'We're not used to being in opposition..."
Incompetence and Dion in the same sentence? Surely Fife jests?
Dion is so incompetent his own party doesn't want him as leader. Why would he be ready to become the leader of the country?
I loathe the NDP, but at least Jumpin' Jack appears competent.
Posted by: Two Cents at December 3, 2008 11:46 PMIt probably took him a few tries because he didn't understand the question being asked.
Posted by: Paul at December 3, 2008 11:48 PM"Borders on Incompetence."
'Nother Conservative Election Ad. Thanks Mr. Fife. Guess he senses the Senate appointments won't be going to CTV personalities after all.
This just in:
Craig Oliver declared a sacred burial ground by Aboriginal Groups. Sweat Lodge and Souvenir shop to be constructed outside of Oliver's studio dressing room by Heritage Canada.
Film at 11. Unless the crew is late with the tape.
Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at December 3, 2008 11:50 PMSince when did Fife grow a pair.This is payback for being manhandled by one of Dion's security guys.
Posted by: h.ryan at December 3, 2008 11:53 PMFunny.
Joe Clark has been awfully silent. I guess his foreign ambassadorship or mission to the UN is in serious trouble.
Say it ain't so Joe!
Posted by: Manitoba Moose at December 3, 2008 11:55 PMKate, perhaps a new poll is required?
Favourite Nicknames for Stephane Dion:
1. Stephane "Not Ready for Primetime" Dion
2. Stephane "Webcam Boy" Dion
3. Stephane "Tech Genius" Dion
4. Stephane "That's Not Fair!" Dion
5. Stephane "I'm Doing Dis for the People" Dion
6. Stephane "I'm Here to Save the Country" Dion
7. ???
8. ???
9. ???
10. ???
Be careful about mocking Stephane, Kate.
The MSM and the coalition, and Charest, and academics say that that will hurt Quebeckers feelings and make them sad and unwanted. And that makes the MSM a sad panda.
Oddly enough, none of the 'this is dangerous for national unity' stories are discussing the West leaving if the coalition is allowed to form a government.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 4, 2008 12:03 AM"I loathe the NDP, but at least Jumpin' Jack appears competent."
You've got to be kidding. Bob Rae is a mental giant compared to Layton. That would be the same Rae who took what should have been a short and mild recession in Ontario and drove the economy into the ground so badly that his cabinet was having serious discussions about declaring bankruptcy.
Posted by: bob c at December 4, 2008 12:03 AMFavorite Dion video: schmoozing at the Calgary Stampede
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBvScvmoGyk
Posted by: flaggman at December 4, 2008 12:05 AMJean Lapierre, broadcast journalist and former Liberal MP, mocked the party's video address.
"This was the cheapest video. I don't know if the Liberal party has financial problems, but they didn't have to go to a high school kid to get their video made," he said on CTV's Mike Duffy Live. "You ask people to forget about their normal TV show tonight. We did that on TVA. We had a million people waiting for a show call 'Le Poulet' -- 'The Chicken.' We didn't even get the egg!"
The blogsphere was quick to pounce on Dion's bumbling performance.
Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at December 4, 2008 12:07 AMIs it just dawning on Fife that Dion is incompetent, or is he, like other Separatist/Liberal/NDP whores in the media,and just disappointed with their ideological leader ? Imagine the orgy of laughter and derision from the media if Harper had looked so inept. The look on the face of that old buzzard Craig (I love Trudeau) Oliver is worth the pain and sacrifice one must make to watch CTV. Perhaps they missed the last election,and were unaware that Dion is an imbecile.
Posted by: Sean M at December 4, 2008 12:09 AM"We didn't even get the egg"
Get crackin' on that Prime Minister thang will ya, Stefan?
Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at December 4, 2008 12:09 AMThis is a better link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flv44NLI83M
Provides 50 more seconds of Dion late video derision and humour.
Posted by: Anon at December 4, 2008 12:13 AM"We didn't even get the egg!"
Dion hatches plot to take power away from Harper. Puts all his eggs in one basket. Cracks up. Video appeared over easy, and perhaps a tad runny. Perhaps Dion waiting for Golden Goose so endless supply of eggs makes life easier.
Omelette. A French word that means coalition.
CTV poaches Dion video. Dion would make an eggsellent Prime Minister.
Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at December 4, 2008 12:13 AMBreaking News:
Oliver Stone to direct new movie:
"D"
Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at December 4, 2008 12:14 AMWith all the talk of consensus and civility and all those other uniquely Canadian virtues being bandied about, nobody seems to have pointed out that this convivial band of coalitionists seem to have no hesitation in placing the G.G. in a virtually untenable position. No matter what decision she makes, it will cause a significant percentage of the population to think less of her and the institution she represents.
One more reason for members of the Bloc to be hugging themselves with glee.
Posted by: Drained Brain at December 4, 2008 12:14 AM"Do you think its easy delivering a DVD in Ottawa?"
Posted by: herringchoker at December 4, 2008 12:19 AMI wonder how the professor dealt with late assignments?
Posted by: dp at December 4, 2008 12:19 AManybody have the video clip of Layton telling Dion, "if you can't do your job as leader of the opposition, I don't know what your doing running for Prime Minister".
Posted by: Carl at December 4, 2008 12:20 AMCan we start over.
