Roy Green had Libby Davies on his talk show today.
What a total waste of voting space that woman is.
CKNW 980 should have it in the archives tomorrow have a listen and think about thanking Roy for his work.
It's up on cjob.com right now, cap.
Posted by: Yukon Gold at November 29, 2008 5:38 PMThat's the problem with more than two or three parties; it's hard to have a clear winner.
Posted by: foobius at November 29, 2008 5:48 PMYukon Gold, help me out, I can't find the link.
Posted by: AbClipper at November 29, 2008 5:48 PMhttp://www.cjob.com/StationShared/AudioVault.aspx
I think it's 1-2pm, AbC.
Posted by: Yukon Gold at November 29, 2008 5:52 PMHow about the Bloc Ontarien?
Posted by: Peter O'Donnell at November 29, 2008 6:08 PMHow about, Half a brain and two Assholes Party?
Posted by: AbClipper at November 29, 2008 6:11 PMCKNW poll on "Do you support Stephen Harper's economic package?"
http://www.cknw.com/
I still like the three little pigs.
Posted by: Western Canadian at November 29, 2008 6:25 PMShouldn't you guys be calling radio talk shoes with the Harper-prescribed talking points? Fire up the knee jerk rhetoric machine! They're not going to get their message across without the Harper Youth!
Posted by: anon at November 29, 2008 6:28 PM[ "When it comes to the funding and subsidies that political parties get, we just don't think it's worth getting into an election on that issue," Transport Minister John Baird said in an interview.
"We won't be proceeding." Globe
Liberals panic over being cutoff from largess.
Liberals sell soul to Separatists.
Montreal liberals have eyes opened.
It is revealed - Liberals needed Separatists all along.
Liberals will do anything to maintain BQ.
PM Harper says gotcha - shelves subsidy cuts (for now?)
Liberals have shown all their true colors.
Biggest prize here ?
All Canadians now know that their hard earned tax money is handed over to a Party whose only reason for being is to destroy Canada - and it's tax payers. Liberals want to keep this arrangement.
The Media has hid the BQ subsidy all along - even the last few days.
Canadians now know the media also does not care about Canada - just their "business model".
Pathetic.
Come on and vote for the West’s last/best reason to leave, and while you're at it send the PQ a donation to support their very very worthwhile cause.
Once we name the party can we have a contest for by-lines as well??
"Canada's New Government: Unelected, and Unaccountable"
How about "Dumb" "Dumber" et "vraiment tres stupide"
mike
Posted by: mike at November 29, 2008 6:50 PMI put this up last night, but the server messed up...on my end maybe
Left, Lefter, and Leftist
I see somebody came close to that.
The Bloc of Entitled Democrats
Posted by: DanBC at November 29, 2008 6:55 PMTurns out Harper wrote a letter some time ago to the GG, outlining the possibility of him, Duceppe and Layton forming a coalition against the Liberals. Ouch. That really doesn't bode well for his 'undemocratic, working with separatists and socialists' message. It sounds a wee bit hypocritical.
Burn, baby, burn.
Posted by: anon at November 29, 2008 7:11 PMcapt_bob,
If you listened to Roy Green's show today, you probably also heard his bit with Bob Rae.
I still can't believe I actually heard Rae say the conservatives didn't 'really' win this last election.
As usual, when Harper does something that disappoints me, the Liberal Party of Canada rears up and reminds me what true paertisan arrogance is. Without the life-support system of the MSM, the LPC would have died a natural death after Adscam.
Posted by: Canadian Observer at November 29, 2008 7:14 PMThere is a right leaning blog called Coalition of the Swilling found at:
http://www.coalitionoftheswilling.net/
Just sayin'...
GW
What's going on here is that the Liberals have a leader who essentially has nothing to lose with a Hail Mary stunt like this.
Dion is bitter over losing the election and he's bitter over being sidelined afterwards. This is his last and only chance to be PM.
