Cool, I'll be the first to comment here. I'm the dummy who contributed the Coalition of the Swilling...The Buck Ninety-Five so kills that.
When this whole economic update, cutting subsidies thing came out I cheered out loud. Harper's shrewd move really gave me hope of a real move towards the right. Then this coaliton crap comes out...never saw that coming. It's very exciting to follow for junkies like me...but some elements I hadn't considered.
Thanks Kate.
My nostrils are touching my earlobes right now, I'm so mad.
The unforeseen ramifications of these power hungry idiots really scare me.
Go Harper. And please stay strong
Sam.

Canadian markets would be down this am. anyways, but the current political uncertainty is certainly making things worse. Any thoughts on whether Power Financial, gold and oil will be the appropriate investment strategies going forward?

And it all goes according to plan for Duceppe.

I'm with you 100% Sam. I have never been so angry in my life. The TSX was up 500+ points on Friday, before all this crap came to light. Now it's down 600+ and still sinking.
What's next? After they stage the coup are they going to seize all the media outlets and declare marshal law? I feel like I'm living in some turd-world country in Africa or Central America.
These people have no shame wahtsoever and it's patently clear that they have nothing but disdain for the Canadian people.

Last thing I read before going to bed was abt Jackal's move and after a few hours' sleep was awakened sharply with a feeling of dread. I went into praying mode for the next two hours so am tired and ready for a fight.
When the jackal was pumping out the ads before the election I wondered where the money was coming from. Now I'd really like to know.

The real ramifications of this are that the block will now have defacto power over this Country from now on. The block has always been seen as a non suitable parter because of the whole want to destroy Canada thing. This short sighted stupidity will change that. They will be seen as the party necessary to appease for power.

We are all doomed.

And they also brought down the S&P (down 4.6% in the same 15'), the Nasdaq and Dow (also 4% down). Boy, these socialists up in Canuckistan have all of North America's economy under their spell! The end is nigh! It's all Jack's fault!

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Canada...in distress.

And they also brought down the S&P (down 4.6% in the same 15'), the Nasdaq and Dow (also 4% down). Boy, these socialists up in Canuckistan have all of North America's economy under their spell! The end is nigh! It's all Jack's fault!

The tanking TSX: the Liberal economic stimulus package in action.

Tranna cztar comments pretty much across the board.
Nice to know some readers believe in a thing called democracy...

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/546315

We need an election after we read all this crap.

And the last couple of months of stock market declines were whose fault? Small Dead Minds indeed.

If I was a voting person, I'd say it was worth an election to see which option people really want, Harper's plan or the Coalition.

Yeah, Harper only received a minority, but the other parties received even less votes--and I don't think anything like a majority would have supported a party offering Finance Minister Jack Layton.

So: if it comes down to it, the Governor General should let the electorate speak.

I'm finding it fascinating that the left seems *not* to want a vote on it.

And the last couple of months of stock market declines were whose fault?

Left wingers in the United States who decided that money should be loaned to people who never should have been given loans.

One can only hope the GG sends us back to the polls. I don't see how she can approve a coalition that has Separatists holding the balance of power over Canada.

In other news....... GDP up for the third Quarter.
Not by a lot, but up nonetheless.
Stats Can.

"The Troika of Evil"

Well Mark, her background is Separatiste.
And that goofball of a husband of hers is as well.

PMSH needs to be talking to 9-10 liberals who don't want this "New Libs on the Bloq" to cross the floor to the CPC.

"One can only hope the GG sends us back to the polls. I don't see how she can approve a coalition that has Separatists holding the balance of power over Canada."

I seem to recall the GG's husband was an avid separatist and she was a Liberal appointee. Where do you think her loyalties likely lie?

I just sent the Governor General an E-mail telling her we need an election. For her to allow the coalition to take over will lead to the destruction of Canada. ...... info@gg.ca

I sent many e-mails yesterday, but the most important one was to the GG. I think she needs an avalanche of them. NO coalition, I want an election...maybe we can cut off the head of the snake.

the GG can cut a deal with the libs to be GG for life , and they can invite Adrian Clarkson to come back for the new position of the Queen Bum.

God created Canada so rich he had to put Canadians there just to make it even.

the only crisis created here are self induced.

at least it knocked Omar Khadr off CBCpravdas radar screen.

atric" "And that goofball of a husband of hers is as well." Yes, I too am concerned that the goofball husband will have strong influence here. The appointment of the "actress", rather than a statesman (woman) with a strong record of leadership in Canada was a dire mistake for which we may now pay the consequences.

da "Coup Coup Kooks" are going to get their bell rung sooner rather than later.

The TSE should have had a good day today . . GDP up 1.3% - can't even go into a recession for another six months.

Except the Coalition of the Swilling said they would roll back the $50b tax cuts - can you say STIMULUS! and spend $30 Billion on gawd knows what favorite Ontario and Quebec dying industry.

So it boils down to a $20 billion dollar tax increase, a government revenue windfall.

Now we know the price of paying off the Bloc and Quebec to support the greed and naked power lust of of the Liberals and the Dippers.

The price of treason . . . $20 Billion

An excellent case has now been made to enact a Republic of Canada Act

An act that would,

1. Draft a new Constitution to enshrine the citizen as sovereign and the Government of Canada as subservient and directly answerable to the people.
2. Abolish permanently the Queen and her role, Royal Prerogative and Inherent Powers and the role of Governor General, and replace the position with a President of Canada.
3. The President becomes the Commander in Chief of the Canadian Armed Forces.
4. The President becomes Chief Executive of the Government of Canada.
5. Prime Minister becomes the Chairman of the House who is selected by House members.
6. Chairman of the Senate is selected by Senators.
7. All bills originating in Parliament require the Presidents signature.
8. The President has line-item veto power.
9. The role of Prime Minister and his Cabinet would now be absorbed by the Presidents office.
10. Senators stand for election.
11. Judges stand for election.
12. Premiers stand for election.
13. Lieutenant Governors get abolished

That should take care of this coalition nonsense.

The TSX is down and so is the Dow. I suspect the profit-takers are moving in to generate some cash from last week's rise. Even so, I can't imagine the propsect of Canada being ruled by a leftist junta is going to help our investment portfolios.

kpd - how does the president get in office? Election? how?

Oh, no, a Toronto Red Star poll going horribly wrong:

Do think a Liberal-NDP coalition with Bloc support would lead to good government?
Yes 950 40%
No 1335 56%
Don't know 81 3%

(And those layers of fact checkers seem to have missed a "you".)

President stands for election too. He nominates Cabinet members and House gets to vet the process just like the US.

And the world will laugh at what we squandered.

"And the last couple of months of stock market declines were whose fault?
Left wingers in the United States who decided that money should be loaned to people who never should have been given loans.
Posted by: Mississauga Matt

Very nice M.Matt. Most on the left fail to realize this very obvious and simple fact.

On another thought...I do love the stimulus of the coalition of the pathetic....$50 billion in taxes for corps.

small dead lberia.

The natural end result of socialism:

Pervert/psychotic lberia snuffed by Nikky Khruschev:

Lavrenti Beria Executed: December 23rd, 1953
He soon succeeded Yezhov, who was shot on Stalin's orders, apparently at Beria's prompting. Beria, who went on to run the Soviet network of slave-labour ...
www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&se=gglsc&d=5002061094

You mission, Gilles, should you chose to accept it is to give support to Taliban Jack and foreign citizens (French) Dion and (American) Ignatieff as well as the usual failed communists to bring down the country of Canada. We know you have had moist dreams of this day and were almost convinced it would never happen. Rest assured that even though the cash from Ontario will slow down the cash from the west will increase as Saskatchewan will now join Alberta in paying tithe to Quebec. As usual this message will self destruct (As will this plot), good luck Gilles.

