But the most curious kidnapping that occurred in Pakistan’s northwest has gone largely unreported. The Taliban kidnapped a Canadian journalist named Beverly Giesbrecht. CTV described Giesbrecht as "a Web magazine publisher in British Columbia who adopted the name Khadija Abdul Qahaar after converting to Islam after 9/11."What magazine does Giesbrecht/Qahaar write for? None other than Jihad Unspun, a pro-al Qaeda, pro-Taliban, pro-jihadi rag that describes terrorists as "Mujahideen" and Western forces as "Occupiers." Jihad Unspun routinely posts translations of terrorist leaders.
I voted "nothing" only because there wasn't a "smirk and do nothing" choice.
Posted by: johnboy at November 15, 2008 5:43 PM"Jihad Unspun, a pro-al Qaeda, pro-Taliban, pro-jihadi rag that describes terrorists as "Mujahideen" and Western forces as "Occupiers.""
Humph. Maybe we should take our ball and go home. Let them destroy themselves in a medieval hell-hole if they want to. We can even send our dhimmi wannabes over there to boot.
Posted by: Edward Teach at November 15, 2008 5:47 PMInteresting. After all, the kidnappings are more and more becoming an economic process, a means of raising money, and have little to do with ideology.
The Taliban and Al Qaeda are moving out of ideology and into pure criminality. The same thing happened in C. America, when the Soviet Union withdrew its support and financing of various communist rebel groups. These groups transformed into criminal gangs focused on raising money by hostage-taking and the drug economy.
Same thing is happening with the Al Qaeda and Taliban. I wonder if they realized that they kidnapped one of their own and that, therefore, the economic return might be, well, zero.
I wonder if she has managed to explain this to them? Or if they are indifferent to her explanations of love and admiration? If they are only interested in 'the money'. Hmmm?
Posted by: ET at November 15, 2008 6:01 PMKidnapping or going in for a debrief?
Posted by: Texas Canuck at November 15, 2008 6:12 PMI couldn't decide whether to vote for 'nothing' or 'nothing'. Finally I compromised and voted for 'nothing'.
Have a look at the original CTV report on this:
http://tinyurl.com/5u6vxb
I was surprised to learn she was once a co-publisher, with Peter Ladner, of Business In Vancouver magazine. Understandably, she is a resident of Lion's Bay, which is a rather posh community about halfway between Vancouver and Squamish. A hot bed of Jihad, if ever there was one. And golf.
Giesbrecht appears to be a rich society matron having a mid-life crisis -- one part Madonna, and one part Rachel Corrie. Maybe she should have just stuck with the Botox injections and Raul, the pool boy?
Posted by: rg at November 15, 2008 6:15 PMWhose to say that this 'kidnapping' isn't staged to raise money? There was a marine for the U.S. that was kidnapped, showed up in Lebanon and promptly went AWOL.
http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/693
The theory is that he arranged the kidnapping. Hard to figure out the motive here since no money exchanged hands and no soldiers were withdrawn, but it was one of the earlier kidnappings.
Posted by: Half Canadian at November 15, 2008 6:18 PMBed. Made. Lie down.
Posted by: AtlanticJim at November 15, 2008 6:41 PMCurrent government policy is that no ransoms are paid....Given that she is islamic they cant kill her, for religous reasons.
She is a canadian citizen, which means the government should follow policy and try to get her released without paying a ransom period.
If one was paid before, but not admitted to...oh well. If the taliban want to come out and say they do these things for money then fine, we still do nothing.
I suspect she is fine. The government still needs to fulfill its mandate to protect Canadian citizens where it can.
Posted by: Stephen at November 15, 2008 6:43 PMI wanted to vote nothing, but something in the back of my head told me I was being manipulated, I think the poll was designed by the Lieberals
Posted by: jack Laytons press officer at November 15, 2008 6:48 PM"Given that she is islamic they cant kill her, for religous reasons."
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Given that she's a woman, they'll find some reason to kill her.
BTW, did any of you hear the Conservative Party voted nearly unanimously to repeal Section 13!!! YAHOOO!! Now, I hope Harper has the balls to do it, once parliament resumes.
