I'll be at the rally tomorrow for sure. Nothing is going to stop this.

I've talked a whole whack of people into going - a few of which may even show up ;)

WHOO HOO! Now we NEED an election! I will be going to Rally for Canada in Ottawa on Parliament Hill, I've been planning to go all week.

It is strange how all our media has mentioned the poll results except the Toronto Star !!

i think a little bit funny
it is what Mr.Dion said
" could we repeat and do it again"
nobody get it what he meant by say that words
now i can understand what he meant by that

why not let do new round
i may this time vote to one person

really i am not joking i really will won
by know each person details of their plan
on the table
and it better do not copy cat of each others
and do not copy from Mr. Obama too

please do not forget here is called CANADA
WE CAN DO ANYTHING WE WANT AS LONG AS
ALL IS IN PURPOSE OF BETTER GOVERNMENT

WE NEED THOSE GROUP PROOF TO NORMAL MID CLASS CAANDAIN WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO
AND WE PROMISE FIRST LISTEN TO ALL
THEN WE MADE VOTE TO THE BEST PERSON
WHO HAD BETTER IDEAS AND DO HIS HOMEWORK WELL
FOR BETTER CANADA

Let's do it again

I could not stop laugh of hearing all new voice
because government with minority is funny
either must be majority to do what they plan to do or some one who know better or join of three group in modle of one do the job

it is hard for Mr.Harper to work also with miniroty vote

he is PM but not able to do PM solely job too

I am sorry for Mr.Harper really
but it is benefit all of us to have majority government to have minority to work with hard time and no max power to deliver thier plan

BTW good luck to all for new election if we expect to have new one
we still waiting toknow detail plan to made choice

In Ottawa from noon until 2 p.m. on Parliament Hill. I have my sign ready.

The "talking points" that the Tories derive from this episode (in bed with the separatists, etc.) will rival the old Lib favorites like the "hidden agenda". This will be the Christmas gift that keeps on giving.

Kate,

With a smile on my face ... isn't it indeed a reflection of the strange times we're in that we don't want people feeling too good about the Conservative Party's new extraordinary poll numbers?!

Rain or Shine, I'm DEFINITELY going down to Vancouver's Library Square tomorrow!

Make no mistake folks, if the turnout is low, this WILL be used against us when the Coalition (or its successor) tries to once again take power in 2009!!!

Robert

I will be attending the rally in Kelowna tomorrow. I really wonder how many people will show as the people in this valley seem to live in their own world.

No protest at Ralphie's Regina office? Too bad.

I've rearranged my day to be there.

Maybe I'll take my Union Jack!

Take Note on how many people are said to have attended the rally's & Note to as who they interview when the Media do their report's.
Note that the Media(ctv)said their were over a thousand at the Boistrous Ottawa rally.
It would be nice too if any attending could do "Live Blogging" for those of us that are unable to attend but whole heartedly support the Rally's.
Thankyou & Bestwishes to all that Attend the Rally's & Keep the Tempers Cool as this is what the Media loves to report on.

new , you got your typing accent back!!!

I said it during the election and I'll say it again - stop making fun of the way Dion speaks because these blogs are monitored by the media and they will use it to show we are anti-Quebecois.

I think Dion is a clown too and his video was a classic kneeslapper, but I don't try to imitate him to make fun of him.

By the way it is sometimes painful to listen to Harper speak in French, not because of his accent which is not too bad, but because he doesn't have more than a practical vocabulary in French. You can see him using the same phrases and words over and over because he is unable to go into any rhetorical flourish. Several times during his speech after meeting with the G.G. you could see him almost get lost in his thoughts because he has to spend too much of his energy just translating in his head. Too bad because his sincerity comes through, but he can never inspire in French.

Kate.
I cancelled a hunting trip to attend tomorrows rally.

Boy was I in the dumps, for it would be last time this year I could go push some bush with a bang stick to put game on the table.

Until I realized I was going on a "political" hunting trip with fellow "true" Canadians.

Anyone in Winnipeg or surrounding area, its 12:00 - 2:00 at the Legislative grounds downtown! Vic Toews, Hugh McFadyen and Charles Adler are speaking.

Here is the facebook event listing!

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=37409629405

Our soldiers wear one uniform under one flag for one reason Freedom and Democracy.
They wear their uniform hold our nation'flag with pride, honour and respect.
Their love for freedom which they have in abundance is not to be kept selfishly but to share it with the world.
They love Freedom and Democracy so much that they are willing to sacrifice their lives for those who hunger for it.
Their blood shared for us will be engraved in stone.
Let's us all help them fight for our democracy our country and our flag.
________________
I pray that God will embrace our troops who lost their lives for those who yearn for the love of Freedom and Democray

I'm hoping to be able to get back to S'toon in time for this.

Nicola - Most Canadians are tired of pandering to Quebec. 40 years of tired.

