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December 22, 2008

What Do You Call A $200 Million Cut To CBC Funding?

A good start.
"FRIENDS has learned from a reliable and confidential source of plans by the Harper Conservative party to slash a devastating 200 million dollars from the Parliamentary grant of the CBC. This would be a crippling and potentially fatal blow to the radio and television operations of an already weakened National Public broadcaster..."
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Non-partisan content from a recent non-partisan email from the Coalition-supporting-non-partisan Ian Morrison;
As you know, last week's economic update has provoked a political crisis in Ottawa with the three opposition parties announcing Monday that they are joining forces to defeat the Harper government and support a Liberal/NDP coalition until at least June 2010. It's worth noting that the Liberal/NDP "accord", which the Bloc has offered to support, specifically refers to two of our priorities:

1. "Both parties are committed to restoring the integrity, transparency and efficiency of the appointments process in the Public Service and in federal bodies like the Supreme Court, the Senate, and Commissions like the CRTC."
2. "Other Priorities to Stimulate the Economy: support for culture, including the cancellation of budget cuts announced by the Conservative government."


FRIENDS provides a page that allows you to send a message to your MP. After filling out the contact info, you'll be sent to a page in which they have thoughtfully provided the text for your email. They encourage you to customize it!

Here's mne.

Update - SDA gets results...

i just tried to send a message off but it says the campaign is now closed....laughing my ass off....kate rocks

GOD DAMNIT!!! They changed the form. You can no longer costomize it. When I tried to click on the message it sent the thing they wrote. With my f'ing name on it.


And now they've altered their form to prevent Canadians from writing their own messages - Screen shot. Looks like they were in a hurry - Kelly Block has apparently signed her own message on my behalf.

FRIENDS of Canadian Broadcasting seem somewhat reluctant to share a phone number on their website, but I found one elsewhere
Friends of Canadian Broadcasting
Mr. Ian Morrison
131 Bloor Street West,
Suite 200/238
Toronto, ON M5S 1R8

Telephone: 416-968-7496
Fax: 416-968-7406

At the moment they appear to be hiding behind an answering machine.

Heh - "Kate's post went up at 11:17 and the camapign was over by 11:57 as near as I can calculate. 40 minutes. Now that's action. I guess Mr. Morrison doesn't have as many "friends" as he thought."

Posted by Kate at December 22, 2008 11:17 AM
Comments

Thanks Kate, I just did the same.

Posted by: prairie dog at December 22, 2008 11:12 AM

Assuming it's even true.  This has all of the hallmarks of one of those famous "We've got insider info on the hidden agenda of those evil wicked mean and nasty Conservatives!"

Gotta inflame their support base, after all.  Even if it's by promulgating a story about funding cuts that, given the present hysteria in the Central Canadian MSM surrounding the CPC's "inflammatory" budgeting procedures which led to the "coalition crisis," is likely to be utterly false...

Posted by: Garth Wood at December 22, 2008 11:12 AM

I customized and sent one, too. I suggested they go the PBS route and have them funded by viewers.

I half suspect, though, that the superFRIENDS will intercept the message and replace my customized response with one that is more palatable to them.

I wonder if I can get the Honourable Mr. Flaherty to confirm to me what my e-mail said?

Posted by: Eeyore at December 22, 2008 11:16 AM

My MP has his office right next to mine so I know him quite well. I will make sure to tell him about this e-mail that he going to receive from me through FRIENDS. I will let you know if it says anything other than "I would like you to use your influence to make sure that cuts to the CBC continue until it either had to sink or swim on its own."

Posted by: a different bob at December 22, 2008 11:21 AM

I sent off a good message, too.

Their media is definitely their message. Their Liberal message. It needs to be stopped.

Posted by: Soccermom at December 22, 2008 11:21 AM

So every private media company in North America is slashing jobs and the CBC wants a raise?

Posted by: Fritz at December 22, 2008 11:23 AM

Mr Morrison say's in his statement that An Over Whelming Majority support the CBC!

Would that be the same Over welming majority that supports a Coalition Govt?

Posted by: bryanr at December 22, 2008 11:24 AM

hip hip hooray.

CBCpravda will start a Cry, Bi tch ,Complain marathon till the new year , then maybe start a funding marathon like PBS, using old Junior Forest Rangers , Razzle Dazzle, Beachcomber and whats that PEI thingy, oh yeah, The Wind up my Arse.

Posted by: cal2 at December 22, 2008 11:24 AM

I think the CPC should find the "reliable and confidential source" and fire his or her ass for divulging what are probably confidential decisions made by cabinet.

Of course, that would not be a portion of the report by reporters of the CBC who can see the spots at the trough getting smaller and smaller... I mean the only room left at the trough will be for Peter and a few select friends.

They should thank God (yes, I do mean God) for Hockey Night in Canada and Don Cherry, the only means of making real money left on the CBC!

Posted by: Dwayne at December 22, 2008 11:26 AM

$200 million hacked from the noble CBC budget? By the detestable Mr. Harper and his torch-waving rednecked villagers from Outer Slobovia? Hacked I say, with a rusty hatchet?

That's a good rumor. I like this rumor. :)

But as long as the torch-waving villagers are at the CBC gates, why not make it $500 million? Nice, round half billion Kanuckistanian rasbuckniks. The press loooooves round numbers.

Posted by: The Phantom at December 22, 2008 11:27 AM

That was fun.