I can't imagine that Iggy and his supporters are anything but furious over Dion's move. Iggy's plan was to give Harper a pass until May, at which time he would likely be the Liberal leader, and then fight an election in the fall. This latest tactic, if successful, would throw a huge monkey wrench into his plans.
This move is not a coup d'etat against Harper; rather, it's a coup d'etat by Dion against his own party. He's quite happy to roll the dice and run the party into the ground if need be.
Harper should instruct the GG to call an election if a non-confidence vote passes. Then, Dion can spend a few weeks explaining to the voting public how it is in the best interest of Canada to allow the Bloc to essentially run the country.
Posted by: Dennis at November 29, 2008 7:24 PMAnything but Harper. But do people know what they will be getting if the you-can't-cut-our-political party-funding Coalition gets into power? What is their so-called stimulus package? Big bucks from the oil patch? We all know with the left, it's all about oil.
Posted by: True West at November 29, 2008 7:27 PM"Without the life-support system of the MSM, the LPC would have died a natural death after Adscam." Canadian MSM kept the corrupt Chretien machine in power by wilful blindness to the corruption.
The current Canadian MSM is still leftist and corrupt.
Vote for the West’s last/best reason to leave.
Posted by: Joe Molnar at November 29, 2008 7:40 PM"What is their so-called stimulus package?"
Hey, Iggy, is that your stimulus package or are you just happy to see me?
Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at November 29, 2008 7:50 PManone
maybe if you try hard you'd be able to see a slight difference between the two situations
now try real hard, as I know critical thinking isn't a leftist forte
Posted by: GYM at November 29, 2008 7:51 PMRemember, there is an election taking place now for a separate WESTERN CANADA, it's the Quebec Provincial Election, SUPPORT the PQ, the rest is easy. As much as I like Harper it's still the numbers, they are against us and always will be, VOTE FOR THE WEST'S LAST/BEST REASON TO LEAVE.
Posted by: Western Canadian at November 29, 2008 7:55 PMYou'd probably be better off just explaining all of the differences, in detail.
Posted by: anon at November 29, 2008 7:56 PMYes, the West should pick this time to leave. History will record that the Harper government presided over the separation of the West. Where so many governments kept the Canada and Quebec together, the first Alliance/Reform leader that took office (albeit under the Conservative banner) was also the first to split the country. What a legacy for him.
Posted by: anon at November 29, 2008 8:04 PMHope that we get the opportunity to march in the streets if this government falls.
I, as a senior, would be the first in line to protest this alliance of the dumb and dumber.
Give the Bloc the $30 million and not a penny more to start their own country. Goodbye - it's been nice knowing you.
Why we allow and pay these people a salary and a pension to mess up our wonderful country is beyond me.
"I am so disgusted with MSM, Libs, NDP + I could tear my hair out."
The three stooges, simple but effective and that is what they are pathetic stooges!
Posted by: bartinsky at November 29, 2008 8:08 PMHey anon, I cannot think of a greater legacy for Steven Harper than being the person with the brains and balls, something no liberal possesses, to split this dysfunctional country up. The very reason is that separatists live off you and me and idiots like you support it. As a hard working Albertan I am so sick of Quebec welfare bums all of them, they can take their arts and their poutine and their money sucking lazy asses and get the hell out! Alberta sends 9 billion a year to Quebec, make me believe they are anything more than welfare bums. As westernerers send money east you ungrateful bastards keep voting for failure, can't think of a better reason to break Canada up, can you.
Posted by: bartinsky at November 29, 2008 8:20 PMbartinsky:
Well I sure hope that Harper feels the same way - and I urge you and all of your like-minded friends to pressure Harper to let Canadians know about this issue. I sincerely hope that Harper will respect your wishes and let all of Canada know that he wants to split the country.
I assure you, the day he announces that desire will be a great day for Canada. Maybe not for the reasons you think, however.
Posted by: anon at November 29, 2008 8:27 PMWhy do you guys hate Canada?
Posted by: anon at November 29, 2008 8:35 PMScuttlebutt around the news bloggers has the Tories already flip flopping on the political "give me" tax. I certainly hope that it is not true otherwise we will have ourselves a lame duck parliament and government. Those who give into blackmail will never get out from under it.
