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December 3, 2008

Time for a trip to the woodshed

One of my colleagues at The Torch received a passionate and heartfelt expression of opinion about this whole parliamentary mess in his e-mail yesterday. With the author's permission, we've posted it in its entirety:

Regretfully, I am too old now to serve Canada in any political capacity. However, I did serve faithfully for 38 years in the RCN and the Canadian Armed Forces - including in NDHQ, as a Rear Admiral and Vice Admiral, where I had the honour to serve both under Liberal and Conservative Ministers of National Defence. In every instance they received my complete respect and loyalty regardless of Party.

My father also served in Canada's Navy for 37 years from 1909 to 1946. He commanded several RCN ships and both coasts, and was ultimately the Commanding Officer Pacific Coast during the last three years of World War II.

His father was Speaker of the House of Commons, during the Laurier Government, then was Minister of Inland Revenue, then Minister of Marine and Fisheries (in which capacity he became the founding Minister of the Royal Canadian Navy), then served as Justice of the Supreme Court of Canada, and ultimately died in office as Lieutenant Governor of Quebec. He devoted his entire life to Canada.

On behalf of three generations who have devoted their lives to Canada, I unequivocally condemn the power grabbing political charade now taking place in Parliament.

We are witnessing a deplorable and juvenile scene which demeans its participants, and also further erodes the residual prestige of a Canada which in both World Wars achieved greatness and international respect...

The author doesn't stop there, either.

Personally, the lines from a recent article in Legion Magazine, in which the writer is sitting around a Police Sub-Station in the middle of nowhere in Kandahar province with a bunch of Canadian soldiers, keep running through my mind:

They talk about other things too. They talk about watching Canadian Parliament on television and laugh how the politicians behave, about how they boo each other. “Grow the f—k up, you’re running the country,” laughed one soldier.

Good Canadian men and women put their lives on the line for this country every single day. Is this the political leadership they deserve?

Enough of the partisan games. Enough. We need a government, not a bunch of children wrestling over their favourite toy.

Posted by Damian at December 3, 2008 11:02 AM
Comments

What we need is an electorate that stays on message and requires our Parliamentarians to complete the mission we gave them six short weeks ago. Distraction by every rogue wind and media-manufactured tempest in a teapot (e.g., Cadmangate, or the current "constitutional crisis") is the Communist parties' best weapon. Constitutional crisis? IT'S A MINORITY GOVERNMENT! WTF did you expect to happen?

Posted by: Charles MacDonald at December 3, 2008 11:25 AM

I've had a hunch about this mess. I believe Harper anticipated this reaction from the teat-suckers.

Now when the dust settles, who will come out looking like a statesman and leader for having solved the whole fiasco? Any one of the three stooges?

The result will be that more of the populace will rally behind Harper and even fewer will be found among the supporters of the power hungry street urchins in the Libs and other crypto-commie corrupt gang of thieves.

Posted by: Doug at December 3, 2008 11:33 AM

Yes it's a minority Government. What we expected to happen was "good government". You know like people often espouse that we get from minority governments. What we didn't expect was some half backed excuse for a power grab saying" well they do coalitions in Europe." Sure they do, with the party that receives the most votes at the helm, in our case that would be the Conservatives. See, even there the coalitions are really perpetualy minority governments.
Coalitions are not the bottom feeders ganging up and overtaking the rightful government.

Posted by: Netty at December 3, 2008 11:37 AM

beautiful letter

Posted by: Sammy at December 3, 2008 11:38 AM

If I were a Liberal, I'd be very concerned over what this fiasco is doing to my party. The biggest mistake the Liberals made was leaving Dion in charge after the election. He's got nothing to lose by being tagged as a Friend Of The Separatists, since he'll be gone in a few months no matter what.

Whoever takes the helm after him will have to spend months if not years removing that label from the Liberals. The Tories are going to be spending big bucks over the next few weeks making sure that label sticks. And they have the money, whereas the Liberals do not.

In years past, the Liberals used to be able to count on compliant Quebecers to grant them sufficient seats to form a government. That's no longer the case. If they want to form a government now, they have to reach out to Western Canadians. As of Monday, they blew that chance monumentally.

Stephen Harper may not have crippled the Liberals financially, but he may well have crippled them politically, which was the plan all along.

