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with tony rezko cozying back up to federal prosecutors...
i imagine saint barack is doing all the prayin he can
these days.

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There's a preacher in Chicago, well actually under a bus in Chicago, who is going to be really, really pissed off at not being selected by The Chosen One to say the Inaugural Prayer.

Wonder what he'll do ?

I heard about this as well on Fox News and CNN (either last night or earlier today).

I think that it is becoming clear that Obama is not an ideologue. He is appointing guys that really make sense from a left centre to dead centre point of view (his picks for defense/security are almost right wing; Clinton for SoS is pretty conservative).

He may actually be very smart and is reaching out to all Americans and bypassing these nutty idiots.

You can please some of the people, some of the time; but you can't please all of the people all of the time.

I think Obama realizes that the best thing he can do to improve the image of black people in the U.S. is to have a successful presidency. I am cautiously (very cautiously) optimistic.

Obamanation: Change that stays the Same!

Obama was pretty open about going to church and whatnot, It's the radical left that made him into some sort of godless saviour.

I am spitballing these statis-dicks, but didn't 96% of blacks vote for Obama and didn't 75% of blacks vote against gay marriage in California?
Add up the black votes and subtract the gay votes and the total comes to throw the gays under the bus. Bummer.

Even funnier is watching Andrew Sullivan rationalize this.

To be clear I don't care either way, but knowing full well how Sullivan would have reacted if this was McCain's innaugeration makes me laugh.

"...an insult to all the queers and non-believers"

And I should care because...?

I think THEY'RE the insult...an insult to the human race and to God!

The left may be visible and vocal in the US but the majority of Americans are centrists. Obama is now campaigning for re-election in 2012; he's setting up a centrist administration.

Edward, please tell me you're joking.

Dang, I was hoping for some good old-fashioned Jeremiah Wright slapstick comedy at the inauguration. He has some good lines, "America's chickens are commmmmmin' home......to rooost". Can't beat that!

Not that I was planning on watching anyway...

The great Rev. Jesse (cut his nuts off) Jackson would also have been a good comedic choice.

I thought the blogger's commentary was particularly insightful vis a vis liberals. The only crime a liberal can commit in the eyes of other liberals is to not be liberal enough. Thus liberals defend the most egregious offences by other liberals provided they advance/espouse the liberal agenda/catechism. If a liberal questions or renegs upon that agenda however, watch out!

Definition: in-ev-i-ta-ble

–adjective
1. unable to be avoided, evaded, or escaped; certain; necessary: an inevitable conclusion.
2. sure to occur, happen, or come; unalterable.
See gay rights/marriage

It is absolutely hilarious witnessing the death throes of your bigotry

I can't see how Rick Warren can give the invocation with Obama's stand on abortion, considering Warren is anti-abortion. Perhaps he will do a lot of praying for Obama, so he will see the light.

"I think THEY'RE the insult...an insult to the human race and to God!

Posted by: Edward Teach at December 18, 2008 12:24 PM"

I am an insult to some diety I have no belief exists?

SCORE!!!

I think THEY'RE the insult...an insult to the human race and to God!

Posted by: Edward Teach at December 18, 2008 12:24 PM"

Me thinks thou doth protest too much.

I think you left your white hood in the Minneapolis airport bathroom.

Joanne:

Do you mean that Warren is pro life?

That would be consistent with Christian teaching, which believes in the sanctity of human life.

On more than one occasion during the presidential campaign, I heard Obama stress the importance of personal responsibility.

The loony left is not going to like this and it will finally click in that their philosophy clashes with Obama's message of personal responsibility.

Of course, the hatred will eventually be on him because he betrayed their expectations.

Problem is that when Obama promised ‘change,' the loonies figured it was a call for less personal responsibility.

This is unfolding pretty much the way I figured.

Personally, I believe that the bigotry against homosexuals is irrational and uncalled for. No one needs to care what other people are doing in their private life and home. If you disapprove of homosexuals, don't marry one. What difference does it make to your life if someone else does?

