After all the hippie dippy crap, doesn't The Point end up with the nonconformist kid turning into everybody else?

Yeah, that's SO anti-Establishment, Harry.

Scratch a leftist, find a fascist.

These HR courses are the absolute worst to have to sit through. You don't even have the luxury of being able to day-dream your way through them because they insist on participation in exercises and icebreakers.

For additional torture, you are "invited" to attend additional courses if you belong to an under-represented group. There you are given further istruction on victim rights and reponsibilities. Very helpful towards inclusiveness because nothing will help you fit in quite like your coworkers being suspicious of the content of your special training.

To add insult to idiocy, try to point out inconsistencies between policy and practice. The silence by the executive champions of these initiatives is deafening. I guess once you realize that the meetings and mottoes are the solution ..it all becomes clear.

I've never found Harry Nilsson's great recordings insufferable.
The silly sods that think "The Point" would make a worthy article of "study" in any level of education (much less college, fer crissake) are, however, fine examples of lib/lefty lazy teaching and are absolutely insufferable.
Actually, Kathy, Oblio winds up being the only one with a point; everybody else's just flops over on one side, limply.
Always liked that bit.

Ahhh sexual harrasment training......

The military's version is called SHARP (Sexual Harrasment and Racial Prejudice/Profiling?.... something like that).

Had winger that was 17 years in the rank he retired at who proclaimed that he was neither racist nor bigot nor sexist, he hated everyone equally. The big day came for him to take his SHARP training. We had a pool to see how long he lasted before they kicked him out. I had 32 minutes. The guy with 26 won.

Found poetry. H/T liberalism:

Harry:
"Everything has a point, and if it doesn't, then there's a point to it.'"

Jeancula Chretien:
"It’s a proof. A proof is a proof, and when you have a good proof, it’s because it’s proven.”"

How Modern Liberals Think (YouTube Video)

Paraphrase; "There can be no discrimination. None. Absolutely no discrimination at all. As long as it is a Liberal who is determining just what is and what isn't discrimination."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c

Gone are the days when people pride themselves on personal responsibility. It is no longer sufficient for the PC crowd to deal with problems on their own. They must have some sort of group or section established to whom they can go cry fowl. The more I am exposed to these lefty propagandists, the more childish I find them. I guess that's what happens when you force taxpayers to pay for your every whim, you lose account for anything you may find troublesome and regress into imaginative bogeymen. I wish their was another habitable planet we could ship all these goons to, they could finally live in their untouched paradise.

"I wish their was another habitable planet we could ship all these goons to, they could finally live in their untouched paradise."

There is,SaskHab. It's technically not a planet,but it will suffice; the MOON. After all,they should be quite at home with extremely rarefied air,as they have shown that no useable amount of O2 reaches their brains anyway. Plus think of the fun they can have,trying to redefine the laws of gravity,to bring the Moon's gravity up to ours!!!

I bow to Mal's superior memory! My hippie hatred sometimes gets the better of me.

A friend of mine took a sensitivity training course when he worked at the penitentiary.
He's a big bruiser and a definitely old school.
One of the questions was "What would you say if you were walking down the corridor and an inmate who was mopping the floor told you to @#$* %@#?"

His reply was "Do you mean what would I say AFTER I shoved the mop up his ass?"

BRRRRNNDD! Wrong answer.
Do not pass Go, do not collect $200.00.

"Gone are the days when people pride themselves on personal responsibility. It is no longer sufficient for the PC crowd to deal with problems on their own."

The PC crowd don't, because they can't. All through their formative years, they accepted the kool-aid ladled out by an educational system that was filled with more fairy dust than nuggets of real wisdom. The result is skill-less lives wasted on make-believe and the false promise that things must be other than what they are.

They are mostly blind, deaf and dumb, legions of stuffed animals with buttons for eyes and sawdust for brains.

I think Harrys drug experiences injured his coconut.

Take it from someone who was actually there, Nilsson was only popular with the remnants of the hippy movement. I was in highschool at the time, and a couple of teachers tried to introduce us to Little Oblio. You can probably picture them, permed hair and the obligatory beard. My crowd considered them a joke. The hippy movement died in 1967, but these guys wouldn't allow it to be buried.

When my friends took acid, we didn't spend a lot of time contemplating the point of life. We were more likely to spar with machetes, or see who could eat the most plastic without puking. I'm not sure why we survived, but it certainly gave me a different outlook. One time we invited a hippy type to a bush party, and when he started peaking on acid, we pretended to be zombies, and chased him through the trees under a full moon. I bet he did the 100 meter in 8.5. We certainly didn't listen to Nilsson.

