Earlier on another thread I asked if anyone knows what portion of the CBC's $1 Billion goes to the CBC French language service. I received no reply.

Does anyone know and/or can they give me a link to try to chase down the answer? On the other hand, maybe this is one of those numbers that is purposely hidden from the Canadian public or difficult to extract for political reasons.

Re-run Breaking News:

Sandy Rinaldo tasers Craig Oliver in attempted coup at CTV National Headquarters. Lloyd Robertson missing. Fears that he may be in Belize. Hairclub for Men issues plea for calm. RCMP accidentally pepper spray CBC headquarters after dispatcher mixup. Peter Mansbridge tears of joy:

"I thought you were management. Thank God it was only the police."

Don Cherry rumoured to be inside.

Developing....

vitruvius - I opt for the 'of questionable character'. For a specific example, here is Bob Rae, on his blog:

"Our coalition can defeat the Harper government when it returns with a Budget on January 26. We need to continue driving towards bringing down this Prime Minister, who has utterly lost the trust and confidence of Canadians, and of the House of Commons they elected."

Notice that the Loyal Opposition declares its intention to defeat a budget without having read it. Notice also, that he ignores the polls that show, as you have outlined, the overwhelming support for Harper and the Conservatives. Instead, he declares that Harper has 'utterly lost the trust and confidence...blah blah'.

Then, he says: "We need to work with the majority of citizens of all kinds to bring their will into parliament."

Heh - this is from a Coalition that is deliberately set up to prevent it going to be voted on by the electorate; that is set up with the signed agreement from the Bloc that they'll support it in any confidence vote and thus, utterly ignore any 'will of the citizens'.This coalition has no intention of asking the citizens what they want - and indeed, is spitting on that will, as expressed in the October election.

So, yes, of 'questionable character' is a, ah, politically correct term for 'deeply corrupt'.

The problem, ET, is that once I said "anyone", I couldn't be too specific in terms of specifying (3), or counter-cases could be found to invalidate my conjecture, so I settled on "of questionable character" as a generic label to characterize an entire taxonomy of misbehaviours. I spent 20 minutes working on what to say after the "(3)".

The Denver Post explains it thusly;

[ The newspaper industry has been caught in a tailspin for three years, a trend variously blamed on plummeting ad revenues, declining readership, growing competition from the Internet and a deepening national recession. ] DP

But their own commenters explain it asteroidly ;

[ I agree 100% with the previous writer. Newspapers would have more readers if they went back to reporting and leaving advocacy to the editorial pages. Instead they have forced many people like me to seek other avenues for news. You cannot sell advertisements if you are chasing off the majority of your readers with slanted and often unverified reporting. I believe most readers regardless of their political persuasion want to make up their own minds after reading news and do not appreciate biased journalism.]

http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_11142071

This just in from John Manley in an article at the G&M:

"As a Liberal, I believe the first step for my party is to replace Stéphane Dion as leader with someone whose first job is to rebuild the Liberal Party, rather than leading a coalition with the NDP."

The civil war gains momentum.

If the polls that just came out haven't destroyed the credibility of the MSM, I don't know what will. There isn't one reporter I'm aware of who even dreamed that Canadians would get behind Harper the way they have.

They're a bunch of bloody incompetents still prattling on about "Harper's blunder" even with polls splashed all over the front pages of their newspapers saying otherwise. Talk about tone deaf.

*
the manley thing gets better than that... "The notion that the public would accept Stephane Dion
as prime minister, after having resoundingly rejected that possibility a few weeks earlier, was
delusional at best."

*

BCer ... trying to figure out these numbers for you, and I find this hilarious document .... just look at the front page ...

http:/ /cbc.radio-canada.ca/annualreports/2006-2007/pdf/AR0607_e.pdf

The document contains a financial review for 06/07.

The rough answer looks to be about a third of the billion goes to French programming.

New employment stats during this world wide financial crisis:

United States in 2008 so far:

LOSS of 1.9 MILLION jobs.

Canada in 2008 so far:
GAIN of 130,000 jobs.

Thank you PM Harper for warning the country during your 2007 year end address that we were heading for rough times world wide and that is why your government was taking pre-emptive steps.

No thanks to Liberal John McCullum who ridiculed PM Harper after that address and accused him of fear mongering.

HEH!!!

For a small break from our pathetic media bashing anything conservative, check out Mike Gallagher's take on CNN's Jack Cafferty and his Palin Derangement Syndrome.

http://krla870.townhall.com/MediaPlayer/AudioPlayer.aspx?ContentGuid=910d4842-47bb-4927-b088-c7e966b51262

Let's not forget, the three leading candidates to be Liberal leader all accepted the delusional proposition and made a point of saying so, in public, when they could have found something better to do.

There's still time for that though.

BCer ... here's the estimates for this year ... 1.115b search for "Broadcasting"

http:/ /www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/est-pre/20082009/me-bd/pub/ME-001_e.PDF

The article below - amazingly prophetic !!
Is that why Canadians are now running in droves !?

Check the date this was written;

-------------------------------------------

Bob Rae for Canadian Prime Minister!
By Judi McLeod
Tuesday, August 2, 2005

Some Liberals, knowing that polls show they likely will be returned to majority status come next election, are tired of languishing in minority status. They cringed when Martin was given the nickname "Mr. Dithers" by a prominent magazine.