Posted by: Texas Canuck at November 29, 2008 8:41 PMTo Captain Bob et al, I've provided all the links to Roy Green's show here: http://pelalusa.blogspot.com/2008/11/roy-greens-coverage-of-canadas.html
To our anonymous troll, anyone who thinks that what is occurring is "Canadian" or in the spirit of democracy has clearly been smoking too much BC Bud. Should the immediate gloating of you and your Radical Left ilk actually transpire to the Cabal de Trois taking over power then there will be serious, serious repercussions for decades to come.
Government needs the respect of the people in order to function in any democracy. While this doesn't matter to anarchists or the Radical Left (not sure if there's a difference between those 2 groups?!) it does matter to the rest of us. Hold another election and if the Conservatives don't get the most votes then we'll accept that. What's proposed here we will not.
Posted by: Robert W. (Vancouver, BC) at November 29, 2008 8:43 PMIf they form a coalition, then they will clearly have the most popular vote, and the most seats.
Posted by: anon at November 29, 2008 8:51 PMAnon wrote: "Why do you guys hate Canada?"
Ahah. The essential conceit of a liberal: we represent Canada and thus, if you don't like us, well then, you must 'hate Canada'.
Anon, we don't hate Canada - in fact we LOVE Canada. We just hate to see our potential squandered, our taxes stolen and abused (Adscam anyone?) our largesss towards Quebec unappreciated and to be thought of as fools by entitled Liberals.
You on the otherhand make truck and trade with socialists and treasonous politicians who would knowingly and willingly destroy the country that our forefathers so carefully built.
Still, after all that, we don't hate the sinner but rather their sins. And we will continue to help you to see the error in your ways.
Posted by: No Guff at November 29, 2008 8:56 PMAnyone who believes the Grits and Dippers are frantically plotting to take power so they can start governing the country while one of the worst recessions since WWII gets underway should immediately change their retailer of recreational pharmaceuticals.
Listening to all the media whores beating the coalition war drums is sort of amusing, considering their lack of results in the recent election.
Posted by: Sgt Lejaune at November 29, 2008 9:01 PMWhich coalition are you talking about? Which coalition representing the majority of voters and Parliament are you referring to as being so "anti-democratic" and unconstitutional?
This one perhaps?
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September 9, 2004
Her Excellency the Right Honourable Adrienne Clarkson,C.C., C.M.M., C.O.M., C.D.
Governor General
Rideau Hall
1 Sussex Drive
Ottawa, Ontario K1A 0A1
Excellency,
As leaders of the opposition parties, we are well aware that, given the Liberal minority government, you could be asked by the Prime Minister to dissolve the 38th Parliament at any time should the House of Commons fail to support some part of the government’s program.
We respectfully point out that the opposition parties, who together constitute a majority in the House, have been in close consultation. We believe that, should a request for dissolution arise this should give you cause, as constitutional practice has determined, to consult the opposition leaders and consider all of your options before exercising your constitutional authority.
Your attention to this matter is appreciated.
Sincerely,
Hon. Stephen Harper, P.C., M.P.
Leader of the Opposition
Leader of the Conservative Party of Canada
Gilles Duceppe, M.P.
Leader of the Bloc Quebecois
Jack Layton, M.P.
Leader of the New Democratic Party
"Remember Adscam?"
Oh here we go: "But but but remember ADSCAM!!!! 13 years!!! Liberal mismanagement!!! boondoggle!!! uh, uh, uh....Chretien!!! anti-US!!! Clinton got a blowjob - wait, that one doesn't work here...uh, uh, uhhhhh REGISTRY!!! umm, uhhhhh .... need something in the last 5 years at least....."
And that's when the Harperbot short circuits from talking point repetition failure, or TPRF. It affects 9/10 righttards. Only a few mentally disabled loons are able to function with it perpetually...e.g., Ezra.
Posted by: anon at November 29, 2008 9:34 PM"Give the Bloc the $30 million and not a penny more to start their own country. Goodbye - it's been nice knowing you."
