Don't expect to see that clip on the 6 o'clock news.

"Don't expect to see that clip on the 6 o'clock news.

Posted by: a different bob at January 4, 2009 1:18 PM "

But,but,but,why not??Doesn't the MSM strive to give us the unbiased truth??

You are just so mean to show the truth - how will the left ever live if they can't feed off the lies of Hamas and the other Arab countries.

Since the ambulance is "Advancing to the rear" do the Jihadi's have to scream "Allah Akbar" backwards ?

Wonder if they are paying the UN for use of it's copyrighted logo ?

Sigh, what can one say? Please follow the Marquis of Queensbury rules for the conduct of war - yeah, right. Does that mean that all ambulances should now be viewed as acceptable targets, much as some Hamas say that all Israelis regardless of age and gender are legitimate targets?

Looking back, WWI and WWII were more than just an awful waste and a tragic waste of human capital. I wonder where we would be now without that loss of life. (Yeah, I know that there was evil to be defeated in WWII etc, but if Germany hadn't mobilized in solidarity with Austria-Hungary........)

What a different world this might be

No doubt the UN will launch a full investigation. Senior administrators in the UN have indicated that they are "outraged... outraged and totally surprised", that such a thing could be going on.

Jeepers, it looks like a bunch of armed Hamas militants are being ferried around by a UN vehicle, but there's simply no way that would ever happen, because if it did, CBC/CTV/CNN/MSNBC would have covered it. They'd have to, because it would give new, instructive context to the meaning of all the UN's pronouncements on the dispute.

I really must get my eyes checked. I could almost swear I saw a big "U" and an "N" on that van.

I've seen this clip before, it was a few years ago. I'm not saying it still doesn't happen though.

Hamas, the only organization who brings their fighters, family, ambulance and a handy corpse or two to the fight.

http://www.israelinsider.com/channels/diplomacy/articles/dip_0204.htm#

"The film was screened to foreign reporters and later shown on Israeli television, causing considerable amusement among the TV commentators and journalists, since the "corpse" kept tumbling out of the blanket. "One time he falls off the stretcher when he is already in a crowd," Col. Eisen narrated. "When he came back to life in the middle of the crowd (at approximately 1:35 in the clip), the crowd breaks up because they didn't know that it wasn't really a corpse." Israel Radio reported that many reporters laughed at the point in the tape that the "corpse" seemed to "rise from the dead," causing the people around him to flee in terror."

Zip is right- this clip is Hisboola, (sub whatever spelling is currently popular), being typically Muslim during Lebanese conflict. But as he also implies Hamas is equally scummy and will do or use anything to kill Israelis and advance their goal of destroying civilization. GO JEWISH GUYS!!!!

How many more days before BO is inaugurated? The Israelis seem to be settling a few scores before then.

BO is between a rock and a hard place on this as he needs the Jewish lobby and after his pentagon and CIA briefings he knows how important Israeli is as an ally and how short a fuse it is before Iran's nuclear threat needs to be dealt with. On the other side is Europe - wrestling with its internal islamic radicalism - hoping that BO will be less sympathetic to Israel and more prepared to let them back into the ME on the side of the Islamic dictators and thus maybe reduce some of their domestic tensions.

I suspect that BO will be just about as hardline as the Republicans were meaning it will be a very short time before France and Germany et al start expressing their great disappointment with BO.

Excuse my complete ignorance on this matter but has this been commonplace for Hamas to use UN marked ambulances as cover to move gun toting soldiers around?

Here's another photo-op currently on CNN.com

The headline was what caught my eye: "Doctor in Gaza: (says) Patients Lying Everywhere."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/04/gaza.humanitarian/index.html

Gord Tulk,

Germany's, Markel, is standing up for Israel in no uncertain terms, much to the consternation of the commy-leftist parties.

"Excuse my complete ignorance on this matter but has this been commonplace for Hamas to use UN marked ambulances as cover to move gun toting soldiers around?

Posted by: Robert W. at January 4, 2009 2:35 PM "

Yes,Robert,it is.As well as hiding behind innocent civilians,using hospitals as launching pads for rockets,schools as bomb factories,etc.I am going to assume you were using sarcasm when you asked that question.

"Doctor in Gaza: (says) Patients Lying Everywhere."

What a perfect double entendre.

JT, I was aware of the other things but not of the ambulance maneuver. I'm guessing that must be against the Geneva Convention, yes? Which would make it a war crime? Isn't it funny how Canadian academics only ever refer to the U.S. and Israel when it comes to war crimes. Yet we're told their "Unbiased Experts". Uh huh.

Hey, here's lovely comment I just found on one of the CBC comment boards:

Shahid Iqbal wrote:Posted 2009/01/04 at 9:33 AM ET:

Israel’s “story” about Hamas' rockets is as true as Bush’s “story” about WMDs (weapons of mass destruction) in Iraq.