Yahoo on that Compas Poll. CPC-51%... I haven't seen numbers like that in Canada for any political party in over 20 years, if not more.
The media spin is making me sick to my stomach and I had to e-mail them all and nail their miserable hides to the back wall of their e-mail clients.
The Rallys for our Conservatives are all across the country and in Vancouver are from 12:00 to 2:00 PM.
I hear that Bob Rae 'has taken it on himself to go around the country to push for the coalition'.
I also heard that he was shouting orders in the caucus meeing to both Dion and Ignatieff.
If they can be bossed around by an old NDP idiot like Bob Rae then neither one of them are worthy of dog catcher, let alone leader of party, coalition, whatever they are calling themselves today.
I want to see the conservatives get a huge majority but the way this thing is going , that may not be necessary for the forseeable future as the coalition seems to be falling apart by the hour. When we get to the Budget presentation in the House the end of January, it might be a whole new ballgame. If the two senior Liberals are encouraging liberals to cross the floor because they are so disgusted with getting in bed with the Bloc and NDP, Conservatives might have a majority by the time parliament re-convenes and if not , I doubt the coalition will have the nerve to vote down a budget the entire country is waiting for as a necessary means to keep the economic viability on track. I hear Ignatieff and Dion want to support the budget and therefore Bob Rae has now taken the 'reins' of the coalition to promote it countrywide. I hope this is seen by everyone for what it is. Bob Rae wants to be PM. I hope this move puts him in the political wilderness for the next 20 years. We don't need him in Ottawa doing to the country what he did to Ontario. Not now. Not ever!

"new , you got your typing accent back!!!

Posted by: cal2 at December 5, 2008 5:06 PM"

It did? I skipped over it once I saw the length and horrid paragraph structure. Should have guessed.

How long to we have to kiss Quebec's ass to make them feel they are Canadians? If the stupid bastards don't feel like they are part of Canada yet, they never are going to. Big deal you are French, get over it. I am to the point I would like to take a big chainsaw, cut them out of Canada, and float them down the St. Lawerence.

CPC 51, LPC 20, NDP 10, BQ 8, GPC 6

Good numbers, but .... I expected better.

Just what does the LPC and NDP have to do to drop to single digits? During this entire fiasco, these parties proved without a shadow of a doubt that they are unprincipled, selfish and just plain stupid.

The way that they've conducted themselves lately should result in a score of zero, or close to it.

I plan to attend my local event.

While there, I will be contemplating how it appears that Bob Rae is after Jack Layton's job.

Bob Rae, the only man who can unite the left.

Nicola, New wasn't making fun of the way Dion mangles English.
Re the rally: Unfortunately, Kingston isn't participating so hope I can rely on honest media coverage.

I have been talking to hard core lefties, and they are pissed at the sepratist/lib/ndp coaliton. I wish an election were called, to put the last nail in the coffin of the lefties.

Post by: Nicola Timmerman; I do sort of agree with you that we should not make to much fun of Dion. It's so hard though, he leaves so many openings for a person to take. As for PMSH to speak french and carry on a speech, I don't know about that one. Usually they talk in circles until you lose all interest in the subject and you ask what and they have to start all over again. It reminds of one real master at it 'PET'. Could talk for an hour and by the end of it you never knew what 'PET' was telling you. PMSH talks in very calm modulated voice with no waste of words and he puts the point across very well.

I will be attending the rally tomorrow at Parliament Hill in Ottawa and am really looking foward to it! I hope that we get a really good crowd, at least more than the union rally yesterday which was reported to be around 1000.

Caroline from Gatineau

Tomorrow is an aniversary of Montreal Massacre. Day to remember that 19 years ago “Gamil Gharbi” Algerian-born son of a Muslim wife-beater killed 14 young Canadian women and wounded 13 more with a Ruger Mini-14 at L’Ecole Polytechnic in Montreal.

You cannot hold a pro-Canada Rally on day like that. It is the most sacred day of the year according to Canadian Feminist Calendar. Canadian feminists are already furious that people call "a typical and ordiary Canadian male Marc Lepine" by his real name “Gamil Gharbi”. How could you possibly run a proper gender war by protesting against mass murders committed by Muslim immigrant from Algeria??? It would look kind of stupid and it could possibly put feminists on one side with Conservatives and that would look totally nonsensical and ridiculous.

'See everybody there!!

I am attending the one in Edmonton at the provincial legislature building.

Oh, FGS: Rob Rousseau on Newman's Politics on CBC is talking about the "danger" to Canadian unity of alienating the Bloc Quebecois.

EXCUSE ME?

How the He** can we possibly have Canadian unity by playing footsy with the Blockheads? They want the dissolution of a united Canada, for Heaven's sake.

Could we please get real--or is that too much to ask of political commentators in the MSM? I think I already know that answer to that one ...

I'll be at Queen's Park.

Dear Karol, I always think about the Montreal massacre each year at this time. And I will tomorrow, just like I'll be thinking of the 3 Canadians soldiers who were recently killed.

You trying to connect a pro-democracy rally with a slap in the face of women is both despicable and disingenuous.

Kitchener...12 noon in Victoria park!!

Snowbunnie wondered about the historical comparison of the current 51% support of the Conservatives in the latest poll.

I was curious too and just posted this to check: http://pelalusa.blogspot.com/2008/12/positive-signs-all-around.html

Snow or shine, I'll be at the Manitoba Legislative Building tomorrow. :)

BTW, the political "pundits" on Newman were talking negatively about the rallies this weekend, vis a vis "Canadian unity."