Should Bob Rae as Liberal leader replace "Mr. Dithers", it will be a Red Letter Day for Opposition-deprived Canada.

Voters will get to see party lines made manifest, that the Liberals are really the NDP and the NDP the Marxists.

Rather than merely in theory, with their styles out in plain sight, voters are apt to run in droves to the down-in-the-polls Stephen Harper.

Bob Rae for Prime Minister!

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2005/edesk080205.htm

-----------------------------------

Out with STAY STEPHIE STAY

In with COME BOBBIE COME

Perhaps Manley could kick Rae in the nards one more time, as I don't think both nuts were driven out the top of Rae's head with that soccer kick to the slats.

Not to toot my own horn or anything, but I mentioned in the comments at NP at least 3 days ago that our PM has been ahead of us all for weeks now. This will go down as one of the greatest political actions in Canadian history. Total agreement on my part that those who are calling for the PM's head are off theirs!

I can't imagine how any other course of action would have so totally won the day as our fine Prime Minister took. It is now critical that all this separatist nonsense be shut down. (For now) Time to settle down and work toward winning a majority in the election that is hopefully soon to come. We must fight them on the beaches!

Remember Paul Martin's pitiful pleas to the nation that he just wanted to make parliament work and Canadians don't want an election and then he even gave Jack Layton a $4 billion bribe to vote him out when Canadians discovered his Liberals had stolen at least $100 million from taxpayers that we know of.

He whimpered and pleeded on National TV. He begged to be given a chance.

So, what do the Liberals and their power mongering synchophats do to Stephen Harper?

They give him less than 2 weeks in parliament to solve all of the problems of the entire world and since he failed they want to take him out.

There is no moral or ethical or even common sense ground left for the Liberals who have proven power at any cost is their only mantra.

There's no way the liberals can vote down the budget, that would cause an election, and a conservative majority would occur.

The question remains, who is going to abstain? We know it will happen.

Good to see English Canada is showing itself to be a truly center-right nation at heart.

A decade ago it may have been a stretch to mention Canada and Pravda and Marxism in the same sentence.

Globe & Mail poll result surprising so far.

Who were the biggest losers, in a political sense, in this week's parliamentary crisis? 44% for Harper and Conservatives. Wishful thinking, I'd say.

Harper and Conservatives
44% 1643 votes
1643 votes

Dion and Liberals
53% 1975 votes
1975 votes

Latyon and NDP
3% 101 votes
101 votes

Duceppe and Bloc
1% 38 votes
38 votes

The CBC, before it took the sharp turn to the left:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0jhJA1Hjxk

Enjoy! And feel good about the fact that each of us played a small part in helping shape public opinion in favour of a country that favours democracy!

Dear Ron in Kelowna,

Interesting find about the newspapers. I've been saying that for years about journalists. If people perceive that news reporting is deliberately skewed then trust diminishes. Do it again & again & again and trust is lost forever.

Just yesterday I wrote a letter to one Geraldine Baum after she published this: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-canada5-2008dec05,0,3038908.story

Even a 15 year old could pick out her slant from the facts. I was never rude but yet never heard back from her. Here was my closing paragraph:

You have no idea how deeply it troubles me, and undoubtedly millions of others, how little respect writers like you have for the once great profession of journalism. At one time there was a clear distinction between "news reporting" and "editorials". Pieces like yours will serve as perfect examples to historians as to how even a moderate adherence to journalistic ethics became unimportant to "journalists" in the early part of the second millennium. And as a direct result of this, people lost faith in their media outlets to report the news accurately. That loss of faith is killing your profession and ultimately will see you without any employment as a result one day too. Let me proactively offer you my condolences.

OJ and the libs have been put into their deserved places.Isn't karma sweet?

Boots at December 6, 2008 12:15 AM

Of course they're afraid Boots. They've almost got Socialism installed and they don't want anyone to wake up and say "What's that!"

Same deal here in Canada. Layton/Deuceppe/Dion socialist trio have almost got it installed.

Regards,
Pat

I can just imagine that harper is about to give us the best buget that the people of this country will have seen in many decades.
1. Cut the gst by 1%
2. more tax cuts to help stimulate consumers to buy more inturn produces more taxes to the tax man
3.0 corprate tax to all new buisnesses for 1 year to help stimulate more jobs for those who lose thier jobs in auto industrie and other sectors
4.CUT POLITICAL WELFARE
5.Cuts to bueracracy to save tax payers money on labour that is 60% wasted anyway
6.Sell all crown corps for the private sector would run them better anyway and tax payers wont have to pay for any more packs of gum
7.Clip the wing of the G.G
8.NO MORE MONEY TO THE CBC if they cant make it through advertising and programing then people dont want it any way
Let the three stooges try to shoot that one down and take it to an election.
HAHAHAHA
Good luck

"There's no way the liberals can vote down the budget, that would cause an election, and a conservative majority would occur."

With rational, clear thinking people in charge I'd agree with you allan, but there seems to be no one in the Liberal party who fits that description at the moment.

I mean, we're talking here about people who couldn't figure out, and apparently still can't, that going to the Canadian people with a proposition while your arm is wrapped around a separatist is the equivalent to showing up and a garden party with a skunk.

