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December 5, 2008

Reader Tips

Good evening ladies and gentlemen, welcome to SDA Late Nite Radio. Tonight, for your delectation and pursuant to our Thursday night wild-card show, here is Bugs Bunny playing the role of our Right Honourable Prime Minister, with Rocky and Mugsy playing The Coalition Thugs, and a cameo role for the (second) policeman playing Her Excellency the Governor General, in the classic Bugs and [the Coalition] Thugs (1954, 7:12).

By the way, did something happen this week, or is there a bug in my SDA Comments per Day program?

I think something must have happened, because Vitruvius's Experimental Election Predictor hit 15.87 today, the highest it's been since 1984, the second highest ever in the years of data I have since 1962:

In other words, ladies and gentlemen, on the biggest issue of the year, here and as reported elsewhere, according to (for what they're worth) the best polls we have available, Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition(s) have been blown out of the water. Hornblower is smiling. The next big battle will be in late January, or before. Keep your powder dry.

And don't forget that when Mr. Harper achieved his first term as Prime Minister, it happened over Christmas. It's three years later now, and it's that time again. Between now and late January, and especially over the upcomming annual gatherings with friends and family, remember to gently and kindly remind people of what's going on here (yet don't, I think, in general, yell at them, or, in general, they won't be interested in listening).

Your Reader Tips are, as always, welcome in the comments.

Posted by Vitruvius at December 5, 2008 12:01 AM
Comments

Kate,

My wife found this online petition this morning. Almost 300,000 names on it so far.


http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?CANADIAN&1

Posted by: Brett at December 4, 2008 10:43 PM

Please vote down the Government in January. The Liberals might be reduced to 10 seats in English Canada.

Posted by: Ryan at December 4, 2008 10:45 PM

When I first pulled up the page with your graphic on it, Vitruvius, I thought I was looking at a chart of the US M3.

Posted by: Shaken at December 4, 2008 10:46 PM

Adler's Part II rant is brilliant

http://www.640toronto.com/StationShared/BlogAdler.aspx

Posted by: Warwick at December 4, 2008 10:54 PM

Did I hear Owliver right when he said this evening to Lloyd (paraphrasing), "This isn't a reprieve so much as it is a stay of execution for Harper"? He and Scott Reid should get together.

Then there was the Bloc guy (I think he was bloc...maybe PQ?) whose head I thought should have exploded from the cognitive dissonance when he said (again, paraphrasing, and please correct me if I got this completely wrong), "we are not separatists; Quebec is a nation and we are marching toward independence."

Posted by: Johann at December 4, 2008 10:57 PM

One of my favourite books when I was young was 'Flowers for Algernon'.Dion's career is similar,except I am not sad.

Posted by: wallyj at December 4, 2008 11:01 PM

It seems with the polls the way they are, Harper may be wishing for an election after all (again). I wonder what would happen is he put forward the exact same fiscal update in January? :-)
Dion's final parting gift is the ticket to a conservative majority.

Posted by: sf at December 4, 2008 11:16 PM

The Ipsos-Reid poll states that 62% of Canadians are angry at Le Coalition.

Does this number sound familiar? It is EXACTLY the same percentage of voters that we were told all week were against Harper and thus in support of Le Coalition. In other words, the Radical Left mouthpieces saw that the Conservatives had won 38% of the popular vote in the recent election, so they pulled out their calculators and did the math: 100% - 38% = 62%

On & on they went:
- 62% of Canadians support the Coalition
- 62% of Canadians elected a Coalition to govern Canada
- 62% of Canadians want Harper defeated

And on & on & on it went.

Anyone who has worked on a farm knows that bullshit can be shoveled forward for a time but eventually you look down and there's nothing more left to push forward.

Such is the case with most everything that comes out of the mouths of Canada's Left these days.

Posted by: Robert W. at December 4, 2008 11:25 PM

vitruvius - what a perfect, perfect find with that Bugs Bunny cartoon.
heh, Bugsy is Harper; then we have Mugsy, the driver, as Dion. And the Boss, Rocky, is Layton. What a riot. Thanks so much.

Posted by: ET at December 4, 2008 11:26 PM

"Do you tink hit's izzy....
Take 2
Do you tink hit's izzy to form.....
Take 3
Do you tink hit's izzy to form a coalish....
Take 4
Iggy, do you tink my job is izzy?

Posted by: Ghost of Ed at December 4, 2008 11:29 PM

Johann, "we are not separatists; Quebec is a nation and we are marching toward independence."