Did any Iraqi or any Afghan ever kill a single American or British in an act of terrorism prior to 9/11 or after? The answer is “absolutely no”. And Americans and British have killed millions of innocent people in these countries. If 9/11 attacks were carried out by Saudis, why US did not bomb them?

----------------------------
Me again. Do some people actually believe that Hamas fired no rockets into Israel -OR- is this guy just the new Baghdad Bob?

Robert....yes it is a war crime,but seeing as how the Useless Nations has not declared this a war,how can it be a crime(I know,dumb Q).
Having served,and seen killing,I abhor it,but some "people",i.e Hamas,Hezbolla,etc deserve to be wiped out.They are not "people" but vermin,and viruses on the face of the planet.As the old saying goes,"the only good Commie is a dead one".And yet some people still think we can talk and reason with this animal.Does the word stupid not mean anything?

irwin:

I am aware of Merkel's position. I should have stated (and in fact wondered whether I should have been more categorical) that I was referring to the general populous/media rather than the current leadership.

The UN is always ready to deliver terrorist to anywhere in the world, overnight.

ambulance must go in several places to see if anybody dead or injuried and they are go with militray group come with them too

sometimes some live miltiry are stock too along wiht dead or injury people

and one are killed or injured

then ambulance carry injury and if they can bring other live back to safe place too before they get killed too

ambluance need to monover in all places too to see how many are injured under UN

UN job is real difficult they lose one of their member today as i heard the news

some times UN may scared to go and amboluance of UN carry injured using army to go for this intention i guess
while can be used abuse thier job too

who care how many are dieing or injured when no way go out of this place only UN amubulance must help them out

number of injured in war is 10 times more than number of dead people

Ummmmmmmm.....new. Did you even look at the video?? Since when do ambulance drivers carry weapons and an armed unit in the back???

Justthinkin; c'mon, be reasonable; it was either take an ambulance or wait for the bus...;)

An analysis worth reading:
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/mesh/2009/01/on-the-ground-in-gaza/

NEW, WTF are you talking about? The good honest Palestinians must take responsibility for their lives and want peace, otherwise it is not for me to say that Israel should not bring down the gods of war and defend herself

Ever occur to any of you that ambulance drivers are typically unarmed and are in no position to rebuff armed gunmen?

Its called hijacking.

Be advised, you will have to be a little objective to notice that, which is probably asking for too much. Truth be damned eh.

Justthinkin posted at 3:20 pm. " Having served,and seen killing,I abhor it,but some "people",i.e Hamas,Hezbolla,etc deserve to be wiped out.They are not "people" but vermin,and viruses on the face of the planet." There is a certain "native elder" in Sask. who was taken to court for saying almost those exact words about Jews.www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2005/07/08/ahenakew050708.html

justthinkin
i am not viedo expert again or army war
film expert either
but i recommanded to
this is all news taht isreali killed
UN member today and
UN said can not stop this mess any more

you may need wear your glasses

two ambulance went to small street as video showed it

it did not carry soldure at all

then you hear voice of soludre said
allah akbar it means god is greatest

when you hear this sound ususally in war
zone will say when one person is died already in scene and some may got injured

next showed next
one of ambulance stop and try to turn back
and you can see
bomb blow up in ground right near
the ambulance

then you can see ambulance is not moving and only
the light is turing
it means ambulance driver must got hit

because when israli drop gun and bomb so close to ambulance small piece will hit the driver as ususally is cause of injury or dead

finally it showed when first ambulance hit
the scond amublance turn back in reverse
and other soludre jumb to go with amublance out of the scene

if you take look at
this documentary

you can proof isreali hit the amublance and
must ambulance personal got shot since amublance did ot move at all

as we heard in news today
UN said their driver died today

justthinkin look at video one more tim

nobody has right to shoot ambulance in war zone that is war crime you know that

take look at this site
://news.sympatico.msn.ctv.ca/abc/home/contentposting.aspx?isfa=1&feedname=CTV-TOPSTORIES_V3&showbyline=True&date=true&newsitemid=CTVNews%2f20090104%2fisrael_gaza_090104

That's quite a hijacking Wilson. Do yo think that may be the vehicle that was forced to drive into the one of the twin towers in the 90's?

Not to sound un-humanitarian, but watching the film I could not help but think “now would be the opportune time to drop a Daisy-Cutter to end this mess”.

"""“now would be the opportune time to drop a Daisy-Cutter to end this mess”.""""

Knight

the Ruskies developed a 30 tonner( 60,000 pounder), air-fuel/nono tech puppie, the Isrealis should buy a couple of dozen of them:-)))))

GYM>

Oueeeee sounds nasty – will need to Goggle and find out more.

Sounds a little intense though! Could it damage the security wall if dropped out at two miles for example?

I think we hear less and less from Osama Bin Limpin' because of one of those daisy-cutters.