However in this case, it does seem appropriate that Obama would backstab the left after all the lies and propaganda of the leftards and other journalists and the efforts of the latte-swilling, hypocrite "elites" to get "their" guy elected.

After the most atrocious campaign of deceit and manipulation in US history, their guy isn't their guy when it matters. It looks good on the left to see them double-crossed.

And Paul Volker was an inspired choice. Reagan's guy in Obama's circle. Life is good.

One of the most effective ways for a minority to force their agenda on the majority is to control the conversation. Branding your opponent as bigots, racists or sexists while labeling oneself as a progressive is currently all the rage.

The anti-gay marriage goal is to simply maintain the definition of marriage as a union between one man and one woman as per the longstanding tradition currently accepted by the Judeo-Christian cultural. The goal is not to insult any group. The goal is not to deny any legal rights to any group.

If a person supports and works to maintain the traditional Judeo-Christian definition of marriage she is branded as a bigot. If a person wants to destroy the Judeo-Christian definition of marriage against the wishes of the overwhelming majority of Canadians he is branded a “progressive”.

If you really want to know which party is the bully in this matter it is interesting to note that the overwhelming majority of Americans are okay with civil unions for gays. Civil unions would give gays pretty much everything except the pleasure of debasing and demeaning the use of the word “marriage” for Judeo-Christian heterosexuals.

The irony is that gays and Obama have both branded themselves as “progressives” so by throwing the gays under the bus Obama will get more centrist votes and the gays will still vote for Obama since he is a “progressive” just like them. Obama's advisors may be many things but stupid is not one of them! Rahm you beautiful (manipulative) bastard!

Of course at the end of the day what difference does it make? This whole thing is stoopid stoopid stoopid!
To a non-believer or a queer, what difference would it make who makes what supplication to a being that they don't believe in or follow?
Personally I don't think God will be listening in any case. I mean what has he to do with the election of Obama? It doesn't concern him one way or the other...if it was his will, he wouldn't have entrusted the outcome to a fickle electorate, and if it wasn't his will then we'd all be asking "Obama who?"
This one rates a colossal meh...

If anyone is paying attention to those economists who have been bang on about the US economy, they are forecasting absolute disaster with Obama.

The only question really at this point is how fast he will create hyper inflation and a collapse of the American dollar.

If I were an American I would be taking out every penny I had in the bank and convert it to either gold or silver or invest it in Canada or overseas.

I am glad that Harper has been creating trade opportunities with other countries (France the most recent). We will need them when the US collapses under it's own spending.

I am spitballing these statis-dicks, but didn't 96% of blacks vote for Obama and didn't 75% of blacks vote against gay marriage in California?

Exactly. You build your career on identity politics, eventually you get eaten by identity politics.

I think THEY'RE the insult...an insult to the human race and to God!

This clown will be one of the first out of the blocks to shriek about "Christian bashing" when somebody professes their disbelief. Aren't they always?

Yawnnnnnnn

AtlanticJim at December 18, 2008 1:16 PM

:) High five!

EyesWideShut at December 18, 2008 1:45 PM

"If a person supports and works to maintain the traditional Judeo-Christian definition of marriage she is branded as a bigot."

No! Say it aint so! Next thing you'll be telling me is that people who drink a lot are branded alcoholics ....

For a bunch of wahoos who see everything as a mixing of church and state, I find it funny the leftoids are complaining about the person doing the invocation and not the act itself.

re: "Humanity is inexorably progressive"

Ha ha hahahahaha!

HA HA HA ha HA!

HA!

Ok I'm done.

ET and others: I think he's setting up the appearance of a centrist administration while going hard left at the mid bureaucratic level where stuff gets done. Members of the Weather Underground have also made this observation in an attempt chill out the disappointed radicals.

Obama's Legal Left Brain Trust

He is NOT moving to the centre.

When I read the moonbats comments on the thread linked, I was very amused. The vitriol they were spewing is usually reserved for Bush, Cheney or Palin! I certainly didn't expect the left to turn this fast on His Wondermentness (tm) !

K Stricker

What's so funny? After all, if I walk to the can to take a crap I've "progressed" to the facilities.