That would be Bernard Landry, the same twit that made the racist comment, "it is because of people like you that we lost our referendum", to a hotel clerk of Mexican origin on referendum night.

Posted by: Harry at December 4, 2008 11:34 PM

This old Harry Nillson tune sums up the impending breakup of the the 3 Stooges Coalition with a (language warning) little tune (and the gay overtones) that are oh so apropos.

Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwlP_gB5Ze8

Posted by: Eskimo at December 4, 2008 11:36 PM

Monty Python lends a hand: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLyQoDi9GNI

Posted by: Robert W. at December 4, 2008 11:39 PM

There may be another bonus to this attempted coup by the 'coalition of fools'. The media and COF are blaming the evil Harper for turning a 'political' crisis into an 'unity crisis'. He has created this by calling the Bloc Quebecois,'separatists'. Harper must be truly evil. Correct me if I am wrong,but is the separation from Canada not the ultimate,premiere,numero uno goal of the BQ............. But now it is so wrong to mention that fact. Marlene Jennings was on Newman's show saying that Harper is "whipping up hate'" by mentioning this. WTF. Are we now to believe that it is wrong to call people who vote for separation 'separatists'. Are they telling us that they only vote BQ because of other reasons besides separation? Nah,couldn't be..... I'll bet that the federalists are upset about all Quebecers being lumped with the BQ,but they are not the people that Duceppe represents.This 'unity crisis' is a fabrication and the blackmailing BQ may have just shown us their cards.

Posted by: wallyj at December 4, 2008 11:46 PM

CTV shows a pro-coalition rally on Parliament Hill today, and whose mug is in the very first shot in a tight close-up?

Judy Rebick.

Steve Paiken is doing a show on TVO about recent events; evidently Canada has one province: Quebec.

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at December 4, 2008 11:46 PM

A typical liberal spewing out the same talking points: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtLH7ZdSbX4

What's hilarious is that what he's saying appears to be about 2 to 3 days old. Everything he's now saying is moot.

I'm bombarding him with the new poll results. Join in the fun!

Posted by: Robert W. at December 4, 2008 11:49 PM

Dat looks like a hockey stick.

Posted by: foobert at December 4, 2008 11:50 PM

He shoots; he scores.

Posted by: Vitruvius at December 4, 2008 11:52 PM

A celebration of sorts, I guess, "Vintage Hungarian Sausage Commercial".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-6n0jlN0Eo&e

Posted by: ural at December 4, 2008 11:57 PM

Andrew Coyne's latest: http://blog.macleans.ca/category/blog-central/canada-blog/andrew-coynes-blog

I think the image he includes will be useful for another "Something for Dummies" PhotoShop I need to create!! :-)

Posted by: Robert W. at December 5, 2008 12:07 AM

Good on Robert! (Lumberjack!)

Posted by: Eskimo at December 5, 2008 12:08 AM

Maybe I'm cynical, but this whole thing was Dion getting back at Jack Layton for costing him the election. Why else blab about the coup BEFORE you vote down the Government? Why send the tape late and looking amateurish? Now, when Harper appoints Dion to the Senate on Christmas eve, Taliban Jack is toast.

Posted by: Ian Vaughan at December 5, 2008 12:13 AM

Dion to the Senate? Ian buddy, just because the egg nog is in the stores 3 weeks early doesn't mean you should overindulge. At least you could ease up on the rum you're adding to it.

Posted by: Eskimo at December 5, 2008 12:16 AM

ET: vitruvius - what a perfect, perfect find with that Bugs Bunny cartoon.
heh, Bugsy is Harper; then we have Mugsy, the driver, as Dion. And the Boss, Rocky, is Layton. What a riot. Thanks so much.

Brilliant, Vitruvius. Couldn't agree more with ET, as I almost always do. I've always loved classic WB cartoons since childhood some decades ago, and this has always been a standout. It's taken on all new meaning. Thanks! -- Norm

Posted by: Norm Bartley at December 5, 2008 12:27 AM

Robert w. I could only watch a little over two minutes.If you have an e-mail I will send him my thoughts. BTW,CTV had a clip of a pro-democracy(Harper)rally tonight in Edmonton. This lone fellow with a dissenting voice challenged one of the organizers...I know this is not relevant but he looked a feminine Clay Aiken...Anyways,when he was told "thanks for showing up,we admire your courage,but you really don't have an argument". He replied,"I don't need an argument".Too true,why back up anything with facts when you have emotion beating in your skinny chest.

