A bit hard to see at first, but the plane enters the frame from the left at about 3:31:00.

About 30 seconds later people are already outside standing on the wing. Remarkable.

Thank goodness it didn't crash land in New Orleans.

"Scully's" the pilot I always pray for when I'm flying. I usually pray for the maintenance crew, too, that they catch every little crack and every little dysfunction as they're going through their check list.

Now, I'll have to pray for the birds -- that's St. Francis of Assisi's department, so next time I fly, I'll be sure to engage his help.

As far as Canada geese go, however, how about an extermination program? Frankly, I see no good reason to have them around. They're pretty in flight -- but lethal too. PETA would disagree, but when you think that over 150 PEOPLE could be dead, or a lot more if the pilot had crashed over Manhattan, what's a few roast geese?

Listened to a live news conference on radio yesterday.

After a question on the "environmental impact" of the crash, followed by one asking if pets were aboard, I waited for a reporter to ask the medical status of the goose.

That's obviously not a real plane, because planes have wings and they break apart when they hit the water. Do you see any wings in that video? And what's the deal with people standing on water like that? Computer generated, obviously.

And how could the so-called "rescue" happen so fast? They just happened to have boats standing by ready to collect all these so-called "passengers"? This has all been staged by the Jews and the Bush administration to distract attention from the Gaza war, financial meltdown and the Obama inauguration. Don't believe any of it.

Kate, the link to "Secrets of Vancouver" is broken.

But it does link to a fine site......LOL

An amazing bit of airplane driving, but let's not forget the flight crew. From the time the 320 stopped to people standing on the wing was about 25 seconds. Less than three minutes after that the first person was being hauled aboard the ferry.

BZ all around, crew, passengers and ferry staff!!

Observable miracle in Gotham City.

According to some passenger interviews, prayers were being said by passengers in peril.

Makes one wonder if there were any non-believers on board, and if so, will they ever reconsider their non-belief position.

8:51.

Is that a Concord in the background?

No more planes will crash. No more geese will die.

Obama's magic pixie dust will cure all.

Joe Molnar: "According to some passenger interviews, prayers were being said by passengers in peril."

My biggest beef about the movie "Speed" was not just that it wasn't very good, as action movies go, it was that the black ladies on the runaway bus weren't praying. That's what they would have been doing -- noisily and flamboyantly too.

Prayer? Give it a rest.

It was the skill of the Captain and his co-pilot and cabin crew together with the maintenace crews on the ground and designers and line workers at Airbus that got those 155 people onto the ferrys.

I'm assuming that 'Kevin Jaeger' is being highly sarcastic? Or is he a Radical Left conspiracy theorist on serious need of meds??? I'm voting for the former.

Clearly the crew deserves much credit. But so do the captains & crew of the boats. They took the initiative without waiting for the government to do something. Bravo, Bravo, Bravo!!!

As for PETA, watch for them to be screaming if there's even any hint at an extermination or relocation program. It'll prove what I've long thought: That radical leftists care more about animals than they do about human beings. And even then, they don't really care about the individual animals; they're merely a device in their crusade.

It also says something for the strength of the plane. It must be a very well designed plane.

I remember when the Air Canada flight had to set down in Gimli Manitoba, they said the 767 was the first commercial jet capable of a glide landing. Even though the ground crew screwed up, they had the good fortune of screwing up on the right plane.

Pets on board? Events like this have a way of putting the idea of pets into proper perspective.

This was a controlled crash , Bush planted explosives in the engines just to distract the Mdeia from iraq and justify going into Afghanistan with more troops.
Where's Alex Jones to expose this fraud and CGI video , how did someone know it was going to crash and had the video running to catch it.
Everyone know that aluminum doesn't float , where are the engines?,nobody caried luggage ?

The truth is out there , www.Hudsonplanetruth.org has the answers.

I have a feeling homeland security has something to do with the number of small police boats and rescue teams available. As far as waiting, no captain of any vessel would not be there if needed.

I'm with Kevin Jaeger on this one(and he IS being very sarcastic!)

This is right up there with the faked moon landings, Roswell aliens, and the sinking of the Titanic!

The pilot deserves a medal from the new, or old,President. In this day when "hero" has been diluted to mean so little, this gentleman stands out as a REAL hero.

Obviously this miracle is due to a period of grace before The Imaculation of The One(TITO)!!!