Posted by: Alan at December 22, 2008 11:32 AM

My MP will be getting a message on this topic, but it won't be through the lens offered by the organization for which the oily-voiced Mr. Morrison is the spokesperson.

It will be to the effect that, if the cuts aren't intended to complete the demise of the CBC, then they should be directed where they will do the most good. A government owned media outlet has no business being in the news and public affairs business and that is where the cuts should be directed. In other words, keep classical music and Don Cherry and throw Peter and Kneel, Wendy and Hana under the bus.

Posted by: felis corpulentis at December 22, 2008 11:36 AM

This isn't the time to be timid. Bold moves are required. Cut the whole damn CBC subsidy! And don't forget to cut the $1.95 per vote while you're at it. Ho Ho Ho! Merry Christmas!! ;-)

Posted by: steve at December 22, 2008 11:36 AM

what great sport !...my testy request to my MP Mr.Sexton to further the dismantling of this nest of socialist vipers was very satisfying indeed.

Posted by: john begley at December 22, 2008 11:38 AM

Kate, since I'm the proverbial optimist, I sent this e-mail to Friends of the CBC:

Dear Mr. Morrison (friends@friends.ca),

At this time I am somewhat ambivalent about the CBC. I'm guessing that my views are similar to those of the majority of Canadians.

Can I ask you a sincere question? Would you support a petition based on a statement similar to this:

"We the undersigned believe that since the CBC is a public funded institution that it should reasonably reflect the views of all Canadians. As such, we respectfully request that an equal number of people with right-of-centre viewpoints be employed at the CBC as there are people with left-of-centre viewpoints. If this was done, then we would strongly encourage the government to dramatically increase the amount of funding for the CBC."

Once again, I assure you that my inquiry to you is sincere and genuine. I'm most curious about your thoughts.

Sincerely,

Robert W.
Vancouver, BC

- - - - - - - - -

I'll let you know if he responds!

Posted by: Robert W. at December 22, 2008 11:41 AM

I just sent one to my NPD MP. I am my it will get request will get his full attention! I am sure I will get a reply because I ended it with this:


"Please let me know what you are doing to make sure these cuts take place."

lol!

Posted by: PENG at December 22, 2008 11:44 AM

I did the same as PENG

Posted by: FREE at December 22, 2008 11:50 AM

why not contribute to the friends?

contribution amount: minus $1 billion CAD

Posted by: rzr at December 22, 2008 11:51 AM

I am glad they are losing $200 million. The two things on CBC that were worth something were the classical and jazz segments on the radio. But they have completely destroyed those.

So CBC can go to hell at this point.

Posted by: TJ at December 22, 2008 11:55 AM

Oh, no, Kate: "This campaign is now closed." See, Kate, your blog really can make a difference. (Unlike the CBC.)

Posted by: andycanuck at December 22, 2008 11:57 AM

i just tried to send a message off but it says the campaign is now closed....laughing my ass off....kate rocks

Posted by: stubby at December 22, 2008 11:57 AM

OK, they can cut everything. Except for the political panel on the National (admit it, we all watch it), Concerts On Demand (listen to the Christmas program from St. Paul's Montreal), the Vinyl Cafe, and Radio 2 in the mornings and late afternoons. I'm feeling kind of guilty about liking the CBC but Radio 2 in the mornings and late afternoons has the best music I've heard on the radio in years.

Oh yeah, and I love the Vinyl Cafe.

Am I a bad conservative?

Posted by: Peter Jay at December 22, 2008 11:58 AM

Once again SDA gets results. When I followed the link to the email form, I got this reply.

POLITICAL CRISIS: Invest in Culture for Economic Recovery
Thank-you very much for your dedication to Canadian culture, this campaign is now closed.

Must have been a pretty good response to close the campaign in the few minutes since your original post…

Posted by: PJ at December 22, 2008 12:02 PM

The Friends have a "Dalton Camp" award. That in itself is enough to alienate me.

Posted by: kakola at December 22, 2008 12:02 PM

GOD DAMNIT!!! They changed the form. You can no longer costomize it. When I tried to click on the message it sent the thing they wrote. With my f'ing name on it.

Now they'll think I support the trough-wallowing commies.

Somewhere, a troll is laughing at me. lol. Bugger off davison.

Posted by: Warwick at December 22, 2008 12:10 PM

I've just sent this message to Ian Morrison:

As a taxpayer, who virtually never hears my viewpoint expressed on the CBC, your little message has made my day! Another nail in CBC’s coffin would be a very fine Christmas present for me and the majority of stressed out taxpayers who do not support “our national broadcaster” and its stable of prima donnas.

Just what do you mean when you say that the overwhelming majority of Canadians support the CBC? Its audience share is minuscule—about 7%, I think. Obviously CBC’s Friends share its propensity for exaggeration and obfuscation. You claim to be non partisan. I noted your nice red tie. Would there be any among you who vote Conservative?

I have complained to the CBC Ombudsman for years (to no avail) about the CBC’s non stop political propaganda that I am forced to pay for. ’Remember, after the recent Heather Mallick fiasco, John Cruickshank actually ADMITTED that the CBC was not balanced? Then he said there would be a change. What change?

I’ve written the Prime Minister to say that if the rumour you’ve told us about is true, “Go for it!”

A Merry Christmas, Mr. Morrison.