Posted by: Dennis at December 3, 2008 11:40 AM

Just so. While the P.M. is not blameless in this "pulling each other's pants down" affair, the disloyal opposition are nothing but clowns.

Posted by: ducktrapper at December 3, 2008 11:40 AM

Netty, welcome to the real world.

Posted by: Charles MacDonald at December 3, 2008 11:41 AM

Funny how the left wing-nuts are bemoaning the $300 million another election would cost, but see nothing wrong with squandering 30$ billion.
_30$_Billion_ to their cronies and special interest teat suckers.
(and if you believe that 30$ billion is all that will get squandered, think gun registry, adscam and on and on)
This is about getting the Libranos, Dippers and Blocheads getting their hands on our tax dollars. Lots and lots of our tax dollars for them and theirs, and nothing more.

Posted by: lyle bert at December 3, 2008 11:42 AM

If I were a Liberal, having now been put in a position of helping the separatist cause, I would be concerned about being labelled a traitor.

Posted by: potato at December 3, 2008 11:48 AM

PM Harper to address nation tonight at 7pm. A picture of former GG General George Vanier in the background might be a nice touch.

Posted by: Sgt Lejaune at December 3, 2008 11:50 AM

Gerard Kennedy was just on CTV with Mike Duffy and accused the PM of possibly imposing the War Measures Act to stay in power!!!! Only from a Liberal, as they as the only ones to use the military against the CDN poulace.
This is hyperbole beyond the pale. What an unbelievable mess the Libs have made. All preplanned I am sure. Sedition should be used to describe this.

Posted by: jckirlan at December 3, 2008 11:57 AM

Can anyone explain what the Conservatives have done why some hate them so much - especially the PM?
They have bills in the senate not passed re stiffer penalties for hard criminals (liberal majority there), now they propose to cut funding that the parties should earn instead of take from us for their elections. Is it that the Unions are upset that they may have a few rules instead of staying on crucial jobs when they strike? I just don't get what this government has done to be so hated. Whatever I see them doing I totally agree that it is required. Remember people - all the scandals, money laundering etc. is that what they want again.

Posted by: Jane at December 3, 2008 11:58 AM

Jane - Mr. Harper has run afoul of "The Natural Governing Party" and its media mouthpieces. Par for the course.

Posted by: ducktrapper at December 3, 2008 12:48 PM

Purely hypothetical:

Just as an aside, what would be the election results be if, say Parliament is prorogued, and the government falls later in January or so?

If the coalition fell apart during that period, or had DEEP cracks, voters would probably not be quite as angry. No Consrvative Majority?

Hm-m-m-m... interesting!

Posted by: eastern paul at December 3, 2008 1:13 PM

I've been following this like the rest of you and am sick at the actions of the opposition. I'm not a constitutional expert but did take history in high school when it was obligatory and it was taught as a relevant topic. If you have a minute read this;
http://coureurdeblogs.blogspot.com/
I'd appreciate comments.

My heart is with the author and with our forces where ever they are stationed. I especially think of the 'kids' that died at Dieppe. They sacrificed, so that this pack of jackals can usurp power. No if we don't man the ramparts now and fight with everything we've got then this group of miscreants will squander this great country that was gifted to them without any personal sacrifice on their part, and we conservatives will be partly to blame because we couldn't or wouldn't fight back to the best of our ability. These people have no respect and have shown that they will stoop lower that a snakes belly to keep their snout in the trough. The unions and the public employees that support this coalition are no better than the vultures that feed off the carrion when the jackals are finished. If this is what the country will evolved to then it is time to abandon ship and Balkanize the larger part of North America.

Posted by: Antenor at December 3, 2008 1:13 PM

The letter applies to those that have sworn the Oath of Allegiance to Her Majesty.

England expects every man will do his duty is all I need to be told.

Posted by: wingwalker at December 3, 2008 1:15 PM

Jane - Mr. Harper has run afoul of "The Natural Governing Party" and its media mouthpieces. Par for the course.

Posted by: ducktrapper at December 3, 2008 1:15 PM

The Separatist Coalition going to Hell in handcart in very short order. Now apparently endorsed by Jacques Parizeau.
Next they will be exhuming Rene Levesque
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?CANADIAN&1

Over 126698 signatures so far and counting.

