This is not nearly as relaxing as your previous offerings. But thank you anyway.

This is neat. Over at CTV.ca poll (11:20 PM ET), when asked who they preferred to govern the country, 63% responded Conservative, with 37% to the "Coalition."

Hmm, skewed poll, it's the reverse of "what Canadians voted for."

Fellow Canadians, if you are fine with Stephane Dion as PM, then well fine. If this bothers you, then consider getting off your ass and letting the media know (opposition parties have already demonstrated what you think isn't important, they know already) in a public way by attending upcoming rallies in your area, by politely conversing about it with your community.

As a nation, we're walking right into this thing. Lots of people told me today that they were sure Dion wouldn't get this through. My heart hopes they're right, but my head says otherwise.

How will you feel if after this calamity happens, when you didn't take a half hour of one of your days to voice your displeasure at this anti-election gambit.

The fact that you weren't allowed a vote in it will not be the only silencing you endure, the worst blame will be at your door.

This is serious. It can happen. If you didn't vote for that, then say so. Loudly.

CTV/Angus Reid poll.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20081202/poll_future_081202/20081202?hub=TopStories

"Slightly more than a third of Canadians said they would support a coalition government formed by the opposition"

Isn't that less than the 3 opposition parties combined got in the last election? So even their own supporters are against this cabal.

As well...

"Meanwhile, 64 per cent of Canadians across Canada said they would be uncomfortable with Dion as leader of the government, while just 25 per cent said they would be fine with the idea."

Can't wait for Dion to field questions on that result. We know he'll dismiss it as polls being polls, but at the very least it forces him to address his own unpopularity with Canadians.. that in the context of trying to take power.

It's all unraveling.

Tasha Kheiriddin of the Fraser Institute & a Quebecer has been speaking out about this crisis, saying:

*"Politics is often a dirty business"
*This is a conspiracy
*"Obscuring the real debate, which is the economic situation in our country"
*"Playing politics in a very serious economic situation in our country when stability is the thing markets are looking for, the Canadian public is looking for"
*"deficits for stimulus don't work in the long term"

She's also been out there rescuing Canada's right again with a great column blasting the defcits for economic stimulus (and that's being gracious).

They buried the lede:

"Thirty-four per cent supported political parties receiving public funding based on $1.95 per vote in the general election, while 48 per cent sent thought the parties should rely solely on their own fundraising."

Tasha Kheiriddin of the Fraser Institute & a Quebecer is really fired up about this crisis - just go see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lqaEll9qv0

http://www.62percentmajority.ca/home

The coalitions new website.

"Instead of working with other parties to tackle the current economic crisis, Harper’s opted for total inaction and political tricks."

Two problems, first there's no "economic crisis", I've seen this term thrown around a lot. We have a financial crisis, outside of our borders. We also have an economic slowdown.

Inaction? I can name you 15 things he's done.

Sorry, posted this on the wrong spot:

This coming Saturday could be an historic one - like Charlottetown's repudiation this will a scream back at the elites who think they can rule us. And we now what happened to the party that tried to push the accord down our throats...

As the slogan goes "The Conservative Party is Canada's Party".

Right now it looks like it is Canada's ONLY party...

....

This is latest post over at by Kinsella over at his site:

"
"In a time of universal deceit,
telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

George Orwell famously said that. He's right, of course.

I am heading off to sleep for a long while - it has been quite a collection of days.

Before I go, here's some fatherly advice: Be true to your heart and your mind, and you won't always be right. But you'll certainly sleep a lot better.

Good night, Canada."

Smells like defeat to me...

Maybe now a real purging of the corruption and machine politics of the left and centre-left can begin.

Poll at Canoe News:
What do you think about the opposition's move to take control of the Canadian Parliament?
It's good 12%
It's bad 30%
It's within the rules 9%
It's treasonous 44%
It won't make any difference 6%
Total Votes for this Question: 7587

To me it looks like 74% think this stinks!

Andre Arthur tells Don Newman what Quebecers think about the Coalition, and how they feel about Stephane "Life's a box of chocolates" Dion as PM:

http://flaggman.wordpress.com/2008/12/02/andre-arthur-on-stephane-gump/

Check out poll at canoe news:
What do you think about the opposition's move to take control of the Canadian Parliament?Looks like its 74% think this is bad or treason! (My links never work, sorry...)

EVERYONE should watch this clip of Question Period today. It may be seen as the turning point of this crisis.

http://watch.ctv.ca/news/latest/question-period---dec-2/#clip117957

Another poll goes horribly wrong.