Progressive just means you're goin somewhere...

My goodness, we won't get to hear "God Damn America!" from Rev. Wright at the Coronation of The One?! I'm crushed! /sarc

There's nothing like Leftoids to eat their own.

Warwick,

That's just it, I was laughing at the meaninglessness of that particular platitude.

All the left's buzzwords are meaningless.

Bastardizing the language is how they make unsaleable ideas sound reasonable.

...And the fact that if one is to believe Mark Steyn 'tolerance' is going to be the downfall of 'progressiveness' (in the form of the word I'm sure the OP intended).

I guess Barak wasn't vetted properly. Apparently some people didn't know he is a Christian.

I have wondered for a long time now how long the left can feint solidarity. I believe the actual people who fall into these identifiable groups are oblivious to the inevitable conflict their ideals have them headed towards. They have been duped by their own lobbying groups into believing they share values and experiences (you know discrimination), all the while not recognizing the people they cheer with at political rallies are those very same people who discriminate against them. It's all slight of hand if you ask me, they tell you to "look behind you, it's the boogie-man" and while you do they stab you in the back.

Every politician is "centrist" by neccessity of the populace.

I don't know how many people are familiar with Cultural Marxism and the tool of "repressive tolerance," but it is a Marxist social-manipulating technique of moving the masses to the political left. (It allows movement to the left, but allows no tolerance to the right - thus, tolerance for gays, but no tolerance for religious teaching on homosexuality).

The middle ALWAYS becomes the mainstream. It is a fairly common brainwashing technique which was developed by the Communists & used as far back as the Korean War. (It plays on people's natural tendency to want to be like most other people).

Even have a look in Canada.

Back in the 60's, the NDP was "left," the Liberals were "centrist" and the Constervatives were "right."

When Trudeau the Treacherous Traitor jumped ship from the NDP to the Liberals, and then ousted centrist Paul Martin Sr. for the leadership, Trudeau moved the Liberals WAYYYYYY to the left (where the NDP once was). The NDP then moved further left, and the Conservatives eventually moved to the centre.

Now we have the NDP (FAR left), the Liberals (left), and the Conservatives (Centrist). The "right" is completely vacant.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that this bus only steers straight ahead or to the left. That means that given time (years/decades), there is NO OTHER PLACE to steer but left. And we all know the gulag at the end of that road, eh?

If the "right" wants to move things further back to the right, what they need to do is create a party of wacked out loonie-tune rightists - this will the bring the "centrist Conservatives" further to the right.

Whoever is the furthest to the left or right is always the most "extreme." And that extremity makes the others look normal. If there was no NDP, it would be easy to make to the Liberals look like all-out Communists (which they are), but because Jack Layton is more screwed up than the Liberals, the Liberals will always look more reasonable than the NDP - even when they are out in left field, where they are.

Take a look at feminism and how that worked. The Great Walrus, Andrea Dworkin, was such a slobbering, raving lunatic, that she made Gloria Steinam look "mainstream." Yet, Steinam is quite a radical herself - very radical. But she was not as much of a nutbar as the Great Walrus, so people looked around and said, "We'd better deal with Steinam, because I don't want to get within 100 feet of that other fish-blelching sea-cow."

Same as politics.

It all comes down to setting the stage.

There needs to be a political party to the right of the Conservatives to balance things out, and make our Conservate "rightwing" party look like the mainstream. That takes people being further right than they are right now. It is pretty simple, and the left has been using these techniques on us for decades.

The masses are really stupid, and it is questionable whether we should have a system of universal democracy at all. It is because of these types of manipulations that the left supports universal democracy so heavily. (Democracy is the road to Socialism -- Karl Marx). They know most people are stupid - especially the "educated" ones.

Very well said - Sam at December 18, 2008 4:20 PM !!!

the rush man says pay attention. things will not be as they seem to be.

Sam:
In my opinion, the relentless drift leftward is due to increased economic specialization. Very few of us are independent farmers anymore. If the shelves in our supermarkets suddenly went bare, few of us would know what to do. Aware of this fact, many of us are more inclined to seek security through collective effort. I don't particularly like this trend, but my opinion (and yours, I'm afraid) won't matter much in the long run.

