Central Canadian Coalition Party.

CCCP.

Those 3 guys are born and raised in Quebec BTW. Don't forget that Jack Layton lived the first 20 years of his life in Quebec.

Check out the poll at the Global National...looks like the coalition is going over like a lead balloon.

How convienient...

A wall.

"Do you want a blindfold?"

Wrong title, Kate.

Quebec Shakedown.

Far away in another socialist paradise ...

In Zimbabwe: "Health Minister David Parirenyatwa said people should stop shaking hands to prevent the disease spreading."

"I want to stress the issue of shaking hands. Although it's part of our tradition to shake hands, it's high time people stopped shaking hands," he told The Herald."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7758147.stm

Michaelle Jean is also a Quebecker, whose husband is a separatiste.

So all four main players are from Quebec.

Hmm... What's the significance of the red ribbon they all seem to be wearing on their lapels?

Three Quebecers signed a power stealing agreement to wrestle the government away from western Canada. Western Canada elected 72 conservative MPs, while only electing 22 self-serving elitists.

This is clearly an attack on western Canada. The motto "The west wants in" has fallen on deaf ears and they have slapped us in the face.

It is time to give the boot to this joke called Canada.

Stelmach and Wall along with Doer and Campbell need to up the ante and fight this. This coalition will totally ignore and pillage western Canada to achieve their power hunger spending.

Viva Western Canada

AIDS awareness... just a thought

TimR : only a conservative wouldn't know that.
get out of your cave.

Interesting times. This Yank is wondering if these people are going to succeed with their Canadian Putsch. Not that America has been a shining example of clean -or at least legal- elections the last decade thanks to Democrat and allied groups' criminality. That said, I thought the idea of Democracy precludes parties that just lost an election seizing power via quasi-legal subterfuge just weeks later.

So, what say you? Are the NDPCommunists and BlocSecessionists going to succeed in ousting the election-winning party? Are the Canadian people going to allow this?

I'm embarrassed that other countries might see this picture and ask about the ribbons, and we'll have to explain that in Canada white men wear ribbons 51 weeks of the year for various causes. None of them benefiting white men, now that I think about it.

I'm embarrassed that other countries might see this picture and ask about the ribbons, and we'll have to explain that in Canada white men wear ribbons 51 weeks of the year for various causes. None of them benefiting white men, now that I think about it.

Does anyone remember the debate during the run-up to the October 14 election?
How in the world could any relatively sane individual believe that the three clowns attacking Harper could conceivably manage and run the Govt of Canada?
I find myself astonished and disgusted that we have officially reached "Banana Republic" status, without bananas.
Canada is not working out very well.

Nanos didn't waste any time. I got a call from Strategic Research tonight.
Some of the questions really ticked me off.

I NEVER watch CBC but just happened upon Peter Mansbridge on the National with a forum of three fairly well known commentators. One was with Decima Poll, another was Andrew Coin and the third was Chantal Hebert. What I heard was predictable but at the same time amazing. Each gave their take on the Troika of Pigs but what wasn't being said was much more newsworthy as what they spewed.

There as not even passing mention of what this all meant for the West and how really pissed-off the West really is about this. These A-holes haven't got a clue about the reaction of the West to the machinations of the menage-a-trois, nor do they seem to care. The more I see of what is going on in Ottawa the more I want to see things happen for us in an Independent Canada West.

In a previous thread, there is a link to the CKNW audio vault, with Norm the Spector, and Bill Tieleman, longtime NDP activist, hosted by Bill Good.

It is a must listen, as Tieleman, a self-avowed leftard, voices his HUGE concerns about the NDP getting into bed with Dijon, and the Separatistes.

http://cknwam.corusradionetwork.com/dynamic/dynamic_audiovault_process.asp?dt=20081201_10

I never thought I would say this, but I have had enough. Canada would be better off without Quebec. Either they go or we go.

Quebecois - 10 minutes in the cave for being rude to your hostess Kate, by insulting her guests.

If you want to contribute your two cents to Kate's site, perhaps you could do the same and pay your share for the privilege of living in Canada.

Very metaphorical...

Dion needs Layton's support. Duceppe needs handouts.

"So, what say you? Are the NDPCommunists and BlocSecessionists going to succeed in ousting the election-winning party? Are the Canadian people going to allow this?"

No one actually won the last election. The CPC got the most seats, but not a majority. The other three parties, who received 64% of the vote, are well within their rights to get together and form the government. Harper obviously has no one but himself to blame for this. And he knows it and so do you...

This reminds me of the scene from Apocalypse Now.

When Captain Willard asks a troopie:

"Who's in charge here?"

"Ain't chu?"

A Marxist, a lame duck and a traitor walk into a bar ...

Sad but...... Look at them.

They truly believe in what they are doing.

All for one and one for all! To Hell with the rest.

The pollsters are on side with the Coupscammers - remember, in the economic update there was also a policy to cut back on government polling, focus groups and outside consultants....The gravy train for the news media talking heads was also being curtailed.