EDB if you are out there'

regarding your reply to me the other night - pip pip. I have to admit I was fearful of the fickle Canadian voter and the affect the media impulse has over them, but after the last couple of days and seeing the reaction that has been generated because of this my heart has swelled. For those pundits who are saying that conservatives are displeased with Harper, well there seems to be a whole lot of potential candidates all of a sudden who are interested in supporting the CPC in a membership. I definitely am one of them again. No doubt Harper was holding most of the cards though, a very good call on your part.

......At Yahoo Canada, news editor Trevor Wilker said the “appetite for this story is huge.”
People, it seems, can barely wait for every twist and turn of the political plot.

“Whenever we do put up a new headline, you can just see the traffic come in,” Wilker said.

CTV dot CA
Who would you prefer to govern the country?
The Conservatives 29024 votes(63 %)
The NDP-Liberal coalition 17334 votes(37 %)
Total Votes: 46358 (Wow almost 47000 votes!!!)

A word of warning re the Our Right to Vote on the Coalition Government petition.

A few years back a petition re Ontario Hydro had been presented to the Ontario government which I believe was never accepted as legit because addresses weren't included.

You want to make sure the same thing doesn't happen to this petition.

Re: Polls - I guess Stephane Dion cannot now say the only poll that counts is the one on the day of the election now because he is afraid to go to an election.

You know - those who can't do teach.(Professor Dion)
Those who can't win cheat.

I hate to pimp my own blog on someone else's site, but I've got a post up with some commentary about this faux-grass-roots 62% majority site that's sprung up, and guess who it's registered to...check it out if you wish.

http://uncommontruths.blogspot.com/2008/12/whois-62-majorityca-youll-never-guess.html

WHOIS lookups are our friend. NatNews should have done it's homework....

Well done,Griff.The coalition for socialism is being exposed.

Letter in the Globe and Mail today from a fool named Max Yalden, former head of the Canadian "Human Rights" Commission, a.k.a. the Lynch Mob. He’s responding to Rex Murphy’s column on Saturday.

Here’s why he’s a fool: "[Murphy] recounts the myth that the ‘central’ human right is ‘free speech and thought’. All students of human rights are agreed that there should be no hierarchy of rights, but if there were, it would probably be the right to life. For untold numbers of the world’s hungry millions, it is more important to be able to put bread on the table than to indulge in delivering oneself of controversial columns of newsprint. And even in an affluent society like Canada, who would defend the view that the right to free speech is more ‘central’ than, say, equality rights for women or the rights of the child?"

The most notable myth here is that there is no hierarchy of rights. Of course there is a hierarchy, and, indeed, the right to life is the fundamental right from which all others derive (at least he clued in on this). "All students of human rights", therefore, are wrong, and unfortunately their little myth continues to do a lot of damage to genuine human rights. In fact, that is probably one goal of this misguided no-hierarchy notion: to destroy legitimate human rights, thereby enabling political prisoners and the gulag. The right to free speech and thought (and free expression generally) is a corollary of the right to life.

After this, Yalden starts babbling. "Putting bread on the table" is important to all, but he’s mixing apples and oranges. There is no right to bread, there is only the right to be productive and to trade with others for the products of their own efforts. Perhaps we should denote this as the right to live under capitalism (another right that governments violate). Furthermore, those who are productive need free speech to communicate with others for trade purposes and also to defend against those who would deprive them of their lawful gains. As Ayn Rand said, "What the ‘haves’ have is freedom, and it is freedom that the ‘have nots’ have not".

A second apples-oranges faux pas occurs when he pits free speech against "equality rights for women". Equality rights for women means that (for example) women have free speech equally as do men, that they are entitled to equal protection of the legal system, that their testimony in court shall (all other things being equal) be considered equally to that of men. This last point may not be found in all interpretations of the legal code of a certain religion that is considered "politically incorrect" to criticize these days. Equality rights for women does not mean, however, that (for example) the average wage earned by a woman should be the same as that earned by a man, or that any organization should have 50% women on staff and 50% men.

Oh, and if women have to wear burqas in society, then men should too. Curiously, the same people who loudly proclaim they are in favour of "equal rights for women" are often the same ones who would have Canada and other western nations remove themselves from Afghanistan, thereby leaving women to the tender mercies of barbarians who would treat them much less than completely equally. Which means that these advocates of "equality for women" are phonies and frauds, to the last man. Or woman.

There's a new name for the Coalition:

Canada's Sloppy Seconds, inspired by the comments of the NHL star which earned him a suspension.

Pass it on.

From a Liberal Blog: Hmmmmm.

Conservative MPs To Join "Grand Coalition"
From highly placed Liberal sources:

We're hearing confirmed reports of high level discussions with Conservative MPs regarding joining the Dion/Layton/Duceppe "Grand Coalition. Sources indicate that the MPs are "progressives", and are extremely upset with Harper.