Posted by: wallyj at December 5, 2008 12:36 AM

From Coyne's;

Notes On The Crisis: The End

kody
Dec 4, 2008 21:43


[ Looking at the poll numbers (which mirror the reaction I’ve been referring to all week) as compared to the media’s reaction, as I’ve also done,

Kate at SDA accurately summarizes events thusly:

“Meaning Canadians are in the process of rejecting the propoganda of mainstream talking heads and pundits. If you want the pulse of the nation, talk radio is where it’s at, baby. In all of this mess, they were the only ones who got it right. ”

Note to the mainstream media:

learn from the downfall of the New York Times. Continue on with your myopic worldview that ends at the Toronto/Ottawa coctail party scene, at your own peril. ]

Bet that caused some latte to spill !

Posted by: ron in kelowna at December 5, 2008 12:43 AM

Eskimo, It stirs the pot, and Dion wouldn't do anything in the senate except confuse the Liberals even more.

Posted by: Ian Vaughan at December 5, 2008 12:44 AM

In the middle of the last election, I came across an article that suggested that one thing the Conservatives needed to do in order to supplant the Liberals as the Natural Governing Party of Canada (on a permanent basis) was to conquer the federalist territory of Quebec.

The author had noted that Harper had studied enough of Canadian electoral history to learn that long term political success in Canadian elections sided with the Quebec federalist side and not with the Quebec nationalist/separatist side. However, the author made one further point: the Quebec federalist ground would need to be surrendered by the Liberals. I do not remember the author (may have been Tom Flanagan). I cannot find the article but would love to reread the article in consideration of recent events if any other SDAers remember reading said article.

I was away from the site for most of November; when I came back I noticed the spike in comments Vitruvuis alludes to in an understatement. Yet, I thought I would restrain myself and see what happens. It appears that, once again, caution pays dividends and the suspension of Parliament allows for a thoughtful process to proceed.

Thanks in advance to anyone who posts a link to the aforementioned article.

Posted by: Brent Weston at December 5, 2008 12:51 AM

Vitruvuis - > Vitruvius

Posted by: Brent Weston at December 5, 2008 12:55 AM

Posted by a CBC commentor:
"...... I've already received death threats from conservative supporters on Jack Layton's facebook page just because I voted NDP. I urge moderate conservatives to renounce violence on behalf of their more fundamentalist counterparts and no longer issue these political fatwas...."
Death threats ... towards CBCers....by conservatives.....WE'RE NOT MAKING THIS UP!!!

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/12/04/constitution-expert.html

Posted by: edncda at December 5, 2008 12:56 AM

Dear edncda,

Rather than just calling the fellow a liar, I decided to post this on the Jack Layton Facebook group I just joined:

An "Adrian Weber" has stated on a CBC News forum that " I've already received death threats from conservative supporters on Jack Layton's facebook page just because I voted NDP." I would most appreciate it if he or someone else could direct me the specific dates & times where these occurred. Thank you.


If I get any response I will let you all know. Why do I think I won't hear a peep?

Posted by: Robert W. at December 5, 2008 1:04 AM

Here's a new name for the Coalition...BL oc-LI beral-ND p. The BLIND Party. Also, anybody have the e-mail for Ed Broadbent? I have a special message for him and Boob Rae.

Posted by: Pete at December 5, 2008 1:06 AM

The path to Conservative dominance

It turns out I was using incorrect search criteria. My apologies to the author, Andrew Steele; it was not Mr. Flanagan. The article was also written after the last election. Oh well, the article is still a good read. A few excerpts follow:

The surer course is to capture the federalist pole from the Liberals in Quebec. This might mean fewer seats in Quebec in the short-term, but it would form a solid intellectual foundation that could be maintained for generations. This position would have coherence - pro-Canada in both Quebec and the rest of the country - as opposed to being contradictory, like the existing coalition of "francophones and Francophobes."

To undertake this strategic shift would require increasing the support of Quebec allophones for the Conservatives, a similar strategy to their methodical micro-targeting of East Asian Canadians in Ontario and B.C. It would mean targeting the Anglophones of Montreal and displacing the Liberals as their choice.

It would also require one development Mr. Harper cannot control: the Liberals selecting a leader and a strategy to sacrifice the federalist pole in Quebec for a play to the soft nationalist vote. Mr. Harper cannot seize the federalist pole alone; it must be willingly surrendered.