Always- follow the money when you see the foaming spewing anti conservative "experts" on CBC, CTV and Global.

"No one actually won the last election."

What you seem to be forgetting is that Dion LOST! So did Taliban Jack! Gilles doesn't matter.

The front page of the Liberal website contains grammatical errors:

"Opposition parties sign agreement to government"

and in a separate item:

"Conservatives use deficit as an excuse to cuts"

Apparently Dion has been demoted to webmaster.

www.liberal.ca

It calls for a new Christmas carol ...

Deck the House with flags of Lenin,

Fa-la-la-la-la, la-la-la-laaa.

Tis the season to be taxing,

Fa-la-la-la-la, la-la-la-laaa.

Dion we now say is our PM,

Fa-la-la, la-la-la, la-la-laaa.

Didn't he just lose some election?

Fa-la-la-la-laaa, la-la-la, waaaaa.

What do all three parties support. hmmmm, lets see....

environmental tax
endless equity programs, especially for women
pulling the troops out of Iraq
billions and billions in economic stimulus
massive immigration (to TROC)

...and that's just a start.

Layton is going to want a pound or two of flesh from Dion in return for his support. So will Duceppe.

This will be the most left wing government Canada has ever seen.

Be afraid, be very afraid.

How come nobody is asking Chow-Chow if she is happy about hubby getting/giving bum F**ks??Oh wait.Right.She is to busy trying to find subsidized housing.

Geez the closer I look at Taliban Jack the more he resembles Vladimir Lenin the late unlamented Russian commie.

Stephen Harper, name the Supreme Judge immediately , stack the senate and then prorogue parliament until Obama gets inaugurated, then bring down a budget, cutting off the $1.95 political funding for the sneaky bastards in that budget.
Sure defeat, then call the election.
GG will never dare to ignore that call for the electorate to decide who will govern, a socialist troika or conservatives.

Welfare Bums Quebecouis, you included separatist, you talk a good game... do it on your own money you loser. Alberta has had enough of you welfare bums, ungrateful incestuous frenchies.

"Harper obviously has no one but himself to blame for this. And he knows it and so do you..."

I agree. And the Layton tape showing this deal was cooked before the Economic Update proves that. Harper's only mistake was winning the election fair and square. Shame on Canadians for voting the wrong way. They need to be taught a lesson.

Oh looky, what do we have here?

"Federal support for Quebec"

In 2008-09, the Govt of Quebec will receive $16.8 billion thru major transfers (Canada Health Transfer, Canada Social Transfer and Equalization), direct targeted support and trust funds - an increase of $1.6 billion from the previous year.

In 2008-09, the Govt of Quebec will receive $16 billion in major transfers - an increase of $1.3 billion from the previous year and $4 billion since 2005-06. THESE TRANSFERS WERE ESTIMATED TO ACCOUNT FOR 25% OF ITS REVENUES IN 2008-09.
(thats my caps)

Quebec also benefits from significant investments in targeted areas such as labor market training, infrastructure and short term policy priorities.

The Govt of Canada also provided support to Quebec through trust funds and direct targeted support prior to budget 2007, which is not reported below."

The way I see it, if Quebec can support the federal coalition Party of Liars and Thieves to gain power by dishonorable means, Quebec can also kiss their federal subsidy payments goodbye because there will not be a politician elected in Western Canada who will agree to contribute to federal equalization payments in the future.
The heros in Ontario can fund the provincial welfare bums of Quebec since they think alike.

Wealth created in Western Canada from now on will stay in Western Canada.

Hey, what could be funner than hardball politics?

I don't understand. I thought that only two people signed the von Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact?

Stimulus Separation Coalition

While Harper was undoubtedly right to want to cut the public funding of political parties, the timing shows that he still has a political tin-ear. The Libs and NDP are literally starving for funds - with the Libs massively in the whole - so it only makes sense that they would fight tooth and nail to keep the spigots open. Add to that the fact that the current economic situation has people completely freaked out (never mind that Canada is in relatively good shape vis a vis the rest of the G8 / world) and suddenly the Tories were evil for not wanting to have a ballooning deficit (even though the Libs would have lambasted them had the Torys proposed massive deficits), and Harper gave the opposition/MSM the chance it was looking for.

I like Harper and I think he is mostly right on the issues, but he makes the mistake of attacking small but symbolically important targets (arts funding, political funding) - it's not that I don't want to see those targets attacked, but there is a time for everything and he wastes massive capital on these small items - how about corporate and personal tax cuts, defense stabilization funding and justice reform? Things that are also conservative and can be framed to have broad appeal?

Welcome to Canada's new separatist government. Stand by for another plunge on the ol TSX in the a.m.

"I agree. And the Layton tape showing this deal was cooked before the Economic Update proves that. Harper's only mistake was winning the election fair and square. Shame on Canadians for voting the wrong way. They need to be taught a lesson."

Only 37% of Canadians voted for Harper. 64% voted for the coalition. Why be outraged when the coalition representing the majority is allowed to govern? In most countries that is called democracy.

