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December 10, 2008

Reader Tips

Good evening ladies and gentlemen, welcome to SDA Late Nite Radio. Tonight, for your delectation and pursuant to our Tuesday night vintage music show, here are Harry Reser and his Syncopaters performing Shaking the Blues Away (1927, 2:49).

Your Reader Tips are, as always, welcome in the comments.

Posted by Vitruvius at December 10, 2008 12:01 AM
Comments

Wow. Paul Zed was just on the National about Iggy. It was eye openingly disgusting that this is nothing but elite hero worship.

Zed went on and on about how Iggy is related to all of these old time big shots and uncles who wrote books and that Iggy is a storyteller so he can inform all of us oh so stupid and ininformed Canadians about what it really means to be a Canadian.

Too bad Iggy's stories about Canada have a 30 year gap and are not first hand experiences until 2005 when he graced our little colonial country with his royal blood to come and lead us out of our oblivion.

They act like he's the new Obama - a 60 something white guy with book read theories and, as Zed said - a professional speaker by gosh.

And the media is lapping this blue blood snobbery right up. Maybe we really are still the colonies?

Posted by: Marie at December 9, 2008 11:08 PM

Another question about Iggy. I know that his wife is not a Canadian citizen. What ocuntry is she from? Does anybody know?

Posted by: Marie at December 9, 2008 11:16 PM

Iggy's Christmas: http://pelalusa.blogspot.com/2008/12/iggys-christmas.html

Posted by: Robert W. at December 9, 2008 11:51 PM

[ A Canmore man has been convicted of uttering threats against Prime Minister Stephen Harper on a politically motivated Internet blog.

Provincial court Judge Judith Shriar, in a written judgment released Monday, said Patrick David Fenton, 27, intended his posts, written two years ago, to be taken seriously, even though she did not believe he intended to carry out the threats.] Calgary Herald

Next up, Scott Reid ?

The G&M's pulling the page is not a defense.

Posted by: ron in kelowna at December 10, 2008 12:01 AM

"You had an option, sir. You could have said, 'I am not going to do it. This is wrong for Canada, and I am not going to ask Canadians to pay the price.' You had an option, sir--to say 'no'--and you chose to say 'yes' to the old attitudes and the old stories of the Liberal Party. That sir, if I may say respectfully, that is not good enough for Canadians."

Guess who said that?

Applies very accurately to Iggy don't you think? Like dogsh?t stuck to your boot, his role in agreeing to the coaliton will never leave him - he is doomed as leader now.

Posted by: Gord Tulk at December 10, 2008 12:16 AM

There is a character in the play The Vertical Hour by David Hare which is partly based on Ignatieff (the play with a subplot about the Iraq war was in London and later on Broadway with Julianne Moore and Bill Nighy).

An interviewer with Hare made the following comments: "So, Mr Hare, tell me about The Vertical Hour. “It’s a play about a liberal intellectual who supports the war.” You mean like Nick Cohen or Christopher Hitchens? “Actually, I was thinking more of Michael Ignatieff.” Really, the long navel-gazer who, even for a Canadian, has had a conspicuous humour bypass? Why would you care what he thinks? The play first appeared on Broadway at the end of 2006, and was a qualified success. Sources close to the production told me that while Bill Nighy had been rivetingly brilliant, Julianne Moore had had trouble grasping and inhabiting the text.

This is Hare’s second play about the war in Iraq."

Posted by: Nicola Timmerman at December 10, 2008 12:29 AM

From CG's comments section (by a Liberal):

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He also did his Phd there, so it is 9 years. Calling him American misses the point. The point is that he is not Canadian. He left the country around 1968, and save for two years (1976-1978) lived elsewhere until 2004.

Ignatieff's adult children are not Canadian, his wife, I believe, is not a Canadian citizen. Why does that matter?

I think it matters where you are when something happens (just look at how inaccurate foreign reporting of the current political crisis is). In most of the formative events of the past 40 years, Ignatieff has not been here. He was not here during the summit series. Not here during the 1980 referendum. Not here during the repatriation of the constitution. Free trade debate? Nope. Meech? Nope. 1995 referendum? Nope.

Secondly, it matters because if he screws up as Prime Minister, he can always retire back to England or elsewhere. He doesn't have the monkey on his back of thinking "what kind of future world am I creating for my children?"
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That paragraph about the Canadian events is money.

Posted by: Hodge at December 10, 2008 12:40 AM

Ignatieff's wife's name looks Hungarian to me.

Posted by: nv53 at December 10, 2008 1:23 AM

Hodge = Good point.

The only thing that I find hard to relate to is what F'n planet most of the Liebrals and Dippers come from, never mind what country they grew up in.

Yeah, I know..Why don't I tell you what I really think.

Posted by: Pat at December 10, 2008 1:32 AM

It occurred to me this evening that I didn't recall hearing from the CBC's resident Village Idiot, Heather Mallick, on our constitutional crisis. Based on the low # of comments, apparently not many others are paying attention to her either. Before you peek at her latest editorial, take a wild guess which side she came down on!

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/12/05/f-vp-mallick.html

Posted by: Robert W. at December 10, 2008 1:32 AM

Unsubstantiated rumour: Iggy was apparently spotted in a Montreal restaurant last Sunday evening having a very hush-hush tête-à-tête with Duceppe and his BQ assistant. Of course, Duceppe and his aide were having difficulty understanding Iggy due to his accent being so different from Dion's.
Eventually, the discussion turned to the question of who would be leading the Liberals when Parliament reconvened in January.
Iggy was quick to reassure them: "Don't worry, mes amis. It's in the bag."
At which point, the aides was heard to exclaim:
"Merde! You Liberals are all the same!"

Posted by: edncda at December 10, 2008 3:22 AM

Marie;

I'm not sure where Iggy's wife comes from. Eastern European of some sort I believe.