The Liberals, most of all, will lose big time medium and long term in this putsch.

In a few months Harper will get a mulligan for another shot at a majority with a hyper-motivated base supplemented by an influx of blue Liberals.

If fighting breaks out amongst the Libs on who will lead the coup (as appears may be happening) getting 11+ floor crossers is a real possibility.

"The President becomes the Commander in Chief of the Canadian Armed Forces."

And when Pres. Jack Layton has the 10-man Army wearing pink-tutu's and invading Alberta to stop the oil sands, then what?

The TSX is down by a greater percentage than the DOW even though there was a good GDP report that came out today. The political instability is causing at least part of the fall.

Harper needs to remove the GG if he thinks she will go rogue, introduce the budget, have it voted down, and call an election so this Marxist whore will be put in its place.

Imagine for a minute this scenario.

Liberals are just elected to a minority government. The Reform and Conservative parties overthrow the government and take power.

Wonder what the NDP/Liberals would have said had this occured?

If this coalition goes ahead as planned, I am giving serious consideration to ditching my investments in the Canadian market.

With the NDP looking covetously at the oil patch, I can't see how investments there are going to do anything but get much cheaper over the next year or so.

No matter what happens on Monday, political stability and certainty is something we can kiss goodbye for a year or more. Financial markets don't like that sort of thing because it leads to economic uncertainty.

I suspect many investors already agree with me. At this point, more uncertainty is the only thing we can really be certain of.

If(heaven forbid)the coalition gets to govern. It is without a doubt that the Liberals and N.D.P. will be in a constant clash for whose ideas are the choice to implement. Not to mention the Bloc who want Quebec to be the decision makers. It will be chaos,big time. Not to mention the press we will get on the world stage. If it must go ahead let the people decide we can think about it around our Christmas celebrations. Dona J

It happens that some people are tempted by thousands of dollars, but $1.95? Who would thought Jack Layton could be that greedy?

...and Dion so self-deluded in butchering Liberal party.

I woke up today so mad and so worried.
I live in Harper's riding afterall.

The only solution would be another election 'to end all elections'.

If the Bloc is not an official part of the coalition, all this talk is nonsense, PERIOD. There cannot be a coalition that has less seats combined then another party.

Next Monday will see an amazing number of 24 hour flus or migraines as Liberals excuse themselves from this disgraceful episode. I like the Nat Post suggesting that Iggy is very cool to the whole idea and that he has support of 77 Liberal MPs in the leadership race.

Reading the comments on the Globe and Mail website. Big mistake, cuz now my blood pressure is up. All the wankers from Bloor St and the Beaches are cooing with pleasure. Evil Harper is getting his comeuppance. So a Toronto coup ensues. What a country....wish I'd emigrated to Australia when I had the chance...

If this coalition goes, do the lieberals and dippers shut down their respective parties or is that their backup to maintain their pensionable time at the trough???

tranio,

National Post says Iggy is actually at the epicentre of putsch attempt.

But your comment makes one wonder whether the Rae and Leblanc supporters, who have just had their cabinet/entitlement futures snuffed, might not show up to vote.

Please vote in the Globe & Mail poll.

[Star Poll]
thestar.com Poll

Do think a Liberal-NDP coalition with Bloc support would lead to good government?

Yes 1117 39%
No 1620 57%
Don't know 96 3%

Yep, that bastion of conservative thought, the Tranna Star, comes out massively NOT supporting the Faustian coalition. The triumvirate of Faust looks like it is getting its horns clipped in mighty short order. A jar of halo-polisher may be in order for this blackened plot.

Thus 57% believe the Faustian coalition will result in BAD government.

Next we will hear the coalition of Faust express contrition and all get religion.

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

Frankenstein Battalion
2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)
Knecht Rupprecht Division
Hans Corps
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North

[ “The turmoil generated by the uncertainty of these events in combination with the unknown of a new three-party coalition could prompt flight-to-safety flows in Canada,” said TD Securities Eric Lascelles in a research note. “The longer-term implications are far too uncertain to speculate about now, and rely not just upon whether Canada gets a new government but also on how any new hypothetical coalition government would govern, and how long it would last.” ] globeinvestor

Has any of the western premiers been heard from?

If I'm the premier of AB I'm promising a referendum on soveriegnty to be held within 6 months of the leftard coalition.

It's time to get Toronto's attention. (I say this as someone who lives 200km west of Toronto. And no, I can't stand them either. In the rest of Ontario we refer to it as hog town.)

Att: Comrade Commissars and Snags.

Here are the Orders of The Day from Party HQ, aka THE CANADIAN PRESS CORPS.
Aux Armes, Citoyens: Slay the 'arper Dragon.
Onward, Comrades. Into the Future; faster, faster.
Signed, Napoleon Dionky.
...-

"Liberal-NDP officials meet to resolve coalition snags
By Bruce Cheadle, THE CANADIAN PRESS

OTTAWA - The Liberals and NDP have agreed to a $30-billion stimulus package as part of a tentative coalition deal to oust the Harper government.

A senior Liberal source says the deal does not include any repeal of corporate tax cuts as the NDP demanded in the election campaign.

The source says it does involve an economic advisory panel of experts, including Paul Martin, John Manley Frank McKenna, and Roy Romanow.

NDP adviser Ed Broadbent says the deal will include substantial aid to the troubled auto and forestry industries.

The NDP would get 25 per cent of the seats in a new coalition cabinet under the arrangement.

If all opposition parites(sic) sign off on the agreement, the next step is for the opposition to vote down the government and ask Gov. Gen. Michaelle Jean to let them form a new administration."
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/2008/12/01/7590456-cp.html

BTW, STOPIGGY.

Oil drops below $50.

Gold down $50/oz.

DOW down 5%. Europe, Asia similarly.

After last week's rally, with some institutional window dressing late friday, a down day was inevitable anyway.

Contribution of political shenanigans to the tsx drop? Zero to nil.

Prorogue parliament. Stack the senate and appoint all unfilled judicial appointments so the leftard pretenders can't. Bonnie Prince Stephie must be crushed.

Yes it's time for the Western Premiers to speak up.

Don't put too much "stock" in what TSX is doing today. I'm hearing lots about the Grit dream team, but haven't heard squat from Bloc. Does the 2.5 year no election clause include written confirmation from them? Without that, only the worst case (I believe not) of GG willing dupe would yield minority coalition power.

Think of it. A minority coalition, where the ruling party still needs outside support to pass legislation (given 100% certainty Tories will vote against their "stimulus" package, also known as giving the economy a bennie. Or perhaps a whole bottle).

Add this to it. The second party in the "coalition" is separatist, and even if one is willing to overlook this, it still means that only voters in Quebec can decide the fate of this minority coalition.

The junta, sorry coalition, plans to ask the GG for power based on their argument their regime would be more stable than the present. Without written assurance from Bloc they wouldn't vote against the new government on confidence for at least two years, the GG would have to be a partisan hack to give them the opportunity.

My view is she will find a way to throw it back at them all, if it gets that far. While she may refuse Harper's request for dissolution, she could still reject the alternative if she doesn't believe it will be stable. Then she sends them back to parliament, says work it out or she will grant dissolution.