No matter what the terrorists or the media stooges do, there is always someone lurking around ready to defend them and hoping they will be believed.

i can guess some of commenters sound
jewish to me
worst than live in illusion

what i mean
if you send one unarm person to live in war
zone with no gun send to wish for survive

is sound as stupid and simple suicide
as Iran did in iran -iraq war to fight sadam without proper guns to fight sadam
was lenghty deadly war
then peace with sadams

in compare

for you may wish
to used
all weapen of "mass destruction"!!! to fight all population of all world who today include isreali citizen in pretest to Isreal troops today activities

as Hilter did and did commit suicide at the end of game since he was looser he can not fight the world as jewish isreali poltician think what they did or doing is right and

other are stupid to let them continue doing this

or as stupid as Sadam thougt can occupied kewit and world politician let him to do that

you must be sound reasonable not emotion attached what side you like to live and what side to dien

drop of daisy cutter since that area are so close will cause evern hurt isreali soldure by drop too many of it to the region those small piece are deadly back to them too

i was in war zone not in palestine while i know how sound easy you wish but how deadly weapon are those

New:
Smells like you just dropped one.

Posted by: new at January 4, 2009 5:45 PM>

“i can guess some of commenters sound
jewish to me”.

Nope, not me! I don’t even know any Jews personally, but do enjoy some of the films and books by great Jewish authors and filmmakers.

I think you misunderstand some of our sentiments towards the issues of the Palestinians, when we appear to pick sides between the Israeli/ Palestinian conflict.

First and foremost many or most of us are simply sick of it! It’s not our issue or problem truly to begin with. We are tired of the pandering and support we are asked to give to support the Palestinian cause while they lob rockets at innocent civilians and strap bombs to their children to kill many more. We see the faked propaganda video’s made to sell their plight to an unaware western audience, while they burn American flags and scream death to Americans (because they are the richest country to draw support and it’s not going their way). We see the other extremists sympathetic to their cause march in our streets with slogans like “Death to Freedom” or “Behead those that mock Islam”. They riot in European cities and try to replace our culture and laws with their repressive own, all the while citing the Palestinian cause as their justification and crimes.

The Jews on the other hand live quietly in our midst and have done so for the last 1000 years. They either prosper to the highest levels of our economy or quietly live in their own secluded communities and mind their own business.

Your or any other Muslims criticisms of our overall support for the Israelis or Jewish people goes right over our heads! If you or anyone else thinks they can convince the “non- Jewish” peoples of the world that they are backing the wrong team, you are truly delusional.

When the Palestinians lay down their arms, and do away with their fanatical slogans and militias. No one in the west has any doubts that Israel will come to the table and talk peace. Period.

Dear New,

No one can fault you for your atrocious English, but is it too much to ask that you use Capitals and Punctuation (.,:;) once in a blue moon.

Each of your missives is entirely unreadable.

Robert

Who siad i am writing English!!!
this is 'new' language
call it 'Canadian-Muslim' language
i just creat it
you need to take course one years who know me to read it

sorry anyway i am trying

you will get my point just need to used the way i write

“this is 'new' language
call it 'Canadian-Muslim' language
i just creat it”

Exactly! And we neither like it, nor do we want it in our midst. Along with everything else Islam is just trying to create in our society. Islam has brought nothing but repression and hardship to anywhere it’s settled on the planet. Even the success of so called Arab Muslim Middle Eastern nations is a windfall of oil reserves, kept for the elite few and built with western need and technology. Unfortunately for us the Arab oil lottery has brought greedy corporate, political “compassion” and liberal “white Christian guilt” the murderous ideologies of Islam to our shores.

Aside from the blatant “Fanatical Islamic” attacks on our Embassies, buildings, public transport and private communities, Islam makes us aware and distain it more by the day with its demonstrations in our streets including proclamations that it will own us all one day.

Couple that with the silence of “moderate Muslims” we want no part of you or your culture. We will turn a blind eye to the issues between Israel and Palestine and will forever support the Jews who are creative in our communities and have proven their goodwill towards us. Accented English language or not.

Knight

i could not laught of what you just said

you are saying you live in Canada and you are proud English Canadian which i am fine up to here
then you said you never have had any jewish friend it puzzle me how come

this is multicultuer canda

i am Muslim i grow up with jewish and I have had too many jewish freind and I am still

talk Isreal-Paletine and not against extremsit jewish

then you come saying Jewish live in Canda are so good peopel

still I agree with comments

I know so many of them and reall are good
because they are Candian

then you conclude saying because Jewish in CANADA ARE SO good and Muslim canadina are so bad

while i do see this may made so many muslim here upset

we just see protest against isreal in all world in every where even include artiset singe and so on
now you try to conclude if some msulim in canada are agree with that protest may bother you
and you may feel scared of muslim here for their belife

while you are confuse all issues
we talk about some land in Palestine must give them back all and then they made some change said now we must give them part of land back
and still after 40 years isreal not pay that land back
as simle solutin to give their land back

now your distrust Muslim in canda and how good jewish candaian are not related to topic we are talking about the crisis in Palestin and Isreal

why all people got bother includ Muslim who take Palestine as human right

becuae this part stand so long in so many years ad they are left behind for conflict of interest of poltician overland long time ago
today nobody care about that land and
it cost or caue USA got bankrupt for it

not worst fighting any more

then you better back to topic saying

people who can not speak English well are not know Englsih really in all means or it does not make to not live or stay in canada