Please, please, a majority CPC government, so we can chuck the CBC altogether. If there's any "danger" to "Canadian unity" it's the asshat punditry we get at the Mother Corpse every day--and, to add insult to injury, we the taxpayers have to pay for it.

Mercy!

There will a moment of silence for the montreal massacre in Calgary tomorrow

When the Liberals/NDP/BLOC say they are listening to what Canadians want and that this was all Harper's fault quote this:

OTTAWA - A clear majority of Canadians believe that political parties should not be funded by the public purse, according to a new poll that suggests Prime Minister Stephen Harper was on the right track when he eliminated the subsidy, sparking outrage from the opposition parties.

Sixty-one per cent of voters said they oppose federal political parties securing $1.95 annually for each vote, which is a major source of party funding.
---
So, really WHO is listening to Canadians??????

Is it just me or something??? I can't find the CBC's reports on the various poll results. :P

WOOOOOOOO!
That is all.

How about that 62% majority business? Pretty embarrassing now I guess, eh?

Seems the new polls have the added benefit of chasing the usual trolls back under the bridge.

Where's the ever ridiculous manny? Iberia? Liberal Ron? 'Professional photographer' Davidson?

Be aware that organized labour is mobilizing the faithful for pro-coalition counter-demonstrations at the same time as the Rallies for Canada. For example, the Ontario Secondary School Teachers' Federation sent a memo to all its members today urging them to attend a pro-coalition rally in Toronto at Nathan Philips Square at the same time as the Rally for Canada at Queen's Park. They are chartering buses to bring in demonstrators to Toronto from all over southern Ontario. It's really important under these circumstances for us to get our message across and turn out in large numbers.

HEH. Iggy just said on Politics that NO LIBERAL would ever enter into any agreement that would see one province given preferential treatment over another so this whole BLOC thing is just Harper trying to create divisions in the Liberal party.

Gee - Duceppe was already bragginbg that Quebec was going to get $1.2 BILLION MORE and that this 3 comrades deal gave him every single demand that he had made. And, that was just the beginning.

To see some his demands , that are just for Quebec BTW does anyone have access to Hansard where Duceppe said he made his demands in the HOuse and also in a meeting with the Prime MInister who asked for all party input towards next year’s budget. Gilles said he was upset because Harper IGNORED his demands.

That’s right, Gilles - NEXT YEAR”S BUDGET - for April 1st allocations- not 2008 fiscal year.

So - maybe someone should tell Iggy that HIS coalition WAS ready to give Quebec preferential treatment over the other provinces and GOSH - if NO Liberal would EVER do that …..maybe this whole charade is against Liberal values????

I don't think Canadians are going to buy the busloads of union personnel "rallying" in Toronto. We're all getting wise to this smoke and mirrors stuff.

No doubt, the busloads of lefties will be getting a packed lunch and a refrigerator magnet on top of the bus ride.

I am attending the one in Edmonton at the provincial legislature building.

So am I Merle. I'll be carrying a Canadian flag so I should stand out! I'll have my digi cam and vid recorder so will send some pics when I get back.

Man wouldn't I just love to see a couple hundred thousand people walking in downtown Edmonton.

Marie at 6:29 PM:

You're kidding? Does Iggy think we're so stupid that we can't do basic arithmetic, that we don't know that 114 is less than 143? The only way they can get more than 143 is with the BQ's support and that that support will not come cheap?

Quebec will get preferential treatment under the coalition, no ifs, and or buts; it won't work otherwise.

Food for thought from Chucker, in his comment section isn't it interesting that in a few months time, Charest and Harper might have majority governments and a constitution might get signed by all provinces. finally.

You might find interesting this little correspondence I've had in the past 24 hours with a longtime friend of mine. Unfortunately for him, he's a public school teacher in Vancouver and so has been forced to drink the ultra-left Kool-Aid:

ME:
Can I assume that you didn't drink the same Kool Aid as your Liberal in-laws on this matter? I found it a great affront to our democracy that such a coalition was formed so soon after the past election and before event the first budget. And I would have said precisely the same thing had the Liberals been in power and the Conservatives tried the same hijinks.

HIM:
I think Stevo has shown his true colours stirring up false information about the role of the bloc Q in the 'coalition', yet alone what is constitutionally allowed.
Isn't 62% of parliament non-conservatives? Now if only Celine Dion's dad would step down and let Bob Rae step in we'd might get somewhere.

ME:
You're turning into a true Radical Leftist in your old age. I'm truly embarrassed for you to be blaming Stephen Harper for this. To be selling your soul as a Western Canada, doubly so.

New polls out:
- Redacted so that comment will appear on SDA -

But don't let the facts get in the way of your HATE for Harper!

From Blue Like You comments: This is your reply at the rally when they call Harper a tyrant for closing down parliament. Chretien did it to avoid the public knowing about the theft of more than $100 million of YOUR money!!!!

Was Chretien a dictator, tyrant, undemocratic lying scumbag too?

.

“While information on the misuse of funds had been known for a few years, a fuller account of the situation was made public in early February 2004 by Auditor General Sheila Fraser.

In her report, Fraser revealed that up to $100 million of the $250 million spent on the sponsorship program from 1996 to 2001 had been paid for little or no work.

It is interesting to note that Fraser’s report was originally scheduled to be released in November 2003, when Jean Chr�tien was Prime Minister.