In late Jan 09 that is. If it gets that far Harper will have no choice but to prorogue parliament. The coalition and the media will howl, so let them. Don't you see it's procedural, so anything goes; isn't that how it works?

Then we will see. My gut feel is Harper will go as far as to roll over and play dead, without compromising economically, to try to mollify the coalition. Then we will have a election, and the voters will be really p****d off at everybody.

And, except in Quebec, we will be back to a two party system, with the broke Liberals running their dipper friendly dream team (we're trying to save Canada, one $1.95 vote at a time, but now not each? No wait a minute).

Frankly, I think Harper will hoop them on major issue of the day, economics. Canadians who thought they were in the safe harbour of minority, will then find themselves in a perfect storm of neo Liberals. That, IMHO, would be remedied at the polls.

Canada is in good shape relatively speaking, and our resources and know how are in demand. We are also seen as a stable country, and that makes a difference.

If this gambit works, that can change. Its success will set many precedents, but the most damning will be to invalidate any future minority government, where other parties can quickly defeat the election victor in the House to seize power. This is inherently unstable government, especially given the Quebec/separatist element, with frequent elections and parliamentary turmoil.

Look, results speak for themselves; Harper has erred on this one. But, was that a catalyst or convenient opportunity? Don't Liberals realize they are playing craps with the voter and the economy by inviting corporation haters like Jack Layton and Gilles Duceppe to the table? They're already talking about about increasing corporate taxes by $50 billion.

Seems to me they've already bought into Layton oil companies and banks bad argument. The only problem is they take most of that money from small businesses, whose owners are already forced to pay income taxes on their earnings, after paying income taxes on their effort's earnings. This kind of economic illiteracy is rampant in this coalition, and does not portend well for a properly measured response in these times.

Is this what WE want?

It's down 760 now...

Shamrock

You do know the GG's history, right? French CBC, Liberal appointee, separatist...

The GG IS a partisan hack. Duceppe's partisan hack.

Beyond its short term outcome, the current political mess has revealed two truths.

1. Anyone who thinks proportional representation would solve this country's problems is delusional. It would ensure permanent chaos, much like what we are seeing now. The effect in Canada would be much worse than, say, in Italy, since the Italians are at least used to it and don't have a separatist faction to accommodate.

2. Canada has become close to ungovernable. The regional and ideological differences have become so entrenched that any kind of general consensus is almost impossible.

In my opinion, the only viable solution is for Quebec to leave Confederation, thereby permitting both cultural groups to pursue their destinies without the usual extortion and grossly distorted political maneuvers.

Barring that, the west (and perhaps small town Ontario) should go it alone, leaving the decrepit east to manage its dying industries and unsustainable social programs as best it can. Should the coalition actually materialize I would expect this option to be widely supported.

I never thought it would come to this, but unless a great many people in this country suddenly come to their senses I think that's the way we are headed.

jim303

Yes, take us with you. Anything west of guelph is good people. We hate Toronto, too!!!

(this is sad. I'm actually whimpering and begging. Don't leave us in trudeaupian hell!)

And when Pres. Jack Layton has the 10-man Army wearing pink-tutu's and invading Alberta to stop the oil sands, then what?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_iH1GhM2j8

Imagine! The New York Stock Exchange is SO concerned about affairs in Canada ... it has PLUNGED to the same degree as the TSE! (not)

All the wankers from Bloor St and the Beaches are cooing with pleasure.
999 Queen Street East is closer to the mark.

Warwick, "We hate Toronto, too!!!"

Can we join the trek?

Having said this many times:
*"But westward, look, the land is bright."
(*H/T AH Clough)

But, we remain in Ontario to fight for Canada, "The True North strong and free".

"Say not the struggle nought availeth".

It is time to float my idea again. The winner of each riding receives the $1.95 or some other amount as the elected winner’s annual salary. If you don’t like any of the candidates, withholding your vote will count for something. The elected winner will work for next to nothing in your riding. The more popular the candidate the higher the annual earnings.

Pass it on.

Kate,

This is nonsense. Sorry, but I'll call it like I see it.

Sure the TSX dropped like a stone today, but so did the DOW. They're both falling off the sucker's rally of last week, which should only be expected in light of dismal economic data to the south.

Don't conflate everything with our messed up political system. It just makes you lose credibility when you do.

Gord

I fear for my country. If you western folks bail out (and I don't blame you), how bout taking us Northwestern Ontario folks along for the ride. Always felt more Manitoba/Saskatchewan than downtown hogtown.

I fear for my country. If you western folks bail out (and I don't blame you), how bout taking us Northwestern Ontario folks along for the ride. Always felt more Manitoba/Saskatchewan than downtown hogtown.

I fear for my country. If you western folks bail out (and I don't blame you), how bout taking us Northwestern Ontario folks along for the ride. Always felt more Manitoba/Saskatchewan than downtown hogtown.

Who's the new guy..sorry for the triple post

Keep on spinning ...

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/W/WALL_STREET?SITE=IADES&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

In the news conference Gilles Duceppe could not say Canada once! Enough said.

Thanks , Jack and Stephanie.
If your little friends campaign in the next election - don't knock on my door , unless you have a cheque in hand to make up for my pension fund losses.
I may set my dogs on them , although disinfecting their mouths after they have tasted your rancid , lazy , useless flesh might be beyond my budget now.

Welcome to New France. The plains of Abraham never happened. Remember Chrétien saying to the European Union. That it would have been better for the French to have won? Next will be a Unilingual French only Bureaucracy run by Quebec while they ransack the Nation.
as a Westerner its time I say we go as fast as we can press Red Ed to move.

Sam S. I think even journalists are shocked at the audacity of the coalition "leaders" who presume to take over the running of the government, without a mandate from the people of Canada. Nobody voted for the COALITION led by Dion and in bed with the separatiste leader and the strutting Jack Layton.

Dion has dual citizenship of both Canada and France.

The Governor General's husband is a separatiste.

It was clear from the results of our recent election that Canadians DON'T WANT DION as our leader.

This scenario is just TOO bizarre!

If this travesty happens can the provinces withold federal tax money from Ottawa? Can businesses refuse to send taxes to what is clearly an illegitimate government that does not have the best interests of the entire country at heart but rather Quebec and Toronto and backroom power brokers and labour unions?

Layton admitted on the tape that he has been in close consultation with labour union leaders.

Can we as the people file charges of treason when a group of people who refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of Canada or the Monarchy are then in power over us all?

And, how can the BLOC even be part of the Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition when they do not acknowlege the Queen?

Any legal beagles out there who can give some ideas???

And then you have that moron John McCallum saying that the stock drop has nothing to do with the coalition announcement.

Oh really? Then, pray tell, what caused it you nimrod? Honestly, these people are pathetic.

So - let me get this straight: Dion becomes PM, then a few months later after the convention we have another new PM (Ignatief???) neither of which gained auhtority from a general election? AND a party dedicated to the destruction of the country has veto power for everything??? My take on it: IT'S TIME TO SAY GOODBYE.

As someone who lives in the USA, but has a bank account at a Canadian owned bank, I will close my account there and open one somewhere else if this deal goes through.

I am so happy that my meagre taxes from my small business and personal income will help bail out the auto industry and their $72.00 an hour employees and CEOs Heaven forbid they have to get another job and live on what my family does.

I bank at the Bank of Nova Scotia. It is time to move it to the Alberta Treasdury Branch or local Credit Unions.

The Troika*.