I think we give far too much credit to the progeny of successful people. While the old saying that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree has some truth to it, it's also true that the apple can roll a fair distance before coming to a stop.

Bob Rae is a classic example. In younger days he nearly bankrupted Ontario, and as if to prove he's learned little since, now can't seem to grasp the idea that toadying up with separatists is going to get a cool reception in most of Canada. Right up to the bitter end of having to concede to Iggy, the man just didn't, and doesn't, get it.

Is Iggy any better? Maybe, but I see little evidence.

Posted by: bob c at December 10, 2008 3:30 AM

Marie - I think that Iggy is on wife 2 - his first wife was English, I think.

Posted by: Jema 54 at December 10, 2008 4:07 AM

GG!! Who cares where his wife is from? This is starting to sound like a Canadian version of the Barry O nirth cirtifict nonsense.

Iggy's lack of any kind of presence in the country for around 40 years is a perfectly valid complaint. Where his wife was born? Well the lovely Mila Mulroney isn't exactly a local is she?

There are so many ways to go after Iggy, why are some of you folks shooting for the low/stupid road?

Posted by: AtlanticJim at December 10, 2008 5:19 AM

As much of an a$$ Iggy is I think we should leaves his faminly out of these discussions.

Posted by: Rob C at December 10, 2008 5:27 AM

Iggy's wife does indeed have relavance with regards to possible governing of this country. Not to sound like a conspiracy nut but in the terms of security clearances, who do you suppose is the PM's closest confidant? Of course having said that, there is nothing against having a PM's wife be a rock & roll groupie either.

Gee, I just had a debate with myself...

Posted by: Texas Canuck at December 10, 2008 6:34 AM

Last night, the MSM crowned Iggy in a disgustingly saccharine, toady display of adulation: Fife on CTV and Paul Zed on the National.

Thanks, Vitruvius, for the zippy "Shaking the Blues Away." We're going to need it for the forseeable future.

For the record, Iggy's second and present wife is Hungarian. He left his first wife, and has admitted in an interview (sorry, I don't have the link, but it was posted at SDA awhile back) that it wasn't a proud moment for him.

So, Canada's Lieberals, who insist that they are the "party of the people" whereas the Conservatives are "the party of big business," are delighted to court a Russian Count, to pamper his pedigree, and to inform the Canadian public that we should be oh, so pleased to have such an august presence among us as our Prime Minister.

The MSM is happy to go along with the charade of the Librano$ being the party of the people, even though Iggy was parachuted in from his ivory tower at Hahvahd and, essentially, stole the Lakeshore riding nomination from the candidate who had been duly elected in that riding and who had lived there all his life.

This guy is a parasitic cuckoo. You know those birds, that mauraud other bird's nests? That's The Iggster. Forget his pampered pedigree. This guy is an opportunist of the first-degree and now he's got a coterie of so-called journalists who are really just a cabal of castrated clowns willing to sing the high notes as a paen to Iggy's greatness.

Batten down the hatches. Pass the bucket. We've got some really rough seas ahead.

Posted by: batb at December 10, 2008 6:39 AM

Rob C: I would generally agree with your thoughts about leaving Iggy's family out of it. However, a reminder that the MSM have dragged them in. The MSM court jesters are the ones going on and on about his pedigree. Perhaps some counterpoint to their grovelling is appropriate.

Posted by: batb at December 10, 2008 6:42 AM

Liberals are saying that Iggy was never too thrilled with the idea of a coalition.
It looks like his first move as their new leader may be to step away from it.
Iggy also signed his name to the request that was prepared by the coalition for the GG.
So... he wanted the coalition before he votes against it.
Well, that certainly clears up any confusion I harboured about his leadership and reliability attributes.
That didn't take long.

Posted by: doowleb at December 10, 2008 7:33 AM

Smells like Trudeau all over again.

To the ramparts !

Posted by: Fred at December 10, 2008 8:31 AM

Ignatieff is the unknown quantity the Liberals are quite prepared to go into the entrails of our democratic process to foist upon Canadians.
This should have us all deeply concerned.

In today's National Post, two good columns :

"The Divine-Right-to-Govern Party" by Lorne Gunter

"Michael, we hardly know ye" by Kelly McParland.

We have no real idea what this Ignatieff person stands for. The Liberals have taken away the chance we have to hear him debate current issues by parachuting him into the leadership.

He's simply a mystery in spite of what the desperate Liberals try to paint him he's least of all qualified to steer the economy, for which he is less qualified than even Dion.

The sneaky slime running the backrooms of the LPC that and their new buzzwords will be "HE'S A QUICK STUDY".

We may have to take to the streets to tell the Liberals we ELECT our Prime Ministers, we do not appoint them.

Posted by: Liz J at December 10, 2008 8:39 AM

Marie,

Your typo is the best and funniest freudian slip I've ever read.

Posted by: not stirred enough said at December 10, 2008 8:53 AM

Headline on Drudge last nite.

"Rare Arctic Blast Sets Sights on Southern California" - Ventura Country Star

It mentions that in the next week Southern Califonia is going to get a blast of really cold air that only occurs once every 50 years.

That headline is gone this AM.
I guess they had to make more room for more 'Crook' County headlines!

For some reason, the article fails to mention that we may have gone thru a period of hot weather that also occurs only once every 50 or 60 years.

By the time this winter is over, some people might be crying FOR more global warming.

Posted by: rockyt at December 10, 2008 8:54 AM

Marie,

Your typo is the best and funniest freudian slip I've ever read.

Posted by: not stirred enough said at December 10, 2008 8:55 AM

Of course, they're going to spin that when Ignatieff said he was for the war in Iraq and torture, it was before; a different lifetime; he was a much younger man.

The problem is, he was at least 54. A good 5 years older than the PM is right now.