Posted by: rancher at December 4, 2008 12:25 AMStory:
Liberals Apologize for Late Delivery of Dion Video courtesy of CTV.
While I recommend reading the first few paragraphs, here is the timeline excerpted for your convenience:
> 6:15-6:30 - The Liberals miss their promised deadline to deliver Dion's statement to the television networks.
> 6:40 - Liberals arrive with a single tape at the press gallery in Ottawa. They were supposed to deliver two tapes: one in French, one in English.* They arrived with a single tape in DVD-minicam format, which is not broadcast quality.**
> Shortly after 6:40 - The Liberals decide to run back to their offices -- a block away -- because the French portion of the tape needs another edit.
> 7:05 - Liberal staffers are still in their offices as the networks go to air with the Harper address.
> 7:07 - Harper's statement finishes and network anchors are forced to kill time as they wait for Dion's address.
> 7:10 to 7:15 - Liberal staffers arrive back at the press gallery on Wellington Street with a DVD-minicam player that they had taken from their own offices, along with the associated cables. There is still only one tape, not two. A press gallery official tells the Liberals that the gallery is not the feed point and an argument ensues. The Liberals ask why they weren't told that earlier. The feed point is next door at the CBC building, which is the long-established feed play point for all network pools. The Liberals are informed that they need to be walked into the building by authorized staff.
> 7:20 - English network anchors are still live on television, wondering where the tape is. CTV has still had no communications from the Liberals about Dion's address.
> Approximately 7:15 - CBC receives the tape and begins dubbing into French and English versions.*** This takes about 10 minutes.
> 7:28 - CTV decides to go off-air and back to regular scheduled programming at 7:30. CTV has still not seen a feed of the tape.
> 7:28 - CBC incorrectly punches out the finished feed only to their network.
> 7:30 - CTV signs off broadcast at scheduled time.
* Doh! Canada is bilingual. Whodathunkit?
** Opting instead for that tried and tested military "red filter" look.
*** Because the Liberals provided only one low quality, not the two broadcast quality tapes they were asked to provide.
Do I think Canadians noticed this cock-up? I think Rick Mercer noticed.
Ouch.
P.S. Ah, the Liberal Party under Stephane Dion: A smoothly oiled machine they are no more.
P.P.S. Remember Rick Mercer saying: "The Conservative ad where they’ve taken the ugly picture of Paul Martin and turned him red so he looks like Satan is very effective. By and large, Canadians do not like the idea of being governed by Satan, no matter how well the economy is doing." Thanks, Stéphane!
I for one would like to know where Dion's hands were this whole time.
I just saw a (repeat, I guess) of CTV news, with Bob Fife reporting that Duceppe saw Dion in the elevator. The conversation:
Duceppe: "What the hell happened?"
Dion: "We're not used to being in opposition!"
Boy if only there was footage. It's the new "Do you think it's easy to make priorities!?!"
Posted by: BEG at December 4, 2008 12:32 AMHopefully they only did one take because if that is the best he could do after multiple takes, just imagine the takes left on editting room floor?
Posted by: Ryan at December 4, 2008 12:32 AMI just saw a (repeat, I guess) of CTV news, with Bob Fife reporting that Duceppe saw Dion in the elevator. The conversation:
Duceppe: "What the hell happened?"
Dion: "We're not used to being in opposition!"
Boy if only there was footage. It's the new "Do you think it's easy to make priorities!?!"
Posted by: BEG at December 4, 2008 12:32 AMDrained Brain,
I respect what you're saying but tell me something, on what grounds would [reasonable] people on the Left be complaining if the GG insists we have another election?
Cost? No, since the Coalition is already set to spend $30 Billion.
People don't want to vote again? No. Everyone, and I mean everyone I spoken with - incl. lots of people who are normally disinterested in politics - very much want to vote again.
So what then?
Posted by: Robert W. at December 4, 2008 12:33 AMHanibal - you just crack me up!
Posted by: Aizlynne at December 4, 2008 12:35 AMFind the three biggest losers in Canadian history lump them together and put them in charge of an otherwise robust and healthy economy!
A mentally ill leftard dream from hell.
“How bad can we nuke the Canadian people back into an Islamic stone age, with pot induced hippy fantasies and a one world gay fest in every classroom”?
"I loathe the NDP, but at least Jumpin' Jack appears competent."
You'd change your tune right quick if he ever managed to get his hands on any real power like that stupid little turd Glen Clark did in BC...
Posted by: Edward Teach at December 4, 2008 12:36 AMAsk your friends how much money they gave the Bloc last year.
You might be surprised at how few know about the $1.95.
Judging by their reaction, ask yourself if that might be a very powerful election issue.
What if Ignatief and/or Rae went along with Layton's coalition with the Bloc idea simply to put the noose around Dion's neck and pull the trapdoor lever by keeping the requisite number of MPs from voting on Monday? One way to undo the damage to the Liberal Party and their ambitions from Dion's long farewell.
Posted by: Richard Saunders at December 4, 2008 12:39 AMRead this in the CBC comments section and had a good laugh.
"I am fully aware that the coalition is legal, constitutional and in a bizarre way democratic but is it sensible? Most Canadians did not vote for Harper, thats true. But if you asked if most Canadians liked Strawberries they'd say yes. A large number would also say they like Captain Crunch and you would probably get a large segment that said they like goat meat. Many would even say yes to all 3 but never in a casserole together."