However, parliament prorogued and the report could not be tabled until parliament reconvened in 2004.

Late in 2003 Chr�tien retired and Paul Martin was chosen as the new leader of the Liberal Party, thus becoming Prime Minister. The fall-out from the scandal now landed squarely in Martin’s lap.”

"Take Note on how many people are said to have attended the rally's & Note to as who they interview when the Media do their report's." -bryanr at 5:01

That last part has always gotten right up my nose - the way the camera crews will scour the land looking for the one person in a thousand who will give them the quote they want. Or worse, totally fabricate an "interview" with a "typical" member of the crowd.

I've often wondered how effectively their guns could be spiked if small teams of people, armed with their own video cameras (and lots of spare batteries) were to simply follow the media's camera crews around and record their every move, every word, and every interview. This would create a permanent record of what they actually encountered and saw and heard, for comparison with what they REPORTED as having encountered and seen and heard.

Even more useful in proving their biases would be the intra-team comments to each other as they seek out the prospective interviewee who best meets their stereotype profile. As too many politicians have learned, it's what's said when the mike is supposed to be off that can do the most damage.

It's my guess that the typical camera crew wouldn't have a clue that they were being monitored in this way - not until a few embarrassing videos end up on YouTube or some such.

And they can't complain, can they? Sauce for the goose and all that ....

The location of the Rally for Canada in Montreal is Trudeau's office? Heh.

Dear Robert W. re your post at 5:58 PM.

If you feel that making connection between a pro-democracy rally with a slap in the face of women is both despicable and disingenuous you have to take that up with NDP MP Irene Mathyssen.

http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/Local/2008/12/05/7642016-sun.html

Critics blast political rally on day for victims

Fri, December 5, 2008
By KELLY PEDRO

Holding a political rally on a day set aside to remember women who have been victims of violence is "a slap in the face," a London MP charged yesterday.

An angry London-Fanshawe NDP MP Irene Mathyssen was joined by women's advocates who also said rallies tomorrow to protest attempts in Ottawa to replace the Harper federal government with a coalition party are inappropriate.

"For them to use a day to remember our obligation to women . . . for their crass political purpose is beyond description," said Mathyssen.

In London, a noon rally protesting the coalition is being held at the same time a ceremony remembering women who have been victims of violence is taking place at Brescia University College.

That's disrespectful, said the event organizer Kim Young Milani, director of The Circle Women's Centre at Brescia.

"Would you hold this on Remembrance Day?" she asked.

Ceremonies are held nationwide every year on Dec. 6 to remember the day an enraged Marc Lepine walked into Montreal's l'Ecole Polytechnique and shot and killed 14 women engineering students.

In 1991, the government declared Dec. 6 the National Day of Remembrance and Action on Violence Against Women.

Megan Walker, executive director of the London Abused Women's Centre, called the rallies' timing "inappropriate."

"It speaks to me about how insignificant Dec. 6 has become . . ." Walker said, adding she'd feel the same way about any political rally being held tomorrow. "The government has failed in sending the message Dec. 6 is a national day of remembrance."......

Here is the link where you can share your opinions:
http://www.rightcrazy.com/

Nice to see organized labour being so active in supporting the coalition, just helps make it more clear who's beholden to who.

When Jack talks about 'working families', he really means union working families.

Keynsian-style stimulative spending is not exactly an open and shut case.

Economic rocket scientist with proven track record Jack Layton and his waterboy Stephane Dion hope that their changealition creates enough "good-paying" jobs in Quebec to appease the Bloc Beast.

Lots of graphs and stats to help put our situation in Canada into perspective:

http://www.fin.gc.ca/ec2008/pdf/EconomicStatement2008_Eng.pdf

Will be my first rally evvah !

Rutland Centennial Hall
180 Rutland Rd (off Hyw 33)
Kelowna

12-2pm

Hey Snowbunnie welcome back haven't seen you for a while. On the subject perhaps the reason that Ignatief has been keeping a low profile from this mess is because he spent a lot of his professional years in Britain. His academic fellows there may have warned him that to form a coalition without Royal consent is to conspire against the Crown. The constitutional experts here are playing up the the role of the Governor General as a referee. RIGHT! Well she just blew the whistle and called a time out. If the coalition want to govern that badly then they should have combined when they were legally able to do so. To form one after the election without Royal Consent is to subvert our whole parliamentary system. There are rules in every game and the three amigos want to throw them out the window. If the GG can't explain the rules to these clowns and to all the pundits in the press and on the radio and television then the rallies tomorrow are only the start. See you in Victoria.

bryanr at December 5, 2008 5:01 PM

I saw a refernce to "thousands" for yesterday's PSAC rally.

Where does PSAC get to determine who is the government?

COMPAS: CPC 51, LPC 20, NDP 10, BQ 8, GPC 6

Celine Stephane Dion:

Zees ess not fair! Do you know how hard eet eez to make zee priority?!

:(

Here is Newman at the CBC/Pravda.

Your tax dollars paid for this propaganda.

Newman: "Prime Minister Stephen Harper is apparently like someone with a drinking problem who can keep it under control much of the time,".