Regarding social values that might be termed "leftist", just about all of them are feminine in nature. That includes increased acceptance of homosexuality, a de-emphasis on personal responsibility, a distaste for competition, and a reluctance to pass judgment. Here, the "culprit", if you view it negatively, is increased mechanization, which makes masculine strength and physical courage less important economically. Women's suffrage owes its very existence to modern machinery, which has made it possible for women to get out of the home and into the workplace. That the government women subsequently elect should look increasingly feminine need not surprise us. Again, I am not particularly pleased by this trend, but I doubt my distaste will matter much in the long run. Nor (referring now to your post) will the appearance of an "extreme right" political party bias public discussion significantly.

"Regarding social values that might be termed 'leftist', just about all of them are feminine in nature. That includes increased acceptance of homosexuality"

Tell that to the Spartans.

"a distaste for competition"

That's a feminine trait? Wow. Do you know ANYTHING about women?

"and a reluctance to pass judgment"

.....

Apparently you've never been married, either ...

Robert Redford on Bush. Funny how these lefty actors always fly everywhere, have huge homes, fancy cars and burn lots of energy but never want these filthy industries in their backyard!

"I think very highly of [Salazar]," Redford stated, echoing sentiments made by Rep. Brian Baird, D-Wash., and other NTHP representatives, all of whom were there to speak out against the possibility of the Bureau of Land Management selling new oil and gas leases around Utah's Nine Mile High Canyon.

Redford warned that leases around the canyon "need to be stopped."

"Bush may be a lame duck, but he knows how to quack," said Redford. He warned: "We should not leave one more debt" of the Bush administration for Obama to fix.

"These lands are part of our legacy ... not Cheney's and Bush's," he continued. "[They've] been trashing the environment since they came in, like it was their prerogative."

But he was just getting warmed up: On top of Redford's criticisms of the Bush administration's environmental policies, he called Bush "morally criminal" on three separate occasions and said he "was shocked about how devious and sneaky" Bush has been while in office.

ahhh, when you appear centrist you can sneak through the leftist agenda items much easier

and when you are a puppet, the string master will determine were you stand

and when you are a politician you need to be a liar

and maybe all the above apply in this case

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and eddy teach, if god is so against gays, why did he create them????

or are you in a position to judge on this matter

maybe you and others like you should worry about your own back yard

http://thephoenix.com/Portland/News/73929-Take-Back-Barack/

"Take Back Barack
It's time to reclaim the man we put in the White House"

"We knew Change wouldn't come overnight, that it would take time, but we were excited that we had elected a man who was open to Change, who said he wanted to consider real people's needs while in the Oval Office. We eagerly awaited the first hints of Change, as the president-elect's transition developed.

And now, we have reason to worry that Change is not coming to America after all. For nearly two years we were encouraged to "Be the Change you want to see in America." It is now obvious that we have a ways to go toward Being that Change. And so does President-elect Barack Obama. And that, above all else, needs to Change."

Worth reading the comments, too. Churn, churn, churn.

Alex:
Spartan society was very different from ours. It was essentially a garrison state focused almost exclusively on keeping down a much larger slave population, somewhat like the old Southern Confederacy in the U.S. Feminine values like empathy had to be ruthlessly suppressed, which was achieved by taking boys away from their mothers at the age of seven and forming them into militarized packs. This distancing from all things feminine continued throughout most of a man's life. Although I'm no expert on the human psyche, I can imagine homosexual activity as one possible consequence.

As for women having a distaste for competition, that is indeed a generalization for which I am sure both of us can find exceptions. But I stand by my comment.

As for not being married, I've been married for almost 40 years. However, I do appreciate the humor of your remark.

Let the Grand Disillusion begin!

cconn at December 18, 2008 11:49 AM

The Wonder is not responsible for any of this. It is the Democrat Party Machine that is running things. The Ubermessiah's job is to get in front of cameras and distract the media with his baritone voice, whilst all the real work is being done out of sight in back rooms.