Posted by: Trevor at December 4, 2008 12:44 AMWe are going to miss the little twit when he's gone...
Kate, when he does go perhaps a collage of images and audio memorializing him would be in order.
We will not see his kind again for a long time. (i'm thinking of those pics of him playing street hockey right now - brings tears to my eyes...)
Posted by: Gord Tulk at December 4, 2008 12:45 AM"Hanibal - you just crack me up!"
I try to look at the sunny side of life.
Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at December 4, 2008 12:47 AMAw common, quit making yolks about Dion.
Posted by: Bernie at December 4, 2008 12:48 AMI've updated my coverage of the same with new links to Ezra Levant and Adam Rawanski:
http://pelalusa.blogspot.com/2008/12/reporter-mocking-stephane-webcam-boy.html
What will be interesting tomorrow on Canadian talk radio is if there are STILL people defending this terrible joke that has been launched on us. A joke I suppose, if it wasn't so damn serious.
P.S. Trevor, thanks for that post. Where I vehemently disagree with the commenter is that this is not at all democratic. Constitutional, yes. Legal, yes. But democratic? No way. That involves the actual AND perceived support of the people. Le Coalition de Trois has neither.
Posted by: Robert W. at December 4, 2008 12:49 AM"Aw common, quit making yolks about Dion"
We won't cook him until we see the whites of his eyes.
Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at December 4, 2008 12:49 AMT'is not far! - Borat Dion.
Posted by: Ryan at December 4, 2008 12:50 AMThere was a conference in France where a number of international engineers were taking part, including French and American. During a break, one of the French engineers came back into the room saying 'Have you heard the latest dumb stunt the United States has has done?? They have sent an aircraft carrier to Indonesia to help the tsunami victims. What do they intend to do, bomb them?'
A Boeing engineer stood up and replied quietly: 'Our carriers have three hospitals on board that can treat several hundred people; they are nuclear powered and can supply emergency electrical power to shore facilities; they have three cafeterias with the capacity to feed 3,000 people three meals a day, they can produce several thousand gallons of fresh water from sea water each day, and they carry half a dozen helicopters for use in transporting victims and injured to and from their flight deck. We have eleven such ships; how many does France have?'
ASK DION, HE'S A REALLY FRENCHMAN
I don't understand why the quality was so bad...The Video Professor is a key cog in the coalition....
Posted by: Mr Lahey at December 4, 2008 12:55 AMi know you guys are pretty much all conservatives, but just in case, if you are a liberal but against this crazy coalition idea please join my group so our mps in ottawa know what a bad idea this is.
thx.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=47629709244
Posted by: rolly at December 4, 2008 12:56 AM"P.S. Trevor, thanks for that post. Where I vehemently disagree with the commenter is that this is not at all democratic. Constitutional, yes. Legal, yes. But democratic? No way. That involves the actual AND perceived support of the people. Le Coalition de Trois has neither."
It would be democratic if they hadn't campaigned against a coalition and if the Bloc didn't hold the sword dangling over our throats, I agree there. Still a funny comment though. I'm guessing Dion is the goat meat :D
Posted by: Trevor at December 4, 2008 12:57 AMWhen Dion said "We're not used to being in opposition" what did he mean? I know he said it to Duceppe but I don't get it. Isn't he in opposition right now????
Posted by: Phil at December 4, 2008 12:58 AMi know you guys are pretty much all conservatives, but just in case, if you are a liberal but against this crazy coalition idea please join my group so our mps in ottawa know what a bad idea this is.
thx.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=47629709244
Posted by: rolly at December 4, 2008 12:58 AMCould Dion be deliberately destroying the party that has rejected him?
Posted by: fudgee-o at December 4, 2008 1:00 AMIn the context of that...clip, the excuse "We're not used to being in opposition" has serious legs." Strong, almost eternal legs.
No more need to reach back for "I'm-entitled-to-my-entitlements"-type quotes. This one will suffice for five years, at least.
"We're not used to being in opposition."
Wow. Wow.
Posted by: EBD at December 4, 2008 1:00 AM"Could Dion be deliberately destroying the party that has rejected him?"
No, that would imply that Dion is actually succeeding at something.
Posted by: Phil at December 4, 2008 1:02 AM"Could Dion be deliberately destroying the party that has rejected him"
How many parties are you giving us to choose from? This sounds like a trick question on the Canadian Census form. One wrong answer and you stand to lose millions in transfer payments.
Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at December 4, 2008 1:04 AMBernie and Hannibal, thanks for the laugh.
Posted by: bob c at December 4, 2008 1:08 AMIt's pretty clear after that bizarre performance that this coalition is going to fall on its face and collapse by Christmas. Heck, it will probably collapse by Monday. It was fun while it lasted, though.
Posted by: peter at December 4, 2008 1:08 AMOf course the Libs aren't used to being in opposition. Why if they were in power they would just use taxpayers money to make high quality video. In opposition they have to pay their own way and everyone knows no liberal ever pays his own way.
I wear a full beard but my face isn't as fuzzy as Dion's was in that late grate video.
Posted by: Joe at December 4, 2008 1:09 AMAnd he has the nerve to call the Conservatives "knuckle draggers"!
Posted by: Right of centre at December 4, 2008 1:10 AM"Bernie and Hannibal"
We've formed a coalition that's supported by a deal with Ezra on a North American wide concert tour.
Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at December 4, 2008 1:11 AMTo make it work, Jack and Jill needed someone stupid - but not this stupid !
Posted by: ron in kelowna at December 4, 2008 1:24 AMI dont think I could hand pick a stupider bunch of journalists than are on CTV. One could gather all the village idiots one knows and not come up with more out of touch losers than Oliver and Robertson Fife and the bevy of beauties LaPhelmn and Rosie the riveting. I think Sean Avery will soon be looking for work and I believe he would be a natural fit between Old Oliver and Fife.
Posted by: bartinsky at December 4, 2008 1:26 AMWho would you rather? LaPhelmn, Rosie, or Judy Wasaleis-Igiveup
Posted by: Mr Lahey at December 4, 2008 1:37 AMStephane Dion has turned in the most talked about performance in a supporting role since Yaphet Kotto swallowed the air pellet in Live and Let Die.
Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at December 4, 2008 1:39 AMHelpful video link to Yaphet Kotto
"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBncb56Z_xI"
The long term prospects of the Conservatives are hurt by the collapse of the collation this early. If the collation forces a non-confidence vote the Conservatives will likely win a strong majority in an election called right away or in a few months when the coalition falls apart. If the current minority continues the Liberals get a chance to regroup, perhaps even bring in a new leader like John Manley and restore their reputation against a weakened Harper. On the other hand stability now is better for all of Canada.
Posted by: Fritz at December 4, 2008 1:43 AMHannibal you forgot eggs benedict!!!!!
Cracking me up tonight, all the posters just zinging them out there.
"working on the heavy bag-Sheila Copps-hard" man I damn near passed out I'm tellin ya.
Posted by: Glenn at December 4, 2008 1:48 AMThese clowns can't even deliver a tape to a news organization, how in the Hell are they gonna run a country.
Man if you're gonna do a real coup d'etat, make sure you have the guns, and don't airfreight your ammunition in; after you've discovered you have no bullets.
What a complete and utter circus, Barnum and Bailey would be proud, maybe even jealous.
C'mon guys you're killing me here. I mean Cirque De Soleil has a million times more entertainment value.
I watched So You Think You Can Dance Canada tonight, and at least the product they deliver on stage is believable. Hells bells they even give out a Most Insane Dancer award occasionally when they really rip up the floor.
We should have a new show "So You Think You Can Govern Canada". At least all the callers get to VOTE!!
These guys are making this up on the back of a used napkin as they go along.
At least when Paul Martin's govt was in the sling, after a motion was passed expressing non-confidence, by an explicit vote. These guys don't even hatch the plot right.
OK so the BLOC, NDP, Liberals make a letter of intent, this is not the same as a formal vote in the House of Commons. At least vote the govt down on something. Notably, they all just voted for the Throne Speech. But then Dion got so excited about potentially being in the PMO for a whole 5 months he could hardly contain himself and would sign anything with anyone. As if PM Stephen Harper would be empty his desk on some video cam announcement that can't even get delivered on time.
Faust makes for a better plot line. Mephistopheles offers to rescue Marguerite from the hangman, but she prefers to trust her fate to God and His angels (Anges purs, anges radieux). At the end she hallucinates that Faust's hands are covered in blood, repulses him, and faints; while Mephistopheles cries out that Marguerite has been judged. As Marguerite mounts the scaffold, a chorus of angels announces that she has been saved. (Sauvee! Christ est ressuscité).
Where is the gravitas?
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
Frankenstein Battalion
2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)
Knecht Rupprecht Division
Hans Corps
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North
Fritz:
Do not be so sure about the strong majority if there is a non-confidence vote and election. I see a returned conservative minority and no end of this bullsh*t in sight. The Tories won't win one seat in Quebec, and the rest of the map won't change that much.
The Tories aren't going to come out of this looking as good as they think...
Cheers!
Leto
Posted by: [hirr]Leto at December 4, 2008 1:51 AM"Stephane Dion has turned in the most talked about performance in a supporting role since Yaphet Kotto swallowed the air pellet in Live and Let Die."
Hannibal, you crack me up! Comedy is your gift.
Posted by: Soccermom at December 4, 2008 1:54 AMI say we all go down to the Union Headquarters and kick the crap out of some socialists...
Posted by: Mr Lahey at December 4, 2008 1:59 AMIt's obvious Dion and staff waited to see what PM Harper had to say - then got rushed into a amature video job. And he wants to run this country supported by the Bloc - I can't believe this is Canada I live in any more.
Posted by: Alex in Winnipeg at December 4, 2008 2:05 AMSoccermom..what you wearing??
Posted by: Mr Lahey at December 4, 2008 2:09 AM"Could Dion be deliberately destroying the party that has rejected him?"
That's the assumption that the Twit completely unnerstanns the remifications of his dunderheaded actions.
The clueless leading the blind...er...the blind leading the clueless...er....can I 'ave a do-over?
Posted by: DanBC at December 4, 2008 2:10 AM"Could Dion be deliberately destroying the party that has rejected him?"
The mole in the liberal party has surfaced. Who'd a thunk it?
