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December 5, 2008

This Is New?

"[CBC] Newsworld will not necessarily wait for the definitive word on a story before beginning to report, the meeting was told.

Bonus from the Globe's comments thread, the Quote Of The Week!

L. van Dyk from Canada writes: "I was raised on the CBC. It's intelligent. Much of the language skills I now have I got from listening to them."

h/t Ian.

Posted by Kate at December 5, 2008 7:46 PM
Comments

Spin the story before there's a story. Wow, what a concept.

Posted by: Eskimo at December 5, 2008 8:25 PM

How do you pronounce that?

L. Van Dick?

Posted by: irwin daisy at December 5, 2008 8:33 PM

"Much of the language skills I now have I got from listening to them"

Me fail English? That's unpossible.

Posted by: Kathryn at December 5, 2008 8:34 PM

It's their mandate, just like HRC'S and they state so themselves in the first paragraph.

...after a recent market study showed some of the public broadcaster's key programs weren't registering with Canadian viewers.

Orwellian, absolutely.


Posted by: ldd at December 5, 2008 8:37 PM

Spin the story before there's a story

Hasn't the CBC been doing this for years?

Posted by: Archie at December 5, 2008 8:37 PM

Am I the only one seeing everything in annoying bold text?

Posted by: steve at December 5, 2008 8:38 PM

I've got an idea. How about a market based approach. Cut the government funding and see what's left standing when the dust settles.

Posted by: Zip at December 5, 2008 8:46 PM

is that Loser van Dyk over there?

Posted by: Steve L. at December 5, 2008 8:54 PM

steve:

Nope.   It's annoyingly bold for me, too.   Hopefully the HTML "end-bold" tag I've put in will stop it, at least in these comments...


Garth

Posted by: Garth Wood at December 5, 2008 8:55 PM

Rats, didn't work.


Garth

Posted by: Garth Wood at December 5, 2008 8:58 PM

Programming which "does not register with viewers"?

Does this mean that the CBC is demonstrating concern over their impossibly low ratings?

Here's another opportunity to engage in questionable business practices to "re-brand" Newsworld and the programming which nobody watches.

What the CBC will now do is hire a liberal friendly firm to create a new look for their newscasts - and the price tag won't be cheap.

Strange priorities for a crown corporation which is operating at a deficit.

Posted by: Beryl at December 5, 2008 8:58 PM

Beryl at December 5, 2008 8:58 PM

And there will be many employees of said PR firm who donate the max to the Liberals.

Posted by: RW at December 5, 2008 9:03 PM

rite below Loser van Dick's comment some fool denigrates us ADD'rs, wonder if I should file HRC complaint??????

Posted by: GYM at December 5, 2008 9:04 PM

Irwin, it means literally "of the DICK"

and someone needs to close the BOLD tag.

Posted by: Doug at December 5, 2008 9:05 PM

Aha!!!! new/food/media has unwittingly revealed himself.

Posted by: wallyj at December 5, 2008 9:15 PM

"...........after a recent market study showed some of the public broadcaster's key programs weren't registering with Canadian viewers."


Some? How's about any? I have not intentionally tuned into the CBC in two or three years except for Rememberance Day services in Ottawa.

Posted by: AtlanticJim at December 5, 2008 9:22 PM

The CBCs ratings are vapour...Making asthetic changes will do nothing...As long as the CBC continues in it's blind sycophantic promotion of all things Liberal party, it will be an after thought for the majority of Canadians, just like their ideological comrades in the Liberal party. The CBC,CTV,Globe@Taliban, Toronto Red Star etc. only preach to the conditioned. A pack of Trudeauvian cultists who could care less about Canada, and even less what Canadians think. Changing program asthetics will do nothing until the staff has been de-progammed of their cult beliefs.

Posted by: Sean M at December 5, 2008 9:25 PM

The CBC is a Little Husk on the Prairie.

Posted by: Manitoba Moose at December 5, 2008 9:27 PM

After perusing some of those comments, it is clear that not only has the CBC completely confused the news with editorializing but most of it's consumers have also lost the ability to differentiate the two.

Posted by: Canadian Observer at December 5, 2008 9:27 PM

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just for fun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afp9H1tLmro&feature=related

Watch liberals getting pied in the face, these pie assasins are good.

Dion is at 2:10

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Posted by: babylonian at December 5, 2008 9:30 PM

You have to watch out for Hollanders. They can be drier than the Scots when they're pulling your leg. Thank goodness "wooden shoes humour" is an acquired taste that no one else wants to acquire.