The Conservative "floor crossers" will NOT sit in the Liberal Caucus. They will be part of the "Grand Coalition" as "Independent Conservatives".

As of posting, it has not been confirmed by our highly placed sources just when this "walk" will take place, but it is either to be Monday, or with further Harper shenanigans, after the fall of the government. Sources say these MPs could be part of the coalition cabinet. This certainly explains why cabinet members have not been named yet.

Vitruvius,thanks,I needed a break and listening to that reminded me of talking to my internet 'representative'.Kudos to him,he must be about i20 years old now and still frustrating people.A man that has found his 'calling'.

Belinda Stronach being offered a Senate seat? Say it isn't so!

Layton's reported conference call

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/2008/11/30/7585241.html

Three economic concepts:

Richard Florida, writing in Saturday’s Globe: "Keynes famously remarked that the economy would be better off even if all workers did was dig ditches and fill them up again".

This of course is preposterous. Such activity produces nothing that people can trade for or consume. Were the workers employed at productive farms, factories, offices, etc., they would be producing goods and services, and thereby raising the standard of living. Were all workers digging ditches and filling them in, the standard of living would be at zero.

When Keynes’ General Theory came out in 1936, a reputable economist of the day remarked that there was nothing in it that was both true and original. Unfortunately, Keynes’ unrealistic theories appealed to power-grabbing politicians, and we are much the poorer for it today.

Another Keynesian notion is the so-called Thrift Paradox. This refers to the idea that what might be best for oneself, namely cutting back on spending and saving more during tough times, is bad for the economy overall.

This one is dubious too. The proper way to deal with the economic problems today is to let them run their course, to let the economy adjust to the re-evaluation of the worth of securities and other goods and services, and find its equilibrium again (although equilibriums are always changing too). Say’s Law states that supply creates its own demand, or supply equals demand, i.e., you can only buy stuff with stuff you already have (or expect to have). An economy should be run by consumer demand, which means the value of goods and services should be decided by the free market, and not by government fiat that creates distortions that can only lead to a lower standard of living.

There might be a sort of paradox between these two notions, however: (1) people trade to get stuff they want more by giving up stuff they want less, thereby improving their quality of life; (2) societies get richer by saving, which allows some people to invest time and money in ways of increasing productivity (such as by creating machines to do certain work to replace manual labour).

Finally, the so-called Productivity Paradox. This one boils down to, "We governments invested all kinds of money into all kinds of activities, and still the economy is tanking".

The reason is: you forgot the most important economic engine, namely profit. You confused productivity with activity. Private economic activity is about producing goods and services, and about finding cheaper ways to make more stuff. This is where savings and profit comes from. Trade between individuals (and/or corporations) for mutual benefit means the corporation makes a profit in exchange for raising the individual’s standard of living. In other words, capitalism is a win-win situation. This misunderstanding of profit is one of the biggest mistakes that leftists make (not that they care much about reality or truth). If there had never been any profits, we would still be living in caves. These "investments" that spawned the alleged paradox might have been taxed from profitable businesses and donated to failing ones. Then it’s no wonder the economy is tanking, because the less productive are rewarded and the more productive are penalized.

Roy Romanow, one of the four Liberal economic advisers, writing in today's Toronto Star, says, "The roots of poverty are many and complex, and so too must be the solutions".

But the major root of poverty (by now) is lack of capitalism. Add to that physical or mental illness, poor decisions (like getting pregnant while young and single), and a few other things. Capitalism is a "raging torrent of progress" that enables such great productivity that people can overcome their mistakes or inherent disadvantages far more easily. Only when big government comes along and wrecks the economy through taxes and regulation do people have constant trouble that is hard to pull out of.

another poorly researched story from CBCpravda. this came from 500 dead ducks to 166 million in just two stories.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2008/12/02/edm-birds-oilsands-report.html

Re CTV poll: (quote)

In the midst of a coalition showdown, Canadians are deeply divided on whether the Conservatives deserve to stay in power, with 35 per cent saying the party should continue to govern and 40 per cent wanting change, according to an Angus Reid Strategies poll for CTV News.

...when asked about their preferred solution if the government falls:

Opposition coalition: 37 per cent
Holding a federal election: 32 per cent
No sure: 24 per cent
Allowing the opposition to run by accord: 7 per cent

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It certainly is unraveling... for the Conservatives. And this despite all the freeping being done by the Harper Youth.

"It certainly is unraveling... for the Conservatives. And this despite all the freeping being done by the Harper Youth."

Want to put a bet on it dipshit? Will you finally take your minority opinion and disappear when this goofy coalition gets it's arse kicked?