Posted by: Concerned Canadian at December 22, 2008 12:12 PM

No,your not a bad conservative.I like vinyl cafe also.Listened to Arthur Black regularly.Arthurs gone and now,if I remember,still listen to vinyl cafe.McLean could do well on private radio also,maybe even better.The CBC is acting like the big three and the Eaton family.T Eaton and Company was a household word long before the CBC was thought of but the board forgot who made the company a household name and the CBC has also.

Posted by: spike 1 at December 22, 2008 12:13 PM

I say cut the subsidy to zero and sell off all of the hard assets, that'd be a good start to balancincing the budget, then maybe an across the board pay cut of ten percent for the entire civil service, ditto for all MP's and Senators and repeal the CHretien political party subsidy immediately.

Posted by: Bruce at December 22, 2008 12:14 PM

"i just tried to send a message off but it says the campaign is now closed....laughing my ass off....kate rocks"

Wow - I just got mine in under the wire - I wonder if they figured out that their "friends" weren't really their "friends"??? lol

Posted by: Alberta Girl at December 22, 2008 12:16 PM

I easily sent my message via the Contact Us link at the ABOUT US section at the web site.

At the now closed down !! site, I was uncomfortable with them having so much information about me, e.g., my street address, so I found an alternate way to give them a piece of my mind. Mr. Morrison is a worthy schill for the CBC: a dissembler who's absolutely full of himself.

(And, I'll bet he celebrates CHRISTMAS, but doesn't have the cojones to say it. I am SO tired of these limp-wristed pygmies!)

Posted by: Concerned Canadian at December 22, 2008 12:26 PM

I notice "friends" has a "donate" page. If they require donations to survive, why not the CBC.

Posted by: Ghost of Ed at December 22, 2008 12:26 PM

My only question is 'only $200 million'? Guess Coaches Corner will be moving to TSN along with the HNIC song.

Posted by: Phil at December 22, 2008 12:27 PM

Well folks, does anyone care to build our own auto-emailer?

Posted by: tuco at December 22, 2008 12:29 PM

I would worry that MP's may not read the comments and would assume that your letter is in favor of the CBC. Sort of a lump vote by header, which is a vote the other way, no?

Posted by: Knight 99 at December 22, 2008 12:33 PM

"As such, we respectfully request that an equal number of people with right-of-centre viewpoints be employed at the CBC as there are people with left-of-centre viewpoints."

As soon as you can demonstrate that an equal number of people share your right-of center viewpoints....

Your problem actually isn't with CBC content but rather, with reality.

Posted by: reality has a liberal bias at December 22, 2008 12:37 PM

Nooooooooooooo!!!

I crashed for an hour after I finished with the Goracles lastest wonderland treatment of my driveway and missed the opportunity to make use of the unaltered version.

Dag nabit!! (always wanted to type that)

Posted by: AtlanticJim at December 22, 2008 12:38 PM

Kate's post went up at 11:17 and the camapign was over by 11:57 as near as I can calculate.
40 minutes. Now that's action. I guess Mr. Morrison doesn't have as many "friends" as he thought.

Posted by: Ghost of Ed at December 22, 2008 12:42 PM

I actually can't bear The Vinyl Cafe: Stewart McLean's "uptalk"—every statement sounds like a question—is SO Valley Girl/CBC! (And so unnecessary . . . And bad English too!)

But, hey, it's a free country and conservatism's a big tent—unlike the kindergarten class that is the left: “Now everyone, do this. Now everyone, do that. AREN’T we wonderful?” As one of my favourite literary characters—NOT Dave and Morley!—would say, “Blah”!

Posted by: lookout at December 22, 2008 12:43 PM

Alas, another Internet security moat breeched.

Posted by: Shaken at December 22, 2008 12:44 PM

After numerous correspondences to the CBC Ombudsman over the disgusting Heather Mallick diatribe, CBC was scolded and instructed to hire more staff from the right side of the spectrum.
Any bets that this instruction to CBC by the Ombudsman will have to be put on hold during their soon to be funding shortfall?

Posted by: doowleb at December 22, 2008 12:50 PM

"We are not affiliated with any political party"-cbc talking head.

It can't be real, it has to be some comedy show doing a parody on cbc.

Posted by: Honey Pot at December 22, 2008 12:58 PM


Wrote to my MP and thanked them for at least thinking of cutting the CBC by $200 million. Told them not to stop there. Asked if and when they get a majority would they please privatise it and make this their first order of business and the second eliminate that $1.95 public funded subsity to the MPs thus also helping to eliminate the Bloc. Mentioned it only makes sense if we have to tighten our belts so should these Prima Donnas.

They listened to me the last time when I suggested they fill those senate seats before the coalition has a chance, maybe they will listen to me again. I sound like Taliban Jack and that red nosed Lib (whose name has conveniently slipped my memory; I'll take the credit. LOL

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all.

Posted by: dolly at December 22, 2008 1:06 PM

Dear Mr. Morrison -
I am a friend of beleaguered taxpayers.

CBC is welcome to take a haircut as the saying goes.
My wife and me, have already taken one in our supposed nest egg RRIf's, therefore CBC taking a cut seems only fair in my view.

Your Mr. Morrison appear to be a youngish fellow, so finding another job seems quite in order, as Friends of Broadcasting seems to be just another pimping organization looking after the Whore CBC.

Let the CBC fund its programming by subscription, sort of swim or bloody well sink into the oblivion they richly deserve.

Posted by: Joe Molnar at December 22, 2008 1:07 PM

I suspect this is BS and will be used to support the scary hidden agenda thing (as someone previously mentioned).

