
Plus, media accountability you can believe in. Chris Matthews announces new position as editor in chief of Pravda.
More - Who will take care of these people? (h/t steve)
SOUNDS FAIR TO ME
Posted by: Indiana Homez at November 6, 2008 3:08 PMHAHAHAH oh my god you have got to check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bCuEXrU-yQ
Just another example of the MSM destroying itself and wondering why people are switching to online news sources.
Assuming that the first amendment still holds in the US for the next 2 years, the ineptitude of BO will be available for all to see online. Right now BO has nowhere to go except down and it will be interesting to see what happens when the inflated expectations of what BO was going to do collide with reality.
A curious blurb from the post:
The survey shows the Republican party no longer enjoys the issues that have for so long benefited the conservative coalition. One finding said that approximately 72 percent of voters agreed: "The Republican Party used to stand for keeping government spending under control, but not anymore." Who bears responsibility?
The future of Canadian conservative party fortunes perhaps?
Can you picture Trudeau riding the same schlock in a decade?
Posted by: hardboiled at November 6, 2008 3:25 PMIs There Nothing That Dear Leader Can't Do?
One thing he can do is quit smoking. Does not have the will power.
"I pleasure myself whenever you make a stump speech!"
- Chris Matthews character to Barak Obama character in a recent Saturday Night Live skit.
The news is saying that John (I went to Nam) Kerry could be our next Sec of state.
Sweet 4 years of laughs!
...what happens when the inflated expectations of what BO was going to do collide with reality.
Posted by: loki at November 6, 2008 3:15 PM
My bet: The escapists who fell for the "hope" and "change" BS will remain escapists. They'll snort what little remains of their retirement savings and die of overdoses. Pharm out, man.
Posted by: Charles MacDonald at November 6, 2008 3:29 PMCloudy in GERMAN town. No kidding. The dark clouds are gathering all across the land. My guess is brown will be a popular shirt fashion next year. With fancy armbands as an accessory.
Posted by: Andy at November 6, 2008 3:30 PMThe good thing is they have found themselves, they are now on the inside of American society as so many of them have said over the past couple of days, not the outside. It should also mean that along with greatest hurtle of all being conquered there are no excuses left to becoming successes within American society, should it not? It is now up to the black community to prove to all that these past injustices were indeed the cause of their failure within American society, should it not? The ball is now firmly in the black communities court.
Yes, but no media bias here. After all bias would imply a slight leaning from the midline toward a pre-selected preference with at least a pretense of objectivity.. This is more like the ship capsized to the left, keel in the air with no intention of righting itself.
Posted by: DrD at November 6, 2008 3:32 PMI don't know what disgusting, redistributionist, totalitarian policies Mr. 'bama is going to try to impose on America but I do know this. He is going to find this evildoing a LOT easier thanks to the nearly limitless powers which have accumulated in the executive branch thanks to the machinations of GWB, Cheney, Rove et al. and the connivance of corrupt congresscritters, supine supremes and bootlicking media.
It will be interesting to see which of the former Bush cheerleaders remain in opposition to BHO and which ones are seduced by the sheer giddiness of the dictatorial power being wielded. Probably the lifelong Republicans will start gravitating back to traditional values of freedom and limited government (as espoused by Ron Paul) and will be opposed to 'bama whereas the infamous ex-Trotskyite neo-cons who are johnny-come-latelies to the Republican party will decide that BHO is the reincarnation of Lincoln and FDR (which unfortunately may be true) and jump onto the socialist bandwagon. Or rather, they'll remain on the socialist bandwagon and 'bama will simply slide into the driver's seat.
considering your last 94 posts in a row have been about obama, looks like your riding the train as often as anyone else.
Posted by: jeff davidson at November 6, 2008 3:34 PMCBC is whining, Election of Obama unlikely to help Khadr: defence lawyer.
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/11/06/obama-khadr.html
Notice how the one poor pathetic kid is walking backwards on the track and leaning to the left.
Posted by: Doug at November 6, 2008 3:50 PMjeffie, maybe we should take a cue from your gang: to hell with impeaching Obama, let's start the purges!
Just replace "Obama" with "Bush." sound familiar now?
Posted by: Doug at November 6, 2008 3:55 PMYou betcha, Jeff. It was boring around here with conservatives in power in Saskatchewan, Ottawa, Italy, France, Germany and Washington. Now that the Messiah has come, it's like blogging Christmas!
Matthews spills the beans! The Media of today is a propaganda machine ! (As if we didn't already know)
Even in it's heyday, Pravda Journalists were not this corrupt.
Posted by: ron in kelowna at November 6, 2008 4:06 PMGee, Jeffie, 3:30 in the PM - photogy biziness slow today? Kate's right, blogger heaven! Four years of poking a stick into those big ears - ain'tcha gonna luv it?!