Shamrock: Like you, I also hope that Canadians put their little lives aside and go out and protest this Saturday. I've NEVER been to such a thing but definitely am going to the one in Vancouver.

How many times in our lives ... in fact, how many times in even 4 - 5 generations of our ancestors lives has anyone had an opportunity like this?

Le Coalition has been adamantly counting on the complacency of Canadians. If we're true to form then they win. If we're not then we go to an election. They still may very well win but I can and will completely accept that verdict.

Incidentally, here's my letter to the GG.

Minority opinion? As I recall, the Conservatives are the ones with a minority. The problem with Conservatives (and conservatives) is that they don't know how to count and always think that they are the majority. Which is why all this silliness is going on in the HoC.

Here's another example of not knowing how to count:

By THE CANADIAN PRESS

OTTAWA — An attempt by Stephen Harper to wrap himself in the flag and take a dig at the opposition coalition fell flat Tuesday.

The prime minister has been portraying the Liberal-NDP-Bloc Quebecois government-in-waiting as an unholy alliance of “socialists and separatists.”

During question period, he suggested the opposition parties staged their pact-signing ceremony Monday without a Canadian flag in the background because of the separatist Bloc.

“Yesterday, as part of the culmination of the machinations of the leader of the NDP, we had these three parties together, forming this agreement, signing a document and they wouldn’t even have the Canadian flag behind them,” he said.

“They had to be photographed without it because a member of their coalition does not even believe in the country.”

Video confirms that Harper was technically right. There wasn’t a Canadian flag in the background — there were two.

Yes, minority opinion. I couldn't give a rat's ass what the Canadian press says, or any other press for that matter. You are the minority, 37 or so % who are retarded, dumb or basically shills.
Your time has come and gone, get used to it idiot.

Canada is going to hell in a handbasket and the MSM are certainly doing their best to grease the skids. To hear them talk it is like this coalition junta is a fait de complet (sp). Lizzy "Tank" May is already picking out her senate seat and media hacks are brushing up on the protocols of Senate nap time, if they are annointed.

First point people are forgetting is that after a non confidence vote, it is the PM that goes to the GG to ask that parliament be disolved and an election called. It is then the GG's perogative to ask, if she so chooses, that a coalition form the government, provided they have a majority of the seats.

Second, and more importantly, it is the Lieberals and the Dippers who have formed a coalition with the Bloc saying only that they will support them. It is a case of put up or shut up. Supporting a coalition is not the same as being in one. It is like I support our troops but when they do a head count of Canada's military, I'm not counted.

These are trying times for conservative minded Canadians. If, for some strange reason, the trois amigos end up in power then the CPC are doomed. After being let down yet again, the west will be likely supporting a Reform Redux or western separatits.

Colour me totally disillusioned.

lberia, aka Stalin's pervert and executioner.

"Stalin's order to shoot the Polish POWs in 1940"
Beria's involvement in Katyn: Polish deaths at Soviet hands 1940+. ... are currently being held in prisoner-of-war camps of the USSR NKVD and in prisons in ...
katyn.org.au/beria.html

The Separatist Coalition:
The Socialist Troika: communist Duceppe-Taliban Jack Layton-Citoyen Dion.
...-

"But Mr. Duceppe's comments that the coalition could help his sovereigntist cause left some Liberals and New Democrats red-faced.

"I think that Layton and Dion won't change, they're federalists and I'm a sovereigntist," Mr. Duceppe told reporters. "I think every gain we're making here is good for Quebec, and what's good for Quebec is good for a sovereign Quebec." (g-m)

"McKenna says no to coalition

Former New Brunswick premier won't join 'wise men'; Manley uncertain. The so-called "four wise men" recruited to act as economic advisers to the proposed Liberal-NDP coalition government is now at best a threesome" (nnw)

"Ignatieff Warned off Coalition Cabinet Post

Michael Ignatieff, the front-runner in the race to replace Liberal Leader Stéphane Dion, is being encouraged by supporters to stay out of a Dion-led coalition cabinet." (nnw)

"SEPARATISTS RIDICULE DION
What's good for separatists is good for Canada, Monsieur Dion ? On the contrary, says Jacques Parizeau. "An impressive victory for Duceppe and the Bloc ... we've made immense gains ... the deal we've made Dion sign will make separatists smile ... Quebec sovereignty is once again the order of the day !" (Bourque)

The Separatist Coalition in the words of Citoyen Dion and communist Duceppe.
...-

"An angry Dion accused Harper of "lies" and said the coalition is good for national unity. "My fellow Quebecers who believe in separation are more likely to be reconciled with Canada if we work with them than if we marginalize them," he said.

