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December 5, 2008

The Network So Nice You Get To Pay Twice

A CBC exec expenses his donations?

The president of CBC says recent articles about the spending habits of a senior network executive are unfair and misleading. [...] Lacroix said it's erroneous to interpret the information as meaning Lafrance -- executive vice-president of French-language network Radio-Canada -- spent $80,000 on himself. The amount includes, he said, contributions to the Montreal Symphony Orchestra "or other charity events in the arts community."

Posted by Kate at December 5, 2008 10:08 AM
Comments

Isn't that misappropriation of funds, and therefore grounds for termination?

Posted by: Woodporter at December 5, 2008 10:11 AM

The entire CBC should be terminated. That would save taxpaers a billion a year.

Posted by: Ghost of Ed at December 5, 2008 10:15 AM

Yeah, isn't that like... illegal?

Posted by: The Phantom at December 5, 2008 10:16 AM

No,no,no.Woodporter and Ghost of Ed.He is entitled to his entiliments.Don't you guys get it?? And I will bet he got 100% refundable,unlike us other plebes who only get 15% of 3%,after the NON-refundable portion,of course.

Posted by: Justthinkin at December 5, 2008 10:18 AM

And you wonder why it cost $1 billion a year.

Posted by: sysk at December 5, 2008 10:22 AM

Phantom....illegal in the CBC? How can it be illegal when it is their job and duty,to keep us peons unpartially informed of all that happens in Canuckistan? They NEED the money for this,you understand?

Posted by: Justthinkin at December 5, 2008 10:22 AM

The CBC has its own Charter of Rights and Freedoms. Mirroring Liberal Party spending habits is, of course, a big part. They are still looking at eliminating audits so they won't even have to record expenses.

Posted by: Dpament at December 5, 2008 10:22 AM

You guys just don't get it. I'm truly disappointed in what is quite often a well thought out comment section.

All right then!!! Listen up!!

They're entitled to their entitlements!! Got that. They're not like you and I. They're special, If you don't believe me, just ask them, they'll tell you.

See! That wasn't difficult at all, now was it.

Sarcasm off.

Posted by: Pat at December 5, 2008 10:23 AM

Well yeah!!!

You do not expect him to donate his OWN money do you? That would completely negate his entire belief system. His money is his and our money is his.

Posted by: AtlanticJim at December 5, 2008 10:26 AM

Pat,

My apologies, but I have given up on trying to reform the CBC. I truly believe it's futile. I wish they weren't untouchable.

Posted by: Dpament at December 5, 2008 10:27 AM

Pat,

My apologies, but I have given up on trying to reform the CBC. I truly believe it's futile. I wish they weren't untouchable.

Posted by: Dpament at December 5, 2008 10:27 AM

Oh, sorry dudes. I forgot my place there. Imagine, me thinking a noble CBC exec should be held to the same standard as us lowly peons.

I'll just go back to rolling in the mud now. Don't tell on me, eh?

Posted by: The Phantom at December 5, 2008 10:29 AM

Privatize CBC.

Posted by: mark peters at December 5, 2008 10:37 AM

Privatize the CBC? BWAHAHAHA!!!! That's a good one, Mark! Who'd buy them? They couldn't organize a two man rush on a three hole sh1t house. They'd be in bankruptcy court in a week if they had to rely on actual advertising sales.

Just fire 'em all and sell the cameras.

Posted by: The Phantom at December 5, 2008 10:40 AM

Sorry to say we are all stuck with the CBC and their ways until such time as we declare through an affirmative Clarity Act vote. No amount of bitching and whining is going to change a damned thing. When you accept Canada - you accept ALL of it: Quebec, Liberals, ND, CBC, Bilingualism.

Posted by: Angry! at December 5, 2008 10:42 AM

So he billed the taxpayers for charitable donations -- and then he claimed them again as deductions on his tax return? Betcha?

Posted by: Elmo at December 5, 2008 10:44 AM

I'm, voting for the three stooges.
They will give me 'government' money so I can give it to charity so I can claim a whack of charitable donations so I can get a hockey sock full of tax refunds so I can offset my government money funded Canadian Television or Video tax Credit earnings.

Yeah, that's what I'll do!

Posted by: John at December 5, 2008 10:45 AM

I predict between now and the January budget vote the CBC will engineer the demise of the separatist coalition. Michaelle Jean can't allow a formal coalition with fewer seats than the Conservatives to take power. Further, if the Bloc was to formally join the coalition she has a problem were a regional party is in clear control of parliament contrary to the spirit of federal governance.