First, I absolutely support minimizing/removing the tax subsidy for the CBC. Any announced cuts however will be met with monumental hysteria (as we all know). To counter this, give the CBC a time period (say 5 years) to come up with a plan to be all or mostly self-sufficient. Reduce the funding on a sliding scale as we approach the 5th year. It won't eliminate the hysteria but it might make it easier to sell.

Posted by: SomeGuyinOttawa at December 22, 2008 1:11 PM

In Morrison's appeal, he mentioned "Harper's national Conservative government" If he was non-partisan as he claims, then why mention the word 'Conservative?' It should be enough that the 'government', regardless of political stripe, is threatening funding cuts.

Off topic, in this PC-age, is it okay for Environment Canada to say that Canada is going to have a 'white' Christmas from coast to coast? Somehow it doesn't seem inclusive enough! ;-)

SDA, Angry, Blazing Cat, Five Feet etc = Rise of the Machines!

Posted by: PhilM at December 22, 2008 1:11 PM

Did Ian use Steffi's camera man ?

Posted by: ggm at December 22, 2008 1:12 PM

Heh! I got my "customized" reply done within the 40 minute window, before the machine got shut down by the Kate-a-lanche, and the Ian Morrison robot e-mailer was kind enough to send me a .pdf copy of my missive. Now whether it also got automatically sent on to Kevin Sorenson, my MP for Crowfoot, is another question entirely.

I took much the same tack as Eeyore, suggesting CBC adopt the same business model as CKUA radio in Alberta.

I believe I will e-mail Mr. Sorenson directly, and ask of him if he did in fact receive my message via the "friends".

Posted by: gordinkneehill at December 22, 2008 1:13 PM

From this site:

http://www.friends.ca/About_Us/governance

e-mail contact for Ian Morrison:

friends@friends.ca

Posted by: BB at December 22, 2008 1:14 PM

"Update - SDA gets results.."

Really?
Do you think the Conservative Party of _____ (fill in the blank) will go into an election promoting the de-funding of the CBC? Perhaps this winning policy will increase the federal seat tally in Alberta, what's greater than 100%?

How goes the abortion fight? Is gay marriage still legal?

This is another facile effort by Small Dead Brains. Can’t you find an unscientific poll to manipulate, or does your dignity accrue these pyrrhic victories as they come?

Liberals must be absolutely giddy with your recent achievements, I know I am.

Posted by: joebaloni at December 22, 2008 1:31 PM

The aptly named joebaloni seems to be suffering a head explosion.

Dear joey, I suggested to my MP that the rumored $200 million cut was an outrage. It should be at least $500 million. Anything worth doing is worth doing right.

You're going to need a sponge to get that stuff off the walls there, joey. Better call your mum upstairs, eh?

Posted by: The Phantom at December 22, 2008 1:45 PM

NOW the're getting messages from Mickey Mouse in Hooterville.
HMMMMMMMM..

Posted by: eastern paul at December 22, 2008 1:47 PM

Cheering a possible $200m cut to CBC's annual funding is like cake. Yummy.

Compiling a list of suggestions WHERE those cuts should be applied is going to be icing on that cake.

Perhaps some web-savvy cheerleader could start an online list, you know - "Fiends of the CBC" or some such. All for eventual submission to the CBC, of course.

Suggestions:
Neil Macdonald
Heather Mallick
Sue Ormiston

Posted by: b_C at December 22, 2008 1:51 PM

This just in: Friends Of CBC Website "hacked"!

Posted by: Edward Teach at December 22, 2008 1:58 PM

Harper doesn’t need to waste political clout on the CBC, it will die a natural death.

The digital era in the US has opened new doors for the traditional broadcaster. The Multi-casting of standard definition programming using the Hi-Def spectrum "may" result in >16 programs per broadcasting station. That would more than allow ALL the Sports packages, produced by Network, to be broadcast by a single affiliate. Think NFL Sunday Ticket.

The Cable advantage will diminish & new programming ideas will be enabled.

I guess the CRTC may prevent Canada from taking part (liberal traditional graft) & its not clear how far the FCC will go but starting in Feb we have 4 (four) multi-casting Channels, per Broadcaster, approved.

Posted by: Phillip G. Shaw at December 22, 2008 2:05 PM

Oh look, financial statements:
http://www.friends.ca/About_Us/contribution

http://www.friends.ca/files/PDF/FCB-FS07.pdf

Posted by: Stan at December 22, 2008 2:36 PM

I have asked this question before and would like your feedback.

Do the posters here actually get any responses from the Conservative party or its staff, MPs etc.? I have emailed, mailed, voice mailed questions to MPs like Jason Kenney, Flaherty and Day, spoken personally to his staff and used the contact on their webpage and have never received a response!

As I live in Toronto I have no Conservative MP but my Liberal one responds to my emails as does the NDP party.

I get bombarded with funding requests and always send the letters back, though I am a party member, saying nothing further until I get a response in some format...crickets.

What say you?

Posted by: Dave at December 22, 2008 2:45 PM

Phillip, CBC would have died a natural death were it not for the fact that they have been receiving a free nine-hundred million a year out of our taxes. Because they have guaranteed revenue, rating, or competition, are non-issues. And there's been no repercussions to their constant campaigning against the Conservatives and, by extension, conservative Canadians.

To the Friends of CBC, even a recession is no argument against this waste of money. Ian Morrison says "These are extraordinary times. Our national political scene is unstable, and our economy has slipped into a recession...." This, in defense of spending billions on an LPC-promotion network that insults Conservative voters non-stop, coast-to-coast on their own dime.