NO!
If they leave, not only should the get NOTHING, but they should take with them a per-capita share of the national debt!
the 3 parties to a coalition agree:
-Kyoto must be honored (these 3 already passed a PMB thru parliament, best fast track is a carbon tax)
-Shut down the Oilsands
-Oil and Gas industry is the pollutor that must pay, Ontario/Quebec polluting industries need a bailout, now
-the West will now have to shut up and pay
Nice to see THE WEST'S LAST/BEST IS GAINING GROUND. It's funny what a silly little poll like this can do in the right hands, and it has been passed along, another mountain out of a mole hill, you never know?
Posted by: Western Canadian at November 29, 2008 10:14 PMand the billion dollars went missing from human resource development ?......i guess that was chickenfeed too...and yes the gun registry...and yes Fonzi's pecculation....and yes shawinigate...and yes adscam indeed....and yes an unending litany of incompetence self interest double dipping thievery that would embarrass a bank robber...
so what is it exactly you have against PMSH and the conservative party removing bums like these types of lllieberals from any control of policy or the exchequer ?
Posted by: john begley at November 29, 2008 10:15 PMI tried to vote 4 or 5 times and it didn't register, thats good, thats really good.
Posted by: Western Canadian at November 29, 2008 10:25 PMTed,
Ouch! There's such Harpocrisy in this Conservative Party.
And silence reigns. And they are worried, very worried. I'm now seeing Harper not only as a hypocrite, but as someone that I've greatly overestimated. His fumbling and bungling during an election campaign when he was poised to earn his dearly coveted majority made me take notice.
Now, after urging parties to put aside their petty partisanship in order to focus on our ailing economy, Harper thinks it a good time to turn on the opposition and try to wipe them out for good. Even the Toronto Sun today published a cartoon recognizing the symbolic tightening of the belt for what it was: a desperate and ill timed attempt to finish off his opposition. I see that an anxious Harper has suddenly retreated and no longer intends to kill subsidies to political parties. Too late, no putting that one back in the bag.
Thankfully, Harper isn't as thoughtful and methodical as he thinks he is. I don't think he saw it coming that in about a week's time he's finished as Prime Minister, having no one but himself to blame.
Posted by: Bill Stewart at November 29, 2008 10:30 PMYes Ted and anon - ADSCAM and all those secret trust funds - like the Turdo er Trudeau Foundation, all the money the head Liberanos made from paying Saddam Hussein our $$ for oil (instead of food) and then dumping it on the market for a big profit - that is usury, my goofs! Those unscrupulous, evil profiteers and the UN outfit put their own pocketbooks ahead of the access to food and medical care for the defeated Iraqiis. Put that in your bubble gum pipes and puff (I am certain that neither one of you have ever smoked tobacco - at least never inhaled!). The three stooges (Dips/puffins/blocheads) have shown their true colors to the whole nation - naked greed!!
We, the people, are not finished with those three scumbags; we will be demanding that the Blocheads be cut off from tax dollars - funding TRAITORS- Imagine that?? Only in Canada. We will be squawking about the secret stashes of tax $$ - we need that money for our country! The MSM are in big trouble too, the way the mouthpieces for the three stooges have played this out is nothing short of purgery. They will not be on the 'funding list' either.
Some of those money grubbers/crooks need to cool their heels in a jailhouse.
Times are about to get rough for the three stooges and their yapping MSM. And the old, craven Dipper, Broadbent and Puffin, Cretin getting involved. They are criminals, old, pathetic, IMO. I was a little shocked that Ed was there, I used to semi respect him and I did not think that he would sink that low.
Posted by: Jema 54 at November 29, 2008 10:32 PMIn the "that was then but this is now file", here's some more gold from Harper back when he claimed to have principles and believed in things other than just power. (The full interview transcript with Evan Solomon can be found here: www.cbc.ca/sunday/harper.html):
Harper: Well there are lots of things that could bring the government down, but my opposition can not bring the government down. The government can only be brought down because it alienates several parties in the House. And the first obligation in this Parliament, if the government wants to govern, it has to come to Parliament and it has to show that it can get the support of the majority of members, through the Throne Speech, through legislation, and through budget and supply, and the government to this point has made no effort to do that, but that's its first obligation.