Posted by: Louise at November 15, 2008 6:50 PMit's almost like they are treating her like they do all their women...hmmmm
Posted by: daverbonz at November 15, 2008 6:50 PMbut but but I thought she wanted to be Muslim.....
Posted by: Joe at November 15, 2008 6:52 PMThe Canadian government is under no obligation to help in any way a citizen who openly supports an armed enemy.
Now if she can get back home, the courts would be a good place to start with her.
Posted by: AtlanticJim at November 15, 2008 6:58 PMThe story has gone largely unreported, because it is a proof positive that you can’t appease the freaky blood cult of Islam! You wouldn’t want the rest of the sheep’s to catch onto that little “FACT”.
She is therefore fulfilling her chosen destiny as a Martyr. ‘Cept it’s for the wrong side dumb ass. If you ever had doubts about natural selection, you have a front seat to all its wonders.
Oh well Thanks anyway Bev!..........and stay away from the seafood. He he.
It would only let me vote nothing once.
Posted by: Northern Nut at November 15, 2008 7:15 PMIf there is an Allah, he'll look over her...
Posted by: Blair at November 15, 2008 7:30 PM*
"Jihad Unspun, a pro-al Qaeda, pro-Taliban, pro-jihadi rag..."
hmmm... just another example of the capricious and unknowable
"will of allah"... but i'm sure all her fellow travellers & loyal
readers are busily scraping together ransom money as we speak.
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Posted by: neo at November 15, 2008 7:42 PMThe best thing we can do as Canadians is ignore the ransom demands from the terrorists holding this skank.
After a couple months of exposure to her I'm sure the kidnappers will be offering to *PAY* us money to take her back!
Posted by: Mr.g at November 15, 2008 7:44 PMI ended up voting nothing,because "hang the treasonous beyootch" wasn't a selection.And Stephen....since when does siding with the enemy make you a "citizen"? If so,the Canucjkistan should immediately repatriate her,then shoot her!
Posted by: Justthinkin at November 15, 2008 7:46 PMNo "sweet f-all" button?
Posted by: Mississauga Matt at November 15, 2008 7:58 PMShe has the Koran & goats to keep her company.
Posted by: Revnant Dream at November 15, 2008 8:00 PMHeeyyy. I just thunk of a redneck,neocon solution! Even though they haven't shown up here yet(wait for it),why don't we send lberia and ok4ua over to liberate her?? After all,they plead their feelings and tolerance for scum.
Posted by: Justthinkin at November 15, 2008 8:18 PMHa ha
Posted by: Nelson Munz at November 15, 2008 8:23 PMYou forgot liberal Ron and Jeff Davidson there Justthinkin.
Posted by: AtlanticJim at November 15, 2008 8:39 PMToss in talyban jackass also!!!!
Posted by: GYM at November 15, 2008 8:48 PMjust checked CBCpravda and CTV(tass) , no such story.
I think they are still working on one about the youngest member of the first family of terrorism , Omar Khadr.
the ageless kid that stays at 14 or younger in their photo, taken in some Toronto junior high whilst they collected welfare.
Im wondering now how one of the black bag ladies hunger strike is going. maybe we can have the ontario government force feed her some pig entrails.
Posted by: cal2 at November 15, 2008 9:23 PMAtlanticJim:
You're forgetting Iberia, who is now spewing its unique venom on the Peace In Iraq thread.
I say its deliberately, since I cannot sense any humanity in it.
"Maybe she should have just stuck with the Botox injections and Raul, the pool boy?"
Why settle for one Raul when you can have dozens, if not hundreds, of Abduls?
i think an ad hoc delegation from canada should sally forth to negotiate her release....i see judy rebick....jennifer lynch....sheila copps....hedy fry....libby davis....and the appropriate distaff journos of course....all wearing code pink camos hammering over the goat trails in a solar powered humvee during the brutal afghan winter....finally encountering the perps and laying a little human rights on them baby..canajun style...
Posted by: john begley at November 15, 2008 9:51 PMcal2: CBC radio covered the story, with a complete description of her conversion to Islam. It was all over the newscasts earlier this week, including a comparison to the kidnapping of their own that they sat on.
Posted by: djb at November 15, 2008 10:02 PMShe is where she should be. Leave her there.