Humanity at its finest.

I lived near a pristine city park that was trashed by Canadian geese years ago while the city dithered on what to do with them with lots of hysterical acting out from the envirno moonbats. Like seagulls and city pigeons, they are annoying filthy flying rats when they are in the wrong places.

Via Drudge, one wildlife biologist calls for killing them around the airport in a NY Post article with the usual animals-before-people moonbats responding in the comments.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/01172009/news/regionalnews/hey__geese__get_150594.htm

The miracle of this landing is stunning.
The fact that the capt. managed to keep the wings PERFECTLY level avoided a disaster. (in most landings it is a rarity to have both wheels or floats touch at exactly the same time) At speeds around140 Knts, one wing tip digging in would have led to a shearing and breakup of the wing assy, leading to a yaw culminating in a cartwheel and fuselage structural compromise.
It would have broke up on impact.
BUT
By luck there were no waves, the engines took the brunt of the impact damage and sheared off,(That's part of the initial big splash you see in the vid. Imagine two aprox.6ft diameter buckets digging into the water at 140 kts,they're still looking for the engines) and in so doing absorbed quite a lot of kinetic energy saving the airframe integrity allowing it to float as long as it did.
If the gear was down (I haven't heard) It would also have absorbed some of the kinetic energy BUT compromising the sealing of the airframe (making it watertight) due to the ripping apart of thin exposed wheelwell skin at that speed.

The miracle part really comes into play when one realizes that both engines were taken out probably200 to500ft altitude after takeoff. ( I'm Guessing) leaving the aircraft not only without thrust, but total hydraulic and electrical failure.The Airbus needs these for flight controls. It's a fly by wire airplane. The fact that the standby power sources kicked in as fast as they did and the capt had ANY control in a flight envelope of less than 3 minutes is astounding.

This size of aircraft do not generally float. I had read that a minimum fuel load to take it to SC may have kept the weight down and trapped enough air in the wings. I still cant belive seeing at least 100 people (looks like 50 on each wing) Standing right out to the wing tips and its STILL not just floating but LEVEL!

I've been around aviation for a while and this incident is just so humbling in that the odds of this ever being repeated are in my mind zilch.

a huge BZ for everyone involved including the techs at Tuloouse (sp?) that wouldn't let a loose rivet or bolt slide past inspection.

Humbled is the best I can come up with tight now.

OSAMA has a Canada GOOSE TERRORIST training camp just outside Montreal. He's training them to suicide fly into the path of AMERICAN airliners. Training them to sheet EVERYWHERE in ALL our parks has not brought the desired effects - death through disease brought home on our shoes. So they are now being taught to fly into jet engines and are promised 72 VIRGIN GEESE as their reward when they get to ALLAH-LAND!!

We should attack immediately!!!

AtlanticJim: "Prayer? Give it a rest."

Hey, not so fast. When you pray for the pilot, you pray for the "right" pilot for that flight. Captain Sullenberger was definitely the right pilot at the right time. Another pilot might not have been able to handle this situation as adroitly.

Praying in these situations doesn't in any way negate the superb handling of this near-disaster by the pilot and his crew -- and who knows? It might even have enhanced their abilities.

'Ever read Frederick Foresyth's "The Shepherd"? 'Ever heard of encountering angels unawares?

"According to some passenger interviews, prayers were being said by passengers in peril."

For the first time that I recall, some passengers applauded on landing in Calgary recently. The flight was as usual for WestJet, nothing out of the ordinary, just the usual great service.

Why the applause? Were they expecting something other than a successful landing or were they Oprah fans?

Chesley Sullenberger.

So why are the prayers not answered in the fatal ones ? Indifferent ? Biased ? No control ?

test

Back of the mind, all pilots - now where would I set this thing down if the music stops ?

Jet engines of today have an admirable reliability score. A person is more likely to succumb to a slip in the bathtub.

"I waited for a reporter to ask the medical status of the goose."

That's easy...foie gras.

Okay, so it turns out it was a real plane - I feel silly now.

But obviously Bush trained those geese to try to take out that plane. Now we know how they did the job on Paul Wellstone.

Nice touch using Canadian geese. Trying to make it look like a foreign job. But that pilot foiled the evil plans of the Bush-Cheney junta trying to stage one last terrorist attack on New York before the end of their reign finally comes to a close this week. This is yet another crime for Obama to investigate ASAP.