English language has so many rules if you can not obey all rules then you arenot talk English properly

while we can use English to communiate when you can communicate with me with words that you got me then problems resolve it.

it is good to know and Paletin coud get all their land back but at this stage hlaf it is ok to take for live longer

and we talk half enlgish broken as some say it but it is better to say half english to stay calm and never say a word at all blame of english as second language i hope you understand my point

not all blame to languge you talk or spoke all goes to your charcter and your ideas writing

Found this via Melanie Phillips:

"You can't have it both ways. If you truly wish to save your nation from being annihilated by Nazi missiles you'd better stop looking to win a popularity contest." ..... "F**k 'em" - Martin Lewis - January 2009

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/martin-lewis/stop-this-vicious-slaught_b_155039.html

Posted by: new at January 4, 2009 7:07 PM >>

He he………I will give you the latitude - that your bad English has not understood the point I was making which had nothing to do with language or the ability to speak English fluently.

You also misunderstand that although I personally do not have a Jewish friend I do respect the Jewish peoples by their deeds and actions. I also most certainly do have many friends of all walks of lives and cultures having lived more than half my life within them around the world including the Middle East, North Africa and South East Asia with particular emphasis on Muslim countries. It’s not that funny then I haven’t met too many Jews to befriend!

The other point you made is directed towards my bias of two equally foreign cultures Jews & Muslims living peacefully in Canada. That’s a little smoke and mirror work by you, because as with all Canadians I view the world through a global lens. What Muslims are doing in Canada is a symptom of their number and fear of reprisal by a much larger conservative population. Unlike the much larger Muslim populations of Europe surrounded by an unarmed liberal demographic. We are savvy enough in other words to see the trouble brought on by Muslims in their host countries once their numbers and confidence is large enough. This occurs globally and would indeed be happening within the US and Canada today except for our national predispositions. In other words we guard against abusive regimes and totalitarian philosophies from invading our national heritage! I’m sorry but Islam does not make the grade as coexisting within our societies from informed and experienced Canadian opinions.

Re: New's posts, and comments arising

I find some attacks and insults directed at New a waste of time to read. If the purpose of this website is just to shout to each other how good "our" opinions are, and how bad any other opinion is, then have at 'er.

However, I would find it more interesting to neither shout nor vilify, but rather as some posts have, outline briefly why posters here feel so strongly about their positions, using facts and rational arguments. Otherwise, isolationism will increase.

It's not my site, and I'm not trying to be high hat, but really, some back and forth stuff can be really boring to sift through.

Sure to be on The National tonight.

/sarc

Posted by: Erik Larsen at January 4, 2009 7:49 PM>

“I find some attacks and insults directed at New a waste of time to read”

You’re more than welcome to jump in and redirect the thread with your own insights.

I gave “new” a little face time based on Kate’s assertion on the previous thread that “new” was a genuine Muslim of bad English simply attempting to make a bad point, and responded in kind.

My return comments were not at all personal attacks on “new”, they were indeed intended to be statements of my position and my reasons behind them, i.e. fodder for rebuttal and debate.

Background for occasional readers:

This is all happening in a UN-sponsored terrorist training camp.

I love this shit! Come to daddy, another one in my Pallywood collection.

Anyone that thinks that 'new' is a recent muzzy immigrant has not stopped to analyze the writing style.

Go back and read the posts – and see where s/he drops the mask every now and again, and slips in a few intelligent sentences. I realize it is hard to keep up the pigeon English for too long without screwing up.

Just ignore the sumabitch and hopefully s/he will wander off into the desert and die.

The only thing missing from this clip is a digital camera man's washroom-hunter waving swastika engraved toilet paper.

How the hell did that article get on the Huffington Post??? Even some of the comments were supportive. Something is terribly wrong here.