Posted by: EBD at December 22, 2008 2:48 PM

hey joe! where you goin with that baloni in your hand? i enjoyed your message; it was positively, er, giddy

Posted by: rzr at December 22, 2008 2:50 PM

lookout: I actually can't bear The Vinyl Cafe: Stewart McLean's "uptalk"—every statement sounds like a question—is SO Valley Girl

Most interesting. Like, I was just thinking about how much Julie Nasrallah (sp?) with her 5-hour classical music show (10-3) is, like, SO not enjoyable with her studied valley-speak.
And this Rich Stirfry at 3pm with his studied dropped-r faux-folksiness drives me nuts too; the new meme seems to be: let's be as amateur sounding as possible and/or let's be hip. Chic proletarian?

TIP: In my car, I've got CBC2 on button 1 and the French on button 2, to which I switch as soon as Stirfry gets a cookin'. There you will get adult men with deep voices and Parisian accents spinning very tasty classic jazz.

Vinyl Cafe? Is that the guy who does the Jimmy Stewart impression? If so, he drives me nuts too.

Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at December 22, 2008 3:03 PM

Vinyl Cafe with a plastic host.

Posted by: Ghost of Ed at December 22, 2008 3:14 PM

MND, yes, he's the Jimmy Stewart/Garrison Keillor wannabe? (Hey, now I'm doing it too?)

Julie Nesrallah: I so agree? I wrote some emails to the CBC blog site* about their dumb new programming and said some nasty things about her Valley Girl impersonation. And, DID you know that her favourite time of the day is LUNCH? Who the heck cares. I never listen to stir-fry . . . If I knew how to program my car radio--maybe my husband can do it!--I'd try the French jazz.

*In the first week after CBC 2 ruined its programming, it got over 1000 hits--about 98% just furious about the changes. I'll bet just about no one goes to their site now. What full of themselves losers. Do they care? NO!

A very Merry Christmas to everyone here!

Posted by: lookout at December 22, 2008 3:16 PM

I agree with Me No Dhimmi,

I prefer radio for us regular folk, like Newstalk 650 where they tell us the weather every 2 minutes, or C95 where we can here the latest news on Paris Hilton, or hot 93 where i can here some fine country music. I don't need none of that big city radio with jazz and classical music. That's queer music. Yup, I don't need to open my mind up to new things i prefer the same old mindless drivel.......I guess why I love this website so much.

Posted by: cbailey at December 22, 2008 3:41 PM

Dave,

After that Polish guy got tased to death in Vancouver, I sent Stockwell Day an email. He responded in just a few days, with what I thought was a brush-off about having to wait for the inquiry. However, after the inquiry was finished, without any prompting from me, I received a 2 page email from Mr. Day laying out in some detail the official summary. I still think the results were unsatisfactory, but I can't fault him for his responsiveness. I'm sure it was a staffer who wrote it, but I guess that means he's trained his troops well.

Posted by: KevinB at December 22, 2008 3:43 PM

Now, if CBC went the way of PBS and asked for donations, I'd probably send some money their way, provided they showed anything worth watching. Heck, even reruns of The Junior Forest Rangers. Has Joe Two Rivers worked since then or is he up in CBC's executive floor?

Posted by: Texas Canuck at December 22, 2008 4:00 PM

Thanks Kevin, maybe I will have to shower more often to get a response.

Posted by: Dave at December 22, 2008 4:08 PM

200 million cut, it's a start.

Posted by: Western Canadian at December 22, 2008 4:10 PM

morrison, a disgrace to the clan.

Posted by: old white guy at December 22, 2008 4:17 PM

Speaking of CBC Radios 1&2, one evening last week I got a phone call from BBM conducting a survey of Ottawa-area radio listening habits. After we went through the list of available stations and I related my listening habits (CFRA most of the day, can barely receive it after sundown - thanks CRTC - every French station in the Ottawa Valley comes in loud and clear 24/7, however), they came to the point and I'm guessing the true purpose of the survey. Did I ever listen to CBC Radios 1&2? I mentioned that I did occasionally on Galaxie (satellite TV), but couldn't stand the boring chit-chat. If I want to listen to classical music, there are several Galaxie channels and I don't have to listen to some pretentious bore.

Posted by: Skeptic at December 22, 2008 4:23 PM

One other thought, watch for them to cut one of the most popular programs they have, what ever that is on CBC, so there will be a flood of protest. An old tried and true method to stir up the natives and muster support against this dastardly deed by the Conservatives.

Posted by: Western Canadian at December 22, 2008 4:23 PM

CBC has a small and diminishing audience, but until recently, much of it was a loyal audience. Then came the programming changes at Radio 2. Along with the loss of much of the classical and jazz programming came a "new wave" of simply silly hosts.

Most of the formerly loyal audience that I know are now saying things such as: "Why would I complain if the government decides to throw CBC under the bus? After all, CBC just threw its most loyal audience under the bus."

Yes, the little things that once provided a small recompense for tolerating Peter and the rest of the prima donna cultural marxist clan are gone. They did it to themselves, folks; they alienated the few listeners who might have defended them. Well, other than the coalition of weasels, who probably started this rumour in the first place.

Posted by: felis corpulentis at December 22, 2008 4:38 PM

I have a crappy MP when it comes to answering my emails.