Correct me if I'm wrong, are those the twin towers in the background?

They ought to give this pilot the golden plane award. Wow what a landing.

Joe

"""Makes one wonder if there were any non-believers on board, and if so, will they ever reconsider their non-belief position.""""

did a lot of flying and there was a case or three were things got a little tense, never prayed nor did I let my mind divert to the foolishness of god belief, tho did have to tell one LOUD praying black lady to STFU going into Pittsburgh, as I was trying to read, and kept doing so even when a possible problem arose.

Have a look (humour)

http://www.thepeoplescube.com/
CIA-Trained Geese Bring Down Plane in New York

Joe, you can pray yourself retarded for all I care, just cut the condescension. Putting your hands together and talking to your invisible friend doesn't prevent accidents, nor are rational people likely to accept irrational beliefs during a tense situation.

You may as well ask whether any Muslims on board were praying for Jesus to come save them, or whether any of the Christian passengers suddenly accepted Allah into their lives. Peoples beliefs don't change due to danger. They wouldn't be beliefs if they did.

People's beliefs come to the fort in emergency situations.

G*d's been performing miracles for centuries. How condescending and arrogant to scoff at people's experiences and beliefs.

Putting words in Joe's mouth is the lowest form of criticism. Hey, Joe, just ignore the drive-by smear. Pray for the guy.

"Correct me if I'm wrong, are those the twin towers in the background?"

Yes, those are the twin towers in the bacground in the video preceeding the crash. Interesting to say the least. If you look closely at the twin towers they are not straight and look slightly crooked. Obviously the twin towers have been added to the video. But who & why - are we to believe a miracle has happened and the world is just as safe as it was b4 the twin towers fell? The subconcious mind picks up things the concious mind misses; hence, the use of subliminal advertising in prints ads, movies etc. it has the same effect on the mind as conversational hypnosis. The mind will fill in what is missing with what we perceive.

"Putting words in Joe's mouth is the lowest form of criticism. Hey, Joe, just ignore the drive-by smear. Pray for the guy."

You pray for me, and I'll sacrifice a goat for you. I guarantee we get the same result. Except I also get a tasty BBQ.

Beware the Stealth Geese. Canada's answer to the B2.

I hear that the pilot was an experienced glider pilot as well. Also heard that Chuckie Schummer did not want the widdle birdies gotten rid of so they remain a menace around NY.

Oh, come on folks, is it worth it, people do what they feel comforts them best when faced with impending death whether appealing to a Higher Power or not. Reading all of the eyewitness accounts about this flight was a testimony to our basic humanity. On every level it was flawless.

342 NYC firemen perished on 9/11 trying to save lives, all understanding that they had placed themselves in serious peril. If you know anything sbout the ethnic make-up of the NYCFD you have to conclude that their faith was part of their heroism. We are at our best when called upon to treat other as we wish to be treated, a very Christian concept. Christianity has made us better people.

ron in kewlowna - I don't think that the majority of Jews and Christians think that God is selective. Faith transcends more than that erroneous and simplistic concept for them.

I'm figuring, what with migration patterns and all, that those were probably french- canadian geese

"We are at our best when called upon to treat other as we wish to be treated, a very Human concept."

Fixed that for ya.

"Christianity has made us better people."

Tell that to the LRA - they just finished slaughtering 1,000 Ugandans in their quest to institute a Christian state based on the 10 commandments. Or tell it to the Irish, for that matter - they've been fighting each other for over a century, trying to prove who has the better brand of Christianity.

Christianity has been dragged kicking and screaming into the peaceful and understanding religion that it happens to be (for the most part) today. Most of the gains we've made have been in spite of religion, not because of it. Any honest student of history has to acknowledge that, with a few exceptions, Christianity has been a regressive force in human progress. About the only thing the church ever got right was it's implementation of free education - and even that was done mainly in order to train future clergymen.

By the way, I really liked the first part of your comment. It's too bad you had to go and spoil it by implying that superstitious beliefs make people heroic. Those firefighters didn't die because of their faith - they died because they were good people trying to help their fellow human beings. There were, however, some men who died that day solely because of their faith.

Nineteen of them, to be precise.