'New Deli'? Do they have pointed bagels there?

Its teaching like this that forces me into courses at the City, on how to tell if something is wrong or illegal. They call it the Smell Test. No Morals, no wrong, no sin. You have to tell if something is off by a feelings, from a sense of wrongness? Whatever that is. This is on par with the age of Emotion where all dwell in the land of Nod where though is discouraged.
This is the heritage of moral equivalence.
People who have no idea that there is evil or good in the world. Just feelings.
As for parents there just passé. Multiculturalism teaches us that all are the same, except white males who cannot help being imperialists, killers, bigots, racists, & never ever right, unless a Marxist.
In the end this will end up like Somalia. Hey maybe we can earn some bucks as Pirates?
These courses are just propaganda. A word I am told that translated into English from German as Public relations. They assume you have no honor morals or even the brains to understand. It dishonors those who do nothing wrong, in favor of treating us all as crooks. Was there ever a time like this when people where so stupid they can’t tell right from wrong? Thank you public Education. You facistic bastards.
I have news for all the communists. It didn't work in Russia , it aint gonna here. Not even after 70 years.

I remember listening to parts of "Point" so many years ago, a friend though it was inspired, but Harry didn't get my $7. or whatever it went for back then...

re-education? uff.

I love that all my kids have no problem saying, "I'm normal, unlike aunty ______"

They made a movie out of The Point. An animated film. It was on TV pretty regularly when I was a kid in the '70s. I watched it a couple of times, thinking its "nonconformist" viewpoint fairly radical. (How radical could something be, I wasn't able to ask my adolescent self, when it's on a major TV network, is based on a record released by an entertainment conglomerate, and pretty much echoes everything I'm learning in school? Questions it took me years to ask.)

If I recall correctly, the ultimate message was that the little nonconformist round-head boy finally, magically makes all his pointy-headed authoritarian oppressors round-headed, just like him. So - no variety, no dissent, just one uniform shape of head and, one assumes, thought.

I suppose it was all a bit much for Harry to ponder the implication of that.

Best book on non-conformity and 'what is normal'?

Leo the Lop

My kids loved it...and they 'got it'!

Anybody happen to listen to the melodies and the harmonys??? I'm a real musician, ex what some might have called a hippy in the day and a Conservative. There are numerous songs on the album which make a story. It's fantasy and entertainment so don't try to make it anything else, on either side liberal socialists or conservative eggheads. It's just f*cking music. And Mr. DP "take if from one who was there" acid freak zombie, too bad you weren't around my hippy group trying the zombie gig. You might have found yourself jumping off of a 10 story building in response. You were obviously an asscap then and I see nothing has changed. Believing in love and peace doesn't mean that you are a complete idiot and allow yourself to be pushed around, so again, be thankful.
Actually Mal said it very succinctly!!

Guys should always attend sexual harassment seminars; they might meet some hot babes there!

As for The Point, I've seen the movie a couple of times and found it reasonably enjoyable. But I don't think I have any Nilsson material except for his cover of "Without You". I heard "Me And My Arrow" on an oldies station recently ...

kate,I wonder if the controversy was sort of in your head?

anyway, these ant harrasment deals are to innoculate businesses and other organization from being names as co-defendants in law suites. you know..."It's not our fault; we told him not to stare at the reception's boobs"

Kate, how in hell did you survive art school?

Holy Crap, Kate! -- I always thought that I was the only poor soul that had to suffer through The Point. It was shown to us by our History (don't ask) teacher in high school (1975). We hooted and hollored at the presentation...who could forget such fab songs as 'Me and My Arrow'...God, I despised that teacher!

re: Rick @ 1:09am -- melodies and harmonies? I guess so, and I was a music major through high school and into college (before I shifted to Geology). To me it was crap wrapped up in a half-assed message -- but then, I was into Zappa, Hancock, Rachmaninoff...The Point was...pointless.

Posted by: Rick at November 24, 2008 1:09 AM

I'm really shakimg in my boots. I take it you weren't a real hippy, cause they were pacifists. You're likely trying to identify with the yippies who showed up right after the hippy movement failed in '67. If that's the case, I guess you must have missed out on the good parties. I'm thinking you would have gotten an ass-whooping. And I'm also pretty sure you buddies wouldn't have helped you.