Posted by: Alienated at December 4, 2008 2:29 AMAlex in Winnipeg -It's obvious Dion and staff waited to see what PM Harper had to say - then got rushed into a amature video job. And he wants to run this country supported by the Bloc - I can't believe this is Canada I live in any more. You have said exactly what I thought too. I think that Deyawn got Boob Rhys filming crew to do the 'do do over'. Deyawn is so out of touch with reality that he probably thought it was a good job! Jack Laydown was looking very pathetic, I thought. You could hear defeat in his voice and his body language said "I'm done".
Posted by: Jema 54 at December 4, 2008 2:36 AMFor the first time in my 50 some years I truly fear for the future of my country. Somebody please tell me that, once the three "BOZOs" take over, we will still need to upgrade, by getting some out of control militias and rampaging death squads perhaps, before we're officially a banana republic. PM 'Just watch me' Trudeau's implementation of the War Measures Act was less scary than watching the BOZOs and the MSM now conspiring to ruin our democracy. Damn you Preston for side lining the western separtises - the latest Ottawa BS just proves once again that the uppers and lowers will never reform. Viva the Republic of Western Canada!
Posted by: scaredsh!tless at December 4, 2008 2:43 AMCTV posted a timeline of the Liberal SNAFU tape incident on their site at http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20081203/dion_video_081203/20081203?hub=TopStories
Here's a quote from the timeline: "A press gallery official tells the Liberals that the gallery is not the feed point and an argument ensues."
Somebody should tell the Liberals that the public trust is not their "feed point" either...and neither is the public trough, for that matter.
In the past couple of days, the Liberals have seemed shrill, strident, inflexible, out of control, and disorganized. Now, it appears they also are argumentative. Is this how they plan to solve national problems?
Posted by: Westerner at December 4, 2008 2:49 AM"CTV posted a timeline of the Liberal SNAFU tape incident on their site..."
Thanks for pointing that out.
I would never, ever have known that if you hadn't.
Posted by: Anon at December 4, 2008 3:18 AMDid CBC alter the version of the PM's speech that they have on their website to make it look more amateurish, and thus more like Dion's? Or are my eyes failing me after my bedtime? It sure looks a lot different than the version that is on youtube.
Posted by: Adam at December 4, 2008 3:26 AMPriceless commentary tonight!
Posted by: Robert W. at December 4, 2008 3:38 AM"Did CBC alter the version of the PM's speech that they have on their website to make it look more amateurish, and thus more like Dion's? Or are my eyes failing me after my bedtime? It sure looks a lot different than the version that is on youtube."
I was just asking if their techs altered Dion's speech to be less reddish.
Posted by: Anon at December 4, 2008 3:45 AMhi everyone, just wondering how all you fundamental christians feel about your beloved harper spewing lies right left and center. jeez, what a family man...
in other news, apparently you Cons are the biggest hypocrites EVER. trying to form coalitions with the "separatists" in 2000 and 2004! harper should be ashamed of himself trying to turn this into a unity issue. he is the one trying to split Canada. turning Canadians west and east against each other. anyone with half a brain should be able to see through all these lies the Cons are spreading. I can't believe you people.
rog - "anyone with half a brain should be able to see through all these lies the Cons are spreading."
Yes, it's the sort of thing a person with half a brain would think.
Posted by: ural at December 4, 2008 4:08 AM"all you fundamental christians"
I'm none of the above. But I'd rather an economist run the country when faced with the alternative.
Posted by: RunningWithScissors at December 4, 2008 4:29 AMIn Dion's closing he says "I will be working day & night" Yes ! that’s what Canadians need especially the "Night" work with the other two Orangutans. Of course night in Canada is day time in France (EU)
Posted by: Phillip G. Shaw at December 4, 2008 6:07 AMFormer GG Ed Schreyer (fmr NDP premier of Manituba has weighed in...):
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20081203/schreyer_gg_081203/20081203/
He too, needs to be told, as a former GG, to STFU...
Posted by: Skip at December 4, 2008 6:40 AMFife with another zinger this morning: "It looked like it was shot by a wino with a cell-phone."
Posted by: SDC at December 4, 2008 7:11 AMPosted by: Trevor at December 4, 2008 12:57 AM
Really? I was picturing the Bloc as the goat meat/cheese.....
Posted by: AtlanticJim at December 4, 2008 7:12 AMNot used to being in opposition? After three years they do not have the job figured out? And he wants to lead a coalition of the moronic to lead this country?
Oh, rog? Atheist conservative here. You really ought to stop being so narrow minded and bigoted. Very un-progressive of you.
Posted by: AtlanticJim at December 4, 2008 7:17 AMNow the idiots at the CBC are making jokes about it.
Colleen Jones does a very stupid piece trying to make jokes about it.
What a bunch of losers.
The media have turned (somewhat). That's a good sign.
"Webcam Boy." I like that. :)
Posted by: mark peters at December 4, 2008 7:32 AMI think this was an inside job. Sabotage from within.
It's being "investigated".
Et tu, cameraman?
Posted by: Shaken at December 4, 2008 7:55 AM"anyone with half a brain should be able to see through all these lies the Cons are spreading." -rog
Yes, we see that's your problem. A half brain.
You might want to check your sources on Day attempting to form a coalition, that is. before you are thoroughly embarrassed.
And Harper turning Canadians west and east against each other?
That'll go over well with the west, where the Liberals hardly have a seat left. And probably won't after the next election.
"I can't believe you people."
I can't call you people. Your IQ doesn't qualify.