Posted by: Sgt Lejaune at December 5, 2008 9:35 PM

You have to watch out for Hollanders. They can be drier than the Scots when they're pulling your leg. Thank goodness "wooden shoes humour" is an acquired taste that no one else wants to acquire.

Posted by: Sgt Lejaune at December 5, 2008 9:37 PM

"...Hollanders...drier than the Scots..."

The Scot consumption of whiskey is matched only by the Dutch enjoyment of gin...

Long live the Dutch! They prohibit only water.

Posted by: Tenebris at December 5, 2008 9:53 PM

It'd be sweet revenge if the Tories would stop publically financing CBC. Then they could sell the TV news to Rupert Murdoch to turn into a Canadian Foxnews. The liberals in this country would go bananas. Who knows, maybe they might try a coup to take over the government without an election. Oh wait, they already tried that.

Posted by: Phil at December 5, 2008 10:02 PM

"[CBC] Newsworld will not necessarily wait for the definitive word on a story before beginning to report, the meeting was told."

And how will that will be different than what they do now?

Posted by: Woodporter at December 5, 2008 10:07 PM

Out with van Dyk, er Dionky.
...-

"The first Liberal step: Replace Dion

JOHN MANLEY

From Saturday's Globe and Mail

December 5, 2008 at 8:00 PM EST

Now that the Governor-General has accepted Stephen Harper's request for a prorogation of Parliament until Jan. 26, there is time for everyone to take a breath and think through what just happened and what happens next. As a Liberal, I believe the first step for my party is to replace Stéphane Dion as leader with someone whose first job is to rebuild the Liberal Party, rather than leading a coalition with the NDP."
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081205.wcomanley06/BNStory/specialComment

Posted by: maz2 at December 5, 2008 10:07 PM

Does anybody know what CBC's ratings are? I heard they were at 8% once. Does anybody hear watch Little Jihad on the Prairie?

Posted by: Phil at December 5, 2008 10:10 PM

"Does anybody hear watch Little Jihad on the Prairie?"

LMAO!

Posted by: babylonian at December 5, 2008 10:14 PM

Seeing as we're talking about the scumbags at the CBC: LORD, HAVE MERCY ...

Right now, as I write, the CBC's running a documentary by the sleazebag Linden McIntyre about Schrieber and Mulroney. I haven't got the sound on (Chet Baker, Odetta, Frankie, and Dave Brubeck are far superior audio companions) but it's clear what they're trying to do with this old shoe: crown the Conservatives, and by association, PMSH and the CPC, even though the two parties are as different as night and day.

The CBC is shameless.

GET. RID. OF. THEM. ALL.

Posted by: batb at December 5, 2008 10:18 PM

My mother told a story about her grade 11 english teacher. While trying to demonstrate the subject of a sentence, the teacher wrote "the beauty of the leaves are gone", as a correct sentence. My mother argued that she'd made a mistake, but was scolded. My mother's eyes would light up angrily, even 30 years later, when she recalled that incident.

Van Dyk wouldn't catch on, even if it was explained to him. It's a minor error, but he opened the door when he bragged about his superior language skills.

Posted by: dp at December 5, 2008 10:19 PM

"""Thank goodness "wooden shoes humour" is an acquired taste that no one else wants to acquire."""


definition of a dutchman


wooden shoes


wooden head


wouldn't listen

Posted by: GYM at December 5, 2008 10:22 PM

As long as Mr. Van Dyk feels good about himself, that's all that matters.
I bet he still has all of his "Participant" ribbons from school on his wall.

Posted by: Marcia at December 5, 2008 10:27 PM

Apparently, the chosen party feels that their friendly media folks screwed up and fed them bad data.

Posted by: shaken at December 5, 2008 10:34 PM

Not registering with readers? Rebranding? This is just like GM holding a board meeting to discuss a new colour for a very poorly engineered transmission. If this wasn't my money, I would find it very funny.

Posted by: Steve at December 5, 2008 10:38 PM

"The notion that the public would accept Stéphane Dion as prime minister, after having resoundingly rejected that possibility a few weeks earlier, was delusional at best."

--- John Manley, Globe & Mail

Posted by: Manitoba Moose at December 5, 2008 10:43 PM

I'm sorry, I can't resist. (Over the years, I’ve assessed hundreds of writing samples.)