And seeing that we are now in Advent we would like to send this undemocratic coalition to HELL:

In the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

My Canada, includes Quebec so I won't have to take out a passport to visit my birthplace Lachine (new China).

But given the Kyoto Klutzes wanted to hand over Canada to Uncle Mo Strong via China, maybe the proposed putsch should get a very undignified condemNation in any case.

If the "Duceptionists" want to "Layton" down with this "Dionky" maybe they should ride it all the way to the Holy Land.

Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, and Eid-Al Adha! Hence sacrificing your country doesn't seem to be on the holiday agenda.

And Dec. 6th is the rally for Canada day, coincidentally St. Nicolaas feast day.


Cheers


Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

Frankenstein Battalion
2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)
Knecht Rupprecht Division
Hans Corps
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at December 3, 2008 1:18 PM

Bourque reporting Taliban Jack as incoming deputy PM.

Dion has jumped the shark.

Posted by: Bart F. at December 3, 2008 1:18 PM

This is a well written letter and right to the point.

Indiana Homez please note the authour refers to our politicians as children. That's means all politicians, PMSH included. Harper is the architect bully insitgator of this debacle and as a consequence he deserves a trip to the woodshed as well!

Posted by: not stirred at December 3, 2008 1:24 PM

The three Orangutans in a circle jerk!

CSPAN had Canadian Parliament on Sunday; the Animal house behavior is scary to serious Investors. The "Rule of Law" mantra becomes fuzzy when uncivilized behavior is tolerated

Posted by: Phillip G. Shaw at December 3, 2008 1:26 PM

If Mr Harper gets a majority he should:

1) make it illegal for Federal Gov't workers have a union;

2) privatize the CBC and change the call sign (so it's not considered to be Canada's mouthpiece);

3) ram a bill through stating all MPs and federal workers swear allegiance to Canada (and then make them sign the thing);

4) put an amendment into the Constitution that guarantees the rights of the owner and his/her private property (any province that doesn't sign on--their citizens don't get the rights); and

5) put in the preamble something about the responsibilities of the citizen (don't spell it out so that it's open-ended).

~~favill~~

Posted by: favill at December 3, 2008 1:38 PM

not stirred - could you explain how Harper is the bully in this? Thanks.

It is obvious that he knew about Layton-Dion-Duceppe's plan, which was to wait for a financial Motion, presumably the budget, and then, take down the government and immediately assume power.

Harper called their game, by not waiting for the budget, but by presenting a fiscal update geared only to financial restrain within the govt. This included asking the civil service to accept wage increases on an equal par with that of the private sector (1.5%).the civil service normally demands three times as much. And, he asked the political parties, including his own, to do what they do in all other countries, which is to fund raise from the private sector, the people, rather than relying on govt funding.

After all, the Bloc, dedicated to separating from Canada, accepts over 80% of its funding from those same Canadian taxpayers. The Liberals rely heavily on the taxpayer as well. Only the Conservatives do most of their fundraising (about 70%) in the private sector. So, this is hardly an unreasonable request.

But, the Opposition went ballistic; they are, they feel, entitled to their entitlements. And, fell into the trap, I suggest, which was to move out their coalition plans now, rather than over the budget.

And, they've been made to look like greedy usurpers of power. Obtaining power via bribes; with taxpayer money. One billion - that's one billion - and more to the Bloc. Going back to the old equalization format which gives the most to Quebec. Senate seats to the Bloc. Handing out cabinet posts to the NDP. More and more bribes.

And all- without even a nod, an acknowledgment of the rights of Canadians to approve or disapprove of this plan. Indeed, they don't want to go to the public. No way.

So, they've set up the Bloc, a party out of voting reach of over 80% of Canadians, as the power broker. The Bloc maintains the coalition, and it has agreed, in return for money and power, to not vote against this coalition.

Now, please tell me how Harper was/is a bully within this scenario? They have obviously been planning this, made their deals - and planned to foist it on an unsuspecting House and nation, only on budget day. Harper forestalled them and made them bring it out to the public.