Posted by: irwin daisy at December 10, 2008 9:10 AM

"The Harper chill factor
Canada is being ridiculed at a climate change conference in Poland, and delegates from all over the world are hoping our government will fall"
(nnw)
...-

"ECO WARRIORS SNITCH ON BEAVERS FOR 'ILLEGAL LOGGING'

GREEN campaigners called police after discovering an illegal logging site in a nature reserve – only to find the culprits were a gang of beavers.

Environmentalists found 20 neatly stacked tree trunks and others marked with notches for felling at a beauty-spot in Subkowy, northern Poland.

But when officers followed a trail left by a tree which had been dragged away, they found a beaver dam right across the river as reported by the Austrian Times.

A police spokesman said: "The campaigners are feeling pretty stupid. There's nothing more natural than a beaver.""
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2146100/posts

Posted by: maz2 at December 10, 2008 9:21 AM

Maz2:

If true, that is a very funny story.

Posted by: Gord Tulk at December 10, 2008 9:25 AM

Tsar Mikhail Iggy will not meet Garter until he's crowned in Petrograd, aka St. Mikhailaburg, Rooshia.
...-

"Hezbollah refuses to meet Carter

Hezbollah leaders have refused to meet former US President Jimmy Carter, who is on a two-day visit to Lebanon, a Carter spokesman says."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2146060/posts
...-

"Kofi Annan, Jimmy Carter refused Zimbabwe visas

22 Nov 2008 ... Kofi Annan, Jimmy Carter refused Zimbabwe visas ... President Robert Mugabe's regime denied barring the Elders. "The government of Zimbabwe ...
www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/11/22/2427136.htm"

Posted by: maz2 at December 10, 2008 9:27 AM

ctv's love fest of Ignatieff has just begun as evident in last nites newscast.

Posted by: bryanr at December 10, 2008 9:35 AM

From the I-Told-You-So Dept.

Critics say, O is Hussein.

>>>> This is a beauty of a line: "giving voice to an unusual name that was rarely heard during the campaign expect by critics."
...-

"Obama to take oath using all three names (The start of Obama's Muslim outreach program)

President-elect Obama says he plans to use all three of his names when he takes the oath of office in January, giving voice to an unusual name that was rarely heard during the campaign expect by critics."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2146046/posts

Posted by: maz2 at December 10, 2008 9:36 AM

I propose an amalgamation of terms:

"Yellow Journalism"
and
"Main Stream Media"

"Yellow Stream Media", anyone?

Posted by: Edward Teach at December 10, 2008 9:39 AM

"As temperatures dropped, the wet roads froze over and turned treacherous."
Global warming is winning the hearts and minds of Canadians in TO.
...-

"Treacherous, Icy Roads Lead To Dozens Of Crashes Including Major Pileup At 401 And Allen"
http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_29961.aspx

Posted by: maz2 at December 10, 2008 9:48 AM

Ignatieff, the Liberal leader even the hard right can vote for:

"To defeat evil, we may have to traffic in evils : indefinite detention of suspects, coercive interrogations, targeted assassinations, even pre-emptive war."

Ignatieff, the neo-con? This is going to be fun.

Posted by: irwin daisy at December 10, 2008 10:04 AM

Daniel Pipes, Still asleep after Mumbai

Victims caught in terrorist atrocities perpetrated for Islam typically experience fear, torture, horror and murder, with sirens screaming, snipers positioning and carnage in the streets. That was the case recently in Bombay (now called Mumbai), where some 195 people were murdered and 300 wounded. But for the real target of Islamist terror - the world at large - the experience has become numbed, with apologetics and justification muting repulsion and shock...

Western denial: No. The fact that terrorist fish are swimming in a hospitable Muslim sea nearly disappears amid Western political, journalistic and academic bleatings. Call it political correctness, multiculturalism or self-loathing; whatever the name, this mentality produces delusion and dithering...

Posted by: Charles MacDonald at December 10, 2008 10:18 AM

Scientists ready to rumble.

To be released this week... think the msm will pick it up?


UN Blowback: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims

Study: Half of warming due to Sun! –Sea Levels Fail to Rise? - Warming Fears in 'Dustbin of History'

POZNAN, Poland - The UN global warming conference currently underway in Poland is about to face a serious challenge from over 650 dissenting scientists from around the globe who are criticizing the climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore.

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=2158072e-802a-23ad-45f0-274616db87e6

Posted by: Marcia at December 10, 2008 10:18 AM

What we have to understand is that the Liberal ideology is an elitist ideology; it is not an ideology 'of and by and for the people'. It is a perspective that divides people into classes, with an elite class 'naturally' Ruling over a populist mass/morass.

The elite sector is made up of what in the 19th c we called the 'landed gentry'; these are people who are 'born to rule'; their income comes from non-trade sources such as the land. The modern version of 'the land' is 'the government'. So, the modern 'gentry' are the government paid class, such as academics, education, healthcare, civil service. This SET of people are the Liberal elite.

Their perspective is that they, and they alone, know what is best for 'the people' who are in trade, who work on The Farm, who are in small to medium businesses etc.

Again, the Liberal ideology is NOT a populist perspective; it is elitist. Therefore, a leader such as Ignatieff fits in perfectly with this image. Perfectly. The MSM will emphasize his elitist superiority because that 'proves' that he has the right-to-rule.

The fact that he's been out of Canada is irrelevant to his elistist supremacy. Watch what the MSM/Liberals will say; they'll say that he's been bringing 'the Canadian perspective' to Harvard. And now that Obama The Great is in charge in the USA, this link (and Obama went to Harvard) will actually be seen as embellishing Ignatieff.

The fact that he supported the Iraq War is equally irrelevant; that war is over and Iraq is succeeding in itself. And of course, the nature of his family, his wife, is irrelevant in itself.

I suspect he'll even slither out of his signature on the Coalition - and that coalition was an outrageous assault on our democratic rights.