The result would be the complete reorientation of the Canadian party system. No longer would the dominant force be a Liberal Party built around a strong national government to protect minority rights, with a weaker Conservative Party that can only win a majority of seats by forging an ends-against-the-middle compromise with Quebec nationalists.

Instead, a strongly pro-Canada nationalist Conservative Party would be the dominant party. The Liberals would likely fade away in time after losing their primary anchor in the party system. The chief opposition party would be a pro-Quebec, social democratic NDP/Bloc hybrid, strong in those hotbeds of the anti-establishment: downtown Vancouver, downtown Toronto and francophone Quebec.

Politics would be much more similar to the 19th century. There would be a traditionalist Blue party intent on building a unique pan-Canadian identity, and a radical anti-authoritarian Red party dedicated to a cosmopolitan and differentiated Canada. The two parties would bracket the centre, fighting over the middle vacated by the once dominant centrist behemoth.

This strategy would bring the Conservatives back to where Diefenbaker left off: The project of building a strongly nationalist, British North American alternative to the United States. It would attempt to build a unified "Canada" of more than just laws and flags, but of one culture and one people, if two languages. Perhaps George Grant even wrote the future Conservative slogan in Lament for a Nation: "Canadians first, foremost and always."

Posted by: Brent Weston at December 5, 2008 1:16 AM

P.S. For anyone interested, the charge made by "Adrian Weber" was at 11:28pm ET on Dec 4th.

I just followed up on the CBC forum, asking "Adrian" to bring to my attention on Facebook precisely who made the death threats to him. I went on & on & on about what a serious thing such death threats are (which they are by the way) and that the perpetrators must be found & punished. I told him that I would be immediately contacting the RCMP on his behalf once he provided the evidence.

What I didn't say, but perhaps he'll think about, is that making false accusations is also a crime, like crying "Fire" in a theatre when there isn't one.

We know that many on the Radical Left won't be sleeping well for 2 months. Perhaps this will be even more the case for our death threat "victim" tonight!

Posted by: Robert W. at December 5, 2008 1:18 AM

Pete.please do not e-mail Broadbent.The more attention he receives,the longer he will stick around.Ignore the man.Chretien has slithered off.Maybe Ed will also. Hopefully the next time we hear or see either of them will be on an episode of "Whatever happened to ..." and there will be a short interview of Ed,Jean and Joe Who sipping tea and sneering in their soiled diapers under a bridge.

Posted by: wallyj at December 5, 2008 1:24 AM

"Hopefully the next time we hear or see either of them will be on an episode of "Whatever happened to .."

Or that they are dead!

Horny Toad

Posted by: Horny Toad at December 5, 2008 1:44 AM

I had this thought today -- if Don Cherry was governor-general, a lot of this would never have happened.

Don Cherry for G-G !!!

Posted by: Peter O'Donnell at December 5, 2008 2:35 AM

We're now famous ... courtesy of Mark Steyn explaining Canada's fiasco to Americans everywhere on Hugh Hewitt's show:

Program Guide: http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/talkradio/Show.aspx?RadioShowID=5

Audio: http://townhall.edgeboss.net/download/townhall/audio/mp3/55419f09-e16c-48e6-a9b2-f92b4503842f.mp3

Transcript: http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/talkradio/transcripts/Transcript.aspx?ContentGuid=ae7104c7-5abf-417a-ac67-faaf9a8867f3

Posted by: Robert W. at December 5, 2008 5:34 AM

I don't know wallyj, was Dion ever as smart as the main character in the book?

Or are you refering to the mouse?

Posted by: AtlanticJim at December 5, 2008 6:15 AM

From the National Post:

Big Loser: Derek Lee. CBC was desperate to fill air time as they waited for Stephen Harper to finish his chat with Michaelle Jean, so they made the mistake of interviewing Lee, who promptly compared Harper's request to suspend Parliament to the burning of the German Reichstag by the Nazis in 1933. Yeah Derek, they're exactly alike: a party of murderous thugs burning Parliament to the ground is just like the Prime Minister driving to Rideau Hall to request a temporary halt in proceedings while he prepares a budget. How astute of you to spot the similarities.

Posted by: Robert W. at December 5, 2008 6:24 AM

Research shows:
Fire. Them. All.

We are not making this "stuff" up.
...-

"CBC to retune its TV news division"

""We've done a considerable amount of research on this," Mr. Keay said. "It's not stuff that we're just thinking up and doing.""