I waited a long time but no one seems interested in those twin towers but me and two others. look back at the two minute mark. I called two people to come in and look over my shoulder. They both picked it up immediately. OK Maybe its only a fault on the film. Yah

I have nothing against religious people, I just don't want them flying the plane. Many of the deeply religious people I've met tend to put too much faith, and too much responsibility, in a higher power. I want someone who's willing to take responsibility for all his actions, sitting in the pilot's seat.

I used a helicopter for a bush job in northern Alberta about 20 years ago. I noticed the pilot praying over his breakfast on the first day. He turned out to be a liability on a couple of occasions.

His first mistake was telling me that he might have to leave me in the bush, overnight, if the weather turned bad. I explained to him that it was not in his best interest, and he changed his tune.

His next screwup was flying under a freezing rain squall. He became glassy eyed, and had to be told, sternly, to go around. He seemed to resign himself to God's will a little too easily.

Since then, I've made sure to keep a short leash on people who view death as nothing more than a change of scenery.

Yeah dp and several late friends of mine were proudly atheistic in outlook and died piloting their own aircraft. They seemed to think they were invincible. Coincidence? You decide. Personally I think that people are stupid and or get tunnel vision no matter what their religion.

???

Why the hell would not believing in an afterlife make you feel invincible? That's idiotic. If anything, knowing that this life is the only chance we get would tend to make people more cautious.

I definitely agree that people can be stupid regardless of religion, though. But the fact that there are hundreds of different types of stupidity in the world doesn't excuse any one particular type of stupidity. It's like saying "some people believe in ghosts, so it's ok for me to believe in leprechauns". As excuses go, that's pretty sad. The rational choice isn't to pick one particular bit of nonsense and stick with it - the rational choice is to reject them all.

No, it's not the twin towers; the twin towers were twice the height of any other buildings, and these two buildings are the same/slightly taller height. Take a look at these pictures.

Pictures of twin towers

Bravo to the pilot and crew, medals all round. It reminds me of the snappy evacuation of that French jet that crash-landed at Pearson in 2005. But I'm wondering if the passengers can get their luggage back? Wet clothes can be dried out.

As for the medical status of the terrorist goose, I suspect it's not unlike that of the bird that was hit by a Randy Johnson fastball a few years ago.

Re: "the LRA - they just finished slaughtering 1,000 Ugandans in their quest to institute a Christian state based on the 10 commandments"

Perhaps my non-Christian memory is faulty, but isn't one of the 10 Commandments "Thou shalt not kill"?

Joe- One coincidence that seems suspect is that you had several friends who were atheist, AND were private pilots. What are the chances? Or did you join some sort of support group?

I don't consider myself a total atheist, but I plan to squeeze every drop out of my present form, just in case it's my only shot.

oatmealeatincanuck (at 12:45): Is that a Concord in the background?

Yes, at the USS Intrepid Air Museum

http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=40.765258,-74.001074&spn=0.004518,0.01133&z=17

Twin Towers? In fact, it is the Time-Warner Center:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Warner_Center

Thank you for the correction Sarge and ET. Our minds really do fill in what we see with our own perception!

Thank you for the correction Sarge and ET. Our minds really do fill in what we see with our own perception!

Let'see, that was one or more dead Canada Geese. Sierra Club otta be notified.

Can't have clean, nor bitumen coated ducks killed in an uncontrolled manner, no sir.

There otta be a law....

Alex: "You pray for me, and I'll sacrifice a goat for you. I guarantee we get the same result."

I guarantee that if you sacrifice a goat, you'll end up on the floor in zip-ties and your trip will be a disaster. My trip will be just fine. But nice try anyway!

dp:I have nothing against religious people, I just don't want them flying the plane.

Well, if they're from Saudi Arabia, you may have a point. Otherwise, you still have enough time for one more drink before bedtime.

For those who believe in divine intervention, maybe He left His calling card:

The accident occurred at 3,000 feet, 3 minutes after take-off. The pilot had 3 minutes to land the plane, they hit the water at 3:31 pm and it took 3 1/2 minutes for help to arrive.

Why does God intervene in some cases and appears not in others? Mystery. But when I see a public miracle, my heart sings.

A few weeks ago, Jon Stewart on the Daily Show made fun of a US Senator who, making an analogy to the Gaza crisis, asked "If people in Vancouver were daily shooting missiles into Seattle, how long would America wait to defend itself?". Stewart smirks "Canada? Missiles? Wouldn't they have to stand at the border and throw them?".