Again, Ignatieff fits in perfectly with the Liberal ideology, which is a 19th perspective of the nature of a Ruling Party. A Ruling Party has an inherent Right-To-Rule based, not on the appeal of their policies to the electorate, but on, well..that Right. Period. And that Right is symbolized by a titled leader. The Count.

A Ruling Party rules by divine right not by elections. When such a party is found within a democratic system that requires elections - this throws a wrench into the problem. The way to deal with this is by manipulating the people. You do this by keeping them dependent on your goodwill and 'largesse'.

Subsidies to large industries; keeping small businesses out of competition with the large ones. Make-work projects funded by govt in other areas, keeping people dependent rather than starting up small businesses. Immigrants are isolated and kept dependent on govt grants. Subsidies to arts groups, women's groups, the CBC and on and on. These strategies create dependent populations who will act as your electorate.

You subsidize them, and essentially ignore them except at the vote time, when you demand that they 'pay the rent' and vote for you. That's the Liberal Way.

The fault line of the Liberal ideology, which sets up a Ruling Party rather than a Political Party - ie, a party that rules by divine right rather than by offering a set of policies - is that it can only function when in power. It needs access to the taxpayer money to keep the people funded.
However, since the Liberals set up these systems, the Conservatives cannot easily change the infrastructure. They can't easily stop funding to the arts, the CBC, the isolate immigrant groups, the Bloc and so on....

The other fault line in the Liberal ideology is that it operates within a narrow population base, primarily focused around Ottawa-Montreal, and focused only around Ontario-Quebec. It simply hasn't come to terms with the fact that the demographic and economic structure of Canada has changed from WWII - and has moved West. So, their focus is only around followers in Quebec and Ontario - and primarily - urban, where the landed gentry or govt funded workers live.

That's still a large population base; we can't ignore the number of seats held in Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver.

The question is - can Canada change? It set itself up within this elitist ideology after WWII, an easy task for it simply followed the colonial structure where Britain governed Canada. The Liberals operate this way. I doubt if they can change; their rhetoric doesn't show this.

But what about Canadians? Can they move into a nation where the right to govern is decided by and for the people? The Coalition rejected this right. It was massively rejected by Canadians and even by some Liberals.

Now, is this evidence that Canadians, even Liberals, (not the MSM) are moving out of this postcolonial phase and are rejecting a party that operates as Ruler rather than as an Elected Government?

Posted by: ET at December 10, 2008 10:35 AM

The article about Ignatieff to which I believe batb is referring was the very long one in the Globe and Mail, written by Michael Volpe.

Yes, Iggy's second wife is Hungarian and is, apparently, about to become a Canadian citizen.

Re PMSH on The National, I've written a letter—again—to the CBC Ombudstoady. Pansbridge is a spoiled brat and no professional. The PM was dignified and not hounded off topic—despite repeated, harpy attempts by the pro-Coalition, CBC anchor. TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION! I cc’ed my letter to the PM.

I’ve also written Bob Rae about his arrogance and lack of propriety re having the audacity to publicly address the PM, “Time’s up, chum”. “Chum”, eh? I also cc’ed that letter to the PM.

Excepting PMSH and his caucus, what has Canada done to deserve such a bag of hammers at the top?!

Posted by: Concerned Canadian at December 10, 2008 10:49 AM

Maybe ET has found the perfect tag to slap on Iggy's back - Elitism.

"Born to Rule", "Let them eat beer and popcorn", “All bow to the LPC Sun King”, “Voting - How Quaint” or some other humorous line based on his own and the LPC's elitism. I get the feeling that a man of his pedigree will not have the humility to take such mocking gracefully.

Posted by: lynnh at December 10, 2008 11:02 AM

I have read that Iggy rarely makes eye contact. He will look at the desk or whatever but not eye contact. Hmm, I'll have to watch for that.

Posted by: Speedy at December 10, 2008 11:10 AM

Iggy = Jarome Iginla

Miggy = Michael Ignatieff

Posted by: puddin and pie at December 10, 2008 11:15 AM

Priggy = PRince Michael IGnatieff

Posted by: Charles MacDonald at December 10, 2008 11:21 AM

ET at 10:35AM: **But what about Canadians? Can they move into a nation where the right to govern is decided by and for the people? The Coalition rejected this right. It was massively rejected by Canadians and even by some Liberals.
Now, is this evidence that Canadians, even Liberals, (not the MSM) are moving out of this postcolonial phase and are rejecting a party that operates as Ruler rather than as an Elected Government?**

It’s evidence that some issues, like the coalition and the political party financing, are so obvious, even to an apathetic electorate, that no amount of MSM spin will obfuscate them.

I think that most Canadians have moved out of the “postcolonial phase”; but many Canadians don’t vote. The problem is not ideology, the problem is slumber.

The short term answer is for the Conservatives to continue with an aggressive strategy in the chess game. They must keep the electorate awake with bold moves surrounding gut-level issues leading into an early election.

When parliament resumes, the budget must include all of the measures that have been demonstrated to be popular with the sleepy (silent) majority and even some Liberals, but will offend the opposition. The opposition’s nose must be so totally rubbed in kaka that the "coalition of losers", including the Bloc, has little choice but to rear its treacherous head and force an election based on the gut-level issues.

What have we got to lose?

Posted by: glasnost at December 10, 2008 11:30 AM

Thanks, Charles MacDonald, I love Priggy: it suits that empty suit like a crown suits a prince!

With apologies to Joni Mitchell (and propriety!):

And the Liberals they go round and round
And the painted p[r]iggies go up and down
They’re captive on the carousel of time . . .
Oh, to return; but they can only hark back
To every stolen perq
And go round and round and round
In their circle jerk!

Posted by: lookout at December 10, 2008 11:46 AM

glasnost, my husband and I were just discussing this.

