Out of all this Mess there comes a smile & a long over due laugh
thanks Kate & cklf-fm

Dreadful. Just dreadful. Both Dion's spectacular self-inflicted gaffe and this ... 'singer'.

lmao

unfortunatly Brandon will have that NDP mla for some time. There are people in that riding that have voted NDP all their lives, when the election is called, they go into their attics and pull out NDP signs for canidates from 40 years ago. Sadly, I don't think they even realize that guy is running anymore either.

They need to dump "Do-over" Dion, or they'll never be able to come back from this.

Awesome, true western canadian humour, love it. In Brandon we overwhelming support the conservatives federally. Provencially is sometimes a different story just like Saskechewan.

I think it was lay back and think of England.

Absolutely f*&ng hilarious, I want the whole album

Makes me proud to be a Manitoban.

This from John Ivison in the NP:

"Word from the Liberal emergency caucus that is currently taking place:
Ivison - “Is the coalition unravelling?”
Liberal MP - “It’s coming apart at the seams.”

Yes, ligneus, but QEII was pretty hot in her salad days.

http://tinyurl.com/6767hc

I just photoshopped together a little something: http://pelalusa.blogspot.com/2008/12/video-for-dummies.html

Kate (et al): Feel free to click on the thumbnail and repost a copy on here if you wish!

I read a book a couple years ago by Jim Collins called "Good to Great". One of the key traits I remember about outstanding company leaders is that they always set up the company for success long after they're gone (They used Lee Iacocca from Chrysler as an example of the wrong way to do it). Having said this, has anyone else noticed a trend in the federal libs? Something like outgoing party leaders screwing over the party for years to come in order to satisfy some particular personal whim? In this regard, methinks Dion has some things he could teach Chretien.

In a room full of 6 year old friends of my kid, some kid will yell "doggy pile on-insert name-!!!!" They drop the lego or hockey sticks and focus on that task in a manner far beyond their years.

Comedy erupts. Nothing funnier.

I so see Dion on the bottom of that pile right now

I just photoshopped together a little something: http://pelalusa.blogspot.com/2008/12/video-for-dummies.html

Kate (et al): Feel free to click on the thumbnail and repost a copy on here if you wish!

You know your party is in trouble when:

Al-Quaeda's propaganda videos have better production values than your own....

"they go into their attics and pull out NDP signs for canidates from 40 years ago"

Wonder if they would still vote for Layton et al if they kniew in advance he would drop his key policy planks just so he could butt-kanoodle with the Bloc and play second fiddle to Liberals ?

No tax relief for business
Drop opposition to Afghanistan operations
Accepting only 25% of Cabinet seats - and none of them financial ones - despite having almost 50% as many seats as Dion (37 vs 77)

Layton sold out the NDP voters so he could enjoy personal power.

Liberal trolls, please report for duty here, where PM-in-waiting Dion's performance is lauded by the faithful.

Best line: "put the ring on the Bloc's finger".

Absolutely terrible song, but still better quality than the Dion speech.

Let me get this right, the Liberal Party did not have a teleprompter so Stephane had to read from a laptop and look totally ridiculous. Some coalition, you would think one of the other parties might have lent them one????

(To those who have seen this before, sorry for the repeat, I posted to the wrong thread the first time)

OK...let's try this again; I resume everyone has heard about LIB MP Karygiannis?
http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5gKkHKYuHREK_tpDtulb7xUdKqt1Q

Liberal resolve to bring down the Conservative government is already starting to crumble.

Within an hour of Prime Minister Stephen Harper winning a two-month reprieve, some Grit MPs were pulling back from the idea of trying to replace the Tory regime with a Liberal-NDP coalition propped up by the Bloc Quebecois.

Toronto MP Jim Karygiannis says the coalition idea is finished and is calling on Stephane Dion to resign the Liberal leadership sooner rather than later.

If this is a duplicate or it is posted elsewhere, my apologies as I had considerable difficulty posting before.

Snowflakes on Rideau and votes of division,
Tapes that were cobbled together by children,
Liberal MPs about to take wings,
These are a few of my favourite things;

When the writ drops,
When Dion flops
More and more in the polls,
I like to watch as Ignatieff grins
and Bob Rae considers new roles.

Harper on TV like somebody's uncle,
Layton always there like some old carbuncle,
Somebody haul out an old rusty crock,
We just might need one to sautee the Bloc.

Dion Dion. Yes yes, we all know. Always did.

But what does this say about all who knew him well in the past ?