Harper wanted to enter into a coalition gov't with the NDP and the BQ when he was in opposition. It would have been legitimate then, as it is legitimate now.

Look at those faces. It's like Christmas came early for those smug elite Easterners who are now going to help themselves once again to my family's life-blood in wages and labour, spending gazillions on pet socialist causes and vote-buying, while we struggle to pay the bills.

I voted for Harper, but I think he and his advisors share a lot of blame for this mess. They didn't have to give those three old white males the rope to hang the Cons with . . . that oh-so-diversified triumvirate was just itching to do this, and Harper gave the opposition parties the perfect excuse to unite.

I'm sort of sad. I feel like I've never really had a country. There was a brief flash of sanity under the Cons, but it proved so transient.

Where to run now? Obama and Clintons to the south, the Coalition of the Swilling up here . . . can Alberta separate and then have a really lax immigration policy for a wee bit?

Kate you have to see the Liberal website right now:

"Opposition Parties Sign Agreement To Government"

and

"Conservatives Use Deficit As Excuse To Cuts"

We have an illiterate party attempting to seize power.

http://www.liberal.ca/default_e.aspx

Gilles Duceppe is jumping for joy:

http://dailysaltshaker.blogspot.com/2008/12/important-member-of-our-new-government.html

Photo caption: "A hand shake and a hand out"...

Kate you have to see the Liberal website right now:

"Opposition Parties Sign Agreement To Government"

and

"Conservatives Use Deficit As Excuse To Cuts"

We have an illiterate party attempting to seize power.

http://www.liberal.ca/default_e.aspx

Kate you have to see the Liberal website right now:

"Opposition Parties Sign Agreement To Government"

and

"Conservatives Use Deficit As Excuse To Cuts"

We have an illiterate party attempting to seize power.

www.liberal.ca/default_e.aspx

Just voted at the Globe and Mail: 60% support the traitors. Fewer than 500 have voted so far.

Go vote!

Mike - where are you from? Never mind. Whether its East or West has no bearing in how far up your butt your head is stuck.

Mike, you are a horses ass.

It is ignorant of you to assume that every single voter that endorsed one of the three leftard parties, also supports the coalition.

The truth is that many in the NDP hate the Liberals, many of the Fiberals HATE the NDP, and many in both parties HATE the separatists.

Just wait and see how this unholy alliance plays out.

This is madness, a power grab, by an unelected, disgraced Fiberal leader, who now leads a coup to power.

If they fell that strong and sure, CALL AN ELECTION and defend your position to the Canadian people.

I'm so p!ssed over this right now.

Can you say double digit unemployment? Muti-billion dollar deficits?

here it comes, the socialists are coming to town

Hey Kate, I posted the same photo a few hours ago ... albeit with "another one" as well. :-)

Feel free to take a look!

The country of Canada doesn't matter....what matters is that the Revolution stays alive!

What is truly astounding is that these three freaks think that they have the right to overrule the 75% of the Canadian electorate who specificially voted AGAINST Dion as Prime Minister of Canada.

And to the pinheads who talk about the validity of a coalition, the Liberals and the NDP combined have far fewer seats than the Conservatives. There is no coalition.....it only exists because of the Bloc who is not a party to the coalition itself. Any request to the GG by these jerks should be turned down flat. Go to the people. The left will get slaughtered.

Everyone needs to calm down. This sucks, but the rules of the games allow for coalitions. Now, think about it this way... how long do you think this will hold? We are a long way from seeing the bottom in the stock market. The deficit is only going to get larger, any "stimulus" will have minimal effect. So in 6 months or so, Harper pulls a few MPs across the floor, and calls an election. By then the economy is really in the tank, Tories are flush with cash, and flood the airwaves with advertising. Presto, full majority with mandate for 4 years.

This is not unconstitutional. Yes, it's messy, but that's the way it's played.

Dave in Pa, this sort of nonsense is why you're founding fathers created a republic instead of a democracy.

I'm ashamed to say I just watched the CBC evening news coverage of this whole debacle...

What an absolute joke- why does the left so desperately need the $1.95/vote when they're already getting publicly funded advertising and endorsments from our "national news network"?

Mike:

But no Canadian voted for them as a coalition!  Not a single Canadian was told that the three parties were effectively one.  If they had run as a coalition, I seriously doubt that they would have received anywhere near 64%.

As three separate parties (one of which is geographically limited to the province of Quebec), they received more votes, though no single one even came close to the percentage of popular vote that the Tories received.

Basically, we've been told to go screw ourselves once again by the Liberals, aided and abetted by the Dippers and the Bloquistes.  The words of Liberal Senator Keith Davey — "Screw the West, we'll take the rest!" — echo oh-so-true out here...

Garth

Photo caption:

"Welcome to the Communist Party of Canada, Mr. Dion."

TimR : only a conservative wouldn't know that.
get out of your cave.