I have sent her 3 or 4 over time to express myself about whatever it was. Never once got a response. Not once. She does hold town halls 5 or 6 times a year, but she or her staff should take the time to at least send a thank you email.

Posted by: Aizlynne at December 22, 2008 4:38 PM

Jeopardy was a 7:30pm staple at my house.
Now all Jeopardy shows are from a CBC feed, no matter what channel you watch on Rogers cable.
CBC purchased the show for millions, even though it was available free to all Canadians before that.
The first two times I tuned in, I got the obligatory CBC lefty talking head lying to me during the commercial.
Sigh, I no longer watch Jeopardy.

Posted by: doowleb at December 22, 2008 4:44 PM

"One other thought, watch for them to cut one of the most popular programs they have, what ever that is on CBC, so there will be a flood of protest." - Western Canadian

They have popular programs? I mean, other than hockey.

Posted by: Phil at December 22, 2008 5:49 PM

I get Jeopardy from some CBC outlet in Peterborough, wherever that might be, and I just mute the commercials. I think most of them are for local businesses anyway, so they would mean nothing to me.
I agree that CBC should raise their funding through public donations in the same way that PBS does. I probably would not contribute since, except for Jeopardy I do not watch TV (I only have cable because my wife watches the nature shows). I didn't even watch the Grey Cup this year since I was not subscribed to the tier that carried the game, (CBC copped out on that one).

Posted by: itlog98 at December 22, 2008 5:54 PM

CBC radio.
You may already know this, but if not:
Check out cbc.ca/radio, see, New at Radio 2.
They've got 4 new internet music streams running with zero chit-chat.

Classical / Jazz / Canadian songwriters / Canadian composers [mostly avant garde I think].

You need only bookmark one. When on that site there's a handy switcheroo thingy "Select Channel" to go to one of the other streams.

Excellent. Dialogue box shows composer, title, artist, label, disk # for selection now playing.

Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at December 22, 2008 5:55 PM

I dont allow CBC in my home.

Posted by: FREE at December 22, 2008 6:21 PM

"They have popular programs? I mean, other than hockey."

We don't even watch hockey on CBC, or anywhere else for that matter. The only reason to turn on CBC is Doctor Who.

Posted by: Kathryn at December 22, 2008 6:21 PM

Not watching Jeopardy because its on a CBC feed is pretty hard core. I have the same problem, that its CBC no matter what channel I watch it on.

I used to listen to CBC radio in the morning on my way to work because it is commercial free. I eventually stopped because my blood pressure couldn't take it. I now listen to John Oakley on 640 AM Toronto, or Bill Carrel on 1010am Toronto. Oakley is a dude.

Posted by: minuteman at December 22, 2008 6:34 PM

What Do You Call A $200 Million Cut To CBC Funding?

Not Enough.

Posted by: Revnant Dream at December 22, 2008 7:12 PM

Warwick said, "Now they'll think I support the trough-wallowing commies."

No problem, just be sure to send your MP a real e-mail telling your real intent. It will helpful in establishing the credibility of all the other e-mails.

Posted by: pete e at December 22, 2008 7:18 PM

If the Snear Bee Snear wants to keep it's funding, then get real and give honest media coverage.

Not the leftard bull Sh#t they produce now.

Tjat sum should be just a start, I can see some budget savings already.

Posted by: robins111 at December 22, 2008 7:41 PM

The Mike Duffy vs: the John Liberal-Hack Duffy moment: (tried and tried to find the video - must have been too embarrassing for CTV's "opened journalism" !

[ An act designed to destroy their political opponents has somewhat backfired into their faces making them look desperate and mean spirited.

What's worse is that we now have a Duffy vs. Duffy moment here... What I'm talking about is a confrontation that happened between legendary CTV election reporter Mike Duffy, and the Paul Martin's right hand man John Duffy over The Ad That Never Ran TM.

"You were in here earlier when we were off the air on a commercial break trying to intimidate me into not going back to that ad," said Mike Duffy, his voice rising in indignation. "We will not be intimidated. We will do our jobs as journalists."(link)(video)(via)

Mike Duffy is said to be a Liberal supporter, and was once in line towards an appointment by the Liberal Prime Minister into the Senate. I've never seen a moment like that on Canadian TV before. Mike was steaming mad. If there is one political lesson the Liberals should take from this is never tick off Mike Duffy.] Backoffgov.com

Posted by: ron in kelowna at December 22, 2008 7:43 PM

First off .. wgy stop at $200 million?

Second ... Friends of Canadian Brodacsting The CBC .... are probably feeling a lot like Olivia Ciao today .... will the there be a report of conservative "hacking" of their email system

Waiting...................

Posted by: Mom's Watching at December 22, 2008 7:51 PM

Dave - I've sent two e-mails to my Conservative MP. John Duncan. The first one was answered personally by him and the second by a staffer indicating my mail had been passed on to him.

Regarding the CBC, it most definitely should be restricted to services where there is no commercially viable competition, like the high Arctic.

Posted by: DaveCF at December 22, 2008 8:02 PM

That'll teach me to not read the updates first. I had to look up Brad Trost on google so I could send him a retraction. Cut all the funding. I wished him a merry Christmas too, so there.

Posted by: Paulie at December 22, 2008 8:03 PM

A lot of comments on this thread with respect to the quality of the programing, which is missing the point. It doesn't matter if you like the shows or not, you are FORCED to pay for them. If you like them, and enough other people do too, the programs will be made for another network. If there are not enough fanx, then why should it be done with tax dollars?