Wiki;
[ Dion was involved with the sovereignty movement, first as a teenager attending a Jesuit college in Quebec City,[7], and later as a university student campaigning for Parti Québécois candidate Louise Beaudoin in the 1976 election.[8] Mr. Dion described his experience as follows:

Because the party was there... I wanted to challenge my dad... the way to become an adult sometimes is to say the contrary to your father. Each evening, I would try out a new argument I had heard on the separatist network and my father was demolishing it... My father very quietly and very respectfully was refuting me, without insulting me. ]

Should have.

[ " I was sitting at my computer at 11 o'clock, and, at noon, I had a text that was so interesting that the Americans wanted to publish it. It was on that day that I realized I was truly a federalist." ] Dion

Dedication - easy come, easy go ?

[ In anticipation of by-elections in early 1996, Jean Chrétien appointed two new "star candidates" from Quebec – Stéphane Dion and Pierre Pettigrew. ]

Thank you thank you Jean Chretien !! Poor character judge, are you ?? Sure hope other countries we're not watching last night.

Say !! Was it not also JC who came up with this bright idea !? - a coalition.

[ Chrétien felt safe in appointing Dion to Cabinet because Dion was slated to run in Saint-Laurent–Cartierville, the second-safest Liberal riding in Quebec.]

Ahawwww, that explains it !!

[ On December 2, 2006 at the Liberal Party leadership convention, Dion finished third after the first ballot, garnering 17.8% of the delegates. After the second ballot, Gerard Kennedy threw his support behind Dion. Earlier, the two leadership contenders had allegedly struck a pact in which the first off the ballot would throw his support to the other.]

SO - Dion has made deals before ! Sneeeekee.

And Dion goes on to win the LPC Ledership with 54.7 % of the votes cast.

Think about this. Hundreds of Liberal delegates made a conscious effort to pick this guy as a leader - not only of the Liberals but potentially the leader of a First World Country.

Says a lot about the party make up.

Love the editorial comment Kate!!

I must say this coalition posturing is a bit much for our democratic Canada. Their eagerness to replace Harper whatever the cost is obvious, and will certainly be short-lived come next election. I am in genuine disbelief that the libs and ndp have been flirtatious with the bloc, resulting in this udderly distasteful ménage a trois.

I must say this coalition posturing is a bit much for our democratic Canada. Their eagerness to replace Harper whatever the cost is obvious, and will certainly be short-lived come next election. I am in genuine disbelief that the libs and ndp have been flirtatious with the bloc, resulting in this udderly distasteful ménage a trois.

Neener neener, Lefties!

unraveling . . . .

"Thursday, December 04, 2008
Liberal MP Jim Karygiannis says coalition is finished, Dion should resign

And then there were two.

After emerging from a closed-door meeting with the Liberal caucus, the MP for Scarborough-Agincourt Jim Karygiannis shared some critical words for the leadership and communication skills of Liberal leader Stephane Dion with the press:

"The coalition -- the way that we're going right now -- it won't survive. I can't see it surviving. We have somebody who can't communicate and someone who can't communicate, its hard, its very hard...

"My French is limited. But I can tell you one thing: if I can communicate in English, I can communicate in English. If you can't communicate to the other 60 percent of the people when they listen to you -- and its a terrible speech and we bombed in the election. Well it says it right there, we bombed. We went from 96 seats to 76 seats...

"I know the NDP are vicious, and vicious when it comes to electing people of Parliament... It's not that I have mistrust of the NDP, I just think we need a better communication's person. Our communication sucks, it was shown last night. What else is there to say? "

"lay back and think of the Queen"???

funny we havent heard from Scooter Brison on this.

That Un-Scientific Poll over at ctv.ca
Holding at 71% agree with the GG over 12,000 votes

I thought the line should have been ,"have you ever seen his brain".

I "published" this on Kinsella's blog @ 4:25 EST - so we will see.

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If I have this all straight;

In anticipation of by-elections in early 1996, Jean Chrétien appointed two new "star candidates" from Quebec – Stéphane Dion and Pierre Pettigrew.

And

Chrétien felt safe in appointing Dion to Cabinet because Dion was slated to run in Saint-Laurent–Cartierville, the second-safest Liberal riding in Quebec.

And

The Idea of a Grand Coalition was .... Chretien's.

And it all came crashing down in Rick Mercier fashion last night!!

Poor HR manager ?

Why did this coalition need three separate people -- Borat, Taliban Jack and Duceppe-- all commenting after Harper? Aren't they one for all and all for one? Never mind the Liberal tape screw-up. They can't even get out of the gate unified. This coaliton will unravel like a badly-knit sweater.