Posted by: quebecois separatiste at December 1, 2008 9:52 PM

Too right. Because wearing a bit of coloured ribbon shows everyone "you care", and if nothing else, liberalism is about feeling good about yourself. Because if you wanted to bring about acutal results, you'd have to start crowing about inconvenient truths like abstention, monogamous homosexual relations, etc. Much easier to strap on the ol' symbolic ribbon and preen.

mhb23re
at gmail d0t calm

Ah rogues, ah scoundrels of the first water- if they ever drank any.

I do not mean Stephen Harper and his boys and girls.

Two weeks before the end of the election campaign, Dion specifically said he would never enter into a coalition with the NDP. Any coalition in that sense is illegitimate. As is Dion.

quebecois separatiste...ever think of paying your own way? For anything? Ever?

Mike, are you saying nobody "wins" elections that result in minorities? Or is that just when Conservatives win, or the "progressives" don't?

Get your head out of the sand. Trudeau governed most of his time in minority. Oh, I guess he didn't "win" those elections either.

As for your second point, have you even considered the possibililty this was planned all along, as ET has opined on this blog.

BTW, there's plenty of debate whether this is OK. Rules of parliament involve long standing historical rules, which include use of precedent. That's why people look for other instances, like 1926 that are similar.

But, this situation is dissimilar. Mackenzie King has just "lost" the last election, and tried to cling to power, then asked the Governor General, Lord Byng to dissolve parliament. He was refused, the Conservatives and Progressives formed a de facto coalition and became the majority, and therefore the government. Hence, the Progressive Conservative Party was born.

Is that the situation now? If Harper didn't win the last election, then surely the other parties didn't win it by even more. Furthermore, the "coalition" itself has less seats than the present government, so in no way can command the confidence of parliament. In addition to the uniting through coalition, a minority support situation is mixed in.

So be careful when you say everyone should know what nobody can possibly know, given there isn't a credible precedent available for consideration.

And on and on it goes.

Anyway, I am curious - notwithstanding legalisms - do you agree that the "coalition" should take power in this case, that an election is unnecessary?

"It is ignorant of you to assume that every single voter that endorsed one of the three leftard parties, also supports the coalition.

The truth is that many in the NDP hate the Liberals, many of the Fiberals HATE the NDP, and many in both parties HATE the separatists."

But what you are forgetting is all of these groups hate Harper much more than they hate each other. This is why the coalition will succeed.

Harper brought this on himself. In one immensely foolish stroke he united the left. The majority of the country is centre-left. He blew it.

In frace after WW2 they shaved the heads of some collaborators. others got the wall.

About that 37% crap - the highest percentage of votes Pierre Trudeau EVER had was 38% which gave him majority governments and the unfettered ability to literally decimate western canada and Alberta.

Chretien's highest percentage of votes from all three majority governments where he ramrodded through every Liberal loving pork bellied program was 43%.

This is a completely shyster argument.

Also, all of the MPs from all parties were elected by their voters on the program and mandate they ran on. This is bait and switch deceipt.

The conservative throne speech passed last Thursday. It was what they ran on and it received parliament's approval. That means what is in the throne speech is only mandate chosen by the people of Canada unless the cahooters want to go back to the electors with their new hidden agenda plan to get our approval.

Until then...any other plan is illegitimate in my opinion and I refuse to pay taxes to Ottawa if this happens.

"The conservative throne speech passed last Thursday. It was what they ran on and it received parliament's approval. That means what is in the throne speech is only mandate chosen by the people of Canada unless the cahooters want to go back to the electors with their new hidden agenda plan to get our approval."

And this plan to remove the $1.95 subsidy was in the throne speech? In the CPC election platform?

These clowns have no authority to spend my money.

If they'd like to get that authority, call an election.

Otherwise, piss off.

mike - a government based on hatred is illegitimate to its very moral and ethical roots.

A government based on backroom deals outside of the will of the electorate is illegitimate to its democratic roots.

A government that requires for its maintenance, the veto/approval of a political party that is available to the voters of only one province and denied to the majority of the electorate, is illegitimate to its democratic roots.

A government that rejects the will of the people and that refuses to go to the people for a mandate for its particular operation, is illegitimate to its democratic roots.

And combining the Conservative, NDP, Bloc and Green (and "others") votes means that more people voted against Stephane Dion becoming PM than against Stephen Harper becoming PM.

Yeah, the "Harper brought this upon himself" argument only flies if you didn't listen to the recording of Layton's conference call, where he makes it clear that this has been in the works for a while. Any flimsy pretext, like the dastardly notion of asking parties to do their own fundraising, was going to be enough to trigger the junta into action. And a flimsy pretext was what they used.

Time for the west to use Dion's Clarity Act to separate from Canada and leave the Quebecers to their own just rewards.

Let’s say for arguments sake that these clowns pull this coalition off, what happens when the next general election comes around? Do they go back to their respective parties, or do they go into a general election with this coalition? And if they governed with this coalition, how do they keep their respective parties intact to fight the next election? Would this coalition contraption set a precedent for the future take-over of any minority government?