"Its website will be called upon to handle breaking stories first,"

"Newsworld will not necessarily wait for the definitive word on a story before beginning to report,"

"The broadcaster said the revamp is strategic, rather than an effort to cut costs."
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081205.wcbc05/BNStory/Entertainment/home

Posted by: maz2 at December 5, 2008 6:55 AM

"“He's going to carry the can,” said one of his chief strategists."

Mao Stlong say, my nephew Boob Lae has goody can.
How many cans you wan?
Can-Can Boob goody for flee LaeDays.
...-

"Rae steps in as coalition's chief salesman"

Sample Comment:

" Conrad in Van from Canada writes: Rae is an appropriate surrogate for Dion. Stephané has just been terrible when it mattered most. Dion has failed too many times. Rae can kick the verbal-snot out of any of Harpers mouthpieces like Baird or Van Loan but most importantly Harper himself.

Ignatieff might be better election time but Rae is the man we need right now. I watched him with Don Newman moments after the news broke that the House was under lockout. Rae pulverized the whole lockout move in two seconds. He clear and concise why this was bad for Canada.

Dion came on and just made no sense at all. Making the move seem almost like a good thing. They need to promise to pay his leadership debts and send him far away from the Canadian public for the next few months.

He is political kryptonite for the Liberals right now"
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081205.wparlliberals05/CommentStory/politics/home#comments

Posted by: maz2 at December 5, 2008 7:03 AM

" Rush hour traffic across the Ottawa River ground to a halt yesterday as commuters were forced to detour around the Chaudiere Bridge, which was closed due to structural damage.

The Department of Public Works, which owns the bridge, discovered "deterioration of the masonry arches" during a routine maintenance inspection Wednesday.

"We have to close the bridge for security reasons," said Public Works spokeswoman Nathalie Betote Akwa. "We are trying to open the bridge for cars and pedestrians as soon as possible."

However, the bridge remains closed until further notice as workers try to determine the extent of the damage. "

Having worked at Public Works I can tell you it is the most radical department in government. I do not believe for a second this is anything less than a shakedown for more infrastructure funds designed to make Harper look bad.

Posted by: Ottawa Tory at December 5, 2008 8:03 AM

I know the contest is over (and I hope no one else has already 'come' up with this) but I have a new name for the menage a trois.

Premature Ejacoalition

Posted by: Matt Hillier at December 5, 2008 8:04 AM

Re: maz2 link to Bob Rae "stepping in", my colleague just had me ROFLMAO with a comment:

"Dig UP, stupid!"

Posted by: Johann at December 5, 2008 8:08 AM

Brent Weston at 1:16 AM, thank you for pointing to that excellent analysis. It gives hope that the past 35 years of "...anti-establishment... radical anti-authoritarian...cosmopolitan and differentiated..." creep, might not be allowed to permanently supplant the true nature of our Canadian culture after all.

Posted by: glasnost at December 5, 2008 8:19 AM

For a prediction of how coupscam will unfold, I'm going with Right Honorable Terry Tory who posted a great analysis to SDA on
December 1, 2008 10:52 AM.

I wonder if Mr. Tory's insight is inspired by a little inside information.

Posted by: glasnost at December 5, 2008 8:43 AM

(Via SWJ) Jennifer Harper, Blogging dangerous for foreign journalists

Blogging can be a dangerous business.

More bloggers and online scribes have been jailed worldwide than any other breed of journalists, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ), which released its annual "prison census" survey Thursday.

Almost half — 45 percent — of all media workers jailed worldwide are bloggers, Web-based reporters or online editors, representing the largest professional category for the first time in CPJs prison census.

"Online journalism has changed the media landscape and the way we communicate with each other," said CPJ Executive Director Joel Simon. "But the power and influence of this new generation of online journalists has captured the attention of repressive governments around the world, and they have accelerated their counterattack."

...

Posted by: Charles MacDonald at December 5, 2008 9:11 AM

(Via SWJ) Jennifer Harper, Blogging dangerous for foreign journalists

Blogging can be a dangerous business.

More bloggers and on[snip] scribes have been jailed worldwide than any other breed of journalists, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ), which released its annual "prison census" survey Thursday.

Almost half — 45 percent — of all media workers jailed worldwide are bloggers, Web-based reporters or on&*(% editors, representing the largest professional category for the first time in CPJs prison census.