Posted by: norm at November 15, 2008 10:06 PMI volunteer Omar Khadr as a throw-in. You know, a two for one. The Taliban can keep them both over there in Pakistan as long as they want.
Any objections?
Posted by: Kevin F. at November 15, 2008 10:07 PMIf you're pro-terrorist and you get kidnapped by terrorists is it really kidnapping or going home to your people?
Posted by: Shannow at November 15, 2008 10:11 PMI read she was begging for money trying to get outta town. I finally wound up voting for nothing. I don't like polls where the difference is so hard to decipher.
Posted by: Rick Sharp at November 15, 2008 10:12 PMcal2,
There is a link to CTV at the story linked to. CTV British Columbia.
set you free,
Justhinnkin already had lberia listed, don't want to be repetative.
Posted by: AtlanticJim at November 15, 2008 10:18 PM"i think an ad hoc delegation from canada should sally forth to negotiate her release....i see judy rebick....jennifer lynch....sheila copps....hedy fry....libby davis....and the appropriate distaff journos of course....all wearing code pink camos hammering over the goat trails in a solar powered humvee during the brutal afghan winter....finally encountering the perps and laying a little human rights on them baby..canajun style..."
Oh please...please...please...
Posted by: Edward Teach at November 15, 2008 10:19 PMOh, for the good old days. When mortgages went to people with jobs, when GM was not blackmailed into providing the help with viagra, when Ontario was a have province, and when we executed traitorous scum.
Oh well, one can dream.
GO ARMY!
VOTE REFORM
CBC Radio did cover the story and interviewed one of her friends, who argued that, unlike the case of Melissa Fung, Khadija's story needed to be told in order the pressure the Canadian government to work for her speedy release. I agree with Stephen that the Government of Canada should follow its normal procedures when dealing with these matters, but they needn't have any sense of urgency. They should also check to see if she has violated any laws so that, if she is released, she can be given a proper welcome back to Canada.
Posted by: Roseberry at November 15, 2008 10:22 PM"Kidnapping" is an expired description of what has become an industry in the middle east.
It is "Hostage for extortion" now.
Anyone who travels to regions in conflict must assume responsibility for the detriments they face as a result of their actions.
Posted by: Zilla at November 15, 2008 10:49 PMThe choices were too easy. They should have added another choice such as "DICK ALL". That would have been my choice. With that not available I had to choose "nothing". It just isn't fair! Damn It!
Posted by: a different Bob at November 15, 2008 11:02 PM1 down - 800,000 to go.
Posted by: Knight 99 at November 15, 2008 11:08 PM"What magazine does Giesbrecht/Qahaar write for? None other than Jihad Unspun, a pro-al Qaeda, pro-Taliban, pro-jihadi rag that describes terrorists as "Mujahideen" and Western forces as "Occupiers.""
Really? Fucking let her die then. Canadian Forces are engaged against those evil bastards and her magazine calls them "occupiers".
Or, if she can be rescued at little costs, bring her back to Canada, arrest her, try her for Treason, and put her in jail for life.
I am completely serious.
Posted by: Christoph at November 15, 2008 11:09 PM"What magazine does Giesbrecht/Qahaar write for? None other than Jihad Unspun, a pro-al Qaeda, pro-Taliban, pro-jihadi rag that describes terrorists as "Mujahideen" and Western forces as "Occupiers.""
Really? Let her die then. Canadian Forces are engaged against those evil bastards and her magazine calls them "occupiers".
Or, if she can be rescued at little costs, bring her back to Canada, arrest her, try her for Treason, and put her in jail for life.
I am completely serious.
Posted by: Christoph at November 15, 2008 11:09 PMI hope CF special forces rescue her after they slaughter every single cowardly Jihadi involved in her so-called kidnapping.
The she can appear befoer the Human Rights Council at the UN and the World Court and file complaints against the so-called "occupiers" and see what the world makes of it all.
Isn't in ironic? Now that a crypto-communist is soon to be CIC of the US Armed Forces that the world is willing to consider that we won.
Posted by: Doug at November 15, 2008 11:29 PMRescued from what? Hanging out with her homies?
Posted by: Soccermom at November 15, 2008 11:31 PMwow.. it's hard believe that so many people didn't vote Nothing #3!