CBC. Fire. Them. All.
...-

"The coalition crisis and the lessons learned"
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/12/05/f-vp-newman.html

Karol, my apologies! But the way you worded your earlier post, it sounded like YOU were the one making that statement. May I add that I'm not surprised it is an NDP MP saying such a thing. Only a Radical Leftist would be so loathsome as to try to spin the sincere, heartfelt efforts of Canadians to come out on their day off to support democracy - as disrespectful to women.

Doug: I'm there with you, amigo! Guaranteed, the media will film 20 people. 19 will be in support of the recent actions of the GG but the one that will appear on the TV will be the Radical Leftist. The media are TRULY the worst enemy of Canadians.

Speaking of which, if/when Harper gains a majority I would love for him to either shut down CBC News altogether -OR- fire everyone and then rehire 50% of them and hire anew 50% of people who can prove that they speak for the rest of us.

The busloads of lefties (public employee union members and heavy smokers - you know, "working families") will be out to draw the TV cameras. CTV and CBC have probably already decided which rallies they will broadcast.

Nicola, Yesterday I listened to Dave Rutherford when PMSH was speaking to the press about the prorogation of parliment.Dave made us listen to both the English and the French translations, the Prime Minister said EXACTLY the same thing in both languages.The reason Dave made us listen to both was so that we could hear both translations and make up our own minds without the MSM trying to spin things.They want us to believe that PMSH cannot converse in French. I believe that PMSH is fluent in both languages and does get his message across to both the English and French speakers. There is very possibly a regional accent that is coming into play with the language thing.He did say EXACTLY the same words in both languages. Sorry that argument about PMSH's French does not work anymore. Dion is a fool who thinks he is too brilliant by half. He deserves all the ridicule we can give him.Why is it ok for a Quebecquois to speak fractured English but everyone who speaks English must also speak impeccable French? Your double standard is sticking way out.

I'll be at the rally in Fredericton. I'm bringing my 10 year old daughter. Might as well bring'em up right. ;-)

Citoyen Dionky's World.

Last words from Citoyen Dionky's printed version:

"“I will serve my country until my time to serve is at an end,”".

Here are the ambiguities: Citoyen is referring to which country as "my country"? France, Canada, Quebec, the World, Dionky's World?

>>>>> "The last sentence of the printed version of his address was omitted from the final recorded version, possibly for its ambiguity."
...-

"Birth of a video: the miscues behind Dion TV address
By THE CANADIAN PRESS

OTTAWA — Stephane Dion’s grainy, amateur video address to the nation this week was the result of a series of miscues, from a broken camera to rushed, last-minute editing, insiders say.

The session was taped by one of Dion’s closest aides, Mick Gzowski, son of late CBC icon Peter Gzowski. His mother is the Liberal leader’s English-language trainer.

Gzowski is in charge of broadcast communications for the Liberal research bureau and recorded the address with a digital camera.

Insiders say an auto-focus button on the camera was broken, stuck in the locked position. As a result, the focus was on a bookcase behind Dion rather than on the Liberal leader himself, leaving his face slightly fuzzy.

The last sentence of the printed version of his address was omitted from the final recorded version, possibly for its ambiguity.

“I will serve my country until my time to serve is at an end,” says the last line in the printed version of the statement, released by the party an hour before the television broadcast.

That suggests some last-minute editing that may have delayed the production.

There was also confusion about just where to deliver the digital disc of the address, which delayed its arrival at the networks by up to an hour.

The party also did not meet a requirement to provide separate English- and French-language versions on separate discs for the television networks, which also delayed the broadcasts."
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/2008/12/05/7649821-cp.html

The CBC didn't amend their policy for Dear Leader?

Pity

maz2 at December 5, 2008 8:11 PM

You know what to do. Write ombudsman@cbc.ca

maz2 at December 5, 2008 8:11 PM

You know what to do. Write ombudsman@cbc.ca

Latest from CTV tonigh as I write the "Sheit from H*ll" is facing off with Tim Powers. Sounds like a mouth piece for "Iggy Pop" if you ask me.

On another note Boob Rae is using the time to cris cross the country. According to the "media" his aim is to sell Canadians on the merits of the "Coupscate" gang. To me I think is is trying to sell the merits of "BoobScate".

bverwey

Dear maz2,

Thank YOU for sharing that! This is the final straw for me with Newman. I've just launched a formal complaint against him: http://pelalusa.blogspot.com/2008/12/formal-complaint-to-cbc-ombudsman.html

And encourage the rest of you to as well. Heather Mallick was censured. So the same can happen to Newman if enough people complain!

Dan, you will LOVE this: http://pelalusa.blogspot.com/2008/12/lest-we-forget.html

A future politician in Victoria perhaps?!? :-)

Bob Rae said:

>>>>> "This coalition is not just a parliamentary combination. It reflects something that is happening in our country."

Rae is advocating "replacing Mr. Harper with a new government of national economic unity".

This is treason. Bob Rae is a traitor.

Rae is advocating the overthrow of Canada's government.

Treason from Bob Rae.
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Rae's Manifesto:

"Liberals won't back down

bobrae.ca - 12/5/2008

With today's prorogation, we as Liberals now must carry on our fight outside of Parliament. We must continue in the hopeful and positive project of creating an alternative government of national economic unity - a project that more and more Canadians are supporting each day.