Yes, PMSH has to push back as hard as he can: the snake is wounded but still able to strike. This is not the time to offer it a reprieve.

Pansbridge tried to make the PM grovel about removing the party funding by the taxpayers. The PM held his ground and reminded him that this measure is overwhelmingly supported by the taxpayer. So, I say DO IT NOW! Back the opposition into another corner, a corner where the electorate is glad to have them, and let’s have an election!

Posted by: lookout at December 10, 2008 11:53 AM

Budget officer questions projected surplus
Page demands to see data used to support Flaherty's prediction

By Kathryn MayDecember 10, 2008 "Canada's parliamentary budget officer has publicly questioned the projected budget surpluses of the Conservative government's recent economic statement and asked the finance department for evidence to back up such rosy predictions.

Kevin Page asked Finance Deputy Minister Rob Wright to turn over details on the projected spending reductions in departments and asset sales that the government has said will generate $10 billion in savings over five years. These are seen as key to the maintenance of a federal surplus. Mr. Page's letter, sent on Dec. 3, has now been posted on the budget office's website. It asks for a reply from the finance department this week.

He also asked for economic data and assumptions used for the 2008 budget and recent economic statement. The finance department refused to give the data for the 2008 budget, even though the numbers are routinely turned over to Bay Street forecasters...."

Uh oh. Page will be locked in the closet of the Library forevermore. While the Accountability Act installation of the Budget Officer was ham fisted and contrary to promises made by Harper - it's good to see the office doing its' job.

The money shot is how the Cons react to his request....if they are honest, they'll be honest...

Posted by: hardboiled at December 10, 2008 12:02 PM

Yes, Charles MacDonald, Priggy is most fitting, he does have the air of a Prig.

Posted by: Liz J at December 10, 2008 12:08 PM

Mao Stlong* say, my nephews, Boob $ John Lae*, full of castol oir. Iggy an Amelican beavel.
...-

"Rich nations plan "great escape" on climate: China"
http://www.reuters.com/article/reutersEdge/idUSTRE4B92UV20081210

*http://www.powercorporation.com/index.php?lang=eng&comp=powercorp&page=orgchart

Posted by: maz2 at December 10, 2008 12:40 PM

Questions needing to be answered:
Will Iggy flux the Separatist Coalition by his ascendancy to the throne?
Will O use Hussein at his kOrOnatiOn?
Will O make it Over 200 lbs.?
Will Citoyen Dionky vacate Stornoway before Xmas Day?
TBA.
...-

"Ignatieff's ascendancy places coalition in flux

Toronto MP Michael Ignatieff is set to be acclaimed federal Liberal leader today, after his chief rival and longtime friend Bob Rae bowed out after calculating he could not win a leadership showdown at a caucus meeting" (nnw)

Posted by: maz2 at December 10, 2008 12:51 PM


Meanwhile:

"it appears that California will see some significant changes along with the many other parts of the planet."

"JPL says: FORGET LA NINA: OSCILLATION RULES AS THE PACIFIC COOLS
10 12 2008

While I said a couple of days a go that “La Nina is back” it appears I mistook a strong PDO cool signature for the La Nina signature. As JPL’s Patzert says in the article below “This multi-year Pacific Decadal Oscillation ‘cool’ trend can cause La Niña-like impacts around the Pacific basin,”.

This PDO shift will be longer term event, and it appears that California will see some significant changes along with the many other parts of the planet. - Anthony (h/t to Allan)"
http://tinyurl.com/63m7w9 (wattsup)

...-

"CO2 is not causing warming or climate change.

It is not a toxic substance or a pollutant
Pre-industrial CO2 levels were about the same as today. How and why we are told otherwise?"
http://tinyurl.com/5a7ks9 (cfp)
(Includes pic of GOreacle & Oreacle)
By Dr. Tim Ball Wednesday, December 10, 2008"

Posted by: maz2 at December 10, 2008 1:15 PM

Wednesday Morning: CKNW's Bill Good is having an on-air verbal wet dream about Ignatieff. I think we're witnessing the media creation of Obama 2. Yucccck!!!

Posted by: Robert W. at December 10, 2008 1:38 PM

Environment Minister Jim (The Red) Prentice implementing carbon tax under cap and trade system. CO2 officially a pollutant...


...Canada wants to work with the U.S. on a North American cap-and-trade regime that would place a ceiling on greenhouse gases and let participants buy and sell emissions permits within that cap.

Those who don’t meet the emissions targets can buy credits from others with a surplus instead of lowering their emissions. The idea is to gradually lower the ceiling to control emissions.

Prentice suggested revenue generated by auctioning emissions permits when a cap-and-trade system is launched could be put into a fund to develop technology to combat climate change.

Posted by: hardboiled at December 10, 2008 1:38 PM

gotta luv this one.


http://www.galganov.com/editorials.asp?id=1073

Posted by: cal2 at December 10, 2008 1:58 PM

"UN Blowback: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims

Study: Half of warming due to Sun! –Sea Levels Fail to Rise? - Warming Fears in 'Dustbin of History'

POZNAN, Poland - The UN global warming conference currently underway in Poland is about to face a serious challenge from over 650 dissenting scientists from around the globe who are criticizing the climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore. Set for release this week, a newly updated U.S. Senate Minority Report features the dissenting voices of over 650 international scientists, many current and former UN IPCC scientists, who have now turned against the UN. The report has added about 250 scientists (and growing) in 2008 to the over 400 scientists who spoke out in 2007. The over 650 dissenting scientists are more than 12 times the number of UN scientists (52) who authored the media hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for Policymakers.

...Full Report Set To Be Released in the Next 24 Hours – Stay Tuned…

A hint of what the upcoming report contains:

“I am a skeptic…Global warming has become a new religion.” - Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever.

“Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly….As a scientist I remain skeptical.” - Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a PhD in meteorology and formerly of NASA who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called “among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years.”

Warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history…When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” - UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh...."
"Read more at epw.senate.gov ..."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2146239/posts

Posted by: maz2 at December 10, 2008 2:11 PM

I'd like to submit to the Liberal party a coronatiion ditty for the swearing in ceremony of Iggy. With apologies to Ray Charles, and all Canadians who believe in Democracy.

Born to rule, I’ve come back home again
Now it’s time for me to start my reign
What was your’s, it’s now for me to take
Born to rule and now I’m eating cake.

Born to rule, I can’t believe it’s mine
This crown they gave, in such a short, short time
You’ve all been had, I can’t believe it’s true
Born to rule and now I’m ruling you

Born to rule, I’m never going back
You’ll soon discover that I’m just a hack
But it’s too late, what’s your’s is mine to spend
Born to rule, now just turn around and bend

Posted by: Antenor at December 10, 2008 2:11 PM

smallwhiteanimals


http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/popup?id=4633993

Posted by: cal2 at December 10, 2008 2:18 PM

Oosp, Marcia had that report up above.

Here is a link to other articles by Dr. Tim Ball:
http://www.nrsp.com/people-timothy-ball.html

Posted by: maz2 at December 10, 2008 2:18 PM

Not all Liberals are smoking that cigarette today:

"Why I Despise Michael Ignatieff"

http://eugeneforseyliberal.blogspot.com/

"UPDATE: Well since I wrote that it has become clear that Ignatieff has pushed aside Dion & strong-armed the party into avoiding a democratic leadership process so as to seize the leadership. The executive's last supposed solution, was all wet, designed to produce an Ignatieff outcome without actually letting the membership vote. The autocrats have won. And it is sad to see how many Liberals are happy to renounce any residual liberalism so they might abase themselves before the next leader. As you'll see above, I predicted dire outcomes should we follow such a path. If anything, it's worse than I thought. Ignatieff is more despicable than ever. The caucus & executive have shown themselves to be more unprincipled & craven than ever. And far too many Liberals have shown themselves to be happy quietests at best, enthusiastic pro-authoritarian & anti-democrats at worst. The Liberal Party is trying to kill off its last vestiges of liberalism. Very sad.

No-one will ever forget how Ignatieff became party leader. He will always be illegitimate. The party has covered itself in lasting ridicule. This is a sad day for Canadian democracy."

Posted by: oh-oh at December 10, 2008 2:44 PM

At Drudge, two items about global warming. The it's a fact one works. The one that questions is dead.
http://www.livescience.com/environment/081210-ap-climate-treaty.html

Posted by: Speedy at December 10, 2008 3:25 PM

oh-oh - that blog is written by an ardent Dion supporter, who considers Dion an outstanding intellect and so on.

Please remember, that Dion set up the Green Shift, an open tax grab of the West and big industries to support his vote pandering to the poor, and also, helped set up the Coalition - the most vicious attack on our democracy in our history.

As for Ignatieff, I'm still open to watching what will happen. The era of the 1950-80's is over. Canada has changed. The Liberal Party, as I keep ranting, does not operate as a Political Party, ie, with policies embedded in the real needs of the people. It operates as a Ruling Party, with no policies and only manipulation of the people for their votes.

Now - can manipulation work that well in the changed Canada which no longer relies for its information on the top-down (ie linear with no feedback and therefore authoritarian) rhetoric of the newspapers and television - but has turned to blogs.

Blogs are information sites in the hands of the people; they are not top-down but open and 'lateral'; ie, many individuals post, correct each other, add to the knowledge base. Blogs permit knowledge to develop among the people, while the Ruling Party controls the top-down propaganda sites (eg CBC, CTV, newspapers). Just think of the instant reacton via blogs re the Coalition fiasco.

Then, there's another reality - the changed economic and demographics of Canada; both have moved West. The Liberal Party as a Ruling rather than Political Party, operates via an elite class of 'landed gentry', the government funded professionals. These people are based primarily around Ottawa-Montreal. And Toronto and Vancouver.
Can the Liberal Party move out of the 19th century and appeal to the peasants? They have never done so; their elections were bought - via setting up the populaton as dependent and isolate sets.

And finally, as a Ruling Party, like all supremacist states, they require Enemies. These are carefully crafted. The usual Liberal enemy is the USA; they'll keep that but, with Obama in charge, I suspect they'll lower that and instead, focus on Harper as = Bush. Watch that; it will be their new slogan.

And, they'll try for Quebec - but the Bloc won't be pleased. In Ontario, they'll try the old tactic of making Ontarians afraid that Quebec will leave unless we 'appease' Quebec. Problem is, many Ontarians are tired of this slogan as well.

So - how long can rhetoric last? And what will the NDP, thwarted in its attempt to take over the government via Dion - what will it do?

Finally,

Posted by: ET at December 10, 2008 3:39 PM

B.C. man secretly taped in own home, then sued over comments
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2008/12/01/bc-slappsuit.html

Posted by: Alan at December 10, 2008 3:55 PM

Ignatieff, out of the gate, at his first press conference, LPC leader plants his feet firmly:

On the fence.

He starts by insulting the PM, on ooh, how he has "lost trust" (Grit translation-not doing what I want, being so wise), followed soon by double standard accusation of negative politics. He will form coaliton, or not, or even minority government, with or without the Bloc.

Doesn't he realize the "coalition" won't be governing, just trying to get elected with NDP and Bloc baggage firmly attached. Go ahead Grits, think you can add up yours and NDP vote.

GG won't grant you power as your party just did - you will have to earn it in election you forced on Canadians; and they will be so happy about that - NOT!!

Don't these people live in the real world. Come down from your ivory tower, Mr Ignatieff. BTW, Stephen's not scared of you. At some point Mr Ignatieff will actually have to face some semblance of voters, aside from running in a safe Lib riding. He has held no government office whatsoever, but has all the answers. Oh, and another thing, most Canadians have never even heard of you.