One of the most raucous sessions in recent memory ended with a Tory chorus of O Canada in the government lobby. Minutes later, Duceppe was at the microphone saying he'll continue to work in the best interests of sovereignty.

"(NDP Leader Jack) Layton and Dion won't change. They're federalists and I'm a sovereigntist," he said. "I think every gain we're making here is good for Quebec, and what's good for Quebec is good for a sovereign Quebec.""

http://www.ottawasun.com/News/National/2008/12/03/7612956-sun.html

New CTV Poll
Should Parliament be prorogued until January?
yes 61%
no 39%
@http://www.ctv.ca/

I've just sent this to the PM:

Prime Minister

In another font (below), I’ve copied my latest email to the Governor General, which includes my remarks to Stephane Dion and Jack Layton.
___________________

Madame

I have just sent the following message to Stephane Dion and Jack Layton:

“Sirs

“Your willingness to displace the duly elected government of this country by false pretexts and underhanded means is a huge stain on both your personal integrity and that of your parties.

“That you would bribe the Bloq, a party whose raison d’etre is to destroy this country, as well as accord it the balance of power in your phony “coalition government” is traitorous.

“You and your parties are going to pay a very heavy price for such skulduggery. Check out the rallies on Saturday—my husband and I will be at one of them—and see just how angry Canadians are at the deal you’ve made with the devil. Canadians will remember and the results for you and your parties will be decidedly ugly. (This couldn’t happen to a more deserving couple of opportunists.)”

Madame, if you allow this travesty to occur, you will discredit both yourself and, more importantly, your high office.

I appeal to you to put partisanship aside and to exercise your prerogative responsibly, by disallowing this thuggish overthrow of the duly elected government of Canada by two duplicitous political parties, which are willing to give veto power to a third political party, which is disloyal to the whole idea of a strong and prosperous Canada.

_________________

Watching M Dion’s undignified, spoiled brat meltdown on TV last night, in contrast to your statesmanlike demeanour, was a powerful reminder of why this power grab MUST NOT go forward. My husband and I will be at one of the rallies on Saturday and I’ll be sending in one of the petitions.

You are in our thoughts and prayers at this remarkable time. Together, you, your supporters, and all Canadians who believe in justice, fair play, and democracy will turn the tide.

"waving a Koran and praying loudly", "while the intruder read the Koran loudly in another office.".

Don't worry,
it was "a man", "a stranger", "he", ""I'm here for the Libyan embassy.", "35-year-old man", ""He was yelling incoherently at people, religious things,", "never lowering the green Koran", "the Middle Eastern man,", etc.

MSM never uses the words: Muslim, Sudden Jihad Syndrome.
Don't worry.
...-

"Religious rants spark terror scare
Bizarre behaviour leads to evacuation: '9/11 has got people on edge'
By BETH JOHNSTON, SUN MEDIA
The Ottawa Sun

OTTAWA -- Office workers hid while colleagues fled out the front doors of a downtown office building yesterday morning when a man in a trench coat, waving a Koran and praying loudly, sparked a terror attack scare.

Half a dozen office staff on the 13th floor of The National Building at 130 Slater St. huddled in a back office as the stranger stormed their office, swearing and shouting religious rants in Arabic just before 9 a.m.

"Everybody felt threatened, he came in unannounced and wouldn't leave. His mannerisms were cause for concern so we gave him a wide berth," Vinci Park general manager Brent Robinson said.

Robinson called 911 as he and five other frightened workers "stayed out of harm's way" in the back office while the intruder read the Koran loudly in another office."
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Crime/2008/12/03/7614736-sun.html

Angus Reid and other polling agencies cannot be viewed as in any way a valid representation of the will of the people.

The reason for this are multiple: one reason is that their samples are 'quota' rather than purely random. Another is the biased nature of their quesions. I've studied a number of such polls and have been quite stunned by the semantics of the questions, which are both leading and biased.

After all, we see absolutely contradictory results from the online polls now being carried out in such places as CTV, etc. These are equally unscientific but at least, the questions are usually short and simple and rarely able to be biased.

The only valid measurement of the people is an election or referendum, which asks all people to express their choice. Anything else- any poll - is not the valid measurement.

Therefore, lberia, you can inform us of the Angus Reid poll, but it is as empty and invalid as is most of your regular rhetoric.

Could it be anymore obvious that MSM take their orders from the Liberals? First they gleefully supported the coalition until it became clear that the public was outraged. I suspect that the media and Liberal elite are furious that their plot line was once again rejected by the peasants. So on they move to their next flop- Get Harper. They sound nearly identical to the infamous Scott Reid's disgraceful G&M "ki11 him" comment. Sometimes you have to be almost embarrassed for Liberal journalists, their ineptness is astounding. They are completely out of touch with regular Canadians.