Stephane the Supine: Next time, get a fan to start a YouTube page in your honor... like Tasha Kheiriddin has.

Jack the Weasle seems to be getting off easy in this. J-weasle was after all the one who started the coalition talks with the Bloc. Dion seems to be getting the brunt of the criticism, I think people should cool it about Dion because he is more than capable of destroying himself.
Kate I see you had a picture of a Nickle here yesterday was that a weaser or a beavle pictured on the coin? Just wondering.

Here is an important message for those of you who still support the Liberal/NDP/Bloc coalition.

Does it make me a racist if I say it reminds me of Brocket 99?

Do ya tink tis easy decide to make who we want to be da Prime Minisder?

That Un-Scientific Poll over at ctv.ca
Holding at 71% agree with the GG over 12,000 votes

Just the other way around over at G&M.
Surprise.

cal2: that would be "BEND OVER and think of the Queen" in Brison's case.

wow, look at all the tears within the CBC comments. They are taking this even worse than their loss during the election.

capt_bob @4:31PM: The NDP never had much downside in this whole sordid affair. The only vote pool they could poach from was occupied by the Liberals, so for the NDP, this is a win, no matter what happens. If the coalition proceeds, they gain significant power (read: can hand out pork to their supporters and base, and feather some nests), if the coalition fails, the Liberals take the heat and leave an opening to take up at least the left side of the Liberal spectrum. There was really never a price Jack was going to pay for failure.

That should have been part of Dion's calculus and been a huge red flag - that someone is trying hard to sell me something risky, but they actually have no downside - but I am guessing that aspects of Dion's character got in the way of rationality. A sad legacy to be sure.

It's the Liberals, and the Liberals alone that will take the beating for this, and well they should. They are trying to show the good old Liberal solidarity, but it's quite obvious that their tried and true base, Liberal voters in Ontario, are outraged, and betrayed. They thought the Liberals represented stability and national unity. That's gone out the window now. I live among this voting base, and am in constant daily, informal contact. Friends and neighbors. I tell you, the Liberals are going off to the Gulag of Quebec, where they can scratch out an existence with the Bloc. In my wildest dreams, I could not imagine such an intense and sudden meltdown.

I actually hope that someone with their head screwed on straight splashes some cold water over the Liberals and snaps them out of it before its too late. The country is better off having an effective opposition that is not in the pockets of separatists, or petulant trade unions, than a complete meltdown and unipolar representation outside of Quebec.

Let me see if I have this all straight.

The NDP had already hatched a plan for a bloodless coup d’etat prior to the economic statement by Mr. Flaherty.
It apparently didn’t matter that Canadians just voted and elected Mr. Harper. Mr. Layton doesn’t care that we just had a $300 million election.
Mr. Dion announced his intention to step down, but the coup will put him into the Prime Minister’s office even though he got the fewest votes of any Liberal since Confederation.
The Bloc Quebecois holds the balance of power and the key to government stability. Hang on, do I have this right? Mr. Duceppe is the defacto Prime Minister in this game of political monopoly?
So, to recap:
Mr. Harper won, but really lost the election. Mr. Layton lost, but actually won. Mr. Dion quit but is going to be Prime Minister. And Mr. Duceppe is laughing his backside off because he is the one who is really in charge of the stability of Canadian government while being committed to breaking up the country.
Hmmm. I just wanted to make sure I understood all of it. Welcome to our new banana republic – land of the political wing-nuts.

Dion’s speech, once it finally arrived, had me shaking my head in disgust. His English was, once again, barely comprehensible. And he was almost fevered in his presentation, babbling on like some kind of religious zealot trying to sell his holy war to the masses. He reminded me of that scene in the Blair Witch Project, where the girl’s face is filling the screen, her eyes filled with terror and desperation.

Canadian politics is both obscure and inpenetrable to my US eyes. But. I know a four sentence Take Down and Lay 'Em Out for the Butcher when I see one. Good God, Kate, that was so easily done I'd say that if the Three Penny Opera was being written today the Knife would be Kate. I may even frame this one for inspiration.

"The country is better off having an effective opposition that is not in the pockets of separatists, or petulant trade unions, than a complete meltdown and unipolar representation outside of Quebec."
~Shaken at December 4, 2008 5:12 PM

The country has effective opposition.
It's called the MSM.

It'll take 20 years of back to back Conservative majorities to reverse the social engineering and pitting of identity groups and regions against each other that was the road to power for the Trudeaupian Communists.

((((((((((:-:))))))))))))

" Mr. Harper won, but really lost the election. Mr. Layton lost, but actually won. Mr. Dion quit but is going to be Prime Minister. And Mr. Duceppe is laughing his backside off because he is the one who is really in charge of the stability of Canadian government while being committed to breaking up the country."

