I will never understand the left siding with the Islamics
They very tenants they hold dear and claimed to have championed, Gay rights, womens rights, hell even human rights the Islamics would be more than happy to take away from them.

Larqs-

This explains a ton of it. The "perfesser" linked to it, and I'm going to continue to spread this little bit of history around.

(If I did this right, click on my name for the link.)

Besides, I can't understand a culture that embraces death so deeply. Didn't Darwin have a term for that?

Do they even see the irony in their "peace" protest??

Leftist and Islamists share one thing. They hate the Truth and worship a culture of death. Their kindred spirit is little more than a death wish for humanity.

What a jolly People. Lets import some more?

The left in this country must be self-loathing and inherently suicidal to support the goals of radical Islam. Gays have been beheaded for being gay in Islamic regimes!

Where's the CHRC when they could actually make a difference regarding hate? It's okay to practice polygamy and sexually exploit women but it's not okay to "Merely offend" someone why is that? Why is it okay for Arabs to hate Jews but not stupid white men living in momsey's basement?

Apparently all Leftists of all "orientations" suffer from the same debilitating mental disorder that prevents them from understanding the real world around them, even if they've been made privy to facts that would change their views, if only they weren't insane.

Seems all Leftists are brainwashed by their powerful ideology's leaders and propagandists, who are everywhere, in education, in the state apparatus, in Big Media, etc... and this brainwashing renders them incapable of opening their minds to reality if reality differs from the indoctrination they received. If they observe reality as differing from that which has been programmed into their minds as being reality, they'll automatically deny reality and tell themselves that the lies they've received are actually reality. This is the way their brains operate, the way they were trained to "think". This is the essence of Leftist Mental Disorder. They really ARE that different.

Leftist "gays" are told that Muslims are peaceful, so they won't believe it when they're told that Islamofascists such as the likes of Hamas and Hezbollah actually hate "gays" and kill them for being like that.

Today I see Leftists online saying the same old stuff, apparently unable to accept the reality they're surely hearing of, which is that Hamas started the conflict in the first place, brought the retaliation onto them, and are to be blamed, not Israel.

The more I witness the Left carrying on as insane as they are, the more I realize that they really, really are insane, unable to see reality as it is, deluding themselves into believing that something else is the reality.

The only way in which Leftists voluntarily leave the Left is if there is such a shock to their minds that they can't any longer accept their indoctrination, because reality is too strong to deny any longer. This is why 9/11/01 caused many people to leave the Left; the reality was so strong as to render the received brainwashing broken and inoperable and a whole new reality, the true reality, the only remaining thing to accept. Even I was shocked into abandoning my delusion that something like 9/11 couldn't possibly happen, certainly not in the fully-developed, civilized, enlightened, sophisticated, tolerant Free World. The delusion was shattered within minutes of my seeing the Twin Towers aflame on CNN, and I declared, "this is terrorism... this is war... this is real... it's happening; it's not impossible after all".

When will the Left ever come to see the true reality in the Middle East, that Israel is innocent and is only defending herself against those who simply hate her and want her dead?

What will it take to jolt these insane Leftists out of their delusion?

I was in Toronto today for another function, so I didn't see anything of the protest, but I wore my Support the Troops cap just on the off chance any of the marchers lost their way. My question is: in light of what transpired in Nazi occupied Europe during World War II, why aren't Jewish groups firebombing every German town in sight?

I saw a Canadian flag in the CTV edition of this flagrant abuse of freedom of expression. It horrified me and it should horrify any Canadian. They are 'free' to say what they like , if they pay taxes IN Canada and are Canadians. If my country and my flag are being used to promote the hate these people promote then I have a big problem with them squatting on Canadian soil.

They are blinded by their hatred of their own culture and heritage (Western) to the extent that they fail to see that they will be the first ones eliminated under Islam. Neither can any of these useful idiots understand that the situation of Israel and Gaza is one of many side shows, because the Islamists have a clearly defined long term agenda for bringing the world, especially the West, under the rule of Islam.

There are many excellent books on the subject and a more recent one is "They Must Be Stopped" by Brigette Gabriel, an Arab Christian born and raised in Lebanon. She now lives in the United States and has established an organisation with its own website, www.actforamerica.org, in order to unit people at the grassroots level before it is too late. As she states we cannot depend on our government, therefore citizens must organise to fight (not with weapons or illegal means) the threat to our own survival. These useful idiots would do well to read up on the facts and truth about Islam, especially when they are spelled out by people who came from Muslim countries.

It seems the gay types don't support or read things like...

www.thereligionofpeace.com for example, or,

www.faithfreedom.org

I wouldnt assume that because there is a Pride Flag in the protest that the person holding it is gay. These things are as much about showing how "western" and mainstream they are.