Does anyone know of any rallies in support of the Gov't being planned in SK?

Here is the e-mail I sent to Duceppe. The West no longer wants in we want out.

Dear Mr. Duceppe.

Your a sly one Mr. Duceppe. Just like the Grinch who stole Christmas. I think you will be pleased in the outcome of your coalition government as not only will it likely result in Quebec leaving federation but possibly Western Canada. It seems that stomping your feet, blackmail, or whatever you call it has worked well for Quebec. There is an old saying. If you can't beat em join em. I have a feeling you may get a lot more support for separation from Western Canada, I trust you will also provide support back. Three countries are probably better than one

Mike: "Harper obviously has no one but himself to blame for this. And he knows it and so do you..."
No -- Harper has much to answer for, but responsibility for the problem is multifold -- with the Opposition parties parties pushing forward on a phoney issue (stimulus pkg. which would be coming soon enough). A key question at this point is what would be best for Canada -- I think defusing the situation. I believe Harper has been chastised and would likely govern with much more humility should he get out of this.

"TimR : only a conservative wouldn't know that.
get out of your cave."

Not all of us Canadians are constantly trying to F*ck each other over and as a consequence are not in tune with the delima facing most of the quebecois separatiste.

bverwey

Mike

Tell your puppet masters to call an election, and stand behind their corrupt, unholy alliance with the separatists.

Hope you enjoy double digit unemployment, and huge deficits, it's guarantee under your commie troika

Hear, hear, ET! Well said!

shamrock - the situation as I read it is rather different; it is that it was King who formed the coalition. What happened is that he was in power, called an election and then actually lost the election.

He received only 99 seats; the Conservatives got 116 seats; the progressives got 24. But King refused to resign - and until the PM resigns, he's in power. He instead said that he would form a coalition with the Progressives. So, King with his 99, joined with the Progressives with their 24. But, after a few months, this wasn't working and he wanted to call another election.

The GG refused, and handed power over to the original winner of the election - the Conservatives with their 116 seats.

The current NDP-Lib coalition certainly has fewer seats than the CPC; it has no right to form a government. It is instead, relying on the 'goodwill' of the Bloc, who will de facto be moved into the role of Caesar, Emperor, over Canada. All House decisions will go through only with the approval/veto of the Bloc. I wonder how much they are being paid for this role?

No, this coalition is deeply undemocratic and unethical. Think about it. It's setting up a precedent where EVERY YEAR, the opposition parties can move themselves into being The Government, simply by opposing the Annual Budget, then, forming a rapid coalition, and insisting that they, without an election, be The New Government.

That's called 'Giving the Finger to the electorate and democracy'.

Forget Curly, Larry or Moe...how about 'Driving Ms. Duceppe'. Duceppe in the the back of the limo with the chauffeur (Layton) and the valet (Dion) in the front, both with their hands on the wheel, weaving all over the place. "Yes Ms. Duceppe. Where to now Ms. Duceppe".

This is just wrong. Any way you look at it ... if it was reversed and the Liberals had won the minority gov't, and the Conservatives tried to pull this crap... it's wrong! and it's anti-democratic! Because you can't say they now have the support of the majority. The rest of those votes were very wide-spread. Particularly when the Bloc was involved.
If they are allowed to form this type of coalition, a national referendum should be required before they can take power.
A referendum of the Harper government vs the 'Coalition': I think even the most die-hard Liberal or NDP'er would have to do some major soul searching to justify voting for a group that legitimizes separatists.

Stimulus hmmmmmm

I think I got it. When you do a semen test on a bull you put a probe up their rectum and give them a mild shock then you collect the semen. Is that the kind of stimulus the three amigos are talking about?

"Tell your puppet masters to call an election, and stand behind their corrupt, unholy alliance with the separatists."

"...unholy alliance with the separatists"?? I suppose you had a different name for it when it was Harper sending this letter to the GG:

"As leaders of the opposition parties, we are well aware that, given the Liberal minority government, you could be asked by the Prime Minister to dissolve the 38th Parliament at any time should the House of Commons fail to support some part of the government’s program. We respectfully point out that the opposition parties, who together constitute a majority in the House, have been in close consultation. We believe that, should a request for dissolution arise this should give you cause, as constitutional practice has determined, to consult the opposition leaders and consider all of your options before exercising your constitutional authority. Your attention to this matter is appreciated.

-From a letter to then-Governor General Adrienne Clarkson signed by all three opposition leaders: Gilles Duceppe, Jack Layton and Stephen Harper
(September 9, 2004)

Mike: "And this plan to remove the $1.95 subsidy was in the throne speech? In the CPC election platform? " -- I thought the issue was the stimulus pkg. -- not the $1.95. Anyway, that has been taken off the table, so it is no longer an issue. The central problem lies in the quest for power -- those that have it use it for their advantage. Those that don't cut backroom deals to get it. Anybody remember Dion's WE HAVE TO GET BACK INTO POWER during the leadership race? This is the game they are ALL playing.