Solomon: But you are a key player at that, let's not make any mistake - courting Stephen Harper is very important if it wants to stay in power, no?
Harper: We'll support the government on issues if it's essential to the country but our primary responsibility is not to prop up the government, our responsibility is to provide an opposition and an alternative government for Parliament and for Canadians. What the government has to do, if it wants to govern for any length of time, is it must appeal primarily to the third parties in the House of Commons to get them to support it.[...]
Solomon: Would you describe this government's position because of its lack of consultation as precarious?
Harper: I'd describe it more as arrogant. And I think the real problem that we're facing already is that the government doesn't accept that it got a minority.
And this line (the last line is the best):
Harper: Canadians want the Parliament to work - but look we're not going to roll over to agree with the government just so they can stay in office. But as I say we've been away from minority government's for so long we've forgotten how they work. The government is still the government. The official Opposition is still the Official Opposition. And these two parties are still going to battle for govenrment in the next election. And that's how the system works. There's going to be other parties, the third parties and that's usually where the government's going to have to seek its mandate to try to get a majority in the House of Commons and it's - that's really their primary responsibility. They've got to get these other parties supporting them regularly or they can't command the confidence of the House. And the same would be true for me if I had the most seats, I would have to find a way of governing.
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So a minority government's "first obligation" is to get the support of Parliament, it is "arrogant" not to consult with the other parties, and "the same would be true for me if I had the most seats". I agree.
I'm sure he's regretting a lot of that interview right about now. I'm sure there is a lot more quotations to mine that he will regret having said.
I have been browsing the various news sites and blog for the past day and a half. It is incredible the amount of name-calling the "well-educated, politically-correct", are resorting to against anyone that is not of their views.
Over at www.heritagereport.org there is an interesting comment on the (il)logic of Liberals. Seems they're far less liked than they like to let on.
Posted by: just1observer at November 29, 2008 10:45 PMWhat an incredible amount of not-so-gracious name-calling and spite is spewing from the libs and their supporters on the various news and blog sites. When the best you can do is resort to name-calling, you really have no logical argument to present.
You can almost taste the poison off their pens.
www.heritagereport.org has a good take on the stats that the Liberals and their supporters are using about how so many Canadians didn't vote for the Conservatives so they can throw them out of government and step in there themselves.
Posted by: just1observer at November 29, 2008 10:51 PMThat's pretty impressive material Ted has at hand.
Kind of stuff that's available from CBC or one of the other leftist MSM archives.
Posted by: Joe Molnar at November 29, 2008 10:57 PMJoe: Now Harper himself and his own words are now part of The Vast Leftwing Media Conspiracy???
Another poll that begs the question:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/
Posted by: Alienated at November 29, 2008 11:03 PMSince the opposition are willing to sell their souls for a buck ninety-five, I'd be tempted to call them the Toonie Party, except I would spell it Twoonie, just to have the 'dubya' in there as salt in there (soon-to-be) self-inflicted wounds.
Posted by: Aviator at November 29, 2008 11:05 PMDarn - the last "there' should be 'their', I thought I'd corrected that before it went...
Posted by: Aviator at November 29, 2008 11:07 PMAll of you supporters of the theft-of-power mark my words. If this thing happens - the damage to Canada as a united country will be huge. I cannot believe that the Liberals and NDP would be so stupid as to risk the break-up of this country by persuing this naked grab for power.
First of all, fully two thirds of this country does not want this to happen. For the Libs and the Dippers to believe that they can form a government with the help of a party that wants to break up this country is to seriously misjudge the position of the average Canadian citizen. Over the next week with all the polling of public opinion that will take place, those two power-hungry parties will either come to their senses or be banished from politcal favour for many years to come.