Bottom line: if the coalition breaks up then there won't be a non-confidence vote. No non-confidence vote means no February federal election. No federal election means no Harper majority and that means that the CBC continues to be entitled to its' entitlements.

So there you have it, Canada's media has to hold its' nose and quickly cull the people holding together the coalition. Nobody's more afraid of a Harper majority than the CBC.

Posted by: Martin B. at December 5, 2008 10:47 AM

Elmo, you beat me by loonie

Posted by: John at December 5, 2008 10:47 AM

elmo - exactly. He uses taxpayer money to donate to charity and then, he claims this donation on his personal income tax submission, so that he gets a refund!

Martin, my guess is that between now and the January budget, the Liberals-NDP will be fighting each other for the support of their constituency.

What Ignatieff is doing, I'm beginning to think, by his fence-sitting on the coalition, is a strategy of not alienating NDPers who support the coalition as a way to gain power. He wants them to 'go Liberal'. But he doesn't want to alienate Liberals who might have been appalled by this coalition.

Layton, however, has to hold on to those people, so, he'll be fighting Ignatieff.
Rae will be fighting for the coalition.

Their agenda of 'Harper must go' is a strategy to deflect the facts - that they planned this putsch, they planned to take away the democratic rights of Canadians; they were setting up the Bloc, a regional party, to vett all Motions passed in the House. Whew..that's a lot of dirt to hide under the rugs.

Posted by: ET at December 5, 2008 10:57 AM

Only slightly off topic, but with a budget like that we should expect SOME Canadaian news coverage...especially about our Prime Minister.
This from another blog:
"Prime Minister Stephen Harper was honoured in New York City by the Conference Of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations which is presenting him with its first-ever International Leadership Award."
Has anoyone seen/read this?

Posted by: bluetech at December 5, 2008 10:58 AM

Folks,

The more I read about this stuff...the more it breaks my heart. The worst thing about this is that from the comment made by the CBC president, no less, they don't see anything wrong with this person's actions.

I guess when you can't see how wrong it is to "donate" money and deduct it as an expense from your employer then the "wrongness" of the Liberal/NDP/Bloc's actions would also be lost on you.

I hate point out the fact that both names mentioned are French--probably from Quebec.

favill

Posted by: favill at December 5, 2008 11:00 AM

Also a bit OT, but this is a fantastic video regarding the coalition abomination (click on my name for direct link)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLEPbaUrivg&eurl=http://thesecretsofvancouver.com/wordpress/the-week-in-review/canada-election

Posted by: Mark R at December 5, 2008 11:02 AM

sell the cameras.

are you kidding. I saw them at the western final and they are these huge hulking things. they have been using the same cameras since they filmed Razzle Dazzle.

80000 in charitable donations to another high end glitter show explains why they dont update their equipment.

FIRE.THEM. ALL.

I must admit I was listening to CBCpravda this morning driving in. they were busy blaming Harper for a revival of the Quebec separtist movement. I usually dont listen because they have me in a snit by the 14street bridge. but I took a safe route this morning away from pravda headquarters.

Posted by: cal2 at December 5, 2008 11:06 AM

Yes, all sarcasm aside, I believe that is illegal. If he is claiming a tax credit for donations he expensed to the CBC, the CRA would like to have a word with him. I'm not saying he did, I'm saying IF he did.

Know anyone in the CRA? I do.

Posted by: Jimbo at December 5, 2008 11:14 AM

Actually, I've always been uneasy about our Crown corporations (Sask Power, Sasktel) making donations to admittedly worthy causes such as the Jazz Festival and others. I don't object to the causes but I object to the fact that as they keep jacking up the rates on heating and other necessities, their clients (who have few other options) are given no choice about making these donations. The fact that someone sucking hard on the public teat would use his privileged position to make further withdrawals to support various causes doesn't surprise me either.

Posted by: rita at December 5, 2008 11:17 AM

Jimbo,

We have a name, we know where he works and we have his position. Does CRA need anything else? This is the one time I'd really like to see CRA go after someone and if he's proven guilty of something illegal--I'd like to see him fired, fined the full amount (+ interest) of the embezzled monies--and this is important NEVER BE ALLOWED TO WORK FOR THE FEDERAL GOV'T AGAIN.

~~favill~~

Posted by: favill at December 5, 2008 11:19 AM

cal2, you're werong there. Those cameras are the latest, greatest HD beasts that taxpayer money can buy.