Good one !!

Spin your way out of that, Oliver and Newman

LisaB , Stephen Taylor has the photoshop here.

Taliban Jack is a traitor to his Tory father, his country, and his party. I wonder if the Taliban will take him.

I find it funny that some are casting aspersions of Harper as a leader. Dion has about as much backbone as a Muppet. There hasn't been a symbiotic relationship this closely since Frank Oz and Miss Piggy.

"lay back and think of the Queen"???

funny we havent heard from Scooter Brison on this.

Of course not, Scoot is the Queen.

So, Bob Rae is outraged that the House of Parliament adjourned 5 DAYS earlier than it was supposed to????????

Oh - the horror!

This guy is the puppet of PowerCorp, his brother John Rae is VP. He is the "nephew" of Maurice Strong of Oil for Food and China scandals and when Rae was Premier he even appointed Strong to be head of Ontario Power.

The backroom elites are going through withdrawls - it has been nearly three years since they could get at the trough and suck off Canadian taxpayers for money, influence, inside information....

Yes, Bob Rae. Harper IS scary - but not to normal Canadians. He is only SCARY to those who wish to use taxpayers as personal pawns.

Rae's moral indignations are so over the top that I am convinced he was the architect of this whole thing.

Anybody else with me there?

I had Rae pegged about 10 seconds after I heard about the coalition. He was putting the bug in the boy's ears during the last minority, but Steffie need to get his @ss royally kicked before he would play. As devious as Jack is, he couldn't read the constitution and understand it. With a foot in both camps and loyalty to none, Rae would have been the perfect facilitator, and all three of Les Trois Chavez' egos are big enough that all Rae had to do was quietly goad them into it. You'll notice how fast Rae disappeared when the heat came up. He only surfaced again this morning after prorogue. He was keeping his distance until the poo stopped flinging...

I live among this voting base, and am in constant daily, informal contact. Friends and neighbors. I tell you, the Liberals are going off to the Gulag of Quebec, where they can scratch out an existence with the Bloc. In my wildest dreams, I could not imagine such an intense and sudden meltdown.

Absolutely, my very same experience. I am quite shocked at the reaction of my most Liberal of neighbours. One even sent me the link to the petition against the coalition and she well knows my political leanings. Stick a fork in it, the coalition is done. Done like the turkey in 'Christmas Vacation'.

I frankly cannot believe that the 'big heads' in the Liberal Party allowed this to happen. They are either on crack or their budgetary woes are far worse than even we know.

Bill D. Cat, that is hilarious! Thanks for sharing!

"Welcome to our new banana republic – land of the political wing-nuts."

The political wingnuts label, I agree with, but its too damn cold out there for bananas. This is a crabapple republic. Or maybe a frozen turnip republic.

Oz wrote: "The country has effective opposition.
It's called the MSM."

Only when the conservatives hold power.

Yes, Piperpaul, that was the context of my assertion.

Hello Folks: I need help with a poll in Pravda today here: http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/
Thanks.

To clarify the misrepresentation and outright lies that are being advanced by Ed Broadbent and others, in regard to letter sent to the Governor General in 2004 by Harper is necessary. The letter signed by the opposition parties was presented to the GG, asking her to consult with the opposition parties, if the Martin government was defeated in the house. No representation in the letter was ever made, about any coalition to be considered, a division of Cabinet ministers or a Prime Minister in waiting proposed. And least of all, was there any representation to the GG, that Harper wanted to enter some kind of an alliance of any description with the Bloc. Simply put, the letter was only asking the GG, if she would consult with the opposition in case of Martin's defeat - that is a rather transparent statement of fact I submit, and Ed Broadbent should be able to grasp that. May the misrepresentation and lies end now, and maybe an apology be extended to the people offended - is Ed Broadbent man enough to do the right thing.

Did anybody else notice that Toyota opened up a Prius manufacturing plant in Woodstock, Ontario yesterday?

Employment up 1,200.

What was that noise from the coalition about the auto industry being in trouble?

The only ones in trouble are those saddled with non-competitive union contracts.

My family owns two Toyotas and two Acuras. I reward the Canadian branch of Honda for being innovative and even exporting the brand into the US.

Holy effing shinola:

"December 5, 2008
View / Download complete poll in PDF

Canadians Call for New Election; Harper Would Win Big Majority, Sweep Seat-Rich Ontario and Overtake Liberals in Quebec
A Canadian Business/COMPAS Poll

Canadians Call for an Election
Below are highlights from a new Canada-wide, COMPAS Research poll on the recent turmoil in the House of Commons. Permission is granted to publish or broadcast results provided COMPAS Inc. is appropriately cited.