Like any pictures in this assume they are staged

A single picture truly does say a thousand words doesn’t it?

It amazes me that the lefty trolls that post their rhetoric about the world we live in actually think conservatives are listening anymore.

How could anyone understand the sick and suicidal minds of the left? The scariest thing of course is that they refuse to go it alone; they want to drag the rest of the world down with them.

Instead of buying food as PMH has promised (the 4 million shakedown on Jan 06/09) why don’t we buy airline tickets for the lefty supporters? They can act as human shields like some of them did for ol Saddam remember?

I still have to laugh remembering the one loon who rode the peace bus from the UK to Iraq, who was “shocked” because Saddam actually took them up on their offer and he didn’t want to partake any further because it was only supposed to be a good will gesture. Ha ha ha.

Why would any group want to stage themselves looking ignorant and stupid? I don't get it, really. I have gay friends and coworkers. They're no more ignorant then anyone else about world affairs it seems. Why do they look so uninformed on this issue? A gay person could live a long, happy and healthy life in Israel. In any islamic culture, they're dead people.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney

www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=dick+cheney&meta=

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2004/aug/26/uselections2004.gayrights

Dick Cheney

and post dramatic strees disorder after war
or have bad life can affect sis life changed because of anger and less sleep and stress:

President of Lithuania Valdas Adamkus (right) meets with Vice President Cheney in Vilnius, May 2006George W. Bush and Cheney were re-elected in the 2004 presidential election, running against John Kerry and his running mate, John Edwards. During the election, the pregnancy of his daughter Mary and her orientation as a lesb became a source of public attention for Cheney in light of the same-six marriage deba
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In the article it states "The apparent executions". Apparent? What, they think maybe the guy was just a f***-up as a crane operator?

There must be a penchant for suicide among the "rainbow ranks".

IIRC, the Edmonton Sun recently had a piece about "bug-chasers".

After 9/11 there was a lot of concern that people would take their anger out on innocent Arabs that had nothing to do with the attacks. The slightest incident in-which an Arab was yelled at or harassed was universally condemned, as it should have been, but I haven't seen or heard the same condemnation for those going after Jews.

Perhaps if the Jews were to dance in the streets and celebrate the deaths of Palestinians in Gaza, the way some Arabs celebrated 9/11, the left-wing would treat them better...

Posted by: Chazz at January 10, 2009 9:31 PM>

“Why would any group want to stage themselves looking ignorant and stupid?”

Because they are emotional basket cases who feel marginalized and victimized, and believe through emotions that the so called “minority” of Muslims in our society are a kindred spirit. In other words logic goes out the door and hatred for their own communities fills that intelligence void.

I used the term “minority” Muslims to emphasis the illogical point of these people considering this “minority” consists of nearly 2 billion on the planet and hardly a minority at all. The same would apply to all so called minorities on the American continent; they do not exist in the global scheme of things. They exist in the minds and language of the “have not’s” and the “can not’s”. It’s far easier to cry foul and collect than it is to earn and be respected. “Respect” being the most demanded title of all so called minorities, ever hear anyone you know demand respect?

new

git up to bloody speed will you, Cheney's daughter IS gay, therefor someone else's daughter being gay would be of no, and I mean no, consequence to Cheney!!

Please, if you are a real conservative visit Dr. Ron Paul's site. He is a republican from Texas who has taken it upon himself to be the champion of liberty. Listen to what he says on the issue of I vs P...video on the home page.

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/

more videos on the issue...

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/index.php?blogpage=2

What would the Israeli-Arab conflict mean if the U.S. had a non-interventionist foreign policy? Well, it would not necessarily mean much to the well-being of the United States, says Michael Scheuer, former head of the CIA's Bin Laden Unit and author of
Imperial Hubris: Why the West Is Losing the War on Terror. In a new article at Antiwar.com, Scheuer explains how the American elite, "addicted to intervention," has put the United States in a position where Israel's actions are understandably seen as being approved by U.S. policy. Because of the special relationship between America and Israel, the Israeli invasion of Gaza has only reinforced the perception that the United States and Israel call the shots, that U.S. allies in the Arab world are puppets, and that Muslim lives are devalued by our government. The invasion has only guaranteed disruption to a potential peace process and reinvigorated Hamas, according to Scheuer.

Eric Margolis discusses the two narratives being told about the Gaza invasion in his own article at LewRockwell.com. "In the Israeli and North American press version" of the story, Isreal is retaliating, fully within its rights, against Hamas terrorists for firing rockets and killing innocent Israeli civilians. Margolis agrees such terrorism is a crime, but he says "so, too, is the Israeli blockade of Gaza, which is an egregious violation of international law and the Geneva Conventions." The invasion also has important political implications, both in Israel and in America. In Isreael, the leaders of the Labour and Kadima parties are trying to prove themselves tougher than Likud. Here at home the Obama administration will take power with many Labor Party–friendly Middle East advisers and the Muslim world blaming America for the violence in Gaza. And of course, the attacks will also likely "torpedo the current Saudi-sponsored peace plan, which had been backed by all members of the Arab league."