This is a bit sad but Karma has struck again. Don Newman has jumped the shark,he thinks he is only stumbling over his gemini awards right now,but in the morning reality will set in. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/12/05/f-vp-newman.html Notice the complete absence of current polling numbers and any judgement of the ethics(?) of the coalition. Don,that is the toilet that your head is resting on,not a senate seat.

Two final notes tonight before I sign out:

1. I received a very nice, albeit generic letter from Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall today. Though I don't have permission to post it, let's just say that his views concur very much with those of Stelmach's and Campbell's further west.

2. I have inside info about Roy Green's show this weekend, though not from Roy himself. Apparently Roy has been frothing/fuming, ready to unleash a tirade of anger at the Coalition. Wherever you catch Charles Adler's show during the week, you'll find Roy's on Saturday & Sunday!

ron in kelowna,

It's no longer the news. It's opinion.

Harper "...who has utterly lost the trust and confidence of Canadians, and of the House of Commons they elected." - Bob Rae's blog feeding tomorrows Toronto Star front page headline.

They ignore reality and make their own news. They think their news is reality. And once it's published it is, for most.

Nifty trick, don't you think?

Except for the damn blogs.

Two comments:

First, amid the general CBC bashing, let me praise them for one thing they do well - their "Galaxie" music service. On my Rogers cable, I get a choice of many themed music channels - electronic, classical, 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, hard rock, folk, world, jazz, ambient and more - all of which are commercial and announcer free. I know I'm paying for it through the CBC tax subsidy (and doubtless a fee to Rogers), but unlike Sirius or XM, I don't have to buy a special radio to receive it. It's not a huge thing, but it is nice to have.

Second, not that many months ago, we were subject here to daily - and lengthy - pieces of quasi-illiterate, pro-Moslem drivel from a troll with a variety of pseudonyms. I started responding with "too long, didn't read" to every comment. Some people here chastised me for doing so, but we haven't seen that troll here for some time. I don't want to indulge in post hoc ergo propter hoc thinking, but if a similar troll pops up in the future, I'm going to respond the same way, and see what happens.

We're not out of the woods yet. I read Manley's. article in the Globe

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081205.wcomanley06/BNStory/specialcoment

He blasts Harper as the one who started it all. The MSM has been pushing that narrative. and the polls show people do believe some of that narrative.

Manley goes on to say the libs need to elect someone before XMAS to clean up the mess. (him perhaps? - my speculation)

If he jumps in our boy's numbers will plummet.

This is a volatile situation, very emotional for Canadian. We have a temporary respite that could easily swing back just as hard with the right liberal in place.

JD

KevinB,

Check earlier posts. 'New' is back. Like an STD.

Sorry for the punctuation and spelling errors
Long night

JD

The old cliche is literally true, true, and true: shooting the shooting of the shooting messenger is da poof.
(H/T Marshall McLuhan said that first.)

The "veteran", Mick Gzowski, son of the CBC's "icon" Peter Gzowski, has been fired.

>>>> Mick's mother is (was?) Citoyen Dion's English-language teacher.

How does Citoyen pronounce Gzowski?

"A staffer said Mr. Dion and his team have lost the confidence not only of the Liberal caucus but also of Liberal staff.

"I am a f---ing Liberal and I don’t think they’re competent enough to run the government," the staffer said."
...-

"Source: Liberals to fire videographer"

"On Friday, Liberal sources said, she [Johanne Senecal, Mr. Dion’s chief of staff] moved to fire Mick Gzowski, the party’s veteran videographer."

http://thechronicleherald.ca/Canada/1094499.html
...-

Here is another who should be fired:

"No winners after week of unnecessary hell
Don MArtin: Incredibly, it was only a week ago today that negotiators from all three opposition parties gathered in an Ottawa hotel suite to midwife a Liberal-led coalition aimed at taking down the six-week-old Conservative government" (nnw)

"The man is fundamentally goofy."

Who whom?

Googoo serves up "goofy".
Give Rasp some traffic>

The Daily Rasp: Coalition Deathwatch 2
5 Dec 2008 ... The man is fundamentally goofy. Posted by thedailyrasp at 4:47 PM. Labels: LaDrew National Post Dion Liberals Canada politics Jean Chretien ...
thedailyrasp.blogspot.com/2008/12/coalition-deathwatch-2.html

(JustAnotherJaybird at December 6,2008 12:25 AM)
If the government is looking to cut here's one. What up with this increase?
Status of Women – Office of the Coordinator
http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/est-pre/20082009/me-bd/pub/ME-001_e.PDF
24.5% increase for 2008-2009 budget
http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/est-pre/20082009/me-bd/pub/ME-001_e.PDF

CBC declares Krista and Me and CBC not biasssed.

Cue the LaughTrack: "CBC's office of the ombudsman, an independent body,".

Fire. Them. All.
...-

"CBC ombudsman clears reporter
By ROB NAY, SUN MEDIA
The Winnipeg Sun
A review of a CBC journalist previously based in Winnipeg has cleared her of bias allegations.

CBC's office of the ombudsman, an independent body, released a review of journalist Krista Erickson amidst allegations from federal Tories that she supplied questions to Liberals in Ottawa during the Mulroney-Schreiber hearings."

In late 2007, I raised the question of how Muslims would respond to Barack Obama, a born Muslim, were he elected president of the United States. Well, that has happened and this weblog entry reviews some prominent and interesting voices on this topic.