Well, now he knows! Our stealth geese can strike anywhere, anytime! All our geese are belong to us! .. uh, I mean "All your geese are belong to us!" .. no, I mean "All your planes are belong to our geese!" .. hm, let me get back to you..

"The accident occurred at 3,000 feet, 3 minutes after take-off. The pilot had 3 minutes to land the plane, they hit the water at 3:31 pm and it took 3 1/2 minutes for help to arrive."

lol

Numerology strikes again :) I suppose you'll think it miraculous if you wake up on the 10th of October 2010 at 10:00 am with ten fingers and ten toes, and ten letters in your mailbox. Guess that god guy doesn't have anything better to do than leave numerical clues for crazy people to dig through.

...dp, just a question, how old and how much flying experience was the person you were referring too?

Self righteousness isn't a hallmark of a trusted person, religious or not - I guess some of the Astronauts shouldn't be trusted either?

...alex, 'Putting your hands together and talking to your invisible friend doesn't prevent accidents,"

You know one thing, I can personally say they do and know I shouldn't be here. So guess you can call me an invisible friend too then as I'm talking to you direct.

So, sure, go ahead and mock those who pray, as well as your small g God, but you know what is really neat?

He will still answer if you cry onto Him.

You people are all sick!!!!! Anyone who has NO compassion for animals and is anti-pet, has something wrong with them. Everyone knows that serial killers start out as animal haters.

"You know one thing, I can personally say they do and know I shouldn't be here"

I can personally say that I am Thor, god of thunder and lightning.

"He will still answer if you cry onto Him."

Your invisible friend is going to talk to me? Riiight.

Hey, wanna know something else that's really neat? If you're really really depressed, and wish REALLY REALLY hard, Elvis will come and sing you a song that will make everything better! And then he'll take you away to his glorious mansion in the sky, where you can eat fried chicken and listen to his music any time you like! Oh, but if you don't believe that Elvis is still alive, his evil brother Fred will lock you up and make you listen to the Backstreet Boys for all of eternity. So, um, you better believe. But since you're clearly just misguided, and since I'm so much more moral and humble than you are, I'll put in a good word for you next time I talk to Elvis. Maybe he'll decide to spare your soul despite your evil nature and your refusal to believe in him.

You're welcome!

Well if it makes you feel better:

thank you.

“Miracle” or “Luck” is doesn’t really matter - I would say they would have been far more lucky to have made it to their intended destination on time!

Posted by: Marilynne at January 18, 2009 9:48 PM>

“Everyone knows that serial killers start out as animal haters.”

Hitler had a dog, so have all American presidents including Obamba.

Just saying anyway, Ha ha.

I don’t actually believe serial killers are “animal haters” per say, they more or less have no feelings for the animals and take pleasure in sadistic acts. I don’t think hate comes into the equation much. Animals are simply vulnerable victims until they feel more comfortable taking risk and moving up the food chain.

I am the only true Christian on this post.

My beliefs may not coincide well with some of your “Christian” believes which are false if they are not the same as mine, but that is the unfortunate truth for you. Our parish minister has said as much.

Essentially we believe that Christ has already returned to earth for the second time and he now carry’s a sword. He will smite all that do not believe in him and asks us to help smite those who do not worship him in the modern way. He is very angry, even angrier with those that worship him in his first incarnation, as a lamb. Jesus is now a warrior preparing for the end times, and those who will not take up arms for him are doomed to hell. That sounds like you to me.

So since you do not believe in Christ the way we believe in Christ you will soon parish and I will have your house and belongings. That should not matter much for you because a true Christian will now have those things for which you will no longer need.

After the end times, we will be the survivors and will make a new world of peace for 1000 years. You will suffer in hellfire for eternity because you are not a true believer only a pretender unlike me.

Post your home address on this thread so that some “saved ones” from our church can visit you and offer you the opportunity to also be “saved”.

Especially you Alex – for when you kill a goat you must now face north and use a plastic bag over its head not a knife, because only Islam is foul enough to use a knife. You will be the first to hell for this offence, unless you take the true Christ into your heart.

"Well if it makes you feel better:

thank you"

Congrats: you've just realized the true nature of religion.