These two parties and many in the MSM are badly misjudging the public sentiment on this issue. The average Canadian is not a political animal but rather a person with a sense of objectivity and fairness. That Canadian will not accept what is being cooked-up by these power hungry morons. They do this at their own peril.
Those who believe that this is a Harper misstep are badly misreading the whole situation.
Posted by: a different bob at November 29, 2008 11:21 PMWell Ted I am impressed with the material you are providing, it is well presented.
I obviously have totally different view of how the two situations have transpired.
However, I have an innate fear of a socialist / closet communist / separatist Bloc troika coalition governing my country.
And by the way, I never hide behind a user name.
I am - Joseph (Joe) Molnar.
Posted by: Joe Molnar at November 29, 2008 11:43 PMWhy don't those of you in Regina and area stage a protest outside of Ralph Goodale's office. Let him know exactly what you think of a coalition of leftists and traitors. Have it during the week. Maybe Gormley would give you a plug.
Ralph may not be there, but his staff will be. He'll learn about it.
a different bob said, "These two parties and many in the MSM are badly misjudging the public sentiment on this issue. The average Canadian is not a political animal but rather a person with a sense of objectivity and fairness."
Exactly.
Seems many supporters are gauging public opinion based solely upon the comments slant on the CBC website & other such places from the other hardcore Liberal supporters. All the "soft" Liberal supporters I know of are deeply disturbed that the party they voted for made a deal with the devil(s) and are much more fearful of the current uncertain situation than they ever were of the Conservatives.
I don't really care who said what when or who tried to take full advantage of what parliamentary procedure.
MY biggest issue is that Cretin was a liar and a crook. So as far as I am concerned, anyone who served as a liberal MP during the Cretin years, particularly those who held cabinet positions, are not to be trusted as they have been tainted by that same corruption. I don't and won't trust ANY of them and will NOT suffer having them style themselves my leaders, particularly not through some sleazy backroom deal fomented by non-elected non-flushing turds Cretin and Broadbent!
Posted by: Edward Teach at November 30, 2008 1:16 AMI'm pretty "tuned" in to politics in Canada so I follow this stuff pretty close and support the CPC .But my wife really could care less until it comes to election time.And she is PISSED.She's pissed at all politicians but expecially the Libs and NDP(she expects this kind of crap from the Bloc)
And my neighbor is a retired teacher and VERY left wing (he husband borders on being a commie as well).She is equally as PISSED as my wife at the opposition parties.
I think that kind of attitude is pretty prevelant in Canda right now. I see the CKNW poll supports Harper 70%.
Horny Toad
Posted by: Horny Toad at November 30, 2008 1:31 AMnone of those are as good as Swine Herd
Why are none of the good choices up for vote? This list is like pick the worst one
very lame Kate
Posted by: Iain at November 30, 2008 2:01 AMThree blind mice,
Three blind mice,
See how they run,
Canada as one,
They all ran off with the treasury,
Everybody on UIC,
Except for David Suzuki,
and three blind mice.
Posted by: Peter O'Donnell at November 30, 2008 2:53 AMI was writing my editorial this evening and come up with National Gang-Rape Party.
kind of cute.
Posted by: Castor Canadensis at November 30, 2008 3:49 AMIf democracy breaks down, what is left? If we elect a gov't and the leftists decide they don't like it and stage a takeover, what is left?
Do these left wingers think there won't be repercussions to their actions? Do you think we will just let them do as they please and usurp power when they weren't elected?
Don't give me the 38 percent crap. If memory serves, didn't crouton get a majority with 37 percent? But I guess that's okay because he was a lieberal.
I am a born and bred Westerner. If this quebec/toronto party thinks they can continue to run roughshod over us get ready for a shock.
When democracy breaks down, what is left? When a government we elected is deposed by easterners without an election, what is left?
I'll tell you what. Violence, that's what. You say not in Canada, violence wouldn't happen in Canada. Don't be so sure. Be careful lefies, you're playing a dangerous game.