"The Socialist, the Separatist, and the Citizen of France**.
...-

"Opposition agrees to coalition with Dion as PM

In a historic political move, the leaders of the Liberals, NDP and the Bloc Quebecois signed a formal agreement Monday to co-operate as a coalition government for at least 18 months."
(ctv)
...-

*"NKVD troika. The word became notorious in the Soviet Union during the Stalinist era: troikas replaced the normal legal system"
www.answers.com/topic/troika
**H/T Bourque

Down almost 10% today. hmmm, I wonder why that was?

Hey, I forgot that. Dijon is a French citizen!! He is now working to destroy Canada! Traitor isn't the word; he is enemy.

BTW, you can register and comment on the Governor General's blog at

http://www.ecoutedescitoyens.gg.ca/en/blogs/rideau_hall/194

Maybe she would like to hear how you feel about things.

A LIB-ND coalition propped up by the Quebec Block is not a government. The separatists would have to be IN the government for it to be a government.

Lavalin, Quebecor, Toronto Dominion Bank,Power Corp, Liberal Party, are all eagerly awaiting that $30 billion "stimulus" stolen from Alberta and working stiffs like me.

mcbeaner, you're very welcome to move to BC. Join the surge!

AtlanticJim is too cantankerous, even for us.

WE ARE LIVING IN A CANANA REPUBLIC!!

I have left-leaning friends who are very angry about this -- they accepted the vote of the people who chose PM Harper.

Okay, put me out of my misery. Is this really DO-ABLE? Does anybody believe this wasn't in the works long before it blew up? What a nightmare. Banana republic or what?

If this goes through, the "coalition of swillers" will not be able to avoid an election for ever, assuming a country still exists. They will be anihilated for playing bum-boy to the spearatists. The GG will be persona non-grata in her own country; and Dijon will only be welcome in his country, France.

Hey Gord,

Read 'em and weep:

"The prospect that the Conservative minority government could be ousted likely had some impact on the selloff."

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20081201/world_markets_081201/20081201?hub=TopStories

Well, as citizen of both Canada and Australia, I do have options, however, I don't like to have my hand forced.

Criticism of PMSH is unfounded - it's just that no rational person ever realized the depths to which the libs and dippers would sink to in the effort to take power.

Note that I don't include the bloc in that. I am a resident of QC and have been for 35 years. I love QC and I always will, but it would be madness to allow the Bloc to have access to your bank account at this (or any other) time.

You will note that we Quebecers are not going to let the PQ have any say over our economy for the forseeable future.

(Disclosure: I have already voted and I did not vote for either liar Charest or the PQ).

I do believe it is time for us to go our separate ways: the west, Ontario, QC and the rest. No equalization, no GG, no coalitions, no NEP. Sink or swim - I'll go where the water's fine!

If the bloc is not an offical part of the coalition of the swilling, just a sidebar understanding, then the Liars cannot show they can form a government. If they are, then there is no way the GG can accept them in teh government. Except she is a Liberal and her husband a separatist.

The Liars will have to do a lot of fast talking to avoid the obvious.

This is unreal.

Very upset in this household.
Like declaring the winning the race fair and square, and then having the winner hand the prize over to the losers, forcibly.
Deluded way of thinking, just deluded.
We won't be recognizing the unelected governing body until we vote again.
Banana state indeed.

So now we know why Dion was in no hurry to step down, he knew this "coup d'état" was going to happen ...

PSAC backs Cabal de Trois: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/weather/psac+calls+members+back+coalition/1015156/story.html

Wow, there's a shocker, eh?!

Ugh I just went to the GG's website. The Queens representative huh. Looks more like a web page for much music promo.

The sell off today is sympathetic to events in China, however I suspect that to some degree Canada has been a safe haven repository. With the largest one day decline now on record money that once considered this a safe place is having second thoughts.

Should this coalition become a reality I fear that you will see a far more significant run. Essentially what is left is hard American assets.

I am amazed in this day and age cheap political tricks such as this are being pulled out to destabilize the country and this will certainly do that.

Of what does this remind you?

ALL HEADS:
You're a Knight of the Round Table?
ROBIN:
I am.
LEFT HEAD:
In that case, I shall have to kill you.
MIDDLE HEAD:
Shall I?
RIGHT HEAD:
Oh, I don't think so.
MIDDLE HEAD:
Well, what do I think?
LEFT HEAD:
I think kill him.
RIGHT HEAD:
Oh, let's be nice to him.
LEFT HEAD:
Oh, shut up.
ROBIN:
Perhaps I could--
LEFT HEAD:
And you. Oh, quick! Get the sword out. I want to cut his head off!
RIGHT HEAD:
Oh, cut your own head off!
MIDDLE HEAD:
Yes, do us all a favour!
LEFT HEAD:
What?
RIGHT HEAD:
Yapping on all the time.
MIDDLE HEAD:
You're lucky. You're not next to him.
LEFT HEAD:
What do you mean?
MIDDLE HEAD:
You snore!
LEFT HEAD:
Oh, I don't. Anyway, you've got bad breath.
MIDDLE HEAD:
Well, it's only because you don't brush my teeth.
RIGHT HEAD:
Oh, stop bitching and let's go have tea.
LEFT HEAD:
Oh, all right. All right. All right. We'll kill him first and then have tea and biscuits.
MIDDLE HEAD:
Yes.
RIGHT HEAD:
Oh, not biscuits.
LEFT HEAD:
All right. All right, not biscuits, but let's kill him anyway.
ALL HEADS:
Right!
MIDDLE HEAD:
He buggered off.
RIGHT HEAD:
So he has. He's scarpered.

Omar Khadr will finally be coming home, the Khadr Klan will rejoice and spawn a few more little terrorist bastards to go off and kill around the globe. That's only one small bonus for Canadians from this troika offering up their unasked for services to run the ship of state.
Goddamned bastards, sorry but I'm really worried for the country I've lived in for many years, we have to take them down, stop them, by taking to the streets as they do in countries we see on TV in far off lands. This is not the Canada our people forged and fought for.

Today the stock Market reacted, if tomorrow we see another slide we know doomsday is closer than the MSM and their troika takeover bums think.
Trouble is we all have to suffer the fools until sanity emerges, hopefully not too late.

Anyone know why there's a dire need for a stimulus package when Canadian auto sales are up?

As for the forest industry, if Layton is part of Dion's cabinet will he re-open the softwood lumber agreement as he promised and lay the boots to the industry?

Why is everyone so upset? Just sit back and watch the left self-destruct - they'll get blamed for the economy and when they inevitably face the electorate, the CPC will be able to point at the left's mismanagement... It's actually hilarious to behold - liberals and NDP so keen to take control during a slide into recession. Any sane politico would let the CPC wear it.

Harper, you're a genius!

I'm willing to bet khretien is behind this whole mess. CPAC has question period on, and steffi hasn't said a single thing, yet.

The Canadian MSM has said this:

"In a historic political move, the leaders of the Liberals, NDP and the Bloc Quebecois signed a formal agreement Monday to co-operate as a coalition government" (ctv)
...-

By this signed agreement, three (3) Canadian political parties have died.

The historic political move this day is:

Conservative Prime Minister Harper has destroyed/slain three (3) Canadian political parties, to wit,
the Liberal Party of Canada, the New Democratic Party of Canada, and the Bloc Quebecois.

The left in Canada is now one socialist party.

Bravo, PM Harper.