L. van Dyk from Canada writes: "I was raised on the CBC. It's intelligent. Much of the language skills I now have I got from listening to them."

Added to the two errors in these three sentences is the fact that the average number of words per sentence—a very important indicator of writing competency—is only eight. If this short passage were written by an eight year old, van Dyk’s sentence structure would be just fine.

Somehow, I don’t believe that van Dyk is only eight.

(After about twelve years of age, the requirement that the average number of words per sentence equal one’s age no longer applies. What’s the importance of this? Longer sentences indicate that the writer is using more complex structures, such as subordinate clauses.)

'Off to bed now for a good night's sleep before the rally tomorrow!

Posted by: lookout at December 5, 2008 10:50 PM

The CBC are Entitled, doncha know?!- Just like the Bloc who have the nerve to be in a Federal parliament openly advocating separation and taking federal funding to further that cause. It ain't the Bloc that's crazy, it's us Canucks.
WE allow this nonsense to drain the very life blood from us ( tax dollars ARE the life blood of a democratic economy and if not used wisely does nothing for the democracy thereof. ) Good definition of our Canada, eh what?
WHEN , really, WHEN will we wake UP?- Get rid of the CBC ( WHAT heritage?) put that billion dollars to work on something besides Little Mosque on the Prairie or Newsworld and Please, Please somebody besides Don 'my upper lip does not move' Newman. I am sure we could get better value for our billion dollars than that.
And, while we are at it, get rid of the funding for anything that promotes the idea that we are 'two solitudes'. Cut French language funding in the rest of Canada unless and until Quebec insists on English in the entire province being given the same funding and respect French gets in the rest of the country. Come to think of it, just cut out the duality all together. We are not getting our money's worth as it is and never will as long as the likes of the Bloc can suck on the hind teat for as long as they have with NObody complaining about it. If this 'crisis' does anything perhaps it will shine a real harsh light on the nonsense we put up with in Parliament with the Bloc and the complete idiocy of our allowing them to do it. AND the fact that we as taxpayers SHOULD NEVER be funding political parties. Let them go out and find their supporters to fund them or sink on their own ineptitude.
All of these would save us an enormous amount of money and NO, GM doesn't get any of it!
Let's face it. The CBC was only good for Hockey Night in Canada and they even screwed up the song rights by completely dissing it's author. What a bunch of arrogant maroons.

Posted by: Snowbunnie at December 5, 2008 11:00 PM

You'll all note that with the dropping of this show or that show the CBC is sure to mention that "the staff is likely to be reassigned to other shows".

But of course! In the world of CTV or Global such cancellations of programs just might mean layoffs, especially in tough times. At the Mother Corp - hell, money is no object. We don't have to lay people off. We can simply reassign them to another show. Just how the hell did those other shows survive before those employees were reassigned to them?

Man - they so piss me off.

Posted by: a different bob at December 5, 2008 11:12 PM

Tonights news: Crappy left wing news channel scores poorer ratings than sports channel. Government funding needed to study viewer short comings.

In twenty years it has never occurred to me to watch Newsworld. It just takes up bandwidth. It should be made to disappear along with the rest of the CBC. I'm sure someone else can pick up Hockey Night In Canada

Posted by: Shannow at December 5, 2008 11:18 PM

Cut the funding and let it survive on it's own. If they don't, then it was not managed right in the first place.

Posted by: Merle Underwood at December 5, 2008 11:34 PM

"TWENTY MILLION DOLLARS A WEEK"
Now I'm not the brightest guy in the world but in my economic statement somehow I'd mix that into the discussion.

Posted by: Boots at December 6, 2008 12:28 AM

I have satellite tv and to my great pleasure I block all the CBC, CTV and Global stations.

It prevents me from accidentally tuning in Liberal propaganda.

Posted by: Joe at December 6, 2008 12:30 AM

After the coup attempt in Ottawa with there excessive partiality towards socialism. If not euphoria at the thought of a Junta with the Separatists. This Vampire of a Propaganda nest of enablers for treason, as well lies. Has been exposed to the sun light. It just hasn’t registered yet, that there dust. Its plain they no longer stand for anything Canadian. The CBC stands alone for its self. They must go, no free society should even have an abomination like this. It was inevitable they would become just a propaganda arm for there employee’s government workers obsessions., “Jihad on the Prairie” Brilliant if did not hit so close to the truth. (O:}

Posted by: Revnant Dream at December 6, 2008 12:43 AM


Does no one here watch Dragons' Den?
What's wrong with you people?