Posted by: ET at December 3, 2008 1:44 PM

Chretien just about passed out back when the separatists almost won. Now he is one of the consultants along with Broadbent on joining up with the Bloc Parizeau now bragging up Dion on raising the profile of the separatists --- where does he stand????Dona J

Posted by: Dona J at December 3, 2008 2:03 PM

A friend of mine on Vancouver Island has created an AMAZING video, but currently he only has it on Facebook. I hope you can view this:

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=36494009678

I'm getting him to upload it to YouTube asap!!!

Posted by: Robert W. at December 3, 2008 2:05 PM

I love all those bemoaning how mean Harper is. Last time I checked, he wasn't busy strangling citizens that he disagreed with.

Hmmm ... funny how the Libs don't bring up that wonderful embarrassment from their previous leader.

What say you Libs?

Posted by: Aizlynne at December 3, 2008 2:18 PM

Not Stirred: "Harper is the architect bully insitgator of this debacle and...".
Why did Harper call the snap election in October? Did he see the obvious, that a coalition was more than a possibility. Why were the MSM asking Dion and Layton if a coalition was in the works? Did they smell a rat as well?
I know the MSM is spinning this as Harpers doing but that assertion doesn't hold water. If so, why did the three not drop the idea when Harper backed off?

Posted by: Gunney99 at December 3, 2008 2:43 PM

Rohroh!

"Bloc part of secret coalition plot in 2000 with Canadian Alliance"

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081203.wquebec1203/BNStory/National/home

Spin my friends! Spin like you've never spun before!

Posted by: John at December 3, 2008 3:20 PM

Thank you 'ET', a very good analyze as always. PMSH does actually work for the people of Canada. True I do not agree with all his policies but he is best out of bunch. If the people want somebody from the East to lead the Conservatives, wait for the leadership review. I am kind of wondering about the '3 stooges' and their leadership, for the first time in 45 years Canada can be number 1 in the world in a very tough economic time. You have 3 'wannabe' leaders trying to sink us.

Posted by: Merle Underwood at December 3, 2008 3:50 PM

Ducktrapper said: "Jane - Mr. Harper has run afoul of "The Natural Governing Party" and its media mouthpieces. Par for the course."

A CBC report who is part of the PPG called Lynn Johnson just said the same thing on CBC radio. That is, the PPG hates Harper because of "a list". I guess that means becausehe doesn't give them free unfertered access to twist his words.

Posted by: jckirlan at December 3, 2008 3:57 PM

John:

I must have missed the signing ceremony.

Can anybody who saw it please help me out?

Posted by: set you free at December 3, 2008 3:59 PM

Re:"Bloc part of secret coalition plot in 2000 with Canadian Alliance"

Conservatives caught lying...AGAIN!

Posted by: lberia at December 3, 2008 4:02 PM

Re:"Bloc part of secret coalition plot in 2000 with Canadian Alliance"

Conservatives caught lying...AGAIN!
~lberia

From the article:
>"In an interview, Mr. Chipeur played down the importance of the offer, saying he never discussed the matter with Mr. Day or other MPs, and was simply getting ready in the event of a minority government.

“I was preparing for what might happen,” Mr. Chipeur said. -end quote

So one lawyer, who happened to know Stockwell Day, took his own initiative to create a theoretical scenario. The scenario was neither designed at the request of any Canadian Alliance MP nor acted upon.

This is supposed to make the CA and it's members morally equivalent to the plotters of today?

Posted by: Oz at December 3, 2008 4:16 PM

So, I (am a devote fan of a serial rapist and mass murderer) Beria and another leftard think they have the smoking gun, huh?

From the Globe article, in question:

"In an interview, Mr. Chipeur played down the importance of the offer, saying he never discussed the matter with Mr. Day or other MPs, and was simply getting ready in the event of a minority government.

“I was preparing for what might happen,” Mr. Chipeur said."

Idiot freaks and pathological liars. But then, what do you expect from bottom feeders?

Posted by: irwin daisy at December 3, 2008 4:24 PM

ET, you said it much more eloquently, but that is obviously the case in this scenario. It's what I suspected too.

Posted by: Doug at December 3, 2008 4:29 PM

Stephane's letter to the GG: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/v5/content/pdf/GGletter.pdf

Not ONE mention of the people of Canada.

Pathetic!!!

Posted by: Robert W. at December 3, 2008 4:38 PM

"A picture of former GG General George Vanier in the background might be a nice touch."