I have contacted Douglas Christie in Victoria B.C.
asking him to comment on the socialist coalition cabal.
I received this email today and enclosing it with three paragraphs deleted simply for brevity, leaving in the essentials for any one wishing to contact the Western Block Party.
I live in Ontario, I have posted previously here and elsewhere my worst fears that the Layton, Dion, and Duceppe troika are essentially communists in heart and soul and I fear that Canada (should they become government) will be a communist state in all but name, making the option of a FREE, independent, (property rights entrnched} capitalist western state very appealing.

Joseph Molnar
..............................................

BY EMAIL

December 1, 2008

Dear Sirs/Madams:

I have had a number of inquiries from a number of people obviously concerned about the political crisis in Ottawa. This, in my opinion, is the logical outcome of a fundamentally flawed system. There is no way to rectify the problems that the Ottawa government has created and it is a waste of time for Western Canadians to continue to pour tax dollars into Ottawa in a corrupt and bankrupt system. Therefore, to those of you who are dismayed or concerned by what is going in Ottawa, I strongly urge you to do the following:

Join the Western Block Party;

Gather a group of Westerners who believe that Western Canada as an independent nation is a better option;

Form a Western Block Constituency Association and hold meetings to discuss what should be done in your area;

Once sufficient numbers appear to exist, see if you can contact us to arrange a meeting in a central location with a number of others in your area, so that we can have a successful public meeting to discuss these matters and I can answer any questions you may have at that time.

If you have any other intervening questions, I would be happy to address them by email.

>snip

>snip

>snip

Thank you for your support and attention. Please keep in mind that unless your support manifests itself in some sort of monetary assistance, this exchange of information could amount to nothing but the ventilation of frustration. We cannot allow this moment of understanding to pass without concrete, constructive, lawful, political action.

Yours for the independence of Western Canada,


Douglas H. Christie


Douglas H. Christie
Barrister, Solicitor & Notary Public
810 Courtney Street
Victoria, B.C. V8W 1C4
Tel: 250-888-3410 or 250-385-1022
Fax: 250-479-3294

gellen: "When the jackal was pumping out the ads before the election I wondered where the money was coming from. Now I'd really like to know."

Any bets on Power Corp? No wonder Taliban Jack, Bobo Rae, the Iggster, Little Dion, and Deceiving Duceppe were looking so sickeningly smug during the election campaign--aside from the fact that they were getting maximum positive coverage from their cheerleaders in the MSM. (Jeesh, not only do they expect free "ads" from their lapdogs in the media, they also want to rob the taxpayers for financial support to their waning parties ...)

Methinks these stooges have bitten off far more than they can chew--and I hope they choke on it. I'm sure as He** going to fight tooth and nail any way I can to stop this travesty of democracy. A pox on their houses: like He** they've got the best interests of Canadians at heart: only CERTAIN Canadians. Just watch our tax monies drip throught the coalition's fingers--and all of the new taxes they'll need to levy to keep their constituents' happy.

And they accuse the CPC of spending too much?? We ain't seen nothin' yet.

I love the comments on stuff like this at the leftie rag sheets.

"Well, it's obviously not the liberal's fault...!!!"

Very good article by Micheal Bliss in today's NP. He asks,

"How long would a Liberal-NDP-Bloc coalition or partnership last?

My guess is that it would collapse within a week -- Parliament would be chaotic, backbenchers could not be controlled."

Further on:

"There would have to be an election within weeks or months. Coalitions face monumental problems fighting elections because of duplications, conflicts and animosities at the grassroots and organizational levels, and this one would almost certainly go down in flames."

I've read the text of the agreement which lays the foundation for the coalition. It strikes me as a vague and naively optimistic recipe for constant infighting amongst the participants. A proposal for the "infrastructure" slush fund is limited to a handful of talking points, for instance. For a program which is rumored to cost in the neighborhood of $30 billion, I can only imagine the logistical nightmare of hashing this out amongst not one but three different caucuses.

How all this spending will be funded is, for whatever reason, left completely unsaid. Raise the GST? Raise income or corporate taxes? Cut what spending, and where? Apparently funding levels for "cultural" matters are to be restored to where they were before the nasty Tories took over, so that's not an option. If these guys are seriously thinking that they can just address these complex issues as they pop up, look out for plenty of fireworks. Getting out the party "whip" won't work here.

The document is typical of a pact that was cobbled together in hours, not months. Given the scope of the issues at hand, it is absurd to think that you can even come close to covering all the bases in this short a time. The circus has clearly come to town, only this time all Canadians are going to be unwilling participants in the trapeze show.

With news that the Commies will overturn the 50B tax break to corporations, you bet it took a dive. Economic-minded people know the NDP in power means bad news for the economy, full stop.

LindaL: "The appointment of the 'actress', rather than a statesman (woman) with a strong record of leadership in Canada was a dire mistake for which we may now pay the consequences."

I vividly remember where I was on that August day in 2005 when I read the announcement of Prime Minister Paul Martin's appointment of Michaelle Jean as Governor-General of Canada. I had a premonition of doom. 'Looks like I wasn't just being dramatic.

What the ... ?

Canada,

Head of State - Queen of Canada - Unelected Foreigner
Head of Government - Gov Gen - Unelected Foreigner
Chief Executive - Prime Minister - Unelected – Appointed by the Queen
Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces - Queen of Canada - Unelected Foreigner Federal Senate – Senator - Unelected - Appointed by the Queen
House - MP – Directly and democratically elected
Head of State Provincial - Lieutenant Governor - Appointed by the Queen
Chief Executive Provincial - Premier - Appointed by the Queen
Provincial Senate - Senator - Appointed by the Queen
Provincial House - MPP - Directly and democratically elected
Inalienable Rights of Citizenry - Non-existent – Only the Queen fully and Titled nobles enjoy most of these rights.
Private Property (Real Property) – Only Titled nobles may actually hold land titles.
Power Flow God - Queen (Sovereign) – Government - People

USA

Head of State - President – Elected
Head of Government - President – Elected
Chief Executive - President – Elected
Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces - President – Elected
Federal Senate – Senator - Elected
House - Congressman –Elected
Head of State ( State) - Governor - Elected
Chief Executive (State) - Governor - Elected
State Senate - Senator - Elected
State House - Elected
Inalienable Rights of Citizenry – Yes - Codified in the Constitution
Private Property (Real Property) – Yes –US citizens are sovereign and indeed enjoy inalienable rights to own title to land.
Power Flow God - Citizen (Sovereign) – Town – County – State – Federal Government

Just watching BNN for a while tonight, there's some very worried guys on tonight. Consensus is

A)The GG will be on -very- shaky legal ground if she doesn't call an election. That's the constitutional directive here, defeat the government with a no-confidence vote, call an election.

B) A $30 billion dollar pork explosion of "economic stimulus" would be essentially useless short term and potentially disastrous long term. Furthermore money directed to forestry and cars will be money piled up in the street and burned.

C) The mention of Jack Layton as Deputy Prime Minister was uniformly terrifying. Even the Globe and Mail guy thought that was terrifying.

Me, I already buried my gold. They can do what they want, I'm going to sit back and watch them all go to hell in a hand basket.

fight the three shamigos:

http://www.rallyforcanada.ca/

Here's the deal:

The Bloc wants to destabilize Canada, if not cripple it, in order to create the perfect condition for another referendum. This time positive.

The NDP wants to be the official 'Labour' opposition. In order to do that, they have to replace the Liberals.

The Liberals are too drunk on past glory as the 'Natural Governing Party' versus the reality of their declining status into an irrelevant rump party, to see the forest for the trees.

A perfect storm. I love it. Let it play out.