Posted by: Weasel Farmer at December 22, 2008 8:13 PM

A lot of comments on this thread with respect to the quality of the programing, which is missing the point. It doesn't matter if you like the shows or not, you are FORCED to pay for them. If you like them, and enough other people do too, the programs will be made for another network. If there are not enough fanx, then why should it be done with tax dollars?

Posted by: Weasel Farmer at December 22, 2008 8:13 PM

1: Sorry for the double post, dial up issues.

2: DaveCF: what have you got against the high arctic???

Posted by: Weasel Farmer at December 22, 2008 8:16 PM

Sudbury has a great morning radio show, Morning North. Very popular, very in tune with the community, and non-partisan. I enjoy it.
Anything coming out of Toronto CBC can be chopped.

Posted by: bluetech at December 22, 2008 8:17 PM

So the tits are doing fine, but the asses seem to be faltering.

Posted by: Woodporter at December 22, 2008 8:34 PM

I didn't rely on the FOC to do it for me. I googled my local, Liberal, MP's e-mail address and sent him this:

The Friends of the CBC have informed me that the Harper Government is going to reduce the budget of the CBC by roughly 20%; $200 million.

I write you to encourage this, and demand even further cuts, as I do not want to pay for people to watch TV. I do not watch CBC and should not be forced to pay for it.

Obviously, various identifying bits of this e-mail have been edited out; but, you should always be public in your e-mails to MPs. Anonymous is ignored.


Posted by: RW at December 22, 2008 8:39 PM

So, I called the number and left a message to the effect that the FOCers should campaign to buy the CBC from the feds for one (1) dollar and run it themselves; and I would support their campaign. Then, they get what they want, and I don't have to pay for it any more.

Seems reasonable to me. If the FOCers want to have the CBC, let them have it.

Margaret Blatwurst can have her own nightly for all I care. At least we won't get any more CBC GGs.

Posted by: RW at December 22, 2008 8:49 PM

Hey, I terminated my TV feeds. Full stop. $90 per month for stuff I didn't want. Senseless. I listen to the radio. The only CBC show I listen to is teh Saturday Morning Politics Now, which even is becoming tiresome; probably will stop.

The pro-liberal establishment crap this channel exudes is indefensible; it would only be allowed in countries like the UK and USA, as government channels. (Oh, so tghey are).

Let them eat rice or earn bucks; no more of tax payers' money for them.

CBC for the FOCers!

Posted by: RW at December 22, 2008 9:05 PM

Yahooo!! Now how 'bout those damned Human Rights Commissions.

Go Harper!!

Posted by: Louise at December 22, 2008 9:09 PM

Weasel Farmer, you hit the nail on the head. CBC does have good programs. Those who oppose privatization seem to think CBC would sink into oblivion. I don't happen to think they would. The only thing that would happen is they would be forced to provide programming that people actually want to watch and, like you say, people who have no use for them wouldn't be forced to pay for any of it.

All Hail the Harper Government!!!!

Posted by: Louise at December 22, 2008 9:43 PM

Here in Ontario we have both the CBC and TVO, a public broadcaster funded by the provincial government. (Oh, and TFO, its French twin.) This has always seemed like redundancy. And here's the thing - TVO is turning out to be the better channel, at a fraction of CBC's budget. They don't purchase U.S. programming to simulcast, and don't have commercials.

How, precisely, did this happen?

Posted by: rick mcginnis at December 22, 2008 11:03 PM

It's not just that the CBC's programming is consumed by less than 2% of the population, it's the bloody fact that they have never been audited independently. Who the hell knows where that $1.1 billion goes every year. Let's look at the CBC's management structure. Let's look at their business partners and dealings. It's not just the 5 star lifestyle and $1 million bonuses at Christmas time (divided by less than 8 deserving senior managers) or even the political patronage or liberal bias, it's $1.1 billion plus additional revenues which go who knows where. No accountability + no viewers = no more money. The CBC has become a bloated bureaucracy which exists to launder tax dollars while defeating conservative ideology. Shut it down.

Posted by: Neil at December 23, 2008 12:14 AM

Just checked my old hotmail account, and have a nice thank you note from "Friends of CBC". They even attached a copy of my note, which they obviously didn't read. They asked for a donation. I'm guessing this was as much an exercise in fundraising as a campaign to support the CBC.

Why does the CBC need a support group anyway? I can understand why PBS has a "friends of" group, since they rely on public funding. The CBC gets every penny from the government. This group is obviously some kind of scam.

One more thing, since I responded to this request I've been having a few glitches with my laptop. I hope this wasn't some sort of ambush.

Posted by: dp at December 23, 2008 12:50 AM

For people who say they dislike the cbc...you sure seem to know a lot about it? I haven't owned a television set in more than 15 years. Don't have a clue what cbc tv is about and don't care. What I do care about is having to support the corpse with my taxes. I have an internet radio, xm sat radio and listen to private broadcasters on terresterial radio. I think morrison was fear mongering, making sure the cbc wasn't touched in the January budget. After what happened to Harper in the Oct election he has no appetite to cut cultural subsidys.

Posted by: dodger at December 23, 2008 1:20 AM

For people who say they dislike the cbc...you sure seem to know a lot about it? I haven't owned a television set in more than 15 years. Don't have a clue what cbc tv is about and don't care. What I do care about is having to support the corpse with my taxes. I have an internet radio, xm sat radio and listen to private broadcasters on terresterial radio. I think morrison was fear mongering, making sure the cbc wasn't touched in the January budget. After what happened to Harper in the Oct election he has no appetite to cut cultural subsidys.