Posted by: Yukon Gold at December 5, 2008 11:27 AM

My spelling mistake proves that after reading this article, my head exploded from the ridiculousness of it all.

Posted by: Yukon Gold at December 5, 2008 11:30 AM

CBC - Pigs at the trough. You don't "privatize" the CBC - you simply cut off their funding and let them sink or swim on their own. If they can't make it they die a natural death. That is how the real world operates.

Posted by: a different bob at December 5, 2008 11:40 AM

CBC to fire FruitFly Suzuki survey says-research shows-critics say-economists warn-anonymouse sources reveal.

Weather Channel fired Heidi/entire enviro staff.
Now, CNN has lopped off the DeadWood.

"Global Warming Update: CNN Drops Science Unit and Miles O'Brien
Climate alarmists won't have Miles O'Brien to spread global warming hysteria on CNN anymore as the network has decided to eliminate its science and technology unit."
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/12/04/global-warming-update-cnn-drops-science-unit-miles-obrien
...-

Back to you, Peter ...

Posted by: maz2 at December 5, 2008 11:55 AM

Hey - credit where credit is due. It was my letter to the editor that brought this issue to light.

http://www.torontosun.com/comment/letters/2008/12/03/7612831.html

Posted by: Ron L at December 5, 2008 11:56 AM

Gotta support arts and culture in Quebec remember!

Posted by: Phil at December 5, 2008 11:58 AM

"Privatize the CBC? BWAHAHAHA!!!! That's a good one, Mark! Who'd buy them?" - The Phantom

How about Rupert Murdoch? :D

Posted by: Phil at December 5, 2008 12:01 PM

Yukon, I feel your pain. My head is now Defcon 3, nuke-bunker-grade bomb proof, just from the explosion practice of the last week.

Good thing it grows back! ~:D

Posted by: The Phantom at December 5, 2008 12:01 PM

Screw firing them, lets buy every single member of the CBC a ticket to Afghanistan and explain that its for a charity that they can write off later, then leave them there. If there's any complaining, we tell them we're outsourcing.

Posted by: Irene Swain at December 5, 2008 12:09 PM

"or other charity events in the arts community."

Like the Liberal Party of Canada.

I can see the CBC head office from my window. Somebody got a spare rocket launcher?

Posted by: irwin daisy at December 5, 2008 12:10 PM

[quote]The amount includes, he said, contributions to the Montreal Symphony Orchestra "or other charity events in the arts community." [/quote]

WTF! CBC is itself a form of Charity.. How or Why should Gov't funded Agencies make monetary contributions to other like or similar agencies.

This is an abuse of basic Corporation monetary Principles. It would get the CFO fired because it provides a backdoor access to Corp funds. The Government MUST not allow the PLL's money to be spent on Charities without Vetting at the highest level of parliament...

CBC needs to have a forensic audit if they think this is normal.

Posted by: Phillip G. Shaw at December 5, 2008 12:12 PM

How much does this happen? Are we dealing with bureaucrats left over from the Adscam era working some kind of ExpenseScam now? Is this what these people will resort to in order to divert government funds to their pet arts groups???

Could someone please tell me why, in this day and age of big media and globalized electronic information exchange, our tax monies should be paying for a media corporation?

Posted by: Westerner at December 5, 2008 12:30 PM

Frozen heads on pikes in Ottawa at this time of year would last until at least April, maybe May if the ravens don't get at them too much.


Posted by: richfisher at December 5, 2008 12:39 PM

Fire them all!!!

Posted by: Rick at December 5, 2008 12:39 PM

Question: Of the $1 Billion spent on the CBC each year, what proportion goes to French services?

Posted by: BCer at December 5, 2008 12:47 PM

irwin daisy at 12:10 PM


please don't temp me, I could build something to do the job at that range:-)))))

Posted by: GYM at December 5, 2008 1:02 PM

yukon gold
really? they are monsters. the other networks were there with cameras that were a quarter the size.

maybe Borat Dion can get one to do his next video.

you tink it hizzy make videhoes?

Posted by: cal2 at December 5, 2008 1:03 PM

[ CBC is planning to overhaul its television news divisions, moving The National to seven days a week and revamping CBC Newsworld, after a recent market study showed some of the public broadcaster's key programs weren't registering with Canadian viewers.] G&M

CBC a regular, Kate ?