Canadian Labour Congress pumping out radio commercials in support of the coalition. Vladimir Illyich Layton has mobilized his comrades pretty quickly.

(PDF warning) Michele Dunne, The Baby, the Bathwater, and the Freedom Agenda in the Middle East

In reassessing how to secure U. S. interests while stabilizing the Middle East, the new U.S. administration might well decide to postpone or even repudiate democracy promotion. Democratic systems have hardly bloomed in the region since President George W. Bush announced a "forward strategy of freedom" during a speech commemorating the twentieth anniversary of the National Endowment for Democracy in November 2003. In fact, U.S. attention seems to have caused more problems than it solved, particularly in Iraq and Palestine. No one can guarantee that the United States can promote democracy in the Middle East without risking stability and critical interests, making it tempting to at least try to set aside the policy until clearer answers emerge, potentially under the guise of a policy review.

Yet, the new U.S. administration will undoubtedly encounter early challenges and opportunities related to democratization, which Arabs themselves increasingly recognize as essential to solving their countries’ internal political, economic, and social problems...

Yes, I agree with your comments re: Angus Reid methodology. But, given the coalition forces refuse to test their proposal with the electorate, what else can we go by. This is better than nothing.

the old three stooges short is amazingly prophetic. picture layton as Moe.

In You Nazty Spy, three cabinet members, Mr. Ixnay, Mr. Onay and Mr. Amscray (pig-latin for Nix, No and Scram), are discussing solutions to the economic woes of their Kingdom, Moronica. Since the King of Moronica wants peace, which is not economically profitable, the cabinet members plot his overthrow, institute a dictator and start a war. They find Moe Hailstone, who with his cronies, Larry and Curly, is busy wallpapering the dining room.

They offer him the greatest opportunity of his life – to be a dictator. Pondering it, Moe runs his hand through his hair. Scratching under his nose, he accidentally attaches a piece of dark wallpaper that was stuck to his finger. The tape mustache makes him look like Hitler. When Moe asks what a dictator does, he’s told, “He makes speeches to the people promising them plenty, gives them nothing and takes everything.”

Moronica gets a new flag – snakes entwined into the shape of a swastika, and a slogan, “Moronica for Morons.” There is talk of a beer hall putsch, Moe orders a book burning, and sends an innocent man to a “concentrated camp.” Moe plans the conquest of the country Starvania and assembles the famous Peace Conference of Oompola, arguing for a corridor through the country, Double Crossia. In the end, Moe plans to throw his country’s dissidents to the lions. Instead, the Three Stooges get eaten by the lions, and the film ends with a burping lion wearing the Reichsführer’s hat.

With friends like these...

Thomas Coghlan, German soldiers deemed 'too fat to fight'

First they were accused of not wanting to fight. Then they were blamed for failing in their main mission to train the Afghan police.

Now Germany’s battered military reputation has received a further humiliating blow. According to official reports the 3,500 troops in northern Afghanistan drink too much and are too fat to fight...

Well said, Concerned Canadian: my sentiments exactly!

ET is spot on. I'm still on the Angus Reid mailing list but, after putting up with pages of leading--and misleading--questions, where I usually want to answer "None of the above", I usually bail out. MY voice is nearly always missing from their gerrymandered polls.

Here’s the link for the online petition against the illegitimate power grab of our traitorous left-wing parties: http://www.PetitionOnline.com/CANADIAN/

My husband and I noticed a 500 signature jump in about two minutes. Canadians are NOT going to put up with this coup.

"...when asked about their preferred solution if the government falls."

It's already pretty obvious how this poll was skewed. The majority of Canadians would prefer the government didn't fall. This poll won't help Iggy decide whether to back off or not at all...

As we are all waiting for Michael Jean...

I have just realized that Canada's future is in the hands of a former CBC/Radio-Canada employee!!!

Try to imagine Katie Couric having the power to decide who will be in charge of the USA.

Neither can I.

But this Canada...

Posted by: lberia at December 3, 2008 2:57 AM

Open your ears and start listning to the words that was spoken. "PMSH said when agreement was signed that the Canadian flag was not BEHIND THEM.

The Angus Reid poll is a typical BS poll. You can always tell by the complexity of the questions and the number of answers.

Simple questions with straitforward choices are the most accurate.

Do you support the coalition's actions? yes or no
Should they seek a mandate from the people? yes or no
Who will you vote for if there is an election? CPC or Coalition

The fact that they did not ask the obvious questions gives away their intent.