What is too bad is that I think when he is not playing dirty politics Harper runs a pretty good and pretty centrist government. That's why he was able to increase his numbers this time.

a classic quebec handshake . Palm up.

FREE THE WEST!!!!!!!!!!!

I must say I'm enjoying the crocodile tears from a group that would happily impose its social agenda on the 60% or so of Canada that did not vote for it - if that group could get a majority.

As a few have pointed out, you can do this in the parliamentary system. Politics is a blood sport, sometimes you eat the bear sometimes the bear eats you.

Tories will be using this as a club against the Liberals and NDP for at least half a generation, I wonder if it is worth it to turf Harper from 24 Sussex for less than year in all likelihood. We'll see.

If these guys truly believe this is "what Canadians want" then why not go back to the people in an election - run the three of them on the platform of their big plan and $30 billions of taxpayer money to failing industries and labour unions and let US decide.

Until then anything else in illegitimate. Period.

Only to make a comment on the picture.

Someone, some time ago mentioned that the leader of the socialists looks like Lenin.

It is increasingly becoming more obvious in the appearance and in the actions of this character. His behavior looks more of becoming a communist.

Kate...

You should know, I live in the GTA.

They would not play this in the GTA(am640). They started it, but then cut it off, and it was commercials for 10 min..

Soooooooo Pissed.....

They have so many damn ribbon days that I no longer pay any attention to them. I thought that MADD just had a red ribbon campaign and the stupid white ribbon day is coming up soon. The only thing I ever wear on my lapel is a poppy.

It is so appropriate that on the day the socialists take over Canada, the conspirators are all wearing red ribbons which have long been a symbol of the socialist movement.

The PPG and MSM is apart of this power grab, along with Power corp......

No, this coalition is deeply undemocratic and unethical. Think about it. It's setting up a precedent where EVERY YEAR, the opposition parties can move themselves into being The Government, simply by opposing the Annual Budget, then, forming a rapid coalition, and insisting that they, without an election, be The New Government.

That's called 'Giving the Finger to the electorate and democracy'.
Posted by: ET at December 1, 2008 10:55 PM

Exactly!

The tactic on CBC and CTV is to load much of the whole problem on Stephen Harper.

If it was 30% Harper and 70% the cunning scoundrels; one can be sure the media will call it 70% of blame on Harper and if one is lucky, 30% blame for the aforesaid scoundrels.

Gilles: "Anyone got $20 for the cab?"

Thank you for your eloquent words, ET: "No, this coalition is deeply undemocratic and unethical. Think about it. It's setting up a precedent where EVERY YEAR, the opposition parties can move themselves into being The Government, simply by opposing the Annual Budget, then, forming a rapid coalition, and insisting that they, without an election, be The New Government."

This precisely what I was trying to explain to a fellow on my blog - though you said it better. If this is such a fine thing then why has it NEVER been attempted in the history of Canada; not once under circumstances remotely similar. And even the 1985 Ontario situation and the 1926 King-Byng Affair were wildly different.

In 2008 we have a party that was JUST elected and hasn't even passed one budget. Of course, the liberal MSM won't allow these simple facts to be discussed but I'm hopefully that enough Sheeple will wake up!

OH MY GOD..., Dijon has said that the "tree" of them will now run the country. Taliban Jack said that their stimulus package would be displayed in prompt fashion unlike the Conservatives. Not one of the "tree" stooges could answer what would be involved in this magical plan other than it is definately so much better than any plan that the conservatives have. That this coup has been incubated for some time is becoming increasingly apparent. That this action is a crime against the Canadian people is in no doubt. That these "tree" members of the bright red nose big floppy shoe crowd are attempting to pull this off is sickening. As a concerned citizen of this country I would ask Mr. Flarherty and Mr. Harper to stick to their guns and stay on course with everything that was in the economic statement, and would also ask the true Canadians in the Liberal and NDP caucases to put their love of country and fair play ahead of the grandious schemes of the "tree" coalition traitors. We need a national election called and let the people decide (again) who should govern this wonderous country because this fiasco will not succed and many ordinary citizens will be hurt very badly by this grab for power.

There is one bright side to this mess: at the end of the coalition when Duceppe knows his free ride is coming to an end, he will set the terms for Quebec's separation, unfortunately it will cost us dearly.

Former hospital orderly and Maoist, Gilles Duceppe. No country has a finer set of losers in opposition than Canada. Right now I would have more faith in the Kokahnee Ranger than the Three Caballeros and their Mariachi Band.

All three of these guys are from Quebec. Talk about being ruled by the minority!

So the liberals claim they are getting into bed with the separatists because the Tories aren't running a large enough deficit/stimulus package.
Wasn't it just a few weeks ago they were bent out of shape BECAUSE they thought Harper was going to run a deficit?

Mike: Can you point to the part in the letter where it says that Harper is proposing to overthrow the government and create his own while sidestepping the electorate?

Are you really that ignorant?