Posted by: dodger at December 23, 2008 1:27 AM

The new name for CBC- "Cut Backs Coming"

Posted by: trucman at December 23, 2008 1:41 AM

Imagine my outrage when CBC cancelled the somewhat successful series 'Street Legal'! There went my weekly fix of Cindy Dale's legs. lol. Shut the whole damn thing down.


Posted by: PhilM at December 23, 2008 7:29 AM

dodger, I listen to CBC 2 for the classical music—that's all these days. But the news is on once an hour, so I still hear the all Liberal, all the time propaganda. On the internet, I also watched Peter Mansbridge’s interview (more like an interrogation) with PMSH. I then put in a(nother) complaint to the CBC Ombudsman—just for a paper trail, as the CBC thinks it can do no wrong. (When the CBC news gets its comeuppance, there will definitely be plenty of evidence of their bias on hand.)

It’s called “Know thy enemy.”

Posted by: lookout at December 23, 2008 8:02 AM

You know guys, I hate to say it but not only don't I listen to CBC, I don't even listen to radio anymore. I put the collection on random play and have Phantom FM right there. Radio is CRAP and has been since like 1989. I pine for the old Spirit of Radio days on CFNY.

On TV I pretty much watch Discovery channel, I tape four science fiction shows and blip through the commercials. That's about it. Rent the odd DVD now and again.

The thing is, I can't stand to watch the tube anymore. It isn't just puerile, it isn't just boring, it actively offends me. All propaganda, all the time. Idiots, the lot of them.

Small wonder they are all going bankrupt. Faster please!

Posted by: The Phantom at December 23, 2008 9:09 AM

dp: "Why does the CBC need a support group anyway?"

From the list of Board Members of the Friends of the CBC on past letterheads of the organization, I think the answer to your question is purely self-interest on their parts.

Most of them benefit or have benefited from exposure on the CBC and if the CBC didn't exist it's hard to imatgine what other network would take them seriously.

It's a case of I'll scratch your back if you'll scratch mine, all within a small coterie of Canadian elites who live side by side, party at one another's homes, and cottage together.

SPARE. US. GET. RID. OF. THEM. ALL. NOT. ONE. MORE. RED. CENT. TO. THE. CBC.

Posted by: batb at December 23, 2008 9:16 AM

CTV had to cut programming, including 'Canadian Idol.'

On the other hand, the CBC believes that it has a right to be comfortably cushioned by taxpayer dollars against a downturn in the economy, as well as audience and advertising revenue, because it's a Canadian institution representing us all.

I'd love to see them further justify their existence with actual programming:

"If we don't get the funding, we'll be forced to cancel Canadian favourites such as 'Little Mosque on the Prairie.'"

The horror! The outrage!

Posted by: irwin daisy at December 23, 2008 12:44 PM

The CBC is at it again - things are relatively calm in Afghanistan, so it must be time to malign the good work that NATO is doing - oh wait, on cue comes:

'Abusive Coalition Raids'.... http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/12/23/afghan-report.html

Posted by: junior at December 23, 2008 1:49 PM

It's too bad the CBC was soooo busy reporting on NATO's failures that they didn't have time to let us in on the report on the Taliban's abuses here:

http://www.aihrc.org.af/2008_Dec/PDF_Anti_G/Eng_anti_G.pdf

Posted by: BAR in Kemptville at December 23, 2008 3:16 PM

The CBC's days of pro-Israel propaganda may be running down, and with CanWest global slowly dying off, perhaps there can emerge a truth-telling media, not under the thumb of globalists or warmongering Israel-first UberKikes?

Posted by: anarchore at December 23, 2008 3:47 PM

PS: Go to hell, all you braindead circumcised UberKike/globalist-loving retards whether you call yourself a Con or Lib, you are shit. What a glorious event, the economic crash is! Your corrupt society is going straight down. I hope it keeps you up at night, and Oh yeah Talmud Harper won't save you, neither will Talmud Ignatieff. The plutocracy is going down, and you with lips vapourlocked on it are going down with it! Hallelujah!

Posted by: anarchore at December 23, 2008 4:07 PM

The CBC should be forced to sell their majority stake in Sirius Satellite Radio Canada, rumour has it that it is filled with Liberal hacks, it is also not required to disclose financials as it is private company. Somebody should ask former Liberal MP Karen Redman about this, but she would probably use the time tested Liberal response of, "I know nothing."

Posted by: Bruce at December 23, 2008 6:54 PM

The problem with cutting back the CBC is that the rest of Canadian radio is so bloody awful! The current trend of featuring "two nitwits prattling on and on" is everywhere, and content is zero. I wouldn't mind CBC cuts if there were something else to listen to. In Vancouver, we don't even have a Christian radio station, but we have 24x7 Sikh and Chinese broadcasting, a Marxist-Leninist co-op radio station, and about a dozen "soft rock" stations. These days I listen to CBC out of desperation. It's all that we have left.

Posted by: Larsen E Whipsnade at December 24, 2008 11:41 AM

Don Cherry reminded viewers during HNIC not to forget that Christmas was baby Jesus's birthday.He said it with such conviction that it seemed to be aimed at more than just the viewership,CBC executives heads exploding?

Posted by: h.ryan at December 25, 2008 1:16 PM
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