"On[snip] journalism has changed the media landscape and the way we communicate with each other," said CPJ Executive Director Joel Simon. "But the power and influence of this new generation of on@#6* journalists has captured the attention of repressive governments around the world, and they have accelerated their counterattack."

...

Posted by: Charles MacDonald at December 5, 2008 9:14 AM

""On[snip] journalism has changed the media landscape and the way we communicate with each other," said CPJ Executive Director Joel Simon. "But the power and influence of this new generation of on@#6* journalists has captured the attention of repressive governments around the world, and they have accelerated their counterattack."

In other words,most bloggers don't kowtow to tinpot dictators,and are a threat to us journalists who do.Why must the bloggers insist on going out into the real slums/ghettos/war zones and getting the real story,instead of staying in the Hilton bar and sucking up drinks from the benevolent leaders? They are a threat to our grant money and must be punished.

Posted by: Justthinkin at December 5, 2008 9:38 AM

glasnost:

You are welcome. I'll see your 35 years and raise you 10. I think one should include all of Trudeau's years as problematic. I understand not everyone will link Pearson's years in with the radical leftist agenda but I think an argument can be made that the slide began with Pearson and was acclerated greatly by Trudeau rather than beginning with Trudeau.

Posted by: Brent Weston at December 5, 2008 10:03 AM

Nice, Matt!

This wouldn't be the Matt Hillier that used to wander around Cornwall looking like Julian from TPB, would it?

Posted by: Yukon Gold at December 5, 2008 10:15 AM


Did you guys read what Scott Reid wrote for the G&M??
and they cleaned it up for him!!

A Conservative would be positively skewered for this!

" Their imperative could not be more clear: kill him. Kill him dead. Do not, whatever you do, provide him with an opportunity to extend his hold on power. Because you can be damn certain he will never again be so reckless as to give you a chance to finish him off."

http://choiceforchildcare.blogspot.com/2008/11/kill-him-kill-him-dead-scott-reid-plans.html#links

Posted by: Marcia at December 5, 2008 10:24 AM

STOPIGG, er Stop the Presses.
This is not breaking news; just, nooses for the MSM.
...-

"Ad losses send industry into a tailspin

Across the United States, more than 30 daily newspapers are for sale, and buyers are scarce.

From Los Angeles to New York, leading newspapers have slashed newsrooms with buyout offers, and when those failed to reach budget-cutting goals, with layoffs.

The newspaper industry has been caught in a tailspin for three years, a trend variously blamed on plummeting ad revenues, declining readership, growing competition from the Internet and a deepening national recession.

On Thursday, Colorado's oldest newspaper joined the growing list of dailies on the market. E.W. Scripps Co., owner of the 149-year-old Rocky Mountain News, offered to sell it after reporting an $11 million loss through the first nine months of this year."
http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_11142071

Posted by: maz2 at December 5, 2008 10:29 AM

I believe with all of my heart that Bob Rae is the instigator behind all of this chaos in our federal government.

This has nothing to do about Canadians - it is about POWER for him and his backroom cabal.

Bob Rae has stated he will NEVER try to get along and make this parliament work.

He has stated that he wants to get rid of Stephen Harper.

I believe that he is trying to destroy his competition and the conservative party BEFORE there is an election as he knows that if he is Liberal leader against Harper he will lose.

Do you think Canadians or even other Liberals should endorse a person who is destabalizing our country at these serious times?

Do you think the media should continue their Bob Rae gee he's such a great guy RAH RAH when he is intent on using wedges to destroy our country's unity.

Do you not think Rae's affiliations and backroom stories should be told?

Posted by: Marie at December 5, 2008 10:36 AM

Socialist Miliband says socialist Mugabe is no longer socialism's Great Black Hope "for change".
The natural end result of socialism: Death.
...-

"Miliband slams Mugabe's 'rogue' regime in Zimbabwe
AFP - 44 minutes ago
LONDON (AFP) - Foreign Secretary David Miliband on Friday slammed the Zimbabwean government as a "rogue" regime, saying the cholera crisis demonstrated President Robert Mugabe has dashed hope for change."

Posted by: maz2 at December 5, 2008 10:38 AM

Did anyone else get an email from John McKay, MP. I did a mass email to all Liberal MP's indicating that their kamikaze mission would only result in their own destruction (although I stated it so much more eloquently) and yesterday and again this morning I got a form letter that was laughable. I then took about 15 minutes and rattled off why Stephen Harper is the best Prime Minister I've ever had, and would back it up with a financial contribution to the Conservatives. Do you think I'll hear back? They have no money so they are using email - it is to laugh. Oh, and then I forwarded it and my response to my MP Vic Toews for his reading pleasure. If I may borrow a phrase from the Great One, "We have a righteous wind at our backs!"