Look how normal evil looks than remember. Think of the maneuvering fraudulent minds behind the suites. This is how a Country dies. Canadians of the “Hinterland” will be nothing but slaves sans Ontario with Quebec‘s Elite. We will no longer be citizens but chattel of the State. Newfoundland’s oil will be plundered as well. They just don't know it yet. Its no contest what We in the West will have to do to Be Strong & Free. The Federation is dead. Harper is not the villain, this was planned a long time ago. The Dominion has be sundered. This is a Socialist take over. Expect no election or if they come, to be like in Mugabe land. Fixed or contestants intimidated. I don't even rule out them jailing any opposition members. Our police seem to be suborned as well as our MSM to liberal Fascism. Its now quite clear just how treacherous Ottawa has become.
From the blogs in the East I have never seen such tripe. They want a dictatorship. I see online here a lot of Liberal & NDP supporters out beating there drum.
I just got as phone call offering me a chance at 500 dollars if I answered there survey. Its asked who I would like as a Leader from the Green Party to Dion. Harper was 5 on the list to push. The second I did the phone clicked off. There trolling for support at legitimacy. But only those dogmatically pure may apply.
JMO
JMO

In most civilized societies, those three would be on trial for treason by now.

For those blaming Harper and Flaherty...that's a crock. We all now now that it didn't matter what was presented as an Economic update, this was in the works. This is disgusting.
And forget about another election. Most people on these blogs are political junkies like me. Why would the luke warm electorate even bother to vote the next time if their vote doesn't mean squat in the end?

I want my share of the stimulus package, my company needs support, it is viable, has good prospects and we can sell what we manufacture. Come on give it, now, not tomorrow otherwise I will separate.

It wouldn't have mattered whether Harper spent money like a drunken sailor or was so tight he squeeked when he walked, as soon as he tried to cut the "Three Little Piggies" off the taxpayer swill, they jumped. The plan was already in place.

I'll be keeping my powder dry.
Time to have the free Republic of Alberta.

Oh, and Mike - I hope you get to be the first in line at your local food bank.

Dave.

If you take the province of Quebec out of the equation,the seat count in English Canada is 133 Conservative,100 Lib/NDP,0 Bloc.These figures are thrown out the window and we end up with a minority gov't beholden to a separatist master.Those people who elected the 133 Conservatives have just been told that their vote does not count in the "New Democratic Canada".This is so wrong !!!!

Infrastucture takes time to establish, does Dion intend to hire people immediately and have them receiving union pay while sitting, waiting for the years it takes to plan and prepare the infrastructure projects?

BTW,the GG was appointed by Paul Martin because he thought she was hot. It didn't hurt that she worked for cbc and slept with old white men either,and now she will make one of the most important decision in Canada's history. I think she is already bought and paid for.

How about this number 38% of the population that voted are now solid conservatives. Time for the West to leave!!

Hey guys !
Please don't throw all Quebecois in the same (socialist ) bag !
Some ( at least I ) are not like that.

Here is what I see has the best way to fight this Coup d'état: http://duvertaurouge.blogspot.com/2008/12/le-putsh-du-gouvernement-canadien.html

If the west leaves I'm heading for the for the Manitoban border before the iron curtain comes down and East Canada becomes the newest member state of the EUtopia.

The only question is, will the traffic jam of hard-working, self-reliant, capital-generating citizens pouring out of Ontario back the Trans-Canada up all the way into Lake Ontario?

Well with this Dion gets to be not the 2nd Liberal leader to not ever be PM. He leaves in May and both the national socialist and Gilles Moaists will be on the sidelines for the Liberal's May leadership campaign for the Liberal party to appoint our next PM. Without a doubt both of these parties will put in some influence for their continued support. If the Liberals want to continue to enjoy their support after May the Liberals will need to provide a leader that meets the requirements of the national socialists and the Maoist seperatists.

Question: Will the new stimulus package include nice big fat bail out bribes to CTV, Global and CBC and newspapers like the Toronto Star who have had to cut staff?

I'm just asking.... for every single pundit and talking head and so called journalist who supports the travesty I say follow the money. What's in it for them?

I was born in Newfoundland and am now a US citizen. If western Canada REALLY wants to freak out the east, start talking about Statehood. I'd LOVE to see Alaska connected to Washington through BC.

Besides, the US could use a few more red states about now, and I know a lot of peeps in the west would like their handguns back. LOL!

Anyone remember that little "wink-and-nod" Obama gave to Canada when the re-do of NAFTA became an issue during his primary campaign?

Perhaps BHO knew this was coming and gave his tacit approval.

Just thinkin'... ya know.

Posted by: Hucbald at December 2, 2008 1:11 AM

"... and I know a lot of peeps in the west would like their handguns back. LOL!"

Coup d'états are a bit more problematic with an armed citizenry.

>"TimR : only a conservative wouldn't know that.
~quebecois separatiste

Conservatives already have AIDS awareness.
Conservatives are the ones who live a lifestyle that precludes getting HIV in the first place.
Neither myself nor my loved ones will be getting AIDS or HIV.