...and a reminder that there was a time when this country's GG's were selected on the basis of their earlier distinguished service to their country, rather than on the basis of their being partisan MSM hacks.

Posted by: felis corpulentis at December 3, 2008 4:45 PM

Having decided that the Detroit Redwings technically won the 2008 Stanley Cup, the Pittsburgh Penguins, Philadelphia Flyers and Dallas Stars have formed a coalition demanding a three way ownership of the league title. Rational for their decision revolves around their total combined scoring in the 2008 Semi-Finals, their total share of season ticket holders versus the Detroit Redwings and their horror at discovering the Detroit Redwings are using a more cost effective and efficient but non-union made Silver polish to keep the Stanley Cup gleaming.

The three teams are being assisted in their bid to overturn the traditional results by members of the Quebec Hockey League who have no real interest in the success of the NHL in general but sense an opportunity to demand Zambonis and other critical equipment be manufactured in Quebec. Player representatives, Team Owners and Nike are expected to submit their proposals to Don Cherry in the next few days. Fans and ticket holders are neither being asked or allowed a voice in the final decision.

Posted by: Bart F. at December 3, 2008 4:48 PM

ROFLMAO!

Posted by: Doug at December 3, 2008 5:12 PM

In support of RallyForCanada.ca, here's a poster I've created.

Posted by: Robert W. at December 3, 2008 5:41 PM

not stirred

I'm not sure how I got dragged into this, but here is my take:

PMSH hasn't done anything except provide a fiscal update. The fact that the opposition doesn't approve doesn't make Harper a bully. In the name of cooperative gov't Harper removed the welfare reform from the statement. That is what I call appeasement, not bullying.

The opposition are presuming that the only solution to the "crisis" is a GWB style bailout. So be it! They are entitled to their opinion, and have the power to vote down the gov't. I have not stated that the opposition are traitors or any other ad hominem attacks. My position is simply that the opposition is dishonest because they could have run on this platform during the election. In the event all goes according to plan for the opposition I will not call foul; but, I think the electorate will have something to say to the coalition in the next election (if we still have elections).

I don't know what PMSH will do but I do think that the opposition doesn't want an election because they think Harper will come out of it with a majority. This is my opinion and I agree that I may be wrong about the oppositions motives. I concede that the opposition is very concerned about the 300 million an election will cost, regardless of the fact they feel they would win the election under these circumstances. How frugal of them!

Posted by: Indiana Homez at December 3, 2008 5:50 PM

I have not actually heard Broadbent speak out on this. I am very surprised that he would be a party to this nonsense.

Posted by: LindaL at December 3, 2008 6:32 PM

I agree that soldiers who put their lives on theline every day for this country don't deserve this type of "government".

At this time of historic global financial crisis, for their Prime Minister to put forth a budget which provides no aid or stimulus to his citizens is an act of stunning negligence.

To further insult his citizens by indulging in divisive, petty partisan bullying - with his cutting of public financing for campaigns - at a time of genuine crisis for the country, added on to the earlier insult, constitutes a nearly treasonous negligence.

The soldiers who have risked their lives for this country deserve better.

Posted by: real at December 3, 2008 7:40 PM

Wise words from the Admiral. There was a time, long ago I'm afraid that even liberals were people with respect an honour.That, sadly came to a halt with the arrogant Turdeaumania era and the spawn of that attitude has never looked back. The Conservitives have also became a differnt party under Clarke and Mulrooney to the point of being wiped off the political map, save for two finger holds. The Conservative Party of Canada may have it's roots in the grassroots Reform, then Aliance but it is entirely different than the PCs were.

Sadly, only in Canada can a party sworn to divide the Dominion of Canada be in the house of Commons, being paid and pensioned by the Canadian taxpayer and is now posturing to have the other opposition parties make him king over any and all legislation. Incredable. That's what you get for dealing with terrorists by saying fuddle duddle don't do that again.

Posted by: Texas Canuck at December 3, 2008 9:08 PM

Do you know what I'd like to see?

I'd like to see the Liberals of good faith, if there is such a thing, who have built their lives around Liberal party politics and presented it as wholesome and Canadian, to step back from the abyss and say, "Look Stephanie, you ain't our leader, you can ink anything you want, but we're not part of it."

Posted by: Oz at December 3, 2008 9:14 PM
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