What's wrong with you people! ;)
Posted by: ChrisinMB at November 16, 2008 12:02 AM"We have been in some very sensitive areas and even Islamabad is now locked down. As foreigners we must leave the country however we do not have the funds to get out."
http://www.jihadunspun.com/intheatre_internal.php?article=1002902&list=/index.php&
Yep. She obviously had the funds to put herself into danger and consciously made the choice to do so. Now she's begging her readers to get her out.
Since her fellow travellers on the left are unlikely to do so, a handy 'kidnapping' may result in publicity for the cause, an opportunity to show how callous and uncaring the 'occupier government of Canada' is and pressure to bring this 'Canadian Citizen' home at no cost to herself.
It's a win-win situation!
Posted by: No Guff at November 16, 2008 1:16 AMChristoph-
I think you have the right idea. They used to hang people for what that woman is doing.
"Under s46 of the Criminal Code, a person commits "high treason" who ... assists an enemy at war with Canada or any armed force against whom Canadian forces are engaged in hostilities, even if no state of war exists. The punishment for high treason is life imprisonment, without parole eligibility for 25 years. "
http://tinyurl.com/5nqumy
Posted by: rg at November 16, 2008 2:08 AMGovernment of Canada
Ministry of Slush and Ransoms
Ottawa, Canada
To: Al Qaeda in Pakistan
To whom it may concern;
Mazel tov! She's all yours.
Best regards
-The guy that signs the cheques
;)
Posted by: DaninVan at November 16, 2008 3:02 AM#3 is obviously the superior choice.
As to the voluntary hostage, bye.
Posted by: Jay Currie at November 16, 2008 3:32 AMShe is a traitor to Canada and all females. She got herself in a real mess by turning her back on civilization, and opting for the s&m religion. As an educated female, not a smart one, she must realize that in itself, is a sin against allah.
Posted by: Honey Pot at November 16, 2008 5:26 AMGovernment? Do? Pull her passport.
Lay down with dogs; get up with fleas.
should have been able to lock in all four no votes.
Posted by: old white guy at November 16, 2008 7:32 AM"Jihadi Undone"
Shouldn't that be the Canadian spelling, "Undun"?
Posted by: Charles MacDonald at November 16, 2008 10:21 AMDon't think of it as a kidnapping, think of it as a 'Fund Raiser'.
Posted by: IanV at November 16, 2008 1:47 PMPerhaps they should send Avi Lewis, her co-worker, into negotiate her release.
Posted by: Honey Pot at November 16, 2008 2:59 PMThe CDN. government should warn the Taliban to not even consider using her as a human shield,and then double dare them.
Posted by: h.ryan at November 16, 2008 3:18 PMJust curious if anybody has heard media reports from any source, how the Islamic groups in Canada, elmasry et al are reacting (or not) to this kidnapping?
I imagine it must be hard for them to take a position, one way or the other. Kinda like cheering for both teams equally during the Superbowl.
Let her find her own way home.
Posted by: arctic_front at November 16, 2008 4:49 PMThe media only reports bad news....this is good news....no story here.
Posted by: Joanne at November 16, 2008 5:58 PMSend Svend.
Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at November 16, 2008 10:27 PMI'm curious why they'd kidnap her since she writes for one of their own publications it appears?
Posted by: bar_jebus at November 17, 2008 2:02 AMAsk the scum to save us the trial and stone the @#&%* to death so we won't have to charge her with treason.
In fact, I say we refuse to accept her back unless the terrorists pay a ransom to get rid of her. That way, it would be cheaper to head-hack the traitor.
"The Canadian government is under no obligation to help in any way a citizen who openly supports an armed enemy."
Legally it is obligated since she is a Canadian citizen, and she hasn't been declared an enemy of the state. In theory, the government has to fight for her release, following which it can put her on trial, and eventually convict and imprison her, for supporting the enemy. That is the legal way, anyway.
I wish we could just leave her there with her "brothers". That said, as a Canadian citizen she does have certain rights that are guaranteed until she is proven guilty and even then she has a right to appeal. Morally though, I haven't the slightest bit of sympathy for her - she's getting what she deserves, and quite possibly, what she wants.
"1 down - 800,000 to go."
800,000 what?
Posted by: Dim at November 19, 2008 6:25 AM