In case none of you cared to do any research yourselves...there is no evidence, except that provided by the Israeli governement, that Hamas broke the cease fire or of any violence by Hamas since.

http://www.zmag.org/zvideo/2961

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-falk/understanding-the-gaza-ca_b_154777.html

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1050706.html

http://www.infowars.com/?p=6956

http://opiniojuris.org/2009/01/03/dershowitz-on-israel-and-proportionality/

sorry
this would be my last opinion about isreal-palestinian to how to reach peace in region

what i did;

I watched one more time this video and I noticed this arab Pelstinina must be lose thier mind

by drop of each bomb by device sush as

Daisy cutter

to hit at end of this film hit to ambulance
you can see at least 50 soldures came out of thier homes

why? at beginig it was less crowed and at the end showed more corwed at least 50 soldure suddenly runign every where

because Daisy cutter shot a bomb with very BIG nuise at least they had time of less than a minute to get out their places or scaped as we see so many come out and scaped suddently out but ambulance was hit unfortuantly and if hit so close to ambulance must be very badly injured them too they did not move the ambulance out

with they could identify how many was hidden there and definetly this place was identify by Isreali since they used American Radar and satelit to see there is activities in that area was going on

the camera men hold the camera msut in car close since enterance of ambulance and exist was the same road except in reverse line
and all photo are cut and past in between too

it does not proof they brought soludre while it showed they helping soldre worked there and they cary the soludre who showed his hand got hit at then end too

arab must be stupid to not know they has spy on them easy and can be leak easy by all techonogy
taht is reason they keep bring so many peopel but isreali will hit them easy

the solution is to put international force to stop isreal and since they identify them and will destroy them all easy and htat is reason isreal start from ground since they know wher they are located to get them killed easy fish for isreali

and more cry for paletinian

how many of jewish in west ready to become driver for thos ambulance for UN please put your hand up
if the device of army of america was not there they can not save isreali easy with less causality

while jewish must scared by seeing 25000 fromIran just went to fight in that region

they can not fight with all those population of Muslim
jeiwish if they like to save what land they got free now and saved their life

i recommnaded to take that land and do the peace and never say any words for a while

use money free of USA for few years may still donate you to built your ecnomic country indepnedent from USA
and come out of WAR

if isreali take out of war they will gain more by condition of USA new president is not going to help them long like BUSH

pelestinan also can benefit by peace of get their land and keep less viloance in area
the value of land is Zero now
but
if war get stoped
the value of land in pelstin become million
since they are small and all rich pelstina outside will like to buy back and help the ecominic ok soon
and open for tourist

i see future of both isreal and pelstin without war is so clear and become very rich country
by continue that war
arab stupidly will die soon since US helped fish identify themand will kill them by snitch and spy on them easy to kill all hamas group
and jeish will lose credit in world for greed for more land getting from pelsting
that is not good for security of jewish to l et this was to continue better stop soon today and give back their land today not tommorrow
doing busins with today president of US is easier to contineu fight with them becaue USA is bankrupt

There are only some 375,000 Jews living in Canada, while there are close to 700,000 Muslims. It's not surprising to me that a person wouldn't know a Jew personally, as almost half of Canadian Jews live in the GTA and most of the remainder are in Ottawa, Montreal, and Vancouver. If you don't live in one of these cities, you're not likely to meet many.

'new' says; "you will get my point just need to used the way i write."

Don't think so, pal; don't need to get used to you at all. It's YOUR responsibility to learn to communicate properly in either or both of Canada's Official Languages.

"That's quite a hijacking Wilson. Do yo think that may be the vehicle that was forced to drive into the one of the twin towers in the 90's?"

Nah, that van was sold to them by some American who was more concerned with making money than with whom he was selling it to. Money is God.

Its like the Walmart Syndrome - keep harping on abou tthe threat China poses but continue pumping money into the Chinese economy so that you can save a couple of nickels. Money is God. Everything else be damned.

Occassionally, a gun works too.

When you need a ride
To get to war -
Who you gonna call?
U N

When you need a ride
Cause your feet are sore
Who you gonna call?
U N

When the Jews hover
And you need some cover
Who you gonna call?
U N

Danion

I know English enough to say my point when you write draft and fast you try to say some points is one things able to say and be good journalist is other things. 3 factors need to made you good journalist one you must have brain to hear and analysis things second you must know English or any language to say your point third you must have ability to put some point clear to readers not to yourself only but all not stop you to try as hard as you can.

I just tried to conclude that that bomb droped near the ambulance when they shoot them they made big nuice and say to other party it is coming within a minitue to come sound like you just say
'fiiiishshshsh' and all those soldure jump out suddently at the end of video becuse they identify them even camera man is strangly cut and past so many times wait to get that film for media he know that may come too as spy on them using american satelit or any other we saw in film only and hamas has no way to scaped of it any more by say i am come to kill before coming they will kill them they must find other way to push them or scared them to listen by help law not do themselve other illegal or act under anger show frustration to give isreali new method to kill them more since they know where they are and only look for time to come and kill them all

while in reality taht is their land and not them and isreali knwo what they did is illegal and always scared of palstinina of their history while we can say is today all german people scared of english people because of hitler the answer is No so as future of paletine are not going to see history as hate isreali any more! they know both got betrayed over wrong politic!!

the ironic UN is also the one who voto all in favor of US decision over conflict of interest in land long time ago decision since it is long time ago decision that culture need new review to come with more logic view
as Isreali can identify hamas places easy by US army devices sattelit or voice recogination

hamas also can idetify who and how many Isreali may be 100 to 1000 in Isreali politician with coopearte with few world politic made decision to cut water andeasy to find their names and if they continue war crime to go to jail soon and by using internatioal war devices from other countries like French or etc...