Convert to Islam or Else: An Egyptian Islamist, Hassan Abu Al-Ashbal, launched a three-part appeal to Obama: convert or do what we want – or else.

Courtesy of Daniel Pipes weblog...

That's what I hear: Krista has an independent body.

You can quote all the polls you want, vitrivial, when your dear leader turns tail and runs. You can extrapolate seat numbers till the cows come home, pc guy, after the pantload you worship has shut down democracy.

“Silencing the voice of MPs elected by Canadians, shutting down the House of Commons and continuing to cling on to power when you’ve lost the confidence of that house is not democracy.”

Spector highlights a wonderful editorial by Andre Pratte of La Presse. It puts the lie to the comment that calling the Boc Seperatist is not Anti Quebec.

Best quote, and one that shoudl be emblazoned in the PMO

"Refusing to bow to all our paradoxes is not to reject Québec."

It's ok to say you dont want Seperatists to hold the balance of power, you arent being a bigot, you arent being "anti quebec", there is nothing wrong with what has been said to date. Just dont expect the paradoxes to go away, you just arent forced to accept them yourselves.

The 'coalition's mode of operation silence all MPs except for those in the Bloc. The coalition sets up the Bloc, made up of MPs who are electorally out of reach of over 80% of the electorate, as the sole vetting Agent in the House.

This reduces the votes of ALL other MPs to irrelevance. All that counts is that Vetting Power.

Furthermore, the coalition does not put this arrangement to the people of Canada in a full election; they simply set it up by themselves, via backroom deals, using our money as bribes, offering Senate seats and cabinet positions. This is an abuse of not only the electorate but also of the parliamentary system.

Because something IS, ie, because there is nothing in the Constitution that says that you CAN'T do this, does not mean that you OUGHT to do it (famous distinction between Is and Ought).

The coalition's denial of the Canadian electorate's October vote, their refusal to put their coalition to the vote - is an abuse of the electorate.

Their coalition package, in itself, held together by a party out of the reach of the majority of Canadians, and with a signed agreement not to vote against confidence Motions..even before knowing the content of those Motions..is an abuse of our parliamentary system.

The Coalition is a totalitarian proposal and deeply violates the principles of democracy.

Hey Manny, what day next week was Parliament scheduled to adjourn for their 6 week Xmas break. Wed? Thurs?

Manny,

Sorry your team wasnt able to pull it off. But the government will still present a budget and you can vote on it. Isn't it in the interests of all Canadians that a budget, which is what this whole thing was about, be presented and voted on.

While I know you are certain that an election wasn't going to be called it might be....I look forward to the argument that an election isnt democratic.

Happy Holidays, make sure you tlak to your MP and make sure you contribute before Dec 31 and after Jan 1 to your favourite political party, assuming you do that kind of thing.

Perhaps while waiting for exciting political events we can watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92vV3QGagck

(Monty Python Soccer)

It's quite fascinating if you have and use your own brain.

Way too slow-paced for lefties to understand though.

ET. It is 2008. I'm sure there is medication out there that would treat your particular kind of dementia.

JustAnotherJayBird

Thanks for the reply, figures and link.

BCer

Roundup the Separatist Coalition.
Down the Separatist Coalition.
Long live Canada.
God Bless Stephen Harper.
...-

From Daily Blogger:

"# Joe Molnar Says:
December 6th, 2008 at 11:01 am

MSM blame Harper for percipitating a national crisis with the ” fiscal update”.

If anyone thinks it was a mistake rather than a plan they should reconsider.

Harper must have had inside info early on to the machinations of the Bloc and the Layton ND’s, immediately after the minority situation resulted.

Removing the taxpayer funding from political parties would drive the other parties instantly to a coalition, simply because of their financial need and self preservation.
Denying the civil service union the right to strike was another factor.

Pushing the Libs, Nd’s and Bloc immediately into a coalition was a master stroke , thereby moving them into far leftist territory ,and the country at at the mercy as it turns out of the separatist Bloc.

The GG had two choices, if the conservatives where defeated, call an election or prorogue parliament until a budget is presented.

The coalition option would have been ( and still will be ) the beginning of the end of Canada, based on Western Canada seeking separation. The petions are already out there.

Not only that, since all three leftist parties all propose universal day care funding (a communist notion) among other leftist planks, essentially thay are (all three) by ideology communists.

Giving Canada it’s first coalition communist government!!
# Lee Says:
December 6th, 2008 at 11:39 am

Joe Molnar, I think it went back farther.
I believe that Mr. Harper saw the formation of this coalition and thats why he called the October election, hoping to get a majority and put an end to this nonsense.
Anyway, for whatever reasons, whats done is done, and its time to take the long view.
How are we to vote now, knowing that a coalition could be formed at any time?
It seems to me that in order to put some sanity into our democracy, we need legislation to say that we cannot have a change in Government without going to the people."
http://jacksnewswatch.com/2008/12/06/daily-blogger-saturday-december-6th-2008/

Stephen at December 6, 2008 11:07 AM

Steve, could you dumb it down a bit for us knuckledraggers and reduce the triple negatives?

Most people want facts, not bafflegarb.

Oh wait - doing so would reduce employment levels of "news" media, unbiased pundits and the professional screechers.