Posted by: irwin daisy at December 4, 2008 8:01 AMWhen you look at the reporting on CBC - well lets just say that they can't wait to have the CPC outta there. But when you watch Mike Duffy - he seems genuinely pissed off at what is happening. I think he gets it.
Posted by: a different bob at December 4, 2008 8:01 AMThey found the outtakes from Dion's tape:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUCDhvbQFmU
I can't believe these clowns!
Posted by: pete at December 4, 2008 8:18 AMrog
I happen to be the only Con-servative that is perfect, the rest happen to have some human flaws, so get over it!!!
Another poll gone horribly wrong: CTV News.
Harper's address: Favorable 57% Unfavorable 43%
A real journalist would track down and get the story of the kid who borrowed his dad's miniDV camcorder to film Dion.
But instead we get incompetents jockeying for a senate seat or a gig with al-Jazeera.
I never thought i would ever see or hear this But Mansbridge(as i was fliping)Said Dion looked like it was filmed from a Cell Phone! Mansbridge said that! i kid you not.
Then back at Duffy Copps & Monk gang up on Goldy
This is the Typical liberal tactic scream,Yell point fingers Just Dont let the Conservatives say anything Until Duffy jumped In & said did i hear you right(a long those lines) Dont sit here ref:Monk & promise Canadians that they will have a Job the Next Day You dont make the Decicions of a factory laying off & Neither do you create the Job you are Fooling Canadians in that thought
Need the Whole show kate.
Flaherty Made perfect Sense in how they are working They are Not even Stopping Other the Christmas Day & Boxing Day.
And the Coalition of Stooge's say Harper & Flahrety are doing Nothing At All!
I never thought i would ever see or hear this But Mansbridge(as i was fliping)Said Dion looked like it was filmed from a Cell Phone! Mansbridge said that! i kid you not.
Then back at Duffy Copps & Monk gang up on Goldy
This is the Typical liberal tactic scream,Yell point fingers Just Dont let the Conservatives say anything Until Duffy jumped In & said did i hear you right(a long those lines) Dont sit here ref:Monk & promise Canadians that they will have a Job the Next Day You dont make the Decicions of a factory laying off & Neither do you create the Job you are Fooling Canadians in that thought
Need the Whole show kate.
Flaherty Made perfect Sense in how they are working They are Not even Stopping Other the Christmas Day & Boxing Day.
And the Coalition of Stooge's say Harper & Flahrety are doing Nothing At All!
My cable's been cutting out lately, Hannibal, it looked fine for Harper's speech but it looked scrambled for Dion's. I guess I'll phone Rogers today.
Posted by: andycanuck at December 4, 2008 8:32 AMJack get one of your buddies to make the vids. Taleban have way more competence in the propaganda film war and they are in the eighth century.
Posted by: Speedy at December 4, 2008 8:33 AMIn making her decision, the GG must place the priority of Canada above school yard shenanigans of Parliament.
As Commander in Chief of our Armed Forces, at a time when we have troops under fire in combat in Afghanistan, she must evaluate the morality of having a Separatist Party operating in de facto coalition government of the country the troops serve.
Bad move.
Posted by: Fred at December 4, 2008 8:34 AMI was pleased to hear Bob Fife dissing Dion, but can't any of these guys use proper English?
Bob, CTV was not waiting for Dion's "ADdress. (Presumably CTV already has that.)
What CTV was waiting for was Dion's "adDRESS". (It's called putting the stress on the right syllable. Harper didn't have any trouble doing that at all--not once!)
Dion and CTV: for the most part, what a goon show!
And thanks, all you SDA comics, for a lot of great laughs.
Posted by: lookout at December 4, 2008 8:45 AMHey Rog - you realize that it was the National Socialists that are spitting the west first right? Ahh, I forgot - all hail the mighty eastern machine - the have not provinces of Ontario & Quebec.
Thanks, I forgot who's ass I'm supposed to kiss.
Posted by: the bear at December 4, 2008 8:45 AMSkip re: Schreyer
"The government, periodically, has to receive the support of the House."
They did. Last week. On the throne speech - the direction the government was going to take. What more do they want?
Posted by: Andrew at December 4, 2008 8:47 AMOne thing that our political and media culture excels at is denying reality.
All this talk about how horrible it is that the Liberals and NDP would welcome the "bloc", the "separatists’" as part of a coalition is nonsense when examined beyond the end of ones nose!
As contrary as this may sound The Bloc has not existed all these years in order to advance a sovereign Quebec.
It was created as a reaction to the Reform party and its purpose has been to extract as much cash as possible from Canada using the “threat”, to achieve that end. It has worked well, with the so called deep thinkers of the rest of the cast, going along with the scam, advancing and keeping this myth alive.
In committee the Bloc has supported the liberals and NDP 90% of the time. They are the Quebec wing of the liberal and NDP parties and it has taken a minority “conservative” party with a western base to finally expose and shine a light for the public, as to this fact. That’s the reality!
The unprecedented longevity of the Harper minority government has resulted in the players of this charade becoming very uncomfortable. I have said in the past that Harper should have taken us to the polls in a historical time frame. Twelve to fifteen months. I warned that events would overtake him. That’s what the Liberals would have done. In stead, as he has stated, “he liked being prime minister”! His caucus was enjoying the perks of power and they ceased being politically smart.