in conclusion put fear over each other by hamas and isreali are not going to resolve any peace or benefit to security financial help to region atall
only increase moer terrorist activities grow now

to let peopel live in fear and horror as they did.

how about give lessom to Hamas is only joke you may said it and only used if isreali are better and lawful than hamas to get credit over it this is more like mafia gang drug dealer street balck fight than poltical two parties fight i guess
one month left for election and isreali tried to break all promise and continue to new president to same old mafia ways we have weapne we have power that is more childish as the way we look at both as you can look at two big boys hold playstation and do the kill over game of false ideas

can we conclude UN isnot going to stop that war as we can see their amublance are busy bring more dead to save more live people there Nohhhhhhh
let's not target all people just prioritize who is worst and who is less guilty to made final judge order for them -
as you can say shut up and sing
we can say if isreali tried to say they did all to save jewish we only better to tell them shut up or if they said they did start all for give lesson to HASMAS again tell them shut up

jewish in world need to protest against thier right now i recommanded to let all jewisih in all world protest this to use their name as jewish as weapn to kill paletinina and ask for end this cease fire and take state of isreal as victory and put thier hand in sky and say horraaaaa
and say to isreali they do not ask any more
stop the war today
one stupid brough wrong deicion long time ago on table and one stupid in USA BOUGHT THAT wrong ideas that idea did not work find better one
yes you can find the better way start with new peopel in poltiic to shake hand really and stick to law today

if state of isreal and state of arab was like french and english province in canada with the same army and goverment was better deal for them to handle it by the way they kill eachother it is better to get them sepearte and do not let them do any contact after peace between isreali and paletinan for two years to go their own sepearte ways and focus to build new independet from USA

://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/04/gaza-invasion-israel-troops

://labs.aljazeera.net/warongaza/

://www.guardian.co.uk/world/israelandthepalestinians

://www.za3tar.net/2009/01/04/a-simple-guide-to-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict-in-gaza/

://www.alertnet.org/db/crisisprofiles/IP_CON.htm

://www.france24.com/en/category/tags-thematiques/israel-palestine-conflict

Repeat a lie often enough and people will believe it. As a further example,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1105143/Countdown-crisis-How-Hamas-Israel-went-war.html has not a single word about Hamas's role in provoking this by randomly firing rockets into Israeli cities.
If people do not seek The Truth, we risk seeing falsehoods peddled and repeated in sufficient frequency and broadness that they become accepted as the truth, thus completing the corruption.

You know, its funny but as a general rule I don't see pictures of Israeli (or America, or Canadian, or British) troops hiding inside ambulances, firing out of hospitals and using women and children for cover from the enemy.

The whole thing about not killing civilians and not firing on ambulances came out of centuries of European warfare where they DID kill the wounded and the bystanders. Civilized nations know that is a bad way to make war, and we know it through hard experience. Mostly because it makes the peace afterward really, really difficult.

Barbarians on the other hand are really bad at war, they think they're being clever. They think the conventions of war indicate weakness.

Posted by: The Phantom at January 5, 2009 10:56 AM>

“Barbarians on the other hand are really bad at war, they think they're being clever. They think the conventions of war indicate weakness.”

Excellent and well said point!

Israel seems to not only understand your point and their enemy, their meeting it head on in kind.

Wilson,

Yes, capitalists require money. They, unlike communists, don't have endless slave labour and gulags to provide for them so they have to EARN their wealth instead.

real barbarine of this film
is Isreali who baned the water in human

if you ask human do not act show anger by their barbarian act

then you are not feel human
and not respect human right

we can not expect Palestinian to act normal of years of abused over their head by isreal
rejim

this is the same expectation as Sadam is gone but his rejim and corruption and abused made so many barbarin action of him still remain
not wipe out easy

they injected to their brain to act look barbarian

while real barbarian are Jewish isreali
sorry i must say the truth

the countreis with too many enemies aboard has bad leader run thier countries for both sides

in balance is US pay too much money to Isreal and let Bush allowed isreal to ban WATER
that imbalance will hit soon all world as we saw so many terrorist activies in West too

be fair with peopel and feed them with human right foods and supply and initial needs
they will back and act human again
trust me in this

do not feed them animal foods otherwise they will turn back and act like
animal

if Jewish does that in Isreal who are racist and sahonism to proof they are better than Palestinan sorry nobody buy their story any more as protest of their own people proof that it is only false proud over nothing and ingorance no Isreali are not better than palestinan both must act civilized not barbarian any more world are watching both now closly under microscope

Why is it that in all of the coverage of all of the conflicts involving Muslims,has no one ever condemned them for their tactics of using civilians as cover. They hide weapons in homes, make weapons in schools, fire weapons from hospitals, use ambulances and UN vehicles to move soldiers and no one says a word.
But let one opponent destroy any of these places and the world is up in arms about attacking civilians. Is the world so stupid as not to see this is done intetionally by the Muslims just to bet that reaction? As we have seen from their suicide killers that bomb other Muslims in markets and schools these criminals don't care who they hurt to get what they want. Peace is not their goal, domination is.
I believe that the group that is putting civilians at risk are more responsible for their deaths than the party that actually committs the act.
When will the world wake up to these crimes against humanity?