0.01% unemployment is the Holy Grail, even if it means getting paid-for by government.

“Silencing the voice of MPs elected by Canadians, shutting down the House of Commons and continuing to cling on to power when you’ve lost the confidence of that house is not democracy.”

So says Boob Rae, who, according to Compass, has 4% support to be PM. Dwarfed by Steffi at 6%.

manny,

Why do you continue to publicly display your severely retarded mind? Do you have no self worth?

ET "The coalition sets up the Bloc, made up of MPs who are electorally out of reach of over 80% of the electorate, as the sole vetting Agent in the House."

Ok, agreed. I just can't figure out why you think that "out of reach of 80% of the electorate" is in any way relevant. What control would the electorate have if they ran in all 308? even won a seat outside of Quebec?

A NYT columnist pays tribute to hunters!

Just more proof of why the MSM WILL die, one-by-one, and go out of business soon.

They HAVE to employ these types of writers, till death-do-they-part:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/12/06/collins-palin-moose-murderer

"This reduces the votes of ALL other MPs to irrelevance. All that counts is that Vetting Power."

ET, you're quite right.

Based on their own rationale for a coalition, the Bloc holds the balance of power. The coalition can only function at the Bloc's prerogative.

The war needs to be re-positioned. It's not the left vs. the right.

It's the Separatists vs. Canada.

With this positioning they will be crushed, with no way out. And never to recover.

It's the Separatists vs. Canada.

Yeah,Western Separatists, hypocrite.

Anyone reporting on the Rally's? How the turnouts are?
thanks all

From Angry's blog:

"This [Liberal] party is like the scorpion on the frog crossing the river who kills the frog, its the nature of the beast. They just can't help themselves."

"Big Bad

To be in bed with the Bloc, or not to be. That is the question. Wether it is better to make a mad, short term dash for power or to defer the immediate quest for power? Never met a Liberal who didn't think that he was part of God's anointed owners of the power of the Canadian government.

With Rae as winner, come a new election, the Liberals will trade the chance of a short term hold on power for the long term pain of being in opposition as a political pariah associated with separatism. With Ignatieff as the winner, a sufficient sense of shame at this ill-considered move that the Liberals will trade a continued existence in opposition for a chance to rebuild and reconnect with the roots of the party and to build a true agenda. They truly have a great decision to make. I think they will go for Rae and the chance at a short-term hold on the levers of power. This party is like the scorpion on the frog crossing the river who kills the frog, its the nature of the beast. They just can't help themselves."

"Liberal Leadership: Focused on the short term"
http://stevejanke.com/archives/279292.php

Polls mislead eg.CTV reported that 58% of Canadians believe that Harper should not have extended our military presence in Afghanistan. It should have been 58% of those polled ---. As Kate says "don't speak for me"Dona J,

PiperPaul,

Did you comprehend the quote, what do you think it says? do you understand its context (as in it is from a the editor of La Presse, a soft nationalist paper)

It isnt that hard to understand, and if you think it is somehow justifying the coalition or excusing seperatists then maybe you are the self described "knuckle dragger".

Pratte's editorial says the Cons are not being provacative to oppose the Blocs participation and that the oppsosition to the Bloc is absolutely legitimate, untainted and understandable.

I think the quote perfectly captures the Quebec mindset. Let me put it terms you might get.....Telling your wife that her mother farts at the dinner table isnt the same as asking for a divorce. Is that a statement you have an issue with?

Mark Steyn cuts right to the chase at the National Review. Good, no punches article taking a big shot at the media about Mumbai and terrorists in general.

http://tinyurl.com/3vmfj

irwin:

PM Harper spelled it out clearly after he stepped out of the meeting with the governor-general.

He appealed to the federalist parties to work with him for the good of the country.

Although there are different visions among the three federalist parties, their primary interest is to make Canada a better place.

“My Canada includes Quebec," said Harper. ‘The Bloc's Quebec does not include Canada."

Even though the MSM is, even today, trying to twist Harper's words into an “attack" on all Quebeckers, his statement is pretty clear.

Ontarians heard this message loud and clear and that's why they are now on board.

I'm guessing the average Ontarian, my sister included, does not want taxpayers' money used to prop up the auto industry ... they see that as Layton's ploy as a spokesman for Big Labour.

Incidentally, is it any surprise to anybody that the response ads were paid for by the Canadian Labour Congress? This not only shows who the sponsors of the putsch are, but clearly demonstrates none of the opposition political parties have any money.

Watching manny's descent into madness is probably one of the funnier side effects of Coup Scam.

It's an absolute treasure watching a left winger with a tenuous grip on reality let go with both hands and plunge into screaming-at-clouds territory.

OIC: ISLAM, THE RELIGION OF PEACE, TOLERANCE AND COMPASSION

With the multiplicity of terrorist attacks perpetrated recently by deviant and fanatic individuals, the General Secretariat of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC) has noticed a tendency of a section of the media, to interpose the word "Islam" in reporting these incidences.

Islam, the religion of peace, tolerance and compassion, that sanctifies the human soul, and whose universal message is one of mutual peaceful coexistence among all the peoples of the world, regardless of their ethnicities, race, religions or languages, and which calls for kind reasoning and dialogue with all their fellow human beings, abhors and despises all such criminal acts and had enacted the utmost severe punishment for their perpetrators.