For comments or inquiries, please contact COMPAS President Conrad Winn at (416) 598-0310 or on his direct cell at (416) 460-5844.

By a more than 2:1 margin, Canadians call for another election if the choice faced by the Governor-General were between inviting Stephane Dion to form a government and hold a fresh general election weeks after the most recent one. That is the key finding from a national representative poll completed December 4, 2008.
If an election were held today, Stephen Harper would win a large majority based on nation-wide support of 51% compared to 20% for the Liberals, 10% for the NDP, 6% for the Greens, and 8% for the Bloc. Harper would sweep seat-rich Ontario with 53% of the vote compared to 24% for the Liberals and 10% for the NDP in that province and would surpass Dion in Quebec with 32% of the vote compared to 19% for the Liberals and 35% for the Bloc.

Key factors in this lightening speed transformation of public opinion:

* 66% of Canadians oppose the Bloc Quebecois having a say in who forms the government;

* 48% have confidence in Stephen Harper as Prime Minister in the current economic climate compared to 14% for Michael Ignatieff in second place, 11% for NDP leader Jack Layton, 8% for Stephane Dion, 4% for Bob Rae, and 3% for Gilles Duceppe;

* 58% believe that the Coalition's real or main motivation was a power grab while 28% perceive the Opposition as honestly believing that Harper is a poor manager of the economy;

* 61% believe that the Liberals, following their drop in support in the October election, should not be trying to form a government. "

I think I have figured out the Liberal's plan - NEP version 3.

And here's how they are implementing it:

Step 1. Make a coalition with the Bloc.
Step 2. Dig up Pierre Trudeau, and wrap him in copper wire.
Step 3. Replace Trudeau's headstone with a giant magnet.
Step 4. Generate sufficient free energy for all of Canada from the rapid spinning motion.

From the G&M article about Dion ordering an "inquiry" about the video:

"He added: "Many people told me I was great on radio.""

Some jokes write themselves.

I believe we as conservatives have to actively start sticking up for Dion. He cannot be allowed to be pushed out - he is the Liberal leader and should be for all time. Petition anyone?

Christina Spencer of Sun Media has to keep herself shielded in utopia somehow, so she reports on this beauty of a poll:

Leger Marketing says that 78% of Liberal voters favour the coalition.

I guess knowing that should make us all run up the white flag.

"Leger Marketing says that 78% of Liberal voters favour the coalition."

Ok...so 78% of 26%?

I guess the coalitionistas will say just about anything. I just hope they stay alive long enough to force an election.

Shaken said: "The NDP never had much downside in this whole sordid affair. The only vote pool they could poach from was occupied by the Liberals, so for the NDP, this is a win, no matter what happens."

I beg to disagree. Before Layton's ill-conceived foray into subsidiary status with the Dion Liberals, I would have agreed with you. However, Layton has managed to create a situation where people indeed change their vote from NDP to Conservative.

That's my gut feeling here in BC, and seems to be validated with yesterday's results from recent pollsters. Both the NDP and Liberals dropped in support, with CPC support increasing by the sum of their drops (CPC up 6%, LPC down 2%, NDP down 4%). A lot of people, at least here, at very upset at Jack Layton for going into this cabal. They now see him as an old-style backroom sleazy politician, when they didn't before.

NDP should have differentiated themselves from Liberals, saying they were just CPC lite and he was the true alternative to Harper. Instead he got in bed with Dion and Duceppe. He compounded his stupid error he made last election of campaigning against Harper rather than he and Dion, waiting far too late to do so, and giving Dion a free ride in the debates.

So, normally I would agree with your position, Shaken. But Jack Layton, and his monumentally bad judgement, has come along and changed the political terrain.

Dion is done, and possible so is Layton. Harper, though tarnished, has gained support, and Duceppe, as usual, gets to have it both ways.

Heard on CTV an hour or so ago that Dion will resign as early as next week.
He actually resigned today, but it'll take a week to make the tape.

Clair Voyant: Leger asked the question "Do you want an election or a coalition?". Those were the only two choices. As most Liberals were smart enough to understand that they would be destroyed in an election, the only realistic option would be a coalition.

The blame for the recent fiasco may be laid directly at former PM Paul Martin's feet.

In PMPM's minority government you will recall, Jack Layton literally blackmailed Martin into adopting an NDP-style budget because Mr. Dithers couldn't govern, his Finance Minister couldn't handle his position, and Jack had them both bent over a barrel.