Kate,
Yeah, the 'plan' is working out great.
First Obama's a Muslim, then he's a Christian with a radical preacher, then he's a socialist, then he's a corrupt Chicago politician, now he's a closet Republican - all according to you

Yeah, some plan - throw crap at the wall and hope something'll stick. What intellectual integrity! What a coherent worldview!

Keep trying.

He he he………..Hope & Change again.

Damn the far left must feel burned yet again, by this Chicago hustler! We knew it months ago, what are you going to do now? Take back the next up and coming four years? No adopting little boys without that marriage license, what a shame.

As I said immediately after the election, “can’t wait to see what scandals come out of this sham”. “It’s like a Friday night cliffhanger” ………stay tuned to next week. The whole governor buddy senate seat selling thing was a nice appetizer that the left will bury Obambas involvement to no end. It’s the main course that will be the tasty adventure after the inaugural bell dings……………..waiting with tickled enthusiasm.

Knight:

They're still hopin' for some change.

Like I told my fellow travellers on election night in Seattle, the only change the US will get is a more articulate PR director for the country.

If anything, his consistent call for more individual responsibility still hasn't sunk into the thick skulls of the loony left and maroons like real.

Take it easy on Real Set You Free, the freak just learned english.

Posted by: Indiana Homez at December 18, 2008 3:29 PM>

“I guess Barak wasn't vetted properly. Apparently some people didn't know he is a Christian”.

Or they disliked the other Obamba stage act of being a possible Muslim (at least in home & heart). The choices become less vague when deciding Christian = No legal marriage verses Muslim = Beaten, tortured (sodomized with a baton) then hung by the neck until dead.

Unfortunately either way = No adoption privileges.

I get a kick out of the outrage that the choice of this supposed "homophobe" is generating.

Aaaawwww the gays are upset (again and again and again ......) whatever.

Yes, these poor oppressed North American gays, living under sch crushing oppression, I imagine those people in Tibet & North Korea really feel sorry for you. f*ckk off.

GYM:

It's part of the test of life.

Real "Yeah, the 'plan' is working out great."

Ok, I know those on the left have some trouble with irony, but I've always thought that they understood mockery.

Apparently not.

This is just a ploy to lull evangelicals into a false sense of optimism. It costs Obama nothing to make this so-called gesture, especially when it's probably followed up by private reassurances that the gay agenda will be moved up the ladder as soon as the new administration gets into power.

I don't trust this guy one little bit, he's a communist. Trust me. (I mean Obama, not Rick Warren)

Obama's a Manchurian Candidate! And they never saw it coming...

"It is absolutely hilarious witnessing the death throes of your bigotry"
No. 1 - God isn't a bigot.
No. 2 - Rick Warren believes God's Word, and so does Obama. Rick is guilty of nothing but standing by his beliefs. Obviously this doesn't bother Obama, but believe me the pressure will continue and he is going to make enemies. How vile will remain to be seen.
Don't buy a new Hawaii shirt, Rick.

Texas Canuck:

"For a bunch of wahoos who see everything as a mixing of church and state, I find it funny the leftoids are complaining about the person doing the invocation and not the act itself."

Well stated.

Even more idiotic is pressure now on President-elect Obama to quit smoking because it might "set a bad example."

Sorry folks, whatever you think of smoking as a habit, in my experience it has no correlation to an individual's abilities (oh, OK, I suppose it might mean he gets winded earlier when jogging or maybe isn't quite as quick to dodge the odd incoming shoe).

Perhaps they'd prefer a non-smoking, tee-totalling vegetarian.

I seem to recall Hitler was one of those...

Ten to one say's that Obamba has a great under the table deal with tobbaco companies to discretly endorse thier products. He is a Chicago hustler after all.

I like trotting the Hitler example whenever vegans get a little too holy for the rest of us.

I think that a lot of you are missing an important opportunity here. This is just the beginning.
As the months go by, Obama will be doing more, and making more presidential decisions. With each event, more of these people will be angry enough to bust up their plates. So....
If we hang on to our limited edition Obama Victory plates, they will become increasingly rare, and increasingly valuable.