Posted by: ron in kelowna at December 5, 2008 1:29 PM

I've just sent this letter to the CBC Ombudsman:
__________________

Dear Mr. Carlin

Copied, below, is straight out of the PDF of the CBC’s recent survey. I have highlighted [all caps here] the brazen lies being perpetrated here by the CBC, repeated on Radio 2’s noon newscast today—that the PROPOSED (explain that untruth, please) coalition is comprised of two parties, the Liberals and the NDP. These two parties do not have enough votes to defeat the Conservatives—and that’s a fact, inconvenient as it may be for the CBC.

The newscast today did mention that the Bloq was going to support the coalition, a euphemism for CONTROL it. Of course, not mentioned—though duly noted by the citizens of Canada—is the fact that the Bloq is a SEPARATIST party. (If stating this is insensitive of me, too bad.)

“Results of a CBC News Survey

“December 4, 2008

“Outlook on the Current Political Situation

“Q. The Conservative government of Stephen Harper will likely be defeated when Parliament next has an opportunity to vote. The opposition parties want to replace the Conservatives with A COALITION MADE UP OF LIBERALS AND NEW DEMOCRATS led on an interim basis by Stéphane Dion.

“Based on this, which of the following is closest to your view?

“The PROPOSED coalition of Liberals and New Democrats replacing the Conservative
government within the next few weeks

“Parliament taking a break for a month or so to see whether the Conservatives
can get the confidence of parliament when it comes back into session

“An election to be called within the next few weeks to break the impasse”

[Back to my comments to Mr. Carlin] I notice that the CBC also misinterprets the results of the survey, totally downplaying the obvious support for Stephen Harper and the CPC. (44% of Canadians would now vote for the Conservatives v 24% for the Liberals. Wow, that really shows how successful the putsch has been!) CBC’s weasel “Conclusions”, which shamelessly spin the results of your own survey, would be sent back for editing in any grade 4 class: “Support your opinions.” I’d ask if the CBC has any shame, if I didn’t already know the answer.

The CBC has lost the confidence of the Canadians public—check out your pathetic ratings—and I sincerely hope that your most recent skulduggery to unseat this government completely backfires.

I’ve watched CTV Tass this week: pretty bad, but not as gut churning and stroke inducing as CBC Pravda’s propaganda, which, it seems, is backfiring.

As if it weren’t already, CBC’s cronyism is fully exposed here—“Ignore that man behind the curtain”—but CBC doesn’t have either the eyes to see it or the ears to hear it. ’Not a smart move when your tenure’s in danger and the sleeping Canadian giant is beginning to awake and see the “smoke and mirrors” political picture in this country for what it really is: a Ponzi scheme for the socialists and separatists.

So far, Quebec’s been the only Canadian child allowed to get really angry and be royally paid off on the back of everyone else in the family: among others, that game’s up now, and the longer CBC refuses to play fair, the more vulnerable it becomes.
______________


Of course, the CBC will deny, deny, deny and spin, spin, spin. Fortunately, there is HOPE for CHANGE here: such tactics are becoming less and less successful;-)

Posted by: Concerned Canadian at December 5, 2008 1:30 PM

irwin daisy: naughty, naughty--but what a SATISFYING (figurative, of course) idea!

Posted by: lookout at December 5, 2008 1:39 PM

CBC's News division is taking advantage of the fact that its Editor, John Cruickshank, just took off to the Toronto Star.
(http://www.thestar.com/News/GTA/article/544378)

Without anyone to take the blame, CBC News is spinning fast and furious for the perfect CBC coalition - pro-left, pro-separatist (Radio-Canada's pet project) and pro-Liberal.

Posted by: bob at December 5, 2008 1:42 PM

On Novemebr 19, I wrote a registered snail mail letter to head honcho Timothy Casgrain, advising him how CBC might ramp up George Stroumboulopoulos "HOUR" ratings and get some conservative balance at the same time.
With a hard copy to the Prime Minister as well.

I am waiting for a reply from CBC.

Posted by: Joe Molnar at December 5, 2008 2:50 PM

That they do not even see why this is wrong indicates a state of rot beyond repair. Either privatise the CBC (begin with the French network) or totally clean house hiring only people with a modicum of a moral compass - being able to understand the different between right and wrong for example.

Posted by: Alain at December 5, 2008 3:04 PM

I wonder how much the CBC contributes to the Calgary Philharmonic Orchestra? Is this an anual contribution? Is this a means to top up the funding received directly from the feds?