Shine a light

"Why...has no one ever condemned them for their tactics..."

Low expectations. The rabble are so nuts no one expects them to act like civilized human beings.

Why would anyone expect anything else? These are people who strap bombs to retarded children and encourage their own children to blow themselves up. How can such people be expected to behave themselves? They are taught nothing but hate from cradle to crater.

Warwick, its much worse than that. The media who cover this event have an -agenda-. They feel it is to their benefit that the barbarians be given a pass no matter how bad their behavior. The Israelis (or Americans, Canadians, Australians, Brits) are pilloried no matter how good their behavior is in the face of the enemy's barbarism.

That's why nobody reports Sri Lanka shelling the Tamil Tigers, or the Lebanese shelling the Palestinians. There's no Western country to beat up, so its not important what they do to each other.

And that, my friends, is why I don't buy the papers or watch TV news.

The clip is over five years old. It's from 2002 I think...

Now you know what is ment by "dual purpose".

Day time it is a regular ambulance used to transport cilivians in front of the western media, at night it is used to bring/withdraw terrorist from the front lines.

A former UN soldier who used drive thought Gaza and lived in the Buffer Zone.

you know
UN ambulance need job to do
and we have UN ambulance in both sides of
battels

we have one in Isreali side

we have one in Palestinan side

since in past 10 days there is only ONE!
Isreali soldure msut be accidently died
as Ruters news showed yesterday

they are basically UN amubulance doing nothing only play wiht flys

on other hand in Palestinan side

UN and UN ambulance plan to reduced kill and injury in Palestinan becaue they are there

to help them NO TO DIE
as may be you disagree with UN ambulance saying let them to do

that is not job of UN amublance is!!!

all life of all civilan and soludre in Paletine side in hand of UN ambulance now

if you see they had one showed his hand was injured at the end and UN amublance must bring them back to hospital

therefore saving life of soldure and get them our there to less mortality there is help of Un amublance is

I am sorry you do not not like it

it did not show they delivery or bring soldure to the scene
UN amublance know they are watch by UN satelit too and no proof to say they deliver soludre to the scene but they can bring and save their life
as they are there for this purpose

save the life!!!!

if you see 520 palestinina died and one from Isreali since they identify thenm and knowe where they are and you know in first days attack of Isreali they killed one senior of Hamas with his children the bascially all peace for Isreal to know who is the boss and idetntify their house and as soon as some one sneeze they will get
purpose to first attache the peace group house as they did killed hamas peace senior in his home too

in fairness if you say terrroirst and horro come to scared people saying i have power and i kill you if not listen to my order
and see number of palestinan died
real terrroist in area are isreali soludre now

do not scared of number who talk so much but die so much

always scared of person who never die easy and or less such as ONE solude and do not talk but they are less populated but kill more of you

taht is theory of terror is!!!and horror is!!!

I know I know you hate Muslim in generaland wish all Muslim die and enjoy seeing this scene

while that is not fair to us too
this time Isreali is finished time out they are out of this game

even hilry clinton and all New york jewish who paide 8 years for his senators and 8 years for his husband fees and 8 years to bush to keep this war open is finihsed even bring obama to sell his seat to Kennedy for better fees to Obama group can not stop them to not talk

tehy brough Kenddy to newyork to kick the as of all terrorist and discrimination in USA in fact

while what clinton got over fees is all president did that too no complain we cannot allow mrs.Clinton to follow her husband or new york to tell her what to do any more we must follow international law

tony Blair told isreal to cease fire and french president to palestinan both must do cease fire now soon today
noobdy care about that stupid bloody dusy garbage murderer LAND !!for tools tokill and open more horro to people any more

isrelai and palestinin must listen this time or international forces made them to listen
even it is without obama-dear clinton in the.blogs

New, I would love to respond to what you are writing, but unfortunately I cannot fully understand it. I would guess that you are saying that everyone in the world is evil except Muslims, but I am not sure.
As to your explanation in this letter about the ambulance, it's pure bull. You mean to tell me that it takes a dozen guys to take one Hamas terrorist to the hospital for a hurt finger?
It's even better than your earlier one about the abulance being jacked? What kind of degenerate would jack an abulance.
I have to agree with one of earlier comments that I do not believe your writing is as bad because you don't undersant. Some of your sentences are written to good. However, if that is the case,New, use a spell checker. It will at least make your comments understandible.