Posted by: A Storm is coming at November 30, 2008 6:45 AMI listened to the Roy Green show. It was what I wanted in the election. When Libby launched he just didn't let it go to the rant but insisted she answer the question. He called Rae on BS and told Baird he wasn't doing politicking. Rae choked when he realized it wasn't going to fly and the Libs were going to wear the seperatistes in the future.
Posted by: Speedy at November 30, 2008 8:32 AMMaybe the Liberals are just fronting this whole thing so they can get their hands on the NDP bank Account.
God knows they need the money - Canadians won't voluntarily send them any cash - we don't trust the LPC because once a thief . . . well you know the rest.
Posted by: Fred at November 30, 2008 9:31 AM"Rae choked when he realized it wasn't going to fly and the Libs were going to wear the seperatistes in the future."
Bob Rae, Power Corp Sock Puppet and Ontario's Proven Failure. Electing Bob Rae is like putting sour milk back in the fridge hoping it will be fresh next week.
(Stolen as a joke from Larry Miller).
Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at November 30, 2008 9:54 AMYes, the West should pick this time to leave. History will record that the Harper government presided over the separation of the West. Where so many governments kept the Canada and Quebec together, the first Alliance/Reform leader that took office (albeit under the Conservative banner) was also the first to split the country. What a legacy for him.
You may think that in your neck of the woods , but out here he would be looked apon with admiration. The man who finally freed the west from the eternal handout losers in Quebec. When all is said and done, Quebec will be a slum, i would guess similar to Russia. You Libs are something, power was not given, so you will take it in a legal but chicken shit way. Either way, when the trough suckers are back in power running this country into the financial muck, i will be looking forward to cutting the strings of the confederation. I would be interested to know who Quebec will drain their 9 billion subsidy from when Alberta is on it's own, with no reason to send hard earned money to support unviable social programs. Oh yeah and no Bi-lingualism. What a GREAT day that will be. Here's hoping.
Posted by: Tewchip at November 30, 2008 11:03 AMTed, your capacity for moral equivalence is truly stunning.
In the Martin Liberals we had a federal party caught RED HANDED, stealing. Flat out stealing. We had a party which managed to blow two BILLION dollars on a f-ing database you could run off a laptop, called the Federal Firearms Registry. We had a party which created the Canadian Human Rights Commission which is currently in the news for oppression -and- corruption both.
Then we have the CPC party, whose total scandals to date amount to cutting spending on the arts during a fiscal crisis, and attempting to cut spending on political parties. During a fiscal crisis. Oh, and a 2% GST cut. That's it.
These two things are the same to you, or so you say.
If the Harper CPC had been caught stealing as the Liberals were, I'd be first in line screaming for the opposition to defeat the government and call an election. You'd have my boot marks on your coat from where I ran you over to get to the front and scream. You remember me screaming CALL AN ELECTION back in the Adscam days? I'm sure you do.
As it is, not so much. Because these two things are not the same, Ted. Lying about it will not make them the same, either. Lying will just further ruin your reputation, if such a thing is still possible with you.
Posted by: The Phantom at November 30, 2008 11:04 AM"Oh here we go: "But but but remember ADSCAM!!!! 13 years!!! Liberal mismanagement!!! boondoggle!!!"
I didn't realize that there was a statute of limitations on outright theft of this magnitude. Since it didn't happen within the last 5 years, we're supposed to forget about it? It didn't happen? Strange way of looking at things!
Posted by: biffjr. at November 30, 2008 11:09 AMas a maritimer, i agree that the proposed coalition government would be a slap in the face to the west, and would make it difficult for western federalists to continue to argue their case
also, i applaud the canada schmanada, the faltered done toast, and the i keel entries; great stuff, folks!
Posted by: rzr at November 30, 2008 11:10 AMThe only reason I can see for the Bloc to support any of this is knowing that this will kill the Liberals in Quebec and hopeing that the west will seperate. They know that the people in the west would act before the Quebecquois would. If the west seperates then Quebec seperation would be a no brainer.
Posted by: ernie at November 30, 2008 11:16 AMJust listen to Roy Green; I have to say that he was too angry and not very clear with his questions to Libby Davies. The man is passionate about Canada.