Posted by: Nicole at December 5, 2008 11:10 AM

That looks like the hockey stick graph to me. Apparently all of the hot air in Parliament the past few weeks has contributed to AGW.

Posted by: Indiana Homez at December 5, 2008 11:19 AM

"Mr Zhou warned that the real rate of urban joblessness reached 12% this year and could reach 14% next year as the economy slows."

Mao Stlong say, my nephew Boob Lae, GM of Sepalatist Coarition, fix up jobs chop chop.
GM Boob Lae says Mr. Ed Oshawa goody comlade.
...-

"China 'faces mass social unrest'

About 500 protesters rioted at a toy factory in southern China on 25 November 2008
Chinese authorities have already had to deal with workers' protests
Rising unemployment and the economic slowdown could cause massive social turmoil in China, a leading scholar in the Communist Party has said.

"The redistribution of wealth through theft and robbery could dramatically increase and menaces to social stability will grow," Zhou Tianyong, a researcher at the Central Party School in Beijing, wrote in the China Economic Times.

"This is extremely likely to create a reactive situation of mass-scale social turmoil," he wrote.

His views do not reflect leadership policy but highlight worries in elite circles about the impact of the economic slowdown.

Mr Zhou warned that the real rate of urban joblessness reached 12% this year and could reach 14% next year as the economy slows."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7766921.stm
...-

"GM to lay off 1400 workers in Oshawa Globe and Mail"

Posted by: maz2 at December 5, 2008 11:25 AM

nicole - yes, I got one from John McKay, and sent him a blistering reply, with copies to other MPs and the PM.

Posted by: ET at December 5, 2008 11:40 AM

Yukon Gold: I don't believe so. As far as I can recall I've never been to Cornwall, although I've had periods in the past where a rum & coke was glued to my right hand so anything's possible. ;-)

Posted by: Matt Hillier at December 5, 2008 12:18 PM

ET/Nicole

how lucky you were,

mine was from Hedy Fry and I'm in NW AB!

The subject of my email was "No to the coalition" and it was so funny getting it back with that in her reply.

Posted by: Glenn at December 5, 2008 12:22 PM

In the spirit of: "Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know" - am I alone in seeing Rae as a greater threat to Canada's well-being than Duceppe?

Posted by: edncda at December 5, 2008 12:49 PM

CBC:
"Future of coalition, Dion's leadership uncertain"

The comments are worth it:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/12/05/coalition-parties.html
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Compas poll: 50 + 1 = 51%.

"If an election were held today, Stephen Harper would win a large majority based on nation-wide support of 51% compared to 20% for the Liberals, 10% for the NDP, 6% for the Greens, and 8% for the Bloc. Harper would sweep seat-rich Ontario with 53% of the vote compared to 24% for the Liberals and 10% for the NDP in that province and would surpass Dion in Quebec with 32% of the vote compared to 19% for the Liberals and 35% for the Bloc.

Key factors in this lightening speed transformation of public opinion:"
http://www.bourque.org/notes.html

Posted by: maz2 at December 5, 2008 1:24 PM

Here is the Canadian MSM in all its ugliness:

"turns the focus of a distracted nation back to the progress - or lack thereof - Canada has made in Afghanistan".

Meanwhile, Taliban Jack Layton (NDP)'s Ma Layton and Son of PET display their egotistical narcissism.

The casualties have now reached 100. Prepare for the onslaught from the left-liberals. It will be an orgy of a Death Watch.
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"Deaths of 100 Canadian soldiers turns nation's focus back to Afghan mission
The deaths of three more Canadian soldiers brings to 100 the number of troops killed on the Afghan mission since 2002, and turns the focus of a distracted nation back to the progress - or lack thereof - Canada has made in Afghanistan over the last seven years. Full Story(canoe)
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"Trudeau and Layton: Leave our families alone

The recent political fad in Ottawa of tossing around the names of dead relatives has annoyed Pierre Trudeau's son - and left Jack Layton's mother sputtering in rage" (canoe)

Posted by: maz2 at December 5, 2008 1:35 PM

Maz2,

saw the headline over at the G&M. The media now have their out to turn the nation's attention.