It's the only CBC show I watch; I'd give it an A.

Posted by: chutzpuhticular at December 6, 2008 1:18 AM

What's up with dissing Newsworld? Have they stopped running Antiques Roadshow repeats on Sunday afternoons?

Posted by: edncda at December 6, 2008 2:22 AM

Hey! Antiques Roadshow is the most useful program on any network!

Posted by: Skip at December 6, 2008 7:40 AM

I have to say that I love Heartland. It's about an extended family who are struggling to keep their ancestral horse ranch in Alberta; there is beautiful scenery set in the foothills and interesting characters. It's a surprisingly good family show.
I just avoid the news, the National and George Snuffleupagus.

Posted by: muttsrus at December 6, 2008 8:45 AM

I like antiques roadshow, but I don't watch it on CBC.
CBC always has their filtered editorial news crawling across the screen. It
aggravates me to the point of using the remote.

Posted by: Doowleb at December 6, 2008 9:06 AM

"definition of a dutchman

wooden shoes

wooden head

wouldn't listen"

And all this time I thought Dion was French.

Posted by: Fred at December 6, 2008 9:40 AM

I thought that was the name of the coalition Antique Roadshow?

Posted by: Manitoba Moose at December 6, 2008 11:00 AM

He may not be twelve, but his ability to reason likely doesn't extend very far beyond someone of that age, similar to most Leftists. The trolls seem to fallen silent as of late...

Posted by: KVB at December 6, 2008 12:01 PM

think we had firs election to find some group as premier or sanators in House now

do we need to have some miniroty or some reglion to have senator or premir or member in the house
main thing all problmes must be heard
by house from peopel to let peopel go to member of parlementa nd ssay their opinon

always majority is not work in house of comment
but being PM need you bein majroity otherwise it get so much conflict of interest and is some thing went wrong PM can blame to hosue not to him as majority to made that decision
next is to choose fair election only for PM.
may be need to method of ecltion
with 5 group to choose from still one may go to
minirity

may be election need to first go to all
then narrow down and let peopel if nto gain
go to one narrow to second round untill majority for pm get elected used exampel all world election
not necesaary USA i mean chang election to method more creditable and more reasonable and find out
voting not get mess up like before election

Posted by: new at December 6, 2008 12:10 PM

L. van Dyk from Canada writes: "I was raised on the CBC. It's intelligent. Much of the language skills I now have I got from listening to them."

By "language skills" he obviously means "big words neither of us understand," like 'intelligence'.

Posted by: crosseyedcyclops at December 6, 2008 12:53 PM

That van Dyk person reminds me of when I was much younger (like eighteen and earlier) and had yet to learn anything about the real world. Back then I simply believed what I hear on the MSM and whatever I was told by whomever.

I now know that most folks out there as well as the MSM and even "educators" usually don't know what they're talking about.

Patronizing the CBC will only lead to brainwashing.

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at December 6, 2008 2:34 PM

I bet van Dyk also believes that the CBC is "sophisticated", "urbane", "progressive", "open-minded", "ground-breaking", etc., you name all the utterly meaningless fancy adjectives Leftists just love to parrot when talking about themselves and their comrades...

It suggests that they've nothing to say other than parroting the big words they heard other Leftists utter, as if merely saying them is saying something, which it isn't. They utter big, fancy words but really aren't saying (or even thinking) anything at all.

BTW, van Dyke sounds a bit like Stephane Dion, doesn't (s)he? A bit more intelligent, though...

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at December 6, 2008 2:44 PM

Canadian Sentinel, the MSM "talks down" to the populace.

My job typically involves doing a lot of actual complicated stuff (as opposed to artificially complicated stuff).

First thing I do is cut out the crap, make myself available, be humble and explain to others what needs to be done in a respectful tone.

This approach, while it has worked for me (and many others in my business countless times) is not in the best interests of the MSM.

Posted by: PiperPaul at December 6, 2008 3:58 PM

Watches too much Star Wars this L. van Dyck does me thinks.

Posted by: Yoda at December 6, 2008 7:38 PM

And all this time I thought Dion was French.

Posted by: Fred at December 6, 2008 9:40 AM


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the netherlands is small, and very close to the land of the frogs, thusly even I, born in the far north of that now far-away-land, have some french in my heritage

PS; only you can read this post, so please keep my secret

Posted by: GYM at December 6, 2008 8:05 PM
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