If America had a non-interventionist foreign policy, the impact on the United States by such horrendous conflicts abroad would be minimized. We as individual Americans could disagree among each other about those conflicts, or choose not to care about them at all. As it is, even our political processes become interlinked with politics abroad, and when American treasure and diplomacy are seen behind other nations' acts of belligerence, the United States becomes a target for resentment and even terrorism. This makes it all the more important to see foreign wars with a bit of nuance and an effort at balance, but it is not always easy. It might not always be possible to be objective. All the more reason we should return to our Founding Fathers' policy of peace, honest friendship and free trade with all nations; entangling alliances with none.

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=7384

The Canadian Sentinel :
Well said. Your posts just get better .

Deezflowers, aren't you the same genius that posted Press TV (Iran) as "evidence" of depleted uranium being used by Israel on civillians? And Wikipedia too?

Were you aware that Ron Paul also suggests that the USA pull out of NATO and the UN? And switch to hard money? He's a doctrinaire Libertarian and something of a nut.

Also straying somewhat from the point, yes? That being the rainbow flag flying in the pro-Hamas demonstration.

You do realize what Hamas and their fellow Islamist scumbags do to gay men when they find them, right?

Posted by: Deezflowers at January 10, 2009 10:58 PM>

I’m a little confused as to what you’re trying to imply Deez. I haven’t heard anyone on these posts suggest sending troops or aid to bolster Israel. If you had read any of my posts on the IP issue earlier it is exactly that, “we need to stay out and not interfere”.

That said, most of the conservative posters are aiming their strong opinions against the Liberal left who have been actively seeking support for Palestine, including aid. This then brings us directly into the conflict as participating non-combatants. Do you really believe for a moment that Hamas the elected governing party of the Palestinians is going to feed its people before it feeds its army?

“If America had a non-interventionist foreign policy,”

Exactly!

The fact that many of the conservatives read here express their opinioned support for Israel over Hamas should not be some inexplicable phenomena. Israel is a likeminded 1st world nation that harms no one in the world unless provoked into thinking it is going to lose its sovereignty or even existence. Any normal nation would feel the same. Especially when it is a small persecuted nation surrounded by 500,000,000 individuals that hates its very being.

The Palestinians comprise the root cause through its Islamic brotherhood the validation of Islam’s hate and terror on the west. If you read my posts more carefully you can see that I care not a lick about the Israeli/ Palestinian conflict except in terms of how it affects my nation, Canada. I recognize the dangers of Islam in our country; we see the beginning of Europe’s problems happening in our city streets today. Do you really think the problems in France the Netherlands, Sweden…. just happened overnight?

Obama is coming to Canada as first forign country

http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/abc/home/contentposting.aspx?isfa=1&feedname=CTV-TOPSTORIES_V3&showbyline=True&date=true&newsitemid=CTVNews%2f20090110%2fObama_visit_090110

http://news.sympatico.msn.ca/Video/Player.aspx?v=114f5773-3251-45a6-bd4e-834fcd850688

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isreali killed hope for settlement : hamas said today

http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/abc/home/contentposting.aspx?isfa=1&feedname=CTV-TOPSTORIES_V3&showbyline=True&date=true&newsitemid=CTVNews%2f20090110%2fisrael_gaza_090110
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cease fire in Isreal and Palestine and
better economic discusion to grow both
countries reduced deficit

http://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/Canada/ContentPosting?newsitemid=CTVNews%2f20090109%2fflaherty_recession_090109&feedname=CTV-NATIONAL_V3&show=False&number=0&showbyline=True&subtitle=&detect=&abc=abc&date=True

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The question is this
why so many people this time did protest against Israel include a group in Isreali who are disagree with their government ideas and direction

Why even USA are not support continue of war in Isreal and they are not listen

why all countries asked for cease fire and Isreali this time continue

are you telling all those people above said are not understand and only few people seat in government of Isreal understand the most and best for Jewish interest and they are doing it because they are very samrt

if you are good father and able to have good children grow up then you can be good leader if you can made small house grow well you can run all government well too in 99% of cases some conditin may exclude above in most cases people with strange kid are have not good life style.
let's donot talk about peopel who gone any more

Largs wrote:

"They very tenants they hold dear and claimed to have championed, Gay rights, womens rights, hell even human rights the Islamics would be more than happy to take away from them."