Vintage Coyne at Macleans. A thorough evisceration of the coalition

Notes on a crisis: Who will save the Liberals from themselves?
So, just to review the bidding: If the coalition has its way, we would be governed by a party that won 26% of the vote barely six weeks ago, that has just a quarter of the seats in the Commons, that is a minority within its own coalition. It would be led by a man who, however massively he may have been rejected by the public at large, has even less support within his own party; who was in the process of being given the bum’s rush, but who will now pause, on his way out the door, to govern the country — for six months. The cabinet he convenes will be absent two of its most prominent members, either de jure or de facto, as they tour the country campaigning to succeed him.

It will, however, contain six New Democrats, whose job will be to push as hard as they can for as much as they can in the short time the coalition is likely to last. It will be similarly beholden to the Bloc for its survival, serving at their pleasure, vulnerable to a Bloc decision to withdraw its support every single day of the week.

And he will be powerless to resist either of them. He will have no legitimacy, no authority, no base of support. His party could not possibly endure another election, even with public funds; theirs could. His sole job will be to pay them ransom, in regular installments, until the whole thing collapses of its own weight — probably in a matter of weeks. It isn’t just that the coalition is made up of parties with wholly incompatible agendas. At some point, somebody will miscalculate, push too hard, overplay their hand. Or, most likely, either the NDP or the Bloc — possibly both — will decide, once they have milked the Liberals dry, that it would be better to provoke an election in the spring, while Dion is still leader, than wait until May, and the arrival of another, presumably more popular Liberal leader. (Oh, but it could not happen, Dion replies: he has a piece of paper. Please. Whipping up “betrayals,” is the Bloc’s life’s work. They do that sort of thing in their sleep: “This is not what we signed onto. The Liberals have not lived up to their end of the bargain. etc. etc.” The 18 month “commitment” is meaningless. It’s an agreement to support the government until they don’t.)

I know a good many Liberals who are utterly aghast at where this is taking their party. Simply put, Dion is driving them off a cliff. If Harper overplayed his hand at the start of this fiasco, Dion has returned the favour. That picture of Dion, Duceppe and Layton together on the podium will be featured in every Tory attack ad from here to kingdom come. It will burn its way into the public mind. At one stroke, Dion has legitimized the NDP as a party of government, marginalized his own party as a party of the left, and delivered the government of Canada into the trembling hands of the Bloc. To all intents and purposes, this will be an NDP-Bloc government. The Liberals are simply the front, propped up in the shop window to give the thing a veneer of respectability.

That, at any rate, will be the perception. And it is one that can only lead to the ruin of the Liberal party: when, not if, the coalition collapses, it will be the Liberals who will be consumed in the fires that will then rage. So the question becomes: When will the grown-ups in the party take charge? Already we are seeing some cracks in the Liberals’ resolve. Quietly, through surrogates, Michael Ignatieff has let his discomfort with the arrangement be known. A couple of the Liberal “wise men” who supposedly were to guide the coalition’s economic policies have publicly disowned the idea.

But if the party is to be preserved from the abyss towards which it is hurtling, somebody is going to have to grab the wheel. It’s not enough to hope that the Governor General will dissolve Parliament before then, or that Harper will prorogue Parliament. The first is unlikely, and the second only postpones the inevitable. Somebody needs to speak out, now.

Angry posts on The Big Lie, aka takkiya technique.

Masters of the Big Lie included Goebbels, Mohammed, Mao Stlong, and Stalin-lberia.

Socialist lies/liars; masters of deceit and dissimulation.
The socialist Separatist Troika is the Big Satan, the Spawner of Lies.
Socialism's ally is Muslim Islamism.
Muslim Islamism's Big Lie technique is takkiya.
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"Separatist Coalition lies: No advisory panel

Stephane Dion, imbued with the manic energy of someone who has one last chance to avoid becoming a historical trivia question ("Name the two leaders of the Liberal Party never to become prime minister"), has to deal with the lies being spoken by his Separatist Coalition.

One of the most serious ones is the lie of the "Four Wise Men"."
http://stevejanke.com/archives/279102.php

Steven Cherry, Spotting Snipers with Sound

In the movies, action heroes can dodge bullets or even catch them with their hands. In the real world, your average soldier is happy just to know where the shooter is.

For three years now, soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan have had help locating snipers. An acoustics ­system known as Boomerang, developed by BBN Technologies, in Cambridge, Mass., determines the location of a shooter by sensing the blast at the rifle’s ­muzzle and the air pressure of the bullet as it whizzes past. Now BBN is ­taking the technology further, ­building and testing a version for ­helicopters, which it hopes to ship next year.

The U.S. military first began to deploy the system in Iraq in 2005. Today more than 1000 of the units are in Iraq and in Afghanistan. BBN claims that the systems detect 95 percent of all ­bullets that fly anywhere within 30 meters of their sensors, never ­mistaking some other loud noise for a bullet...