Our coalition can defeat the Harper government when it returns with a Budget on January 26. We need to continue driving towards bringing down this Prime Minister, who has utterly lost the trust and confidence of Canadians, and of the House of Commons they elected.

We will continue our fight for an alternative government with a alternative vision of how to respond to this crisis, and the means to mobilize a majority towards that purpose -- on and off Parliament Hill.

This is not a new fight, but a different phase of the same one. From the day it was announced, I have spoken out publicly and privately in support of the coalition. I have done so sincerely and without reservation.

The coalition is under attack from a massive Conservative campaign which Mr. Harper has vowed to continue. In the face of this, I will fight even harder to persuade Canadians that the idea of replacing Mr. Harper with a new government of national economic unity is a sound, achievable and very positive one for this country at a time of grave economic challenge.

This coalition is not just a parliamentary combination. It reflects something that is happening in our country.

This polarizing PM has lost the trust of the nation at a critical time. And what's happening as a result of this is bigger than Stephane Dion, bigger than me, Michael Ignatieff or Dominic Leblanc. In some senses these events have become much larger than the Liberal Party.

The Canadian people, and their representatives in parliament, do not trust this Prime Minister in this crisis. We need to work with the majority of citizens of all kinds to bring their will into parliament.

Our ideals, our values and our vision of Canada are under direct attack. We have a majority of the people of this country behind us.

It is now up to the Liberal Party of Canada to assert its historic role in building and leading the progressive centre in our great nation. My pledge is to help bring together all who share these values.

We will do this together"
http://stevejanke.com/archives/279259.php

According to the Winnipeg Free Press, Sideshow Bob will be in Winnipeg tomorrow from 10 am - 12 noon Winnipeg time. If the Free Press reporters can pull themselves away from their latest street fight with question asking members of the public, then perhaps they'll report on it. They'll send Porky Pig to cover it.

Your humble correspondent may go, and then report on the proceedings. I promise to bring my usual unbiased verbal stylings to the proceedings.

I'll be freezing my but off at the Saskatoon Rally. If someone brings coffee i'll bring the baileys!!

I'll be at the rally in T. dot. Booya kasha!

Rutland Hall in Kelowna tomorrow...I'll be there with my big old Maple Leaf flag.

Based on the opinion polls Canadians seem to be united about several things:

(1) Harper majority;

(2) No taxpayer nipple for Baby Bob & Friends;

(3) Tell Quebec that we cut off their allowance and they don't get unlimited gas allowance on the family car. They'll have to start paying some freight.

Charles Adler was discussing Bob Rae's upcoming journey with a guest today. They both think he's on a political suicide mission. As Adler said, "For someone who is supposedly so smart, he has the absolute worst political instincts of most anyone I've ever met!" (Paraphrasing)

"They both think he's on a political suicide mission"

Tomorrow's Bob Rae meeting in Winnipeg should result in chants of Tora, Tora, Tora!

"It is strange how all our media has mentioned the poll results except the Toronto Star !!"

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Haha, I remember during the election T-Star did a poll that had the Tories at 40%. They put it on page A-26 or something. LOL.

I look forward to meeting with some like-minded Canadians here in flaky dipper-riddled Vancouver.

1. Anyone know where I can PU a maple leaf umbrella on short notice in the Lower Mainland?(I'm willing to leave a sizeable carbon tireprint driving to get it.)

2. Hardcore partisan twits that want to burn effigies of Dion and such, please stay the f*ck home.

"the Ontario Secondary School Teachers' Federation sent a memo to all its members today urging them to attend a pro-coalition rally in Toronto at Nathan Philips Square at the same time as the Rally for Canada at Queen's Park"

Apparently NDP MP Irene Mathyssen didn't get the message. Will her outrage now extend to her pro-coalition compatriots?

Another Jack Layton conspiracy goes horribly wrong.

Canadian Observer,

Sounds like the type of thing you'd find in Gastown.

I'm looking forward to the rally in Calgary - City Hall, 11 a.m.

The pro-coalition group turned out about 100 on Thurs. evening. Very quiet affair, 2 CBC trucks and 1 Global. They did a lot of taped interviews, but I have to wonder what they do with all that stuff. The evening news didn't seem to have much or anything. Present were one large Canadian flag and 3 small ones - which in itself is rather interesting. Also a couple of others like PSAC, Council of Canada.

I will be flying the Alberta flag, not the Canadian flag, at the rally for a couple of reasons.

There are many, particularly in Central Canada, who think that the appearance of a much stronger Alberta just could not/would not ever happen. In six weeks, and particularly if the coalition does not fall apart, the test just might come.

Premier Ed has to be getting a message that he is seen by more than a few to be simply to mellow while this crisis was going on. All he could muster was "relief" once prorogation happened.

By not flying the Canadian flag, I'm registering disgust for all that has been, and is still, going on in Ottawa. All the MPs had better give their heads a shake and come back on the 26th ready to govern in the best interest of Canada. If an election is deemed at this time, then so be it, it's only another $300M.

Premier Ed says he has a plan but I'm sure that Albertans, in general, are also going to have/develop their own plan. What remains to be seen is how closely the two plans resemble each other.