Posted by: Glenn at December 5, 2008 2:01 PM

it so important, they have tagged it to the wrong story.


http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/2008/12/05/7646041-cp.html

Posted by: cal2 at December 5, 2008 2:30 PM

There was a pro-coalition rally in Calgary last night. I caught a clip of it this morning while having my coffee. They talked to the organizer,Grant Neufeld,who described himself as your average Joe ,not a member of the NDP or Libs,he was just concerned about our country,yada,yada,yada,.Anyways I thought the guy looked familiar ,so I googled his name. Average Joe just happens to be the head honcho of the Alberta Greens. How about that? So I phoned Global news and enlightened them. The clip was not shown in the next rotation. I don't know about after that,went to work,but I do hope that Global gave him a good blast about telling the truth,the whole truth.

Posted by: wallyj at December 5, 2008 3:48 PM

and I thought justin and sacha got their effeminancy from maggie.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkzdLbpS3Rs&feature=related

Posted by: cal2 at December 5, 2008 3:54 PM

Congrats!

Posted by: Manny at December 5, 2008 3:54 PM

Iggie this minute, on MDL, says that Prime Minister Stephen Harper is "trying to divide the Liberal Party."

Huh? Come again, dingbat????? You've got to be kidding.

I really can't stand this guy. He's a smarmy, smug, ivory-tower, out-of-touch, leftosphere sycophant.

Why don't you go back "home" to Hahvahd? And stop blaming our fine Prime Minister for a crisis of your despicable party's own making.

Most Canadians can see through your party's thuggery and dishonesty. And please don't lecture us about "Canadian values." What would you, of all people, know about that? You chose not to live in Canada for almost 30 years.

Posted by: batb at December 5, 2008 5:16 PM

Glasnost at 8:43 am:

If I may be so immodest to say, on December 2nd I noted the following here at SDA:

"A scenarios that could occur:

Harper prorogues the house or postpones Opposition days for a length of time.

Harper holds a televised "address to the nation" and explains that, while distasteful, the coup attempt is constitutional. However:

- since the economy is so bad, this is no time for coalition governments...too much critical time would be lost...markets are already affected by the turmoil
- neither the NDP nor Liberals ran on a platform of raising taxes or posting deficits, and have consistently denounced doing so in the interim...now they want to go into huge deficit spending
- although 63% of the population voted for a party other than the Conservatives, EXACTLY ZERO PERCENT voted for a coalition
- in the interim, the government will hold a binding referendum on the issue of governance by a coalition...based on the results, in March, Canada will either keep the status quo, go to election or let the coalition government run

Put all your cards on the table and let the people of Canada see your hand. We'll decide in a democratic manner as to what happens to our government using ALL of the FACTS...bypassing the MSM spin."

I messed up with the prediction of a binding referendum...maybe it will be an election in late January. But I predicted the national address.

Just thought I'd toot my own horn. Do you suppose this is another case of "SDA getting results"?

Posted by: Eeyore at December 5, 2008 6:50 PM

The plot thickens.

Listen to this:

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/081205/national/parliament_crisis_video

The Canadian Press

[begin quote]

Stephane Dion's grainy, amateur video address to the nation this week was the result of a series of miscues, from a broken camera to rushed, last-minute editing, insiders say.

The session was taped by one of Dion's closest aides, Mick Gzowski, son of late CBC icon Peter Gzowski. His wife is the Liberal leader's English-language trainer.

Gzowski is in charge of broadcast communications for the Liberal research bureau and recorded the address with a digital camera.

Insiders say an auto-focus button on the camera was broken, stuck in the locked position. As a result, the focus was on a bookcase behind Dion rather than on the Liberal leader himself, leaving his face slightly fuzzy.

The last sentence of the printed version of his address was omitted from the final recorded version, possibly for its ambiguity.

[end quote]

The CBC and the Liberals are a seamless garment. How ironic that the great Liberal booster is connected through the Gzowski thread to the imminent demise of Dion.

More hubris.


Posted by: batb at December 5, 2008 9:18 PM

This is interesting ,to me anyway. Oliver on cbc referred to the going-ons in Ottawa as a 'confederacy of dunces'. This is the title of one of my all-time favourite books,light reading but hilarious,it won a Pulitzer. The main character's name is Ignatius Reilly,or Iggy.Coincidence, subconscious thought,or something else?

Posted by: wallyj at December 5, 2008 10:26 PM
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