It is frustrating to see some circles, still, maliciously trying to establish conceptual link between such evil and wicked practices and Islam, the religion that condemns, scorns and outlaws them.

It is on the premise of this irrefutable fact that we, in the OIC, call upon all well-intentioned peoples of the world, not to give to these criminals any right to present Islam, a right that Islam itself denies them. Those who refer to the perpetrators, as acting on behalf of Islam, help them by offering them justification, anchor and premise that they don't have or deserve. On the other hand, the generalization of the guilt of a few aberrant misguided individuals, to engulf the adherents of a religion of 1.5 billion followers is an outrageous judgment and amounts to an illegal collective punishment on a global scale. Moreover, any attempt to implicate all Muslims in such a wicked and wanton acts goes contrary to the well established principles of international law.

It is therefore hoped that media will avoid resorting to any reference to Islam when narrating such events in order not to disseminate erroneous information that might jeopardize the basic human rights of Muslims, the world over.

.............

Right. But what about Mohammad?

"The worth of a State, in the long run, is the worth of the individuals composing it; and a State which postpones the interests of their mental expansion and elevation, to a little more of administrative skill, or that semblance of it which practice gives, in the details of business; a State which dwarfs its men, in order that they may be more docile instruments in its hands even for beneficial purposes, will find that with small men no great thing can really be accomplished; and that the perfection of machinery to which it has sacrificed everything, will in the end avail it nothing, for want of the vital power which, in order that the machine might work more smoothly it has preferred to banish."

John Stuart Mill

Yeah,Western Separatists, hypocrite.

Posted by: manny at December 6, 2008 12:36 PM

Canada vs the Separatists.

Ran it up the pole and manny saluted. Guess it'll work.

Canadian soldiers in Iraq.

"Attending the ceremony":

"Canadian Army Brig. Gen. Nicolas Matern, Multi-National Corps".

Mission Accomplished.
Well done, loyal and true servants of freedom and democracy. Bravo.
...-

"Czech Republic at End of Mission
Saturday, 06 December 2008"

http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24202&Itemid=128

"Attending the ceremony, in addition to Voznica, Salazar and Ghazi, were Romanian Army Brig. Gen. Mihai Chirita, deputy director, Multi-National Force - Iraq CJ5 coalition; Canadian Army Brig. Gen. Nicolas Matern, Multi-National Corps – Iraq deputy commanding general - Coalition and Infrastructure, and Iraqi Army Brig. Gen. Sabah, Commander of Taji Location Command."

"The Jobs Bank was set up by mutual agreement between U.S. automakers and the United Auto Workers union to protect workers from layoffs."

Is this what Taliban Jack wants?

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5185887

A bunch of pictures from the "anti-coalition" event in Calgary 06 December 2008. Please note my awesome photographic talent to focus on the back of people's heads.

http://canadacomments.com/images/IMG_0261.JPG

thru

http://canadacomments.com/images/IMG_0275.JPG

It was a quiet, respectful event, very Canadian.

Some applauded often, I reserved mine for after our national anthem.

I was at the Winnipeg rally. Despite temperatures around -20°C, I estimate about 500 people there. The speeches were pretty good. Vic Toews went on for a bit too long, Rod Bruinooge and Shelly Glover had a short but sweet tag-team speech (I'm biased--Rod is my MP and friend), Hugh McFadyen was a little flat, and Charles Adler was a barnburner but considering the cold, too long-winded.

I thought this was pretty and apropos in these troubled economic times:

Man Submits Drawing Of Spider Instead Of Payment For Overdue Account
http://www.geekologie.com/2008/11/good_idea_man_submits_drawing.php

I thought this was pretty apropos in these troubled economic times:

Man Submits Drawing Of Spider Instead Of Payment For Overdue Account
http://www.geekologie.com/2008/11/good_idea_man_submits_drawing.php

Not very often there's something written at the TorStar that would be worth posting here.

http://tinyurl.com/56mey7

Emily Mathieu
Dale Anne Freed
Staff Reporters

It's not the sort of formal, posed photograph often presented in remembrance of a fallen soldier. But for the father of one of three Canadian soldiers killed yesterday in Afghanistan it represents one of the most cherished memories he has of his son.

"Believe it or not my favourite picture is this one, when he was little," said Anargyros Diplaros, pulling a photo of a rosy-cheeked infant from his wallet last night at his east Toronto home near Kennedy Rd. and Eglinton Ave. E.

"That was my little guy, always happy, even on sick days he never lost his humour or smile."

Pte. Demetrios Diplaros, 24, was killed alongside Warrant Officer Robert John Wilson, of Keswick, Ont., and Cpl. Mark Robert McLaren, 23, of Peterborough, when their armoured vehicle struck an improvised explosive device outside of Kandahar city.

Their deaths mark a grim milestone, 100 Canadians killed in active duty since combat began in 2002, including seven from the GTA.

Last night, Diplaros' father, with his own two brothers, Nick and Peter, and their mother Martha, sat in the basement of his home.

"I was proud of him. I was proud of what he was doing, serving his country. But at the same time, like a father, I was telling him to be careful and wishing all the best."

Demetrios Diplaros, born and raised in Scarborough, was interested in the military from an early age, inspired by images of his father, who served in the Greek military.