My plan is simple - start invoking the Notwithstanding Clause on some key issues and begin taking more political/financial/judicial power for AB from the feds. Premier Ed isn't putting his cards on the table right now.

It is not about separation yet - but it sure is about a much stronger AB. If this coalition does hold up for six weeks, then who knows.

I'll be in London tomorrow noon, hope to see some familiar faces.

I want an election.

:)

So PM Harper should resign? I haven't seen this reported by any of the media. From the Compas poll comes this little shocker to put things in perspective for Ignatieff, Rae and the rest of the Liberal party:

"The Conservatives are benefiting from sharply higher confidence in Harper as Prime Minister in the present economic circumstances than in any of the Opposition leaders or prominent hopefuls, as shown in table 3c.

Table 3c: (Q7) Given the situation in the economy and in Parliament, in whom do you have the most confidence as Prime Minister?"

Steven Harper All-48 West-61 ON-53 QC-24

Michael Ignatieff All-14 West-8 ON-8 QC-29

Stephane Dion All-8 West-5 ON-9 QC 11

Jack Layton All-11 West-8 ON-12 QC-11

Gilles Duceppe All-3 West-1 ON-0 QC-9

I'll be at city hall in Windsor, presumably facing down many of my Union 'brothers'.
Can't wait for the fallout at the plant next week.
I'm already on the outs with them.
Sorry, but I'm a Canadian above and beyond any job classification, community affiliation, and especially above union membership/ philosophy.
I'll fight socialism and seperatism so long as these diseases exist.
Stay Strong.
Sam.

Canadian Observer: Check here: http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=vancouver+umbrellas

Just call them first thing to find out if they have them. If that doesn't work then try those tourist many tourist shops on Robson, between Burrard & Thurlow.

Irene Mathyssen? Like, Irene Mathyssen of accusing-James-Moore-of-looking-at-pornography-during-Parliament fame?

58% believe that the coalition's real or main motivation was a power grab ....
only 58%?! The Liberals will forgive anything when its a liberal doing it.

Anyone in the Windsor - Esex County area - rally 12 PM (noon) city hall square. We need you!

Dec. 6, 1941 - two days before the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbour in a misguided, illigal, grab for power, resources, land and money. We all know what happened to the Japanese. Are you taking notes Boob?

Correction - My comment should read the DAY before Japan attacked Pearl Harbour, without the prerequisite of an open declaration of war against the United States of America. Dec. 7, 1941. I can only imagine that Hitler and Stalin tore a strip off their 'foreign' Pal for that bungle; too.

PMSH has always reminded me of Sir Winston Churchill, without the pipe.

Correction - My comment should read the DAY before Japan attacked Pearl Harbour, without the prerequisite of an open declaration of war against the United States of America. Dec. 7, 1941. I can only imagine that Hitler and Stalin tore a strip off their 'foreign' Pal for that bungle; too.

PMSH has always reminded me of Sir Winston Churchill, without the pipe.

Anyone here going to be at the Saskatoon rally at City Hall? Unfortunately I have to work while the rally is happening. I would be there otherwise. Lets wipe these coalitionists off the map!!!

Melissa - I wish I could be there, but I have to work. DAMNIT!!!!

I have to work!!!!

There's a thought, why not just "down tools" and everyone quit for the day. tell your employer it's your civic duty, a sort of "call out the troops" day. If he/she doesn't understand, they support the coalition, you'll lose your job anyway.

It's a great day here in central NB,sunny and bright,me and mine are heading down to Fredericton for the Rally for Canada scheuled for 2 pm.We are going early to enjoy the massive turn out expected.Go Stevie go!

I will be at the Rally on Parliament Hill today. I have read many of the posting and blogs all over and everyone says that the Bloc are a separatist party.

Well I submit to you that they are not a separatist party at all .... I mean why would they separate all they have to do is even hint at doing something and bang the get what ever they want.
We have seen this for years now and it will continue for as long as the federalist give in to them. I am not anti Quebec or anti French ( i am bilingual ) but this has to stop ...

I will be at the Rally on Parliament Hill today. I have read many of the posting and blogs all over and everyone says that the Bloc are a separatist party.

Well I submit to you that they are not a separatist party at all .... I mean why would they separate all they have to do is even hint at doing something and bang the get what ever they want.
We have seen this for years now and it will continue for as long as the federalist give in to them. I am not anti Quebec or anti French ( i am bilingual ) but this has to stop ...

The Orwellian credo could not be more true in these days, as the socialists just keep banging it out, with respect to Quebec.

"All animals are equal, but SOME are more equal than others"

I think I've found the answer to accidental double or even triple posts: click on "Preview" first and then "post" from there. It's been working for me--and my comments are posted much more quickly.

That's the problem. You click on "post" and it doesn't seem to post, so you click again ... and again. Voila: double and triple posts ...

I don't see it on the list, but Vernon, BC at the Old Court House at 12 noon.

Cheers

batb: "That's the problem. You click on "post" and it doesn't seem to post, so you click again ... and again. Voila: double and triple posts ...

No, That's the problem :) Don't forget the site gets 1000+ hits per hour. Server can only go fetch and rewrite so fast. Patience.... Open another tab (if your browser isn't set to open sub-pages in a new tab) and go read another thread while your first one is posting....

Exactly. Post and go to another tab.