Also Quebec separatists were part of the Mulroney coalition so to whine about them taking part in this coalition is wasting energy and intellectually dishonest.
Rather they should concentrate on exposing all this for what it really is, a power grab motivated by an elitist political cast driven by eastern bigotry!
Remember what Chretien said about dealing with westerners. Was it not Justin’s dad who as PM gave us the finger?
Posted by: ivinconned at December 4, 2008 8:52 AMLorie Goldstein remembers Steffi wrote a book:
" Back when he used to warn about the dangers of appeasing separatists.
(1) Dion, April 4, 1997: "We are a federation threatened with break-up, and faced with a separatist ideology which promotes suspicion, divisions and envy between citizens. When one group of MPs arrives in Ottawa with the sole mandate of promoting the interests of their own region, this encourages other regions to elect MPs who in turn promote only their interests, and we lose any sense of a national opposition committed to the good of Canada as a whole.''
(2) Dion, Dec. 10, 1998: "Let me sum up this separatist-style politics of booty ... It consists of demanding something from the federal government; more power, more money. If the federal government says no, then you return to Quebecers and you tell them: You see how unyielding and unfair this federation is to you, we've got to get out! If the federal government says yes, the message to Quebecers becomes: You see the bargaining power you get by electing separatists, so imagine the power you'd have if you voted 'Yes' in a referendum ... So how does one thwart this logic of booty? Quite simply, by refusing to play the game. By stating very clearly that one has no intention of giving in to this kind of blackmail ... We won't improve this social union by trying to accommodate the separatists or those who might be tempted to vote for them."
(3) Dion, March 2, 1996: "In the past, as much as Liberals may have disagreed with the Conservatives and the NDP, at least we knew that we shared a common belief in Canada. Today, with the regionalist parties (like the Bloc) this is not the case. We need many leaders, not just Liberals, who will stand up again for our common Canadian values."
(4) Dion, Nov. 26, 1996: "There is a great contrast between the tolerance of Quebec society and the intolerance of the secessionist option ... That is why Quebec secession is a project which favours exclusion, and would breed intolerance and division among communities that are now living in harmony."
These are all Dion's own words, from his 1999 book, published by McGill-Queen's University Press.
http://tinyurl.com/5urvwq
Posted by: Fred at December 4, 2008 8:55 AMPoor old Borat probably had several do-overs to arrive at a comprehensible English version.
Posted by: JMD at December 4, 2008 8:58 AMDo we send Cherniak a Video Professor subscription for Christmas?
Posted by: oatmealeatincanuck at December 4, 2008 9:04 AMPhantom analysis:
Mr. Dion made the media look like buffoons on live TV last night, making them wait and have to fill time, then finally go off their air without the promised footage.
They hate that.
Furthermore, when the tape finally shows up, its an out of focus p.o.s. shot with a mini-DV camera. With a book called "Hot Air" prominently visible over Dion's shoulder no less.
Over the last few years, people who visit SDA and like minded blogs have noticed the MSM are not the sharpest knives in the drawer. Two billion on a gun registry, Adscam, CHRC section 13, crashing 40 year old helicopters, sending guys to the desert in forest green uniforms, all these things don't impinge on the brainwaves of the MSM. They don't appreciate the stunning incompetence on display.
But send them a crappy video? Late? That's different. NOW you're incompetent in -their- area of expertise, this they comprehend!
Phantom prediction: The Liardipperbloc Coalition is about to discover what its like to operate in Conservative territory, where the MSM reports every time you belch or pick your nose.
No more do-overs for Stephanie.
Posted by: The Phantom at December 4, 2008 9:16 AMNew funding opportunity for the Liberals. Send tape to America's Funniest Home Videos and win $10,000.
Posted by: Fritz at December 4, 2008 9:17 AMEveryone should stop picking on the honourable Stephane Dion. He has a hearing/comprehension problem. With everyone talking about a putsch he got confused and thought they meant PUTZ!
Posted by: Joe at December 4, 2008 9:26 AMDion is pathetic. Layton is in need of anger management and Duceppe and the Bloc should be run out of The House. What is really bugging me now, however, is this talk of coalitions being normal everywhere else in the world. Perhaps so, but that doesn't make them good or effective. It makes for expensive government and higher taxes to pay off all the special interests involved in propping a coalition up. It means elections every couple of years or more. Never having a majority government is not a good thing. Unless you're Elizabeth May or Gilles Duceppe.
Posted by: ducktrapper at December 4, 2008 9:27 AMWorld coalition governments.the MSM never names them.
Italy.
Isreal.
Idiots.
that would be us.
the words stable and coalition are always used in the announcement but never in the demise or the description of the country.
Posted by: cal2 at December 4, 2008 9:35 AMIvinconned: "As contrary as this may sound The Bloc has not existed all these years in order to advance a sovereign Quebec. It was created as a reaction to the Reform party ..."
I don't know where you heard this. The Bloc was formed when the Meech Lake Accord collapsed and was given extra momentum when Jean Chretien was elected leader of the Liberals. Chretien was a strong opponent of the Accord, as was his old mentor Pierre Trudeau. The Reform party had no seats in the House of Commons at the time the Bloc was formed.
The Reform Party/ Alliance/ Conservatives share no blame in the creation of the Bloc.