My sentiments and just proves how stupid these people really are and they at the same time look down at people who don't share their views. What a bunch of morons.

canadians will not, now or ever do anything about islam in our country. we will accept any crap they shove our way. why? because this generation has never fought for their own freedom and never will. we will go and fight in afganistan but we we will not change islam there. when we are tired of that fight we will come home and all will be as before. too bad. real victory requires that your enemy begs for mercy and you show him mercy. we are not even close.

"If America had a non-interventionist foreign policy....."

If America DID have a non-interventionist policy. You, Deezflowers (cloth-eared idiot that you are), and all of us would be speaking either German or Russian.

Think about that for just 5 minutes.

The Phantom: If you were a real conservative, as you obviously are not, you would agree with his stance on pulling out of NATO and the UN, both of which are troubled organizations. The rainbow flag has nothing to do with anything really, who cares? What can be taken from it? Nothing of any good or informative, it distracts from the actual issue.

Knight99: We support America, you can't deny that S. Harper fully backs America and her actions.

"Israel is a likeminded 1st world nation that harms no one in the world unless provoked into thinking it is going to lose its sovereignty or even existence"

That isn't truth. First world yes, harms no one...lie, going to lose sovereignty or existence? by whom? They are a first world, military super power of the middle east...who are they to be threatened by?

You are paranoid about the "dangers of Islam"...a result of too much western media filled with propaganda.

New's getting it I see. Good questions.

"The question is this
why so many people this time did protest against Israel include a group in Isreali who are disagree with their government ideas and direction"

FredA: What in christ's name are you talking about, now THAT's PARANOIA!

At Last Minute, Bush Sandbags UN Ceasefire Agreement
By Susie Madrak Saturday Jan 10, 2009 6:00pm

You don't suppose Bush reneged on his support to make the incoming administration deal with it, do you? I mean, because that would be breathtakingly cynical and wrong!

Condoleezza Rice, the US Secretary of State, was forced to step back from voting in favour of the Gaza ceasefire resolution at the UN Security Council after orders from Washington, diplomatic sources said yesterday.

The US abstention on the resolution vote early yesterday, which clearly weakened its impact, was the final twist in a tumultuous three-day marathon of negotiations in New York.

When three of the world's top diplomats -- Ms Rice, David Miliband, Britain's foreign secretary, and his French counterpart, Bernard Kouchner -- descended on New York on Tuesday to take action there was plenty of reason to believe that their efforts would end in tears. Most alarming was the prospect of a vote on a ceasefire text tabled by Libya. The US was threatening to veto it.

But by Thursday morning, the US had had a surprising change of heart. It could back a resolution, if the British drafted one, which Mr Miliband and his diplomatic crew duly did.

When finally every last hurdle was cleared and the members of the Security Council were headed to their chamber for the vote, there was a mood of celebration in the building.

But before the vote was due, word began to circulate that America was not going to vote in favour after all. The change of heart came about with a phone call from George Bush to Ms Rice in which he said don't veto the resolution but don't vote for it either.

http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/last-minute-bush-sandbags-ceasefire-a

rocket attacks from gaza:
http://www.cjpme.ca/documents/35%20En%20Qassam%20Rocket%20Attacks%20v.1.pdf

Hamas Reinstates Crucifixions of Christians.

http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/Hamas_bombs_Gaza_Israel/2009/01/09/169756.html

I really don't know what to say......

Posted by: Deezflowers at January 11, 2009 12:40 PM >

"The question is this
why so many people this time did protest against Israel............"

Every one else is working!

Knight99: Your comment doesn't make any sense. The question is "why are so many people protesting against Israel?"....not "why are so few people protesting against Palestine?".

What does people working have to do with lots of protests against Israel? Other than showing that lots of people are willing to protest rather than go to work?

Deez>

“Other than showing that lots of people are willing to protest rather than go to work?”

Exactly! And who were these people again?

That’s right the people that either believe Israel needs to be whiped off the face of the earth OR the supporters of these people that believe Canada needs to have direct involvement in the conflicts of foreign nations.

I seem to remember someone quoting once - “If America had a non-interventionist foreign policy,”

Hmmmm…………..I think more Canadians need to go back to work and do something more beneficial for their own country. I suppose if you subsided on welfare though it could allow more time to march and rant in the streets………..hey wait a minute?

"Exactly! And who were these people again?

That’s right the people that either believe Israel needs to be whiped off the face of the earth OR the supporters of these people that believe Canada needs to have direct involvement in the conflicts of foreign nations."

That sounds like your personal opinion to me.
It also sounds like it's your opinion that most protesters are on welfare.

If you're implying that I, and/or the protesters as a whole, are calling for interventionist foreign policy, that would also be your opinion. Condeming a nation for their actions does not constitute interventionist foreign policy. Thanks for the opinions.

Posted by: Deezflowers at January 13, 2009 11:28 PM >

"Thanks for the opinions."

You're more than welcome.