Let me see if I got this straight: The CPoC, with 143 seats, duly elected by Canadians to govern this country (with increased voter support from the previous election no less!), represented in ALL parts of Canada, from coast-to-caost, save for Newfoundland, becomes the Offical Opposition? And given the fact that they oppose the agenda of this so-called coalition, will have no legislative power in parliament while a separatist party, which ran no candidates outside a single province, will have REAL power to get things done in parliament? How can that be justified?! This is CRIMINAL!

The RAPE of our democracy. No two ways about it.

Deluded is the Taliban Jackal; Professor Dijon and Captain Duplicitous are laughing their arses off.

Joe Molnar: thanks for publishing the contact information for Doug Christie as I'll be joining the Western Block party as soon as I can find my checkbook.

I can't think of anything that has gotten me this angry in some time. I was disappointed in the Canadian election result, but thought that things were settled for a while. If the traitorous troika take power without an election, then all forms of resistance are appropriate. Some things I'll be implementing immediately such as not buying anything made in eastern Canada and joining a separatist political party. Future actions will depend on what happens over the next week or two.

If Alberta decides to separate, then the interior of BC will likely split from the coastal moonbats and join Alberta. Having lived in both Vancouver and the interior I find that they're two different worlds and I much prefer the interior. One thing that Alberta could do now would be to kick out the RCMP and start its own provincial police force to start reducing federal control of the west. Time to find out where I've got those "let the eastern bastards freeze in the dark" bumper stickers stashed away.

Note: I know there are quite a few conservatives in places like Ontario and maybe the best thing would be to split off Toronto and Ottawa and have the rural parts of Ontario join with a free-enterprise and freedom oriented west.

loki--Ottawa is one of the bluest regions of the country, voting primarily Conservative.

The people in Ottawa wouldn't want to be lumped in with Toronto. Trust me. I'm a south-eastern Ontario gal.

If Stephane wants the Parliament buildings, he can keep them. But the rest of Ottawa? Who says it wants to be part of the east?

Personally, I'm thinking the Okanagan looks like a pretty good place to move to right now.

After watching the smug smiles on the 3 Stooges after their coup d'etat announcement, one can only conclude that
no sheep is safe tonight.

The damage is done,the notion of a unified Canada is gone forever.If given the chance the GG will install the coalition,that is in the bag.The country will slowly break apart.I doubt that Alberta will stand idly by while some Eastern bastards with no mandate drains their treasure to support whatever remains of the manufacturing base in Ontario and Quebec all the while continuing to make 'equalization'payments.No matter the outcome of this latest powerplay this country is effectively finished,and the East-West divide cannot be bridged.

I'm tired of the MSM, particularly the CBC and Newman, constantly invoking the 1985 Rae-Peterson coalition as some sort of analogy to justify this RAPE of the democratic process. It's NONSENSE and the reason is quite simple! The two party's which formed that coalition minority, the Liberals and Rae-led NDP, ran candidates in ALL parts of Ontario so that if the people disapproved of their time in power they could hold each of those parties to account at the ballot box in the subsequent election. Now, seeing as how legislation CAN'T be passed without support from the BQ, how can Canadians outside Quebec, such as myself, hold the BQ accountable for the decisions they make? Simply put, we can't.

Legislative power given to a party that you and I can NEVER hold to account - THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED! It meets the criteria for a dictatorship!

100000 PO'd cons converging on Ottawa to show our disapproval may do the trick to change some minds, and if not maybe we could get a little more forcefull, like put our 4X4's to good use!!!

Bwahahahahahahaha...Love it.It is 6:37 PM in Edmonton.Just phoned a Yank lawyer.Guess what??? Myself and the better half can quailify as political refugees in the States if the coup d'etat goes through.Uh.And who woulda thunk I kept all my savings and investments in Yankee bucks for just this moment.Now. What is the name of the new country going to be? How about the NEW SOVIET REPUBLIC.

When is someone in the MSM going to ask Duceppe this...

"Mr Duceppe, how do you feel about being given the power to pass legislation on behalf of ALL CANADIANS when you didn't run candidates outside Quebec? What do you say to Canadians outside Quebec who may not agree with legislation that's only able to pass with your party's consent?"

Someone please play devil's advocate and, if you were an adviser to Duceppe, answer that in a way that doesn't make him look contemptuous of the democratic process.

Note: the above questions should also be asked of Dion and Layton. I'd be very interested to hear the reply from each of them, one that's given with a straight answer and doesn't veer off into a "Harper's to blame" reply.

RALLY FOR CANADA!!!

http://www.rallyforcanada.ca/

E-mail the GG:

info@gg.ca

It's insane that the Bloc have a veto on government spening. Imagine the pork that's going to go there? I have a comic on it:

http://dailysaltshaker.blogspot.com/2008/12/important-member-of-our-new-government.html

Morgan,

The other HUGE difference with that event in Ontario was that the premier wrote in his letter to the LG that he thought the opposition should give it a try. Norman Spector covered this in length this morning. You can listen to it here: http://cknwam.corusradionetwork.com/dynamic/dynamic_audiovault_process.asp?dt=20081201_10

What will GG say, if asked. My take/spin on this:

Statement from Her Excellency, Michaelle Jean, Governor General of Canada:

dated: January 31, 2009

Now that the government has been defeated in confidence, I am in receipt of letters from the Conservative government, the two leaders of the proposed coalition, and from the Honourable Gilles Duceppe, leader of the Bloc Quebecois.

I have met with the Prime Minister. At that meeting he told he that it was his intention to dissolve parliament. If I acceded then he would resign and call a federal election.

I decided to defer my decision until I met with the coalition leaders.

I have also met with Messrs Dion and Layton, in which they assured me they could command the confidence of Parliament, through their coalition agreement and that with Mr Duceppe, where he agreed he would not defeat the new government for at least one year, with two budgets presented.

Mr Harper makes a compelling case for dissolution, and it is a rare event for the Governor General to refuse assent for such. However, I note we just had a general election on 14 Oct, just two and half months ago. If he cannot command the confidence of Parliament, then I am honour bound to consider if any other parties, or combinations thereof, can.

For that reason I deferred my decision on this matter until I could meet with the opposition, which I did.

My first and only concern is the stability of parliament. If is not my function to infer what voters may have meant on 14 Oct 08 when they cast their ballot for this or that candidate and party. That is a political matter.

I was assured that this coalition could command the confidence of parliament. This would not be the first time a combination of parties have been granted government without benefit of a general election. While that option is within my purview, I must admit trepidation to grant the opposition request for the following reasons:

1. The proposed coalition has less seats than the present government, and requires the agreement of the Bloc Quebecois. History has shown these agreements can be broken, that these agreements tend to very unstable. What possible good can come from denying electorate a choice in this matter, if an election is necessitated soon afterwards anyway?

2. Is the possible instability and cost of another election enough to deny the Prime Minister's request? Has his government, newly elected this past Fall, been given enough to garner the support necessary to govern? Indeed, will my assent to the coalition position make parliament even more unstable? What are the consequences to Canadian democracy of such a decision on my part, given I am removed from politics and not part of the electoral process?

3. I must consider the unprecedented nature of the request by the coaliton proponents to not grant Mr Harper's request for coalition. Additionally, I am troubled by the fact the Bloc will not be part of the coalition, so will have much less interest than the other two parties that this session of parliament succeed. As I stated earlier, these types of agreements have been broken before, and have almost resulted in political crisis. I must emphasize again that my office must be, and be seen as, above politics.