"He would tell me so many times he wanted to be like his father," the elder Diplaros said. "I said if that is what you want to do I am behind you 100 per cent, but always reminded him that the army and bullets and everything is not like a video game. It's a different story. It's real."

That pride prompted Demetrios Diplaros to join the army three years ago.

Last month, the young soldier was home on vacation and told his father about the friends he had made among his fellow Canadian troops and the American soldiers they met along the way.

"He was very happy. He understood all the circumstance. He knew he was there to serve his county," said the father. "He told me it was a crazy situation there."

He left for Afghanistan on Nov. 20 and was to return home in April.

Wilson was a career soldier and no stranger to Afghanistan, said his aunt Debbie Sedore, when reached at her home in Keswick last night. "He had gone over there lots and lots of times."

Wilson was born and raised in Keswick until he joined the military at 18. He had a daughter, Emily, and son, Owen, both under the age of 10.

"We were always concerned every time he went over but that is the way they want to go. That is what they want to do," Sedore said.

If everything went well, this tour was supposed to be Wilson's last. "He didn't want to go this time, he wanted to teach," said Sedore.

Wilson had been asked to train men and women entering the military and was excited about the prospect, but his superiors tapped him on the shoulder one more time.

"They asked him to come over one more time to lead those boys and he agreed to it," Sedore said.

McLaren was no stranger to danger. He was wounded by friendly fire on his first tour of Afghanistan in 2006 when a U.S. Air Force pilot mistakenly attacked.

His father, Alan McLaren, when reached at his Peterborough home last night, called his son "my hero."

"He was living his dream. He was doing what he wanted to do, what he believed was right. He knew his chances – and he was still willing to go," the elder McLaren said.

His son was several months into his second tour of duty and was due to return home for a break in 40 days. It was to be his last tour.

"This being his second time, he knew exactly what he was up against," said his father. "It's a tough one."

It was McLaren's girlfriend, a tearful Michelle Shaw, who broke the news to his parents early yesterday morning.

McLaren didn't know when his tour would end, but he was working on a pictorial book about a soldier's life in Kandahar.

"He took our camera with him. He wanted to take good pictures," said stepmother Jo-Anne McLaren.

Now it's his father's dream "to finish that book" for his son.

"That will give us something to look forward to keep ourselves occupied to know we've done something for him," said his father.

The three soldiers were all based at CFB Petawawa, and by coincidence, Prime Minister Stephen Harper was there yesterday for a previously scheduled morale-boosting visit. His voice sounded close to breaking as he addressed a crowd of troops and commiserated with their losses.

"I know that this community will again, as you have in the past, embrace those families touched by the loss of these fine young soldiers," Harper said.

"But I have to tell you I never feel able to put the depths of my feelings at times like this into adequate words."

While the nation marked a tragic milestone, none of the troops at Petawawa is counting – to a soldier, each loss is keenly felt.

"One hundred, one, 10, it's all the same. It's all brothers in arms, they're all a close-knit family, we all serve for the same reasons," said Pte. Rocky Gauthier, of the 2nd Service Battalion.

Col. Dean Milner, commander of the 2 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group at CFB Petawawa, said the soldiers killed yesterday were part of a liaison team helping to train Afghan National Army soldiers to eventually take over responsibility for the area's security.

With files from Richard J. Brennan and Bruce Campion-Smith

Outstanding. Next pub night I'm going to anonymously pay a few rounds for the soldiers that gather there.

Something is up.

What if you held a Rally & Nobody Came?

Well i dont exactly mean that, What i do mean is the Media is Not reporting the Ant-Coalition And all i have seen on ctv.ca is the Coalition Rally with a small blip about the Ottawa Non-Coaltion rally. There was even a phone call report from a ctv reporter at the Ottawa Rally saying their are thousand's & that clip has disapeared.
So what's going on? A blackout?
Looking at the Radar Southern Ontario is getting Pumeled by snow, Here in Grey/Bruce/Owen Sound we have the calm before the storm in the bubble, But the penninsula is getting it now.
Take care all
have a great weekend

Can someone tell me who operates the "National Newswatch" website. It seems to me that the majority of news items they put on the site are either anti-Harper or anti- conservative. Any comments?

I went to the rally at city hall here in Windsor. Not a bad turnout considering the weather. Quite nasty.
If anyone else commenting here was there (remote possibility at best), I was the dummy with the 'right wing attack dog'. I bring my Rotty everywhere.
The modest turnout aside, it touched me as truly Canadian. It was low key and (yikes) very diverse. Old, young, union and non...You get the picture.
Thanks for staying strong everyone. And don't forget, this fight is far from over. We've basically got a couple weeks to refill our quiver, then back to the battle field.
And, I'd love to see some photos from other rallys. I brought my camera, but it was all messed up with condensation.
Later.
Sam.

Piper Paul, thanks for the clip absolutely priceless. ROTFLMAO. Back to reading the rest of the comments in a minute.

"Can someone tell me who operates the "National Newswatch" website. It seems to me that the majority of news items they put on the site are either anti-Harper or anti- conservative. Any comments?"

Owned and run by CTVglobemedia. Answer your question?