Many of these posts are extremely disturbing and offensive. Comments and pronouncements that paint ANY particular group as "vermin" or "animals" is strikingly similar to the way that the Nazi Germany state began its insidious campaign against the Jews of that era. How ironic that language of this sort is now tossed around "in support" of the Jewish people.

As far as the video goes, so what? Regardless of when this occurred and was filmed, are you so misguided as to believe that when gunfire and explosions are going off, that all people do whatever the hell they can to get away from it? What would YOU do? Add to that the fact that nobody even knows who was driving that vehicle....it could have been stolen for anyone knows.

If your knee-jerk reaction is to immediately take sides in disputes like the current one in Gaza, so be it - based on most of your comments it is simply an emotional stand that has little or no actual fact based foundation. You know what they say about opinions.

Both sides are brutal and the casualties are very real on both sides of the Gaza/Israel border. Whatever belief you have about "slanted" news coverage, any thinking person knows that bombs and bullets don't care what side you're on...they maim and kill indiscriminately. If you feel that ANYONE deserves that then I truly feel sorry for you. You are sad and pathetic. Bluntly stated, anyone who does not have the common sense to recognize that violence will never lead to peace is a fool.

Posted by: GDC at January 6, 2009 3:51 PM>

Wow, that was a lefty mouthful.

“you so misguided as to believe that when gunfire and explosions are going off, that all people do whatever the hell they can to get away from it? What would YOU do?”

These are NOT people – they are terrorist enemy combatants. They fight a terrorist war against unarmed civilians, and use their own unarmed civilians as weapons and shields, caring not for anyone but their own ideologies.

“anyone who does not have the common sense to recognize that violence will never lead to peace is a fool.”

Common sense and a little analytical thinking may lead you to the conclusion that almost everyone on this thread would agree with that statement! The point that seems to be lost on the left is that - it is the people who are firing rockets over a fence during an agreed ceasefire who need to understand and abide by that statement.

When a group of fanatics are trying to “wipe you off the face of the earth” and are killing their own children to achieve that end, you need to step up to the plate and defend your right to exist. This common sense philosophy is lost on the left, who even in the west are actively allowing their countries and cultures to be dominated by the same fanatical ideologies.

since you are so smart and muslim are
so stupid
could you
tell isreali to stop it
and do cease fire
that all we want now
nothing else need to anybody to say
iseali is not lisening for 40 years
can anybody come and tell them to
say any language
to let this bloody land of pelstina alone
and leave palstina alone and do cease fire

simple and two sentence left to tell them

://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=96308&videoChannel=1

://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=96325&videoChannel=1

://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=96317&videoChannel=1

://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=96305&videoChannel=1

://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=96502&videoChannel=1003
when you talk criminal taht is not call offensive language that is call it true fact langauge those BS deserve it

Anyone who knows me would definitely not describe me as a "lefty" so thank you for providing me with a measure of balance to my self-awareness :)

I speak not from the left, the right, or from any particular political bent. I speak only from my heart, which is grieved that the horrors of war continue to be visited upon anyone on this small planet.

Knight, I appreciate your response to my earlier post. I listen with genuine interest to all points of view on any subject, and I have no inner need to "be right" about anything. It is precisely the emotional stands and need to feel right that most often lead to disagreement and the potential of escalation to violence. I simply listen to the inner voice that has so far convinced me that the middle east is not "good guys" and "bad guys" like in a cowboy movie. If we were to call a spade a spade, there are no shortage of examples of atrocities by just about every participant in an armed conflict including Israel and including Canada for that matter.

But if you can convince me that I am way off base with my thoughts...that there is one side in this conflict that is pure good and one side that is pure evil, then please enlighten me.

Posted by: GDC at January 6, 2009 5:10 PM>

“But if you can convince me that I am way off base with my thoughts”.

Actually I don’t think you are. I was also not intending to place the argument of my point in the realm of political “right or left” although it easy to blur the lines intended or not. It was an attempt to associate the misplaced compassion and empathy normally associated with left brained thinking through emotion to the disproportional following of the so called “left” towards the Palestinian plight. The “right” tends to analyze problems more practically and analytically, thus coming across to others as unsympathetic, which is truly not the case.

No sane person likes war or death. The practicality of armed defense and sometimes harsh response to unreasonable armed opposing forces is simply a necessity in the real world, and has been since the dawn of civilization. We would all love to imagine a world without pain, suffering and war, but the reality is that it will never be achieved by laying down your arms against fanatical aggressors.

As I had mentioned in my earlier posts, I care not about the Israeli/ Palestinian conflict per say. I believe wholeheartedly that we should stay out of other countries affaires and focus on our own internal problems and thus strengthen our own defenses. It is hard to turn a blind eye to first world civilizations like ours (Israel) that are on the frontline of extermination by a totalitarian culture that is fully engaged in war with us on other fronts.

I'm sure the Hamasinistas were injured...or least had their feelings hurt.