I am also troubled that the Bloc Quebecois runs, and has elected members from only one province, but will hold the balance of power for the new coalition. I would be more comfortable with this notion if they were actually part of the government, rather than perhaps having interest in only the narrow constituency of Quebecers, one of ten provinces and three territories.

4. On precedent, I note that the last time the Governor General refused a dissolution request was in 1926. Then, Mackenzie King made the request, but only after not having secured the most seats in the 1925 general election. Such is not the case this time, with Mr Harper having garnered the most seats in parliament, albeit with a minority, but with only 12 seats short of a majority.

5. How can I be sure the coalition will be as stable with ability to pass legislation, as the present government? How can I in good consience trade the surety, albeit with cost, of a general election, with the granting of government to a potentially unstable minority coalition?

In light of the factors outlined above my decision is this. I will further defer my decision for 60 days. I expect all parliamentarians to act to make the legislature work, to give it a chance to do its job, to govern. If that fails, but until and unless the Bloc Quebecois become part of the governing coalition, with cabinet representation, preferrably with their leader as Deputy Prime Minister, and therefore with a true stake in that government, I will grant Mr Harper's request for dissolution.

Someone abover wrote: "I'm finding it fascinating that the left seems *not* to want a vote on it."

You've got to be kidding, right? If the left had their way there would never be such a thing as a 'vote'. Look what the left - both NDP and Bloc and to a lesser degree Liberal, are doing right now. Look at how the NDP would instantly do away with 'secret ballot' voting within unions.

Democracy is antithetical to socialism/communism.

Warwick wrote: "Yes, take us with you. Anything west of guelph is good people. We hate Toronto, too!!!"

Sorry Warwick, my friend. Geography is against you. However, the west is still a place of big, wide open spaces and friendly people with lot's of opportunity.

Our climate is better, our scenery (mostly) prettier and we believe in personal responsibility and less government. You're certainly welcome to join us.

Never will I stay under a coalition of the typre proposed. Never!

Premier Stemlach, said on radio today that he thinks cooler heads will prevail. I'm not so sure. Eddie is getting a wake up e-mail call from yours truly. Ejackulayton, was smug while he read from his song sheet. He said to PMSH "you have lost the confidence of the house, and we will be removing you from government as soon as possible" Plick, oh to catch him in a dark alley.

Here's the e-mail from the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers to it's members:

Quote "November 30, 2008

To: Canadian Locals and Staff
From: Dave Ritchie, GVP

After pushing an early $300 million election on Canadians this October, the Harper Conservatives have shown that they are incapable of governing. Instead of focusing on the needs of Canadians, reversing our economic decline, stimulating our economy and creating jobs, the Harper Conservatives have come forward with a cynical and partisan attack on workers and communities.

In response, there is a strong possibility that the minority Conservatives will be defeated in a confidence vote on December 8. A new coalition government would then be formed by the Liberals and New Democrats, with Bloc Quebecois support. This coalition, representing a majority of Canadians, is an opportunity to deal with the crisis and take back our government.

The Conservatives will no doubt mount a desperate campaign to cling to power. Over the next week, the Canadian Labour Congress will join with many other groups to mobilize support for the Coalition. There will be rallies in major centres, a public awareness campaign, and programs to ensure that Members of Parliament understand where the Canadian people stand.

I am asking you to assist in mobilizing IAM members to participate in this campaign to secure our future. The Canadian Office will be sending out more information in the next couple of days.

I look forward to your support and full participation

Dave Ritchie, GVP" Unquote

How is it possible that the GG's response to this matter is still in question? As ridiculous as it is that she personally has the power to decide on the aftermath of a non-confidence vote, it's even more ridiculous that she hasn't yet come out and clarified what her response WILL be!

Frankly, I hope there is a non-confidence vote, just so I can say that "I was there" when the Liberal party committed suicide.

Andy Canuck
I tried to vote "No" and got the following message.

"You've already voted, but here are the results anyway"

I had not voted before.
Maybe they don't like the results.

Yes 2587 39%

No 3676 56%

Don't know 230 3

I suppose that's why the DOw is down, too. They must really love Harper in New York.

The Package Stimulus Party cares little for free markets anyway...
Isn't this sinking in yet as the greatest Conservative event in Canadian history?
:)

Ron, it couldn't be more obvious.

The West cannot secede fast enough.

I've heard the term package stimulus 100 times at least since Friday. I mean really, how many times is the Package Stimulus Party going to tell us about how important a package stimulus is?

Don't count on this GG to do the right thing, she's bought and paid for and as crooked as all the other ELB's, eastern liberal bastards/bitches. BOUGHT AND PAID FOR.

The "stimulus coalition"

I GOT IT!

Shameless reporting on The National. Mansbridge offers the primer: "Can Stephen Harper's gov't be saved from the trash bin of history?"

Of course, not something that avoids the use of such an obvious pejorative descriptor like simply saying "defeated".

After some technical difficulties running the piece from Bonner, he finally gets to it after a commercial break. In her piece, Bonner piles on, saying, "Prentice stood to answer a question and was shouted down by the opposition with 'leader, leader'".

Then she adds for the viewer: "Note Harper's body language".

The next piece is done by Orminston, who focuses on the web aspect to this developing story. She goes to the CPoC website and shows that when you punch in your postal code, it gives you a list of radio stations to call in to to voice your complaints.

She concludes that segment with a sarcastic tone and says, "So much for unscripted talk radio."

One can only shake their head. Hopefully, this will all end up with Harper getting the last laugh, an election, a majority, and selling off this mouthpiece for the LPC.

My momma says that politics is like a box of chocolates...

:-)

Or:

"the Stimulation Separation Coalition"

So, where are the conspiracy theorists? A Liberal appointed GG with separatist ties and the government knows who has the guns.

PSAC will get its reward - from us after the next election!

So the Buck Ninety Five Coalition is going to bring down the Harper government for not running a large enough deficit after lambasting him for weeks for running a deficit?

Doesn't this latest political situation give new meaning: "Canada - it's not a real country anyway."

Simplest, most concise explanation I've seen to date
voanews.com/english/2008-12-02-voa2.cfm

the ndp is a callous and hungry group motivated by historically proven failed policies. the liberals are a bankrupt gang of poseurs. the bloc is a marginalized expression of political history. they are all private organizations funded by the taxpayer. this is all coming to an end.

thank goodness.

I think if you feel strongly about avoiding the painful state of being governed by Duceppe, Layton and Dion, you should probably write the governor general, as it is my understanding that the constitutional precedent, especially in this case, is murky, and that her decision may be swayed by public opinion.

I've written her the following, if you think I should add or take something out or have any other advice, let me know. Thanks:

To: Michelle Jean, Governor General of Canada

In light of recent political events, it has come to my attention that you will be making an important constitutional decision in the near future which will have a dramatic impact on the international political representation of our country. In making this momentous decision I ask that you consider the nature and context in which this proposed coalition is being formed. While it may be legitimate in some circumstances for parties in opposition remove the governing party from power, such as when gross incompetence is demonstrated, in this case there has only recently been an election, and none of the political parties has had ample time to fully consider the impact of the economic downturn on our country's economy. It is my concern that the proposed coalition government will act rashly and may either take action when none is needed or take the wrong action.
I also ask you to consider whether Canadian voters would have assented to a governing coalition in which a party primarily motivated by political secession wields veto power on any legislation passing through parliament . It is unreasonable to assume that voters could have foreseen these exceptional events when they were voting on October 14th, and it is my opinion that the outcome may have been different if they had considered a coalition government of this nature possible.
Please take these concerns into consideration before making your decision regarding the possible formation of a coalition government or the dissolution of parliament. Sincerely,
........

southpark, you got it: "Doesn't this latest political situation give new meaning: 'Canada - it's not a real country anyway'."