Jack was so energized by his coup in coopting a sitting Prime Minister that he even today believes he can do the same to PMSH.

Problem is, he can't. Not only is our Prime Minister ahead of socialist Jack intellectually, but ethically and morally as well. Jack's venom towards PMSH is evident in each TV appearance (and the arrogant lick-spittle of a socialist is always available... one would think Broadbent has managed to clone the vapid little twerp).

So let's have some compassion for poor Dion. He was dragged into this by Layton. It's his last chance to avoid being referenced in history books by an asterisk classing him a worse failure than Turner or Campbell or Clark. He grabbed for the brass ring tantalizingly offered by Layton, and wound up falling into the muck.

Duceppe is holding all the cards here, and one must wonder what Layton promised him, in light of the NDP's pie-in-the-sky promises for "the working men & women in Canada."

Poor Steffi - last week he was tied with Edward Blake as the only Liberal leader to never become Prime Minister. Now he is the only Liberal leader to never become Prime Minister twice!

I wonder if we can buy commemorative plates.

At 68 yearsof age and a small business owner (manufacturing)dealing with all of Canada for thirty years of this time I have observed many events regarding the relationship of Quebec with Canada. The enthusiam of a charisma of Trudeau becoming Canada's JFK for the Northern Baby Boomers; through Meech Lake destroyed by Frank McKenna; which allowed Clyde Wells to try and finagle a better deal; and ultimately for Filmon to weasel out of his commitment. Thereby setting up the Bloc Quebecois. Trying my best with the fundamentally flawed effort but recognizing it was still better than nothing; "Charlottetown Accord" which Joe Clark put together. The 1995 referendum which people from Ontario responded to with a rally in Montreal, when requested, Mike Harris and his son in the crowd, not on the stage. We from Ontario were not allowed to have a role, "Chretien would look after it" and almost lost the country. Through all this; plus difficult markets, terrible exchange rates; (which prevented the purchase of advanced production equipment); incredibily high tariff rates to support Quebec employment; I can go on and on. Through all this I took an active role to avoid Quebec Separation. However after this incredible situation with the Liberal "mettre en vente". The Stuation has now changed for me; "MY CANADA DOES NOT INCLUDE A QUEBEC WHICH SENDS A MAJORITY OF THEIR REPRESENTATIVES TO OUR MUTUAL NATIONAL PARLIAMENT WHO ARE SEPARISTS. I used to care about Atlantic Canada being affected with a physical separation if the obvious preference of Quebec was achieved. This is no longer possible with the support of Premier Williams in Newfoundland & Labrador and with a preference of Maritimers for the Separtist Coalition. This is not a Rant my friends; it is a statement of support for any younger and healthier person wishing to establish Ontario's Eastern border rather than it's Western Border as the demaraction line of Canada. I now recognize the people living East of the Ontario border are unwilling to understand the frustration of a long time Ontario resident who is yet to hear "what does Ontario think or want. Cheers;

Dion got himself into a beaty contest where nobody won.

That should be "beauty"

We are already in a constitutional crisis, and none of the "EXPERTS" have even figured it out yet.

If Team Treason is allowed to execute their hidden coup and take power, they will set a precedent that will prevent Canadians from ever again electing a minority government. In any election that does not produce a clear majority, the opposition parties will be able to coalesce into a "majority" coalition and usurp power from the legitimately chosen party.

Canada will be perpetually ruled by the LOSERS.

This is a fatal flaw in our political system that must be addressed. This is what the current debate should be centered on, not the totally dishonest attempts by our MSM to blame Stephen Harper for eveything that's wrong while they work overtime trying to build credibility for the Team Treason "coalition".

Is it just mass incompetence? Or is it sedition?

It's time for a total and complete flush of the political "chattering class" in this country - they are as much to blame for this mess as little Jack Lenin.

Mike Sr.:

Thank you for finally speaking up.

Patience has its limits and 40 years is a long time to wait to unshackle the chains of Trudeupia.

You have held your tongues for too long, trying not to offend the spoiled brat of Confederation.

To me, you are an honourary Western Canadian, the biggest complement I can think of giving you.

Keep up the fight, my friend. There are 49 more seats to win in Ontario for those who value individual freedom. We need all the help we can to stand up against the marxist horde.

BTW. Alberta has never had an NDP government and we are much better of for it.

Learn from the mistakes of the past and let's get on with building a better Canada, one that makes this country better for every one of its citizens, including those who are clamouring to escape their prisons in Quebec and the Maritimes.