I was at the rally in Victoria and was extremely disappointed at the turnout when I was there, probably less than 100. Driving home I got to thinking that really for an off the cuff rally the numbers weren't that bad. Now with a six week hiatus we have to get organized and keep the powder dry. The unions, (auto , psac et al) are going to spend their members money to organize FOR the coalition so we'd better get organized for Canada and Democracy. To the rally organizers "Thank you" for starting this to the rest of you get off your duffs. This country has lost hundreds of thousands of people to establish this great country, the lastest hundred have given their lives to spread our ideals of democracy, if we let this coalition succeed then all of these sacrifices will have been for nought. Watch this and substitute Canada and Canadians where appropriate. ( Loading from page:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zwMtvCMLioBack to results)

Very good turnout in Kelowna. Two hundred or so.

The young people we're obviously very passionate about preserving democracy. A grade 11 student initiated the rally organization - Nagan Ritz, I believe.

Even before the rally speeches, most we're already aware of the taxpayer subsidy thing !! Thanks to Jack & Gill & Yawn. A real sore point. Yes, in both cases :)

Skip, NONE of the media are interested in anything against their Liberals and anyone they decide to link up with including the Separatists.
Today is no different, honesty will only come from blogs and some talk shows where the REAL people give their views.

Good column in the National Post by Terence Corcoran today, "The coalition of the union wage gap". Sorry don't have a link.

SamS, I was at the rally this morning. It was a terrible drive from McGragor and I thought where was Windsor - Oh yeah it's all NDP. I found it very sad and the tears just wouldn't stop trickling down my cheeks. To think that are ancestors and the present men and women in our forces are dying for someone elses liberty and we have that mishmash trying to remove ours. I just hope that my face doesn't appear on the nightly news. I am glad it was no colder than was. I looked for you in that rather hhhmm crowd but didn't see you. LOL

Manny, you seem just another of those who arrogantly think they know the mind, and therefore intentions, of the voter when they enter the polling booth. You don't. You ignore any evidence (recent public opinion polls for example that totally repudiate that Canadians have no confidence in PM Harper) that refutes your "argument."

Did it ever occur to you that many people (I know quite a few of them), voted "against" Harper and the CPC, even though they were quite fine with CPC government, even if in minority.

I have a friend who voted Liberal, but prefers Harper as PM. What don't you understand about this reality?

Many are flabbergasted at the arrogance of a coalition, that is supported by a party that elects members in only one province (it could be Saskatchewan and be just as wrong, so spare us your Western separatists are hypocrites crap), that demands immediate action, but proposes that a new government be appointed, that will take months to get up to speed, to present a proper budget; that still hasn't presented to Canadians the full terms of their agreement, or how they plan to implement their policies.

Many people feel the "coalition" not only wants to deny the right to vote on their approach, but wants to cancel the vote they just made.

Look in the mirror before you call others hypocrites.

bryanr @ 12:39 PM: I was at a rally and have a post I'll probably make soon. But I'm really disappointed there's not a dedicated thread here for this most important event. There are a few places here for commenting on the rallies. I think this topic needs to have its own place.

The equally important story here is the despicable behaviour of the MSM, which have deliberately either ignored the details or egregiously spun them. The MSM’s complete lack of professionalism—forget that: their deliberate SABOTAGE of the truth—is absolutely disgusting.

Do they care? No. They laugh.

Postscript -- Yes Sam S. my husband said he saw I guy with a dog. I didn't my face I kept buried in my coat. There was a fellow there with his 3 little boys building a snow hill to put a Canadian flag on top. A somber but congenial group.

So, let me get this straight.

Stephane Dion is annointed unanimously by the coalition as it's leader and future Prime Minister.

A week later, they want to dump him and replace him with an interim leader and possible Prime Minister, say maybe Ralph Goodale or John McCallum.

Then, after a leadership convention, they want to replace the replacement with, say Bob Rae or Michael Ignatieff, who would then become the for sure, for sure Prime Minister, honest they swear it's true this time.

This is the stability that Canadians are so desperate for.

I think we should all be reminding the GG about this "really solid plan."

Just in case.

Disgusting editorial in todays Toronto Star:

"Meme of the week: Coup d'etat"

As Canada's constitutional scholars basked in their 15 minutes of fame, calmly explaining the various possible constitutionally permitted outcomes of the week's drama - a significant percentage of the country reacted less rationally. "A coup," they spat - encouraged by Stephen Harper and his minions - in coffee shops and, by the dozens, in comments on newspaper websites. Never mind that the actions of the coalition have been perfectly legal, though undeniably surprising and arguably detrimental to the country; never mind that they were trying to wrest power from a party that received a mere 37.6 per cent of the popular vote. THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THE SPUTTERING OF AN UNEDUCATED BUT HARD-DONE-BY VOTER.

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Good one. Insult half the country, and then cry the blues about plummeting readership, subscriptions and stock.

This paper can't die soon enough.

Dec 8, 2008 is Aied celebration for Muslim
mobarak

Famous Muslims:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNK9Vk7tMUo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n_f0etlghg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSWtsB-k0rk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB5QBzquBrU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpAOr3mIjt8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbOZcKhkfEA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbOZcKhkfEA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njiGZKFoyWQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zIlPa_f-_M&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkMovAguAlA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpaLkldETt8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n_f0etlghg&feature=related

they may not really restricted to all rules
but they can call themselves Muslim

the funny one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TJG0qwOuaw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmh91e-kXQ4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRcOns7uRLY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zaSF7XsCOU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olT3FtGo35o&feature=related