What I as a Conservative don't have in my "cave" is ribbon fad awareness.
I can live without it.
Keep on being a fashion slave QS.
(Patient Zero for the global AIDS pandemic was a queer Quebecer, how is that for awareness? Not too bad for a cave dweller, eh?)

>"The CPC got the most seats, but not a majority. The other three parties, who received 64% of the vote, are well within their rights to get together and form the government.
~mike

Stephen Harper has run Canada well for the past 3 years, where was this coalition then?
Now Stephen Harper has even more seats then he had before then election, there was no coalition running against his CPC, he should run Canada for another 3 years or face another election where the "coalition" is running against his CPC.

I want another election, now.
We'll see how much this "coalition" is supported.

"There is one bright side to this mess: at the end of the coalition when Duceppe knows his free ride is coming to an end, he will set the terms for Quebec's separation, unfortunately it will cost us dearly."

I used to think that separation was a bad thing for Canada. But after this fiasco I think it is the ONLY solution for the west. If this coupe is successful and GG ok's it western Canada will get screwed ad infinitum. Every time a party is elected by the west this kind of shit will happen.
With a party like the bloc it will be very hard to get a majority government.

Horny Toad

Thanks Ward, I was going to post that myself. I've seen it all over the last couple of days from leftoids like Mike. It's a relief to see that some of us can still reason eh!

Can't help thinking that maybe Dion has thrown Iggy and Boob under the bus. The deal makes Dion prime minister until his retirement in May it doesn't mention the new leader of the Libs remaining as PM. Perhaps that is why Jackie is so happy, since he brokered the deal is he the PM after Dion. If that's the case maybe Iggy and Boob might still walk the floor!

If I was to look for some reasonable rational for this Canadian act of treason & treachery, and was particularly speculative, I would say that George Soros (EU) & Obama are behind this play. Dion was supposed to win but the plan failed and now he gets his make over & the French Metal of Honor

The USA is spinning out of control with Obama’s communist EU agenda. The optics of Canada under Harper's stability would be a PR nightmare. Think! What would happen if the Big 3 stopped building cars in the USA but ramped up their Canadian Plants? Canada, under Harper, would become an economic powerhouse picking up all the investment dollars of America’s shunned industries. Canada has to be in the same state of chaos or it looks bad to the American public.

The Canadian communists seize power and follow the US lead... Canadian Sovereignty becomes mute surrendering without a shot been fired. The Canadian democracy is DOA. The GG will approve the coup d'état, and that will destroy all remaining legitimacy of the Monarchy. Good riddance!

Prove me wrong

"Taliban Jack" Layton (on the left) may confirm western Canucks' suspicions that Canada is a de facto colony of Quebec.

- Mark Steyn

Phillip, this is homegrown. They're simply riding on the coattail of the Obamanation. Same with our media - they observed first hand how a media system devoid of ethics can control a political process, and since their financial picture is in the toilet (tons of layoffs this week in Cdn media sectors) milking this help bolster the bottom line. Keeping this going keeps them alive. Like Jack says, "...democracy, what about it?"

This coup has Bob Rae's fingerprints all over it. He's the one intervenor with both feet firmly planted in both camps. The discussions about doing this started during the first CPC minority, not after the last election. It was clear that this tactic was a consideration during the first minority, but the Liberals were too self-secure to play. Having lost the confidence of Canadians, Dion is desperate and so now he'll toss what's left of his principles and intellect under the bus at all cost. Jack and Gilles are all in because neither have any ethics, Jack especially. At least Gilles puts his cards squarely on the table as to what he stands for. Jack's just plain white trash.

http://poll.pollcode.com/h1p

jUST WONDERING, AGAIN

While Harper was undoubtedly right to want to cut the public funding of political parties, the timing shows that he still has a political tin-ear .... I like Harper and I think he is mostly right on the issues, but he makes the mistake of attacking small but symbolically important targets (arts funding, political funding) - it's not that I don't want to see those targets attacked, but there is a time for everything ...
Posted by: Holdfast at December 1, 2008 10:17 PM

That's just about 100% of a conversation I had recently with my only conservative friend.

I like the way Lorne Gunter put it: Harper was too-clever by half; the commie parties disingenuous by a factor of 6 (not exact words, "commie" mine). Obviously, Harper, a good and decent man of integrity, lacked the imagination to foresee the depths to which these commie scumbags would descend.

I'm also remembering Harper's nonsense about declaring that Quebec was a "nation" and that some of the smartest commenters here were in a swoon over his alleged tactical brilliance. As we can see, it got us precisely nothing.

You guys are all too worked up. Harper, if he survives this (I am sure there are some Conservatives out to get him if this government falls) will be in the drivers seat soon. Really, how long will this coalition last with the support of the separatists??? It will fall soon enough, then how will they campaign? Will it be the NDP and the Liberals, or the Liberal-Democrats? Do we have three guys leading national parties making no sense while Duceppe cleans up, or is Harper just setting these fools up for the big kill?