It will be interesting to see what happens with the motley crue in opposition.
Libby Davies is a hopeless socialist, always has been. She was trained and grew up on the dole, and represents the toilet of Canada (no, not Toronto, but close!) the Downtown Eastside of Vancouver.
Expecting common sense from someone like that is like expecting Jack Layton to embrace the merits capitalism.
Come to think of it, all the dippers have the same disease.
Posted by: DanBC at November 30, 2008 12:22 PMThis is a great set up for an election commercial just waiting to be made:
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/todays-paper/only+principle+matters+liberals/1013354/story.html
Posted by: MBerridge at November 30, 2008 12:32 PMI voted for this one because it best fits the description of what they are doing. I just don't get it, in order for any business to survive in an economic downturn their has to be better money management or else you will be in debt situation that will probably bankrupt the business.
PMSH has proposed some good economic cuts, a savings of over 6 billion per year. One cut that the opposition parties are whining, sniveling and rebelling about is the 30 million dollars out of the political party welfare system. Do the people in Canada realize that the 30 million is per year.
30,000,000 per year x 4 = 120,000,000 million
120,000,000/$2500 per month per person = $48000/48 months = 1000 people could be retrained for different jobs at $2500.
Now I have only a grade 9 education, maybe one of you more educated people can help me out. 'tinpot ted or Bill Stewart'. You want to defend this soon to be puppet government and their ways to spend the hard earned tax money.
Power Hungry Morons Coalition Party
I like it. Accurate. Defining. Visual. Memorable.
Better get it cleared by CHRC first. They may assert prior claim.
Ted's a lawyer remember, there is no "crime", only inadequate defence.
Ted, Harper was right on to kill the vote subsidy. It was enacted to preserve the Liberals and backfired when they lost. As had been said by many - no one should be forced to support a party they don't align with through taxation. 30 mill would have been a nice "stimulus" to those victims of down and outsizing as may occur - you know, might even have been enough if targeted specifically to those actually in need. The American and euroweenies have targeted sectors - its their multinationals after all - let that work through the system. Anything else just devalues currency and doesn't really help anybody.
Posted by: Skip at November 30, 2008 4:01 PMSkip, you've got to be kidding me. Ted's a frickin' LAWYER?!!! Of what, traffic fines?
A lawyer would put his reputation to the sword like Ted's been doing here, voluntarily? I'm astounded.
Posted by: The Phantom at November 30, 2008 5:15 PMBut Phantom, don't forget Ted is a lawyer that supports the Crooked Liberal Party du Canada.
They don't always play with a full deck.
That is not astounding.
Jack and Gilles went up the Liberals Hill
Posted by: dog river at November 30, 2008 11:05 PMSorry about the late entry here, how about the SS (Socialists and Separatists)Party? It encompasses the whole group enacting the coup, covers their nazi style infringement of liberties such as free speech, and turns the worm on the leftists "Right Wing Nazi Agenda" nonsense.
Posted by: mike at December 1, 2008 6:43 AMTeam Adscum
Posted by: Stephen Harris at December 2, 2008 2:04 PM
Are you familiar with the British Parliamentary tradition? This is the Canadian System. Are you aware that governments can be allowed to fall by the Governor General if that government has lost the Confidence of the House of Commons? And the Crown represented by the GG can give another
Coalition of Parties the right to form a Government? This is the process now unfolding in Canada. It is a part of our system reserved for Crisis. Look on the Finance pages - we are in a first months of a global Recession. Harper was the only leader of an industrialized democracy to offer zero economic stimulation. The man is out of touch.
I’d also warn against vitriol about “Separatists” unless you are trying to shove Quebec off the train as it were. But maybe as a Tory you want your rightwing English nation?
Posted by: Andrew Taylor at December 2, 2008 7:53 PMThe Lie-beral/Non-Democratic Party Coalition
Full name:
The Lie-beral/Non-Democratic Party Coalition for the Destruction of the Canadian Economy