Watching Dion and the CBC is like watching Beaker sing Feelings. Meeeee Me. lalalalalalala.

The Muppet Show - Beaker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt8Q7Fsa_Vs&feature=related

The NDP, Jack Layton and Ed Broadbent are a disgrace--not to mention my MP who happens to be a Dipper (hey, I live in Toronto) who never answered, let alone acknowledged, my e-mail of last week in which I said a definite NO to the coalition.

Did anyone catch the despicable ditty Broadbent sang, emerging from an elevator after a meeting, one supposes, with the coalition of dumb-dumbs last week? With with a leering smile on his face, he sang, "Happy Days are here again."

I could barely believe it. I guess he figured he, Bobo Rae, Jack Laydown, Gilles Duceppe(tion), and Cretin had cooked Prime Minister Stephen Harper's goose.

I don't think Broadbent's having goose for dinner tonight. Maybe humble pie.

Moron.

For comments or inquiries, please contact COMPAS President Conrad Winn at (416) 598-0310 or on his direct cell at (416) 460-5844.

Hey I just called and talked to a very friendly voice at the other end @ compas and told her I agreed 100% with the findings of their polling wrt the Coupscam coalition. She was very surprised and taken back by my call, and very grateful.

I told her someone posted their number on a blog from some backwater, SK town, that's under a boil water order, that nobody reads so she shouldn't get too many calls but mine.

Call her.

Make them talk about the internet. This is also our chance to flood the market with the blogs tingy ma jiggers and watchamacallits, Forcing them to talk about us is the only way we are going to get them to shift away from the pro-coalition mantra. I watched the CTV newsnet coverage during & since the Harper speech and they were the first to flip. Duffy and Fife deserve props for sensing the tide (a rising tide floats all boats) and getting onboard, especially Fifie, after incurring the deserved wrath of CPC supporters with the knuckle dragging remark. Apparently calling them out works. Keep doing it.

I'll never forget the early morning email I got (and still have it saved somewhere) from Ezra Levant as publisher of the Western Standard. I was one of 45,000 subscribers who was getting an advance copy of the LPC 2006 platform the night before they were going to present it. This was during ADSCAM. My first thought was they (politicians of all stripe) will never be able to get away with the stuff they have gotten away with in the past. Change was coming.

After the tension of the last few days I needed a good laugh and this thread certainly did it for me. Thanks Kate.

Thank you "set you free" I consider Western Canadian an Honour as well.

Seems to me that Layton would have been better off supporting Harper in doing away with the party funding by the taxpayer.

The NDP are second only to the Tories when it comes to fundraising and would have benefitted big time from the decimation of the Liberals and Greens, and even the Bloc.

I see Rae has stepped to the forefront .

no recent words from Backdoor Jack?

Dion must want to kick him in the cohones. they will be skidding Borat before Xmas and Mrs Dion will have to be hauling the presents back to montreal and facing 600k of personal debt on a backbench salary.

Iggie this minute, on MDL, says that Prime Minister Stephen Harper is "trying to divide the Liberal Party."

Huh? Come again, dingbat????? You've got to be kidding.

I really can't stand this guy. He's a smarmy, smug, ivory-tower, out-of-touch, leftosphere sycophant.

Why don't you go back "home" to Hahvahd? And stop blaming our fine Prime Minister for a crisis of your despicable party's own making.

Most Canadians can see through your party's thuggery and dishonesty. And please don't lecture us about "Canadian values." What would you, of all people, know about that? You chose not to live in Canada for almost 30 years.

Posted by: batb at December 5, 2008 5:16 PM

[ Trudeau said his father often worked with the founders of Quebec's independence drive in the hope of tackling common problems.

He referred specifically to the patron saint of the Parti Quebecois, with whom the prime minister frequently clashed in a Quebec referendum and constitutional battles.

"(My father) sat down and negotiated many times with Rene Levesque on issues," Trudeau told CBC.] 610 NewsTalk

http://www.610cktb.com/news/14/838834

Every time Justin Trudeau opens his mouth he simply confirms what a light-weight idiot he is.

Without the Trudeau moniker (and silver spoon) he'd probably be just an unremarkable, second-rate teacher destined to total obscurity.

Dion reminds me of the sorry sap in the old Charles Atlas comic book ads who constantly got sand kicked in his face, except Dion never learns his lesson to bulk up. I say kick him while he's down until he goes crying home.

This collapse of the coalition may be the best thing that has ever happened for both Steffi and his successor.I would not fancy my chances for a long life with commie Jack sniffing around my throne. The first prudent act would be to hire a food-taster.