Posted by: MJ at December 4, 2008 9:42 AMAs much as I like Harper, and I do, his defeat by the three stooges will in my opinion be a turning point in the advancement of Western Canada as a separate Nation. Would you trust someone that's french and an x separatist, the GG, to make a call for the good of Canada? This may well be the turning point in Canadian history with the West arming itself with more that just oil, money and rhetoric.
Posted by: Western Canadian at December 4, 2008 9:48 AMWhy could'nt Dion deliver the Tape on time?
Take 1,2,3,4,5,6,........
Fife I agree with you for once IF YOU CANT GET THIS RIGHT HOW DO YOU EXPECT TO RULE THE COUNTRY?
**Jack & Gilles "went Up the Hill to Fetch a Pail
of Money"
ducktrapper, I agree. Perhaps those touting the "normal" coalitions elsewhere in the world should be asked which of those countries have a "normal" coalition government which excludes a major party holding nearly twice the seats of the largest party in the coalition?
In other words which country allows a coalition of only the losers to govern?
Posted by: glasnost at December 4, 2008 9:48 AMWhat is with these P.O.S. moonbats and their bigotry towards conservatives.
I AM AN ATHEIST, PERIOD, END OF STORY.
Just once, could all of you leftarded morons just accept the fact that some of us here are fiscal conservatives. You know, we just want small government, and your hands out of our pockets.
Posted by: kingstonlad at December 4, 2008 9:52 AMSee the treasonous scum Western "not" Canadian is still around eh?
The border is to your south. Make use of it.
Posted by: AtlanticJim at December 4, 2008 9:54 AMCal2,
Re the coalition gov't of the world:
Italy - a joke (except for the cool cars and the really hot women)- nobody has looked to Italy and said yeah we'll do it like them since the days of the Roman Empier.
Israel - they're in a constant state of war (since they're surrounded by enemies).
favill
Posted by: favill at December 4, 2008 9:57 AMIf these guys want this to work "legally", the Bloc should be part of the coalition. That would be political suicide for the Libs but a true coalition should include parties with enough seats in combination to outnumber the other parties who are not part of it. This is just nonsense led by a twit.
Posted by: ducktrapper at December 4, 2008 9:57 AM"Could Dion be deliberately destroying the party that has rejected him?"
Apologies for reviving an old comment.
Perhaps the good professor has gone "Carrie" by Stephen King. A nerdy misfit that has almost had his wildest dreams come true. The Liberal leader, PM of Canada and just as he reaches for the crown.... down comes the bucket of blood ruining his party. His moment of glory turned into a cruel joke. Now he seeks revenge on all those who have humiliated him - his own party, the media, the people of Canada. heh
Posted by: lynnh at December 4, 2008 10:08 AMducktrapper, again I agree with you, and I take it from constitutional expert,Ted McWhinney's comments that a requirement to form a coalition government would be that the parties would actually need to be explicitly named. In other words the deal should not be called "Liberal-NDP--with-some-kind-of-help-from-the-Bloc-Coalition".
Posted by: glasnost at December 4, 2008 10:47 AMA friend of mine penned this. I think it is very concise.
Constitutional Legitimacy vs. Democratic Legitimacy
This afternoon I heard a U. of T. Law Professor talking about the decisions the Governor General can possibly make. He kept on repeatedly using the words "Constitutional Legitimacy". I fully understand their meaning but surely there is another type of "legitimacy" that deserves equal, if not more, consideration?
Since I'm an engineer and a numbers guy, let me provide her with some quick notes:
Math Primer for the Governor General
Choice #1: Give control to Le Coalition
Constitutional Legitimacy = 100%
Democratic Legitimacy: 0%
Choice #2: Force another election to be held
Constitutional Legitimacy = 100%
Democratic Legitimacy: 100%
I ask once again: What legitimate objection can anyone provide arguing against Choice #2?
Robert Werner
Off the record many people claim this all started with Harper's musing about eliminating the $1.95 political subsidy. Liberals admitted that the opposition parties need the money because of their financial difficulties.
The opposition officially claims the crisis is because the government hasn't come forward with a bailout for the automotive industry and others.
To paraphrase:
The three parties that can not financially manage their own organizations, would like to form government so they can send your money to companies that can not financially manage their own organizations; because, the party that can financially manage their organization is not qualified to to handle the finances of the country.
rog
Many people contemplate things. That is not the same as doing that thing. Do you concur?
Posted by: Indiana Homez at December 4, 2008 12:33 PM"...all you fundamental christians..."
---rog,
I am an atheist but a conservative.
And there are many of us out there.
Stop believing the liberal main stream media and open your mind a little.
Posted by: Friend of USA at December 4, 2008 1:37 PMMr Dion, you're not in university anymore, the real world doesn't give 'extensions' to assignments!!!
Posted by: Lori at December 4, 2008 5:44 PMHey guys: I still haven't seen the vidio.
When you knit a garment, you carefully count your stitches and follow a pattern.
When the seats of our Govt. are counted, we have 143 Conservatives, 79 Liberals and 43 NDP Members of Parliament.
Now envision these elements knitted in complimentary colours.
Now we have left in the Govt. mix, 49 Bloq Quebecois MP's.
Let us imagine them as the way the finished garment will button at the front, because the powers granted to them in this coalition instill the way in which the garment will button up, and which colour will dominate the garment.