A Cana-banana-da Republic.

My only hope as we sink into the swamp is that this political tsunami clears the landscape, and reveals the leftist/socialist scum for what they are, as they viciously fight to keep their lagging parties propped up by taxpayers' hard-earned dollars, because their own "supporters" won't shell out even $1.95.

Can the govenor general actually consent to a coalition that includes a party that not all Canadians had an opportunity to vote for?
How can she include the Bloc in the government?

What theory, Schautus? That's just a recitation of the facts.

Much as I hate the gun registry I must admit the Liberals didn't create it to put down the insurrection when they illegally seize power. If it worked they might, well if they had a bigger army anyway. But the Registry is a broken piece of non-functional crap, they couldn't use it successfully at this point.

No, the Liberals created the Registry so they could steal two billion dollars.

Worked AWESOME for them, right up to the time Mr. Dithers Martin made Ol' Prison Mouth Jean take his walk in the snow. Since then the money tap seems to have shut rather suddenly for the Liberals. Some guys aren't getting their weekly brown bag delivery, would be my guess.

A poll that needs some help http://www.theglobeandmail.com/

Freeper!

Just voted at the Globe and Mail: 60% support the traitors. Fewer than 500 have voted so far.

Go vote!

Stan: "So the Buck Ninety Five Coalition is going to bring down the Harper government for not running a large enough deficit after lambasting him for weeks for running a deficit?"

And because they're having their buck-ninety-five taken from them. But you've neatly summed up the basic logic behind the argument they're willing to state publicly.

Andy Canuck
I tried to vote "No" and got the following message.

"You've already voted, but here are the results anyway"

I had not voted before. Maybe they don't like the results.

And isn't it interesting that after hours of more voting, the percentages (that still favour 'no') are virtually the same as when I voted in the morning.

"I suppose that's why the DOw is down, too. They must really love Harper in New York."

You think the stock market was affected by the coalition announcement?

you guys are funny... and pathetic

Stimulus package my eye. We're not tecnically in a recession yet. After bravely watching the Three Stooges tonight (at least Larry, Moe and Curly were genuinely funy) the only thing being stimulated is each other in the circle of jerks.

What Lyon Mackenzie King might have said:

"An argument to march on Ottawa to take back the country and crush the abominable insurrection."

Is this too much to ask? Too much to organize?

Or shall we watch democracy, liberty and freedom rent asunder by treasonous criminals, marxists and anarchists?

Are our joined voices limited to blogs? Or can our hearts, minds and plowshares be beaten into swords?

This is now. The barbarians are at the gate. Tomorrow is too late.

Their lick spittle greedily falls on the future of free men and women.

Free enterprise and wealth creation.

Children who would otherwise be free to dream, rather than inculcated into doom.

Do we no longer have the right to choose independent destinies, protected by shared laws, enforced by those who have been democratically elected do so?

Or is this the end, a whimper, not a bang?

Or, maybe I'm full of shit.

What use is force, when the enemy is already in three parts with no way west?

Andrrew Coyne's blog post "The Tories Made Them Do it" really hit the spot. No wonder the leftists gets along with the radical Muslims. If only Harper hadn't provoked them, Harper should have known better, how dare he? Removing those subsidies??? Yeah, just the usual politics but only the Liberals and the left are allowed to do something like this.

That entitlement feeling, superior attitude and blubbering outrage reminds me of the Danish cartoon controversy. And that was trumped up by the Muslims as well.

I weep for Canada and the West.

e-mail to Governor General...

Dear Madame Jean,

I am writing on behalf of my family of four Canadians. We are very worried about the future of Canada. Please do not allow the proposed coalition to take control of parliament. There has been alot of Western separation talk out West in the past couple days.

Please allow the Conservative government to survive at least until the Federal budget is announced. If the budget does not pass, then please call an election.


Sincerely,

Shamrock: A very well thought out and impressive posting.

I wrote the GG suggesting exactly that: a 'cooling off period' that would allow the Conservatives to bring down a budget in mid-January.

If the Lib/NDP/Bloc wish to defeat it as a confidence motion.... so be it.

To Joe Molnar|

Regarding a Western Block party. While I would certainly be interested in a viable western oriented party, one which involved Mr. Christie would be a non-starter.

I'm assuming this is the individual who has represented David Ahenekew, Ernst Zundel and Jim Keegstra. That being the case, regardless of one's take on their personal issues or the fact that he may be a very fine man, his association with a Western political party would be anathema to most people.

If a Western Party is to have any credibility or traction, it would have to be headed by people with no baggage and impeccable credentials to do so.

Silly me. Here I thought coup d'états happened where there was lots of sand or jungle.

I guess this means we have been building the fence on the wrong border. ;-(

As I predicted, Harper will go down in history as the most ineffectual and incompetent boob anyone has ever voted for...it's just gonna be sooner tha later.

He has done nothing but lie since taking offce tree yeas ago. That entire platform was one lie after another. Then, the only law he passed, he back-peddled and broke and called an illegal election.

Now, no one wants to play with him anymore. Time to take your ball and go home Stevie, you moron. You don't have a plan to balance my cheque book let alone our economy...good riddence dunce.

It is very scary that I'd rather see these three knuckleheads fumble through our economy than see Harper's mug again...

As I predicted, Harper will go down in history as the most ineffectual and incompetent boob anyone has ever voted for...it's just gonna be sooner tha later.

He has done nothing but lie since taking offce tree yeas ago. That entire platform was one lie after another. Then, the only law he passed, he back-peddled and broke and called an illegal election.

Now, no one wants to play with him anymore. Time to take your ball and go home Stevie, you moron. You don't have a plan to balance my cheque book let alone our economy...good riddence dunce.

It is very scary that I'd rather see these three knuckleheads fumble through our economy than see Harper's mug again...

Dear Git, quite the appropriate handle you have given yourself, I do not understand the anomosity that you display for prime minister Harper. As you are probably a leftard the law of which you speak is for times of governments of majority so as they cannot be opportunistic as that Cretin was. Anyone of sound mind understood that when the law was passed. As a devotee of this law tou must be apoplectic about the turn of events by the "tree" traitors in attepting to usurp contol of the country from the democraticaly elected representatives.

We have seen the TSX drop over 4000 points, or about 30%, since the beginning of 2008. Thanks, Steve!

Every time I hear that PM Harper was being mean-spirited for cutting the political party subsidy I keep coming up with the question:

When my family is wanting for food, shouldn't I stop spending my money on luxuries and pay for food.

Everybody is correct in saying that the whole world is heading for some very hard economic times. We, the Canadian public, will be asked or made by circumstances to really tighten our belts and there are already those who know they're losing their jobs. But it cannot be "luck" that Canada, although we're losing auto sector jobs, is not going bankrupt like Denmark did a few weeks ago and the US barely averted. We must be doing something right as we're the only country in the G8 that will actually post positive growth.

Does it not make sense to spend $30M on programs to help stimulate the economy vice on political parties? The opposition was the first to jump on Mr Flaherty's comment that we may have to have a deficit...if that deficit is $30M less than it has to be then it has my vote. See it's not just $30M it's the interest Canadians have to pay to borrow the money when we go into deficit.

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I feel that this junta has just slapped me in the face. Obviously "my vote didn't count" in this last election. Glad to hear that I am elegible to live in the US as a refugee.