Seminar room arrogance - not an auspicious start Mr Ignatieff.

Posted by: Shamrock at December 10, 2008 4:05 PM

What I am hearing is that Iggy will vote for the budget if it meets his requirements. If not,he will ask the GG to replace Harper with a coalition. This cannot be going over very well with the others who are strongly for the coup.On the other hand,he may be setting up the public,pretending that he will give it careful consideration,then scuttle it saying it doesn't do enough,and make the grab for the brass ring. If this happens we MUST have an election. The case for an election is stronger now in that Ignatieff was not the liberal leader during the last election,but who knows what the GG will do. I think all should write her,thanking her for protecting our rights on the prorogation,and to keep looking after the interests of democracy.

Posted by: wallyj at December 10, 2008 4:09 PM

Marie,regarding your opening comment; I watched that also,it was nauseating. I half expected Mr. Zed to day " If Ignatieff says the check is in the mail,the check is in the mail, if Ignatieff says that he is from the gov't and is here to help you,he will help you,and for the third big lie,well,just smell my breath".

Posted by: wallyj at December 10, 2008 4:23 PM

Below is the CBC/Pravda version.

There is already a coalition, namely the Separatist Coalition; the Troika has three (3) sides; the TOLiberals-Taliban Jack Layton's socialists-the DuceppeBloc communists.

As engineers know, the triangle/troika is a stable configuration; a triangle does not give up easily to deformation.

Yes, Mikhailevitch Iggy is following in Stalin's footsteps. Stalin was described as the "engineer of human souls". (H/T The Engineer of Human Souls by Josef Skvorecky.)
...-

"Newly named Liberal Leader Ignatieff ready to form coalition" (cbc)

Posted by: maz2 at December 10, 2008 4:32 PM

Please remember that Ignatieff is a part of the Ruling, not Political Party. That means that everything he says has a manipulative agenda.

At the moment, his agenda is to define himself, via the MSM, as 'His Imperial Majesty'. In other words, to define himself as the One Who Has Authority. Therefore, he says that HE defines whether the budget is Good or Bad. That is to set himself up to the public as In Charge and In Power.

Ignatieff most certainly doesn't want the Coalition, for he saw the polls and the reaction to that attempted coup. The NDP, however, will most certainly try to trip Ignatieff up over this coalition; they'll do it to show that the Liberals are unreliable, don't keep their word - this will be an attempt to take away disgruntled Liberals from the Ignatieff Liberals (such as Dion, Rae etc supporters).

Ignateiff certainly doesn't want an election; it's too soon after the October one, the Liberals have NO money for an election - please note that they are deeply in debt and are waiting for the first installment of the 2009 annual subsidy from the taxpayer so that they can pay off their 2008 debts. Plus, not all Canadians are, I think, as entrapped by the idealistic notion of a Sovereign style PM as they were 40 years ago.

Posted by: ET at December 10, 2008 5:15 PM

MSM lies here: "Canada's sick economy".

The only sick economy is TO/GTA/southern Ontario's economy.
...-

"Cut to GST makes a comeback

OTTAWA - Could a third cut to the hated goods and services tax be just the elixir needed to revive Canada's sick economy?

Economists generally panned the Stephen Harper government for twice trimming the GST in its first mandate, but that was partly because the cuts were made in good times.

Now that the Bank of Canada has officially said the country has entered a recession, some economists are giving more respect ot(sic) the idea once derided as "a political gimmick."

In a report to be released Thursday, Dale Orr of IHS Global Insight gives relatively high marks to a third reduction of the GST as a potential measure for the government when it introduces what Harper calls a "significant stimulus package" package in the Jan. 27 budget.

"The GST has some real good qualities as a form of fiscal stimulus," he says. "It can be timely in its impact, it is targeted on consumption and only works if people buy things, and in theory you can remove it, although politically that can be problematic."
http://tinyurl.com/6cvah3 (canpress)

Posted by: maz2 at December 10, 2008 6:35 PM

The Liberals don't have to worry about money. Once they take over they will change the party funding rules and they can then pay for everything they need from chump change out of their very very deep pockets.

Multi millionaires pretty well all - with multi millionaires in ther back rooms and salivating tonronto based media in the front.

How can they lose??

Posted by: Marie at December 10, 2008 6:40 PM

ET, you give LPC far too much credit. I recall when one of their talking heads was asked about voter backlash at coalition, before polling came out to confirm, he said that they would be forgiven for their transgression by providing "good government."

Attaching any rationality to their thinking is dangerous. They are desperate for power; they should know this coalition power play will only result in election, but they are willing to wreck Ignatieff's credibility right from the get go.

They are truly desperate, and desperate people can do some crazy things. If Ignatieff had any smarts, he would disavow the coalition right now, say they will vote for or against government as a party, not for any coalition. To do otherwise seems, to be, to be political suicide; but they appear willing to chance it.

Imagine Ignatieff taking his party into an election, holding himself as PM, when he has been LPC leader just over a month, with Canadians not even knowing who he is, with CPC coffers able to define him before he can, with Canadians enraged at his attempted power play, with Jack Layton swinging NDP votes over to CPC, and Liberal votes bleeding in every direction.

The Grit delusion continues unabated. Harper should call his bluff, if that's what it is, by telling him to negotiate in person, not through the media.

Jack Layton didn't have the smarts or parts to supplant the LPC; but, they seemed determined to do it for him. If they insist, then Harper should let them continue this coalition fantasy.

He shouldn't get in the way of them doing something really stupid. He just has to make sure he can tell electorate he tried to reason with them, but they wouldn't listen; hence we are in another election.

Then Liberals, yet again, will be looking for another leader, because the media will crucify him if he misplays this one.