This is not a Rant my friends; it is a statement of support for any younger and healthier person wishing to establish Ontario's Eastern border rather than it's Western Border as the demaraction line of Canada. I now recognize the people living East of the Ontario border are unwilling to understand the frustration of a long time Ontario resident who is yet to hear "what does Ontario think or want. Cheers;

Posted by: Mike Sr. at December 5, 2008 4:28 PM

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sadly Mike, I'm starting to feel the same way

when I used to travell a lot to quebec in the 80T's I like to pretend I was from california, that way I got better treatment for those fools, on the last day at any location I would reviel that I was from ontario, the change in treatment was....well funny if it weren't so sad

now I say boot them, even those I have some french in my heritage

Mike Sr. has a point. Canada without Quebec should stop at the Eastern Ontario border.

Ontario has a long history of Conservative government. Albeit, sometimes of the red Tory variety. 'Protestant' Toronto used to be included in this. However, as Toronto grew, due to the Montreal exodus, it attracted the leftist miscreants and the socialist immigrants.

There's more benefit in ejecting Quebec, on terms and conditions beneficial to our pocket books, than keeping it. One of the benefits is crushing the leftists, their institutions and ideology for good.

Toronto would soon smarten up.

"So let's have some compassion for poor Dion."

Not a chance. That prick should have retired gracefully, attempting to repair whatever was left of his reputation.

He chose not to.

Let him be remembered as the biggest imbecile in Canadian politics ever.

And a traitor. Benedick Dion.

Kate, I don't watch TV and haven't seen the video.

The plot thickens.

Listen to this:

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/081205/national/parliament_crisis_video

The Canadian Press

[begin quote]

Stephane Dion's grainy, amateur video address to the nation this week was the result of a series of miscues, from a broken camera to rushed, last-minute editing, insiders say.

The session was taped by one of Dion's closest aides, Mick Gzowski, son of late CBC icon Peter Gzowski. His wife is the Liberal leader's English-language trainer.

Gzowski is in charge of broadcast communications for the Liberal research bureau and recorded the address with a digital camera.

Insiders say an auto-focus button on the camera was broken, stuck in the locked position. As a result, the focus was on a bookcase behind Dion rather than on the Liberal leader himself, leaving his face slightly fuzzy.

The last sentence of the printed version of his address was omitted from the final recorded version, possibly for its ambiguity.

[end quote]

The CBC and the Liberals are a seamless garment. How ironic that the great Liberal booster is connected through the Gzowski thread to the imminent demise of Dion.

More hubris.

" His wife is the Liberal leader's English-language trainer." And that explains the audio difficulties.

with deyawn's track record, that broken camera must be everywhere

If I was one of Stephane's handlers and learned that the son of the woman who teaches him English was doing the tape,I think that maybe that would set off a red flag or two,or twenty. These idiots want to run the country?

I haven't seen the video. Is it available on this inter-webby thing?

Kate, how did you get Preston Manning to sing that?

wallyj: The woman who is Dion's English-language trainer is Mike Gzowski's WIFE. Mike Gzowski is CBC icon Peter Gzowski's son ... Enough nepotism for everyone?

(Vicious) circles within (vicious) circles. Nepotism reigns at the CBC and in the ranks of the Librano$ and there's hardly any difference between the two.

The video's on another thread (below this one), RW, the one entitled "Harper's Address to Canada." Dion looks like Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh, totally bedraggled and clueless.

To his credit, Dion has to be the first French citizen since the Middle Ages to go down with a fight.

Broadbent sure lost a whack of credibility coming out in favour of this Banana Republic pact to oust the government. Chretien was in on the consultations too but like the snake he is he slithered away, no interviews.

I'm sure I heard Fife say the Dion video looked like it was done by a wino with a cellphone.

Agree with your take on Trudeau's spawn, Justin, batb.

Watching him in QP this week, I thought he looked like a moron cheering on the monkeys at a circus, which it was. The twit has said it will be good for unity. Afraid Papa Pierre would not approve of his support of a coalition with the Separatists.

Here's some good radio, Steyn and Hewitt:
http://townhall.com/MediaPlayer/AudioPlayer.aspx?ContentGuid=55419f09-e16c-48e6-a9b2-f92b4503842f

Check out this hilarious video set to the Dion tape soundbite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5-2H21OG2k

To his credit, Dion has to be the first French citizen since the Middle Ages to go down with a fight.

Posted by: MolarMauler at December 5, 2008 10:22 PM

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he never took the training coarse "how to wave a white flag" yet, tho I thought it was natural talent, he's to nerdy for even that!!