you free to john, "Those types of delusional ramblings are what bring down the quality of discourse on this blog.

"I mean, do you actually believe the type of garbage you're writing?"

Now, isn't that civil discourse?

And syf dares to lecture the rest of us on the finer points of civility . . .

Arrrggghh! You took the bloody bait, SYF. I am so disappointed. Fortunately, I have beer with which to stave off my disappointment. For as you point out, Lookout, Kate did say: “It’s not much fun if you’re not provoking people [...] If they’re offended, they can leave. But you’re supposed to have fun.” I'm certainly havin' fun, and I'm certainly not offended, so I might as well stay, eh what? Besides, I've got a show to do here tomorrow night, honey ;-)

Well, I'm having fun too, so that makes two of us . . .

lookout:

Mathew 7:3 would be my point exactly.

And, so would John 8:7.

I'm so glad that you have finally understood that Nancy Pelosi may have made a speck of dust of a mistake when she said million instead of thousand.

And that it's Iggy's business how he spends or doesn't spend his money.

You do understand that those Bible verses tell us to work on our own imperfections instead of pointing out others' imperfections. Don't you?

You should, since your sense of superiority based on recognizing other people's perceived shortfalls have deluded you into believing you're a better person.

BTW, ask your minister about using Bible verses as weapons, particularly when it seems they do not apply to you.

Ah, well, that's not my field. Good night.

set you free...

i THINK i understand your argument...attacking PMSH is cool...but attacking Pelosi ain't cool..

is that about it ?

golly...when i accept that as the benchmark of political thought it's so easy to digest....but perhaps when we have our coffee we could expand on that belief and compare notes on say PMSH and Crouton's legislative records....'legacies' if you will........then we could hopefully address Pelosi and the big O's record to date.

so what kind of hole do you like in your do-nuts...?

Back to basics, and I risk wasting my breath, but two points about Nancy for the literal minded: her gaffe is just a symptom of her vast incompetence (scary in a woman with so much power), and, where left and right politicians are concerned, the MSM’s huge double standard (Nancy versus Sarah) is troubling, to say the least.

I trust I’ve civilly made my points clear. (But it seems that syf isn’t just concerned about tone: he seems to be actively disputing arguments as well: no problem, except that the suggestion has been that it’s just the WAY people say things here, not what they say, that bothers him. The facts show otherwise.)

I suggest that syf might feel happier as a member of a Canadian Human Rights Commission: the folks there are experts at judging others—and they get to do it all day, every day, and get paid for it too.

For all our sakes, I hope syf has a better day today.

syf's admonitions not to stoop to the same level as the 'opposition' cause me to recall the punchline of an old joke, wherein a farmer strikes a mule between the eyes with a 2x4: "First, you have to get his attention".

If we do not hammer them constantly when their side screws up they will consider liberal gaffes to be understandable and acceptable, while continuing to ridicule, with impunity, corresponding slips on the part of the right.

As I noted before, I whistle my dog, but if he stops barking and begins to talk, I'll converse with him.

The American people have made a very huge mistake that they will never recover from and if you dont belive me give it 3 more years.People are about to see things that they never have imagined in their lives and it is not GOOD! The dems should not be in the position of power at this time,they are liers and always have been.They will rape the public and try to blame it on Bush.Every mistake they make will be blamed on the Bush admin untill the economy is tanked.That is the way the left has always done buissness and that is how they have allways done it.