Firefox shows it swirling(filling) in the tab - can see when it is finished, then go back to it.

(And I have to be the least 'Techy' one here :)

Saturday at 1 p.m., watching CTV Newsnet. They are showing video of Dion at a pro-coalition rally (must have been last night as it is dark) while talking on the phone with someone at the anti-coalition rally in Ottawa. No visual images, and very confusing to watchers. The reporter on the phone said there was at least twice as many people at the anti-coalition rally as there was at the pro-coalition rally the other night. The CTV announcer also previously wondered how Harper could continue to have these rallies organized while asking for input from the opposition. As if Harper has organized the rallies!

Lori,

You beat me to it. The crowd at the Toronto rally didn't sound super enthusiastic and there was no estimate of the size of the crowd. I suspect if it had been large, its size would have been reported. The camera work didn't seem all that professional; could this be an emerging Liberal tradition?

Obviously the reporter at the Ottawa event was impressed by the motivation that brought people out to stand on Parliament Hill on a bitter cold day. He stressed more than once that these were ordinary people who made the decision to attend on their own. The anchor in Toronto tried several times to twist the report to make it seem that the crowd was angry at Harper. She failed and the reporter on the hill repeated several times that the people there believed strongly that they had elected a government and they were not prepared to have their democratic decision overturned by a backroon deal.

CTV and CP24 have squelched reporting of the anti-coalition rallies. They are ONLY showing the pro-coalition rallies, which don't appear to have much support.

This is one of the reasons Rush Limbaugh is popular in the U.S. He calls out the Drive-By media on these things.

I think we should make it clear that the Butcher [they specialize in knifing the truth)] Media in Canada is also performing Pravda operations.

I just came back from the "Rally For Canada" in Toronto.

Is it just me, or does there appear to be a directly proportional relationship between conservatism and attractive women? I think that this is REALLY what has Liberals incensed; all the hot chicks are right-wingers and they're left with the granola-eating, eco-religious, wannabe hippies who don't bathe. That would make me cranky too.

I wonder if anyone let Irene Mathyssen know that both Dion and Layton were at their OWN rally today, and I wonder if she's cheesed off about THEM having a rally on Dec. 6. The turn-out on Parliament Hill was pretty good (about 4000, according to Stephen Taylor), and it put the coalition of the swilling rally in the shade.

About 2000 at the Calgary rally - totally ex. for Calgary. Generally this city does not do rallies.

Particularly gratifying were the number of Gen Xers and Gen Ys. These people are very open, ready to stand up and be counted, and are the ones who are going to bring change to the political scene. Perhaps more than a few Boomers will begin to sense there are things happening out there that are other than the world is about me, me, me

Lots of Canadian flags, 4 Alberta flags, signs of all sorts supporting the no-coalition people, spontaneous singing of Oh Canada, etc. etc. A visual message has been sent to Central Canada, the Media, and the GG. Let's see if the MSM has the guts to deliver the message during the day/evening reports.

PMSH has always reminded me of Sir Winston Churchill, without the pipe.

Posted by: Jema 54 at December 6, 2008 4:09 AM
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Um...Churchill smoked a cigar, Stalin & MacArthur smoked pipes.

I no longer have any trust that the Eastern media has scruples AT ALL.

Mike Duffy of CTV will present both sides; he's the exception.

Read the Vancouver Sun editorials and then the Globe and Mail's. Day and night. Rational analysis vs. the Globe's liberal SPIN.

I was at the Toronto Rally today with my family. I estimated about 1000, but the reporter on CFRB said there were about 400. I took lots of pictures, and will have them up on my blog later today or tomorrow.

Ed Wooley was there, and was a treat to listen to. I think that boy is gonna go far...

Very good turnout in Kelowna. Two hundred or so.

The young people we're obviously very passionate about preserving democracy. A grade 11 student initiated the rally organization - Nagan Ritz, I believe.

Even before the rally speeches, most we're already aware of the taxpayer subsidy thing !! Thanks to Jack & Gill & Yawn. A real sore point. Yes, in both cases :)

Went to the Saskatoon rally this afternoon. There was a moment after people started to disperse when a few of the conservative demonstrators out hippied the pro coalition hippies (Pink Floyd -- We Don't Need No Coalition). They were speechless.

CP: "Is it just me, or does there appear to be a directly proportional relationship between conservatism and attractive women?"

Thanks, CP! I was at the Toronto Rally this afternoon and I'm a c/Conservative woman. So, I guess I resemble that remark!!!

I figure there were 500-600 people at the TO rally at its peak. And I saw a CTV cameraman just a few feet from me, filming the event (in the middle of the crowd, where he wouldn't have a full view of the whole crowd) and wonder why it hasn't appeared on any of the CTV news coverage ... Hmmm ...

The sleeping giant is awakening ... Canada's "serverly normal" folk are on the move ... "LOOKOUT!" Messieurs Duceppe, Dion, and Layton. 'Same goes for you, The Iggster and Bobo Rae.

Clipper, I was at the Calgary Rally and the majority demographic(75%+) present were Boomers.

A young blonde woman, early 20s, turned to my wife with surprise and even mentioned that she was ashamed of her generations lack of political interest and exclaimed that the majority were from my generation.(Boomers)