Posted by: Shamrock at December 10, 2008 7:21 PM

There are reasons I have trouble sleeping at night and the CTV's top story at this moment is part of the reason. I seem to recall that yesterday I was reading that PM Harper was congratulating the new Lieberal Leader and was saying that he looks forward to working together with him and all the Opposition parties in trying to get Canada's economy back on line, and yet today it is "Change or I'll take you down: Ignatieff to PM". Sounds like that Lieberal asshat is already to re-decorate 24 Sussex Drive. Damn Lieberal leaders consider the PM mantle like a monarch-in-exile, to be retaken at any cost, and screw what is best for Canada.

The MSM is already winding up the Iggymania bandwagon so I wonder how long it will take the sheeple of this land to fall in line?

btw, Iggy should be a reference to a talented hockey player, not a politician of questionable motives. /refer to Calgary Flames line-up for you non-hockey readers.

Posted by: Texas Canuck at December 10, 2008 8:05 PM

CBCpravda, Iggys biggest backer . on your feet or on your knees.


http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/12/10/ignatieff-caucus.html

Posted by: cal2 at December 10, 2008 9:38 PM

Iggy loves the smell of Taber in the morning.

Iggy step over here. Farther, Iggy; to the left, Iggy.
"He paused and drew giggles [Taber] by adding: "I like the smell."
This is a parody, a satire? News?

>>>> "regain the trust of western Canadians."

Un-frikking-believable bee-ess & flatulence from MSM/STOPIGGY.
...-

Ignatieff gets comfy at first news conference

OTTAWA — Michael Ignatieff loves the smell of barnyard scat in the morning.

As he extolled the aroma of animal excrement during his first official news conference, it became jarringly obvious that the rookie Liberal leader was feeling confident in the new role.

Confident enough to volunteer that kind of information when asked how he planned to recapture votes in rural Canada."

"Ignatieff expressed optimism that he could achieve what has proven to be a difficult task for decades of Liberal leaders - to "grain by grain, and riding by riding, and small town by small town, and big town by big town" - regain the trust of western Canadians.

"I want them to understand the depth of respect that I have for the western economic achievement; for their entrepreneurial spirit, for the beautiful big sky," he said.

He lauded the West as "the beating economic heart" of our country's future, where "the destiny of our country's economy" would be played out. Ignatieff apologized for what he called past Liberal mistakes that had long triggered resentment toward his party in Western Canada.

When discussing the precarious state of the country's finances and the widespread belief that the government is disguising a budget deficit, Ignatieff reached into the lexicon of a more genteel, God-fearing era.

"We (need to) get the facts of how bad the deficit is going to be, where we truly, actually, are, on the 10th of December, in the year of our Lord, 2008.""
http://tinyurl.com/56z2tj (canpress)

Posted by: maz2 at December 10, 2008 9:46 PM

Iggys secret life , more than just a yank.


http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Mark_Lenard

Posted by: cal2 at December 10, 2008 9:49 PM

Here is the natural incremental end result of Iggy's "scat" socialism: the "'Devil's Excrement'".

Iggy: "I like the smell."

...-

"Chavez Steps Into 'Devil's Excrement'

Latin America: With oil, Venezuela's Hugo Chavez fueled a revolution based on Marxism and his own swaggering persona. But with oil prices now plunging, he and his near-dictatorship may also go bust.
What goes up must come down. That's the reality of oil prices, which in the past decade have fluctuated from $9 to $178 a barrel in global markets.

But that reality's been disregarded in Venezuela, where $800 billion in oil earnings in the past decade provided the engine of Hugo Chavez's socialist rule.

Premising his government spending on perpetual rises in oil prices, he's now facing an economy with 40% inflation and not enough foreign reserves to cover exports. It's a classic recipe for trouble.

Wild price fluctuations are a fact of life in the oil industry. They explain why private oil companies aren't as profitable as headlines suggest. Fact is, price highs and lows average out profits to just 9% of revenues over a decade, nothing like the 15% returns seen in other industries, such as drugs.

But even on a price roller coaster, oil companies survive by investing in new production when prices are high, and subsidizing production when they're low. The state of Alaska also does this. Gov. Sarah Palin emphasized to IBD last summer that in managing Alaska's oil bonanza, her priority was "saving for a rainy day."

Petro-states dominated by state-owned oil companies employ no such strategy. In booms, their revenues overwhelm their economies, driving out small, non-oil businesses and leaving oil as the only game in town. They also tempt governments to become dictatorships. Flush with oil cash, rulers can slash taxes for their supporters, who will demand even less transparency and accountability."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2146559/posts

Posted by: maz2 at December 10, 2008 9:59 PM

Actually,about Iggy's barnyard yarn,I am sure that his bud Mr.Zed,or is that Mr.Zee if you're talking about Americans. Anyways I am sure Zed said that Iggy was raised in the backwoods of New Brunswick. This man,who is whitewashing his past,may have actually been everywhere in Canada depending on the situation.On another note I missed politics, the hour long version, but did catch the half-hour version. It was all Iggy which makes me wonder if they edit out the uneccessary stuff like pro-conservative comment and then put a pro-lib version out later. It would not surprise me at all.

Posted by: wallyj at December 10, 2008 10:01 PM

CTV(TASS) headline. Harper to fill senate with unelected senators.

I guess he can start with the elected ones if we could get the unelected liberals to stand aside.


http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20081210/harper_senate_081210/20081210?hub=TopStories

Posted by: cal2 at December 10, 2008 10:33 PM

"Scott Brison, National Post
Published: Thursday, December 11, 2008

The Liberal Party of Canada, as Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition, has a singular duty to provide an alternative government to the people of Canada. The problems the country faces today will not be remedied by quick-fixes but rather by the same determination and focus the Liberal party provided through the mid-1990s on the economic challenges of that time."

Any chance that will mean more theft of our money like the EI fund, you Liberal POS?

Posted by: Dave at December 11, 2008 2:25 PM
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