CBC (expenses)
=
RCMP (tasers)
= more questions than answers!

carry-on,
Slim Chance

Posted by: cehnehdeh at December 5, 2008 3:06 PM

Great letter, Concerned Canadian. Too bad the Concerned Blowhard Communists won't understand a whiff of it. Math gets hard for those folks when numbers oppose the social will of the pretend elite proletariat. It's easier for them to read the Toronto Star instead.

As said before: Nobody's more afraid of a Harper majority than the CBC.

Posted by: Martin B. at December 5, 2008 3:17 PM

Thanks, Martin B., who says, "Nobody's more afraid of a Harper majority than the CBC".

Why am I smiling?

Posted by: Concerned Canadian at December 5, 2008 3:24 PM

I think the internet, and especially this site, is beginning to make inroads into educating Canada. We are finally getting the message out to the Canadians that have been brainwashed over the last forty years. LaFrance is only one more bullet, we should all get together and start a site to highlite the background of everyone of these crooks that have tried to steal Canada from us.

Posted by: Antenor at December 5, 2008 3:32 PM

bluetech: "Prime Minister Stephen Harper was honoured in New York City by the Conference Of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations which is presenting him with its first-ever International Leadership Award."

Thanks for this, bluetech. Who would know?

Anger's not good for my blood pressure and I'm not a violent person, but sometimes I'd like to JUST PLOUGH the whole damned bunch of commentators in the MSM. They're a bunch of lib-left surrender monkeys who haven't a clue that their aiding and abetting the Librano$ and co. is, actually, not contributing to "equality," "freedom," or "democracy" in Canada. Talk about moral pygmies.

It doesn't matter what PMSH does, he'll get it in the jugular from the leftosphere Lilliputians in the HOC and the MSM.

I hope this political crisis results in the majority PMSH and his party deserve.

Posted by: batb at December 5, 2008 5:03 PM

The Ombudsman's findings on the Krista Erickson debacle are in at Stephen Taylor's.

Bottom line: it's not her fault. "...she lacked the experience and sensitivity to realize thwere the line was."

"There was absolutely no evidence of any partisan interest."

"...she is not fully versed on the CBC's Journalistic Standards and practices. She should not have been placed in 'harms way'...."

Wow. She writes questions having nothing to do with the subject matter, for the Liberals, at a parliamentary committee, and the CBC's take is:

"Ms. Erickson was pursuing a legitimate and newsworthy story. In her desire to expand her 'source' base, she unwisely sent questions to a Liberal source who appears to have moved them through the Liberal Research Bureau..."

Posted by: EBD at December 5, 2008 7:35 PM

Put them all on an ice flow to Greenland, failing that cut the funds off.

Posted by: Revnant Dream at December 5, 2008 9:43 PM

Really great posts here...concernedcanadian, pat, bluetech, right on,eh?" Entightiled to their entightilments"...indeed. Hey i do the francophone...give me da cheque, I kicks it back to da liberal party...or I do da separate. Yeah,whatever...go already.

Posted by: Sean M at December 5, 2008 9:49 PM

As Kate states at the top of her ever more famous site, SDA, the neferous, Bolshevik programed, mean spirited, whining individuals that spin leftoid for the media of this country, are responsible for this new site; attracting thousands of readers and commentators every day. No newspaper, in their wildest dreams, would have even an aspiration of attracting 300 'Letters to the Editor'; Kate gets 1000 on a slow day! Lesson to the 'entitled' in the Canadian MSM - You messed with the wrong lady, the lady from SDA -hence, the msm is going down faster than a five ton bar of iron dropped in the open sea.

SDA gets results. Heh.

Posted by: Jema 54 at December 5, 2008 10:08 PM

The CBC is a massive boil on the ass of Canada.
If you had a massive boil on your ass, what would you do with it?
Seems self evident.

Posted by: Celina at December 5, 2008 10:39 PM

"If you had a massive boil on your ass, what would you do with it?"

Phone Bob Rae and say I have someone for him to run in a by-election.

Posted by: Manitoba Moosen at December 5, 2008 10:49 PM

EBD: ""There was absolutely no evidence of any partisan interest."

Tom Sawyer's pretty good at talking people into white washing his dirty agenda off the media's fence for their own good. I hope the Ombudsman got the white paint splatters off his clothes. It's a shame to wreck good clothes even if the bag of bones wearing them demonstrates no more common sense and ethics than the clothes hangars in his closet.

Posted by: Martin B. at December 6, 2008 12:53 AM
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