Y2Kyoto - Another assumption laid asunder

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081203/sc_nm/us_climate_methane_2

Citoyen Dion: citizen of France and citizen of Canada.

Where would Citoyen's loyalty be when a conflict of interest arises between France and Canada?

See below*.
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"The French Question: Guess what's missing from the separatist coalition accord

Go through the accord. It'll take about 45 seconds. Who knew the right to vote on your choice of government could be dismissed with such a lightweight document?

But notice that there is something missing from the accord.

Nowhere is there mention that for Stephane Dion to usurp power, he would be required to renounce his French citizenship."
http://stevejanke.com/archives/279123.php
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*"Two other Canadian vessels and a French vessel that happened to be in Newfoundland will be participating in the search on Wednesday."

"Search continues for crew of sunken St-Pierre ship"
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/newfoundland-labrador/story/2008/12/03/st-pierre-search.html?ref=rss

The online petition I posted earlier (@11:16 a.m. today),

http://www.PetitionOnline.com/CANADIAN/

is growing by leaps and bounds.

At 10:30 a.m. today, the number of signatories was in the 91 000s. It’s now in the 160 000s. Please go there and sign!

Yes, lberia. BTW, is 26% a minority? Is 19% a minority. Is 10% a minority?

Please show me which ballots had "coalition" on them. Only arrogant fools infer voting for this or that party or candidate can prove anything else.

OTOH, lberia, if the coalition gets their way, being now disengaged from fed politics and working towards BC separation, I won't have to listen to, or care what, idiots like you think anymore.

Kyoto Dionky says, itsnot fair. France will be angry at Canada over this.

>>>> "the droughts are related to the solar magnetic phases and not the greenhouse effect."
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"Sun's Magnetic Field May Impact Weather And Climate: Sun Cycle Can Predict Rainfall Fluctuations

ScienceDaily (Dec. 3, 2008) — The sun’s magnetic field may have a significant impact on weather and climatic parameters in Australia and other countries in the northern and southern hemispheres. According to a study in Geographical Research, the droughts are related to the solar magnetic phases and not the greenhouse effect.'"
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081202081449.htm

Just a few thoughts,

The CBC/Radio-Canada is an unofficial division of the Liberal party.

Michaelle Jean was employed by the CBC/Radio-Canada.

The Liberals apointed Michaelle Jean.

The unlected Michaelle Jean has the power to make the unelected Liberal Dion (and his coalition) the leader of Canada.

Dion has dual citizenship (Canada/France) and so does ( or did) Michaelle Jean...and they are both from Quebec.

This coalition thing might be constitutional or legal but it is still hypocritical and immoral.

By the way, the Communist Party of Canada has declared its support for the coalition.

So we now have the socialists, communists and separatists, all engaged in destroying democracy and going after the taxpayers money.

friend of the usa - I don't know whether it's constitutional or not. I've asked repeatedly all those people who say 'it's constitutional' to tell me where in the constitution it talks about coalitions. They don't reply. I've read the constitution and I can't find it.

Because something is not illegal does not make it legal. The point is, it is denying the democratic right of the people of Canada to choose their government. We did not vote for a coalition, and to claim that a gaggle of MPs have the ethical right to, on their own, make such a decision, gives them a power that they should not have.
Why not?

Because they are voted in as representatives of the people. They must represent us and our will and our wishes. We haven't been asked if we want a coalition and therefore, as a representative governance, they have no right to ignore us.

And, to make the Bloc the power broker in this coalitin, when its members represent less than 20% of the Canadian population because over 80% are legally barred from voting for them - is a violation of our rights.

Taliban Jack wanted equal, but separate hair time.

But, the cracks are widening in the Separatist Coalition.
The snip below is the last paragraph in the article.
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"Mr. Dion's characterization of the formality of the coalition agreement contradicts Mr. Layton's assertion that it's a proposal, upon which he's
based his request for airtime."

"Layton denied own airtime tonight"
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081203.wPOLlayton1203/BNStory/politics/home

ET,

I only said it might be constitutional or legal because on quite a few conservative blogs people are saying it is.

To be honest I have never read more than a few short bits of the constitution so I have no idea who is right.

But either way, I think you and I agree that there is something immoral or undemocratic about this coalition and what they are trying to do.

The way I see it - if it is legal - then the law should be changed because ignoring the vote of the people is wrong no matter how you slice it.

I can not believe the future of Canada ( well for a while anyway ) is in the hands of an unelected former CBC/Radio-Canada teleprompter news reader apointed by liberals...who may well decide to ignore the vote of the people.

If all this is legal then today I am a bit ashamed to be a Canadian.
Our system is a joke.
It should be fixed.