Posted by: Skip at November 6, 2008 4:09 PMKate, this is important and you should listen to it. It's about Obama's cult of personality and it is short.
Posted by: Christoph at November 6, 2008 4:43 PMI will call Mathews "Crissy Tingles" forever. (Or, at least for the 70 more seconds he has a career - whichever comes first.)
Posted by: Warwick at November 6, 2008 4:47 PMjeez, some of the msm are wondering who obama might be. what a bunch of assholes. a day late and a dollar short.
Posted by: old white guy at November 6, 2008 5:01 PMWhere are all the big posters celebrating Joe Biden? For the first time in its history didn’t the United States manage to elect its first retard as vice President?
Posted by: Shawn at November 6, 2008 5:05 PMDoes this mean that Susan Sarrandon isn't moving to Canada? Oh darn...
Posted by: Edward Teach at November 6, 2008 5:05 PMCBC is whining, Election of Obama unlikely to help Khadr: defence lawyer.
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/11/06/obama-khadr.html
CBCpravda All Khadr all the Time.
the old mothercorpse goes out it way to write stories about canaduhs first family of terrorism.
wonder if his bag lady sister has starved herself to death in her hunger strike, the least we could do is cut her off the food portion of her welfare check.
"Where are all the big posters celebrating Joe Biden?" [Shawn]
He's on TV with FDR.
Posted by: Sounder at November 6, 2008 5:19 PMWell Matthews probably just blew that last thin hair of credibility. There is a difference between being sympathetic or having leanings, his past as a democratic operative is open and well known....but this just blows it for him.
As one said, I assume he will be runnig for the Senate soon.
Posted by: Stephen at November 6, 2008 5:31 PM"Borat Obama" could teach Sacha Baron Cohen a thing or two about impersonating a character. Cohen fooled a few people for the sake of movie, Borat Obama fooled almost 120,000,000 voters for sake of winning an election.
Posted by: dwo at November 6, 2008 5:56 PMWow! For a minute I thought I was looking at Stalin along Red Square.
Last night I watched a bunch of ecstatic revelling among Obama supporters.
Man, are they in for a surprise.
I remember watching Cornell West on a TV show some years ago explaining how blacks had once regarded the idea of middle class achievement as some kind of paradise.
Then, he went on to say, one-third of blacks in the US became middle class, only to discover that despite this achievement, they were still beset by problems. They still had to worry about the bills, the kids didn't suddenly begin to act right, their houses still needed repairs, the car still broke down, etc., etc. And this was kind of a disillusioning slap in the face for them.
I think that they are about to discover that the idea of some wish-fulfillment about a black president is not going to result in the realization of any of these hopes.
It will be interesting in a couple of years to see the disgruntled faces on people who put all of their hopes on some guy who gets the top job.
Incidentally, our next Congressional elections are in 2 years, and Republicans are already starting to target various seats.
Remember, all we have to do to stop the juggernaut is to capture a majority in one of the chambers.
Posted by: Greg in Dallas at November 6, 2008 6:02 PMKate, what's with the sudden anti-American bent to your posts?
Posted by: Vargo at November 6, 2008 6:05 PMChris Matthews is well on his way of supporting BO and thus putting himself out of a job. Happy talk doesn't sell. Same goes for the rest of the MSM that is fawning over BO.
As I posted somwhere else, the biggest losers are the daily KOS and the Huff post. The biggest winner by a country mile: Rush Limbaugh.
Posted by: Gord Tulk at November 6, 2008 6:18 PMAnd while I empathize with the desire by many to see a first black POTUS and all that that represents, do they really want that person to also be the worst POTUS ever? - BO has the makings of being precisely that.
Posted by: Gord Tulk at November 6, 2008 6:21 PMBe sure to read the article by Quin Hillyer from the original posting h/t.
Here is the link also; it outlines what lies ahead and it is frightening.
http://spectator.org/archives/2008/11/06/saul-alinsky-takes-the-white-h
Posted by: Rich at November 6, 2008 6:21 PMKKK Kate is on a cross burning.
No one can screw up as much as that last guy. Already forgot his name.
I hope someone asks the big O, when it counts, if he had a meeting with the Bilderbergs, and if so, what was discussed.
Ah yes. For a moment there I thought I was looking at a Triumph of the Will still.
Leni R. would be so proud.
Garth
Canadian here and never owned for 60 years except when I used to watch the Texas Rangers as a kid and had my two little six shooters. Well, this year I will ensure I get my long and short. Never know what's going to happen in the next few years.
Posted by: Rick at November 6, 2008 6:35 PMObama looks to the left and sees the RED in the posters. Yup, he's a frickin' commie.
Posted by: real conservative at November 6, 2008 7:06 PMHas Obama has been set up for the big take down?
Can you imagine the race riots and all those new laws? Not looking forward flying n'ked. Scan this, scan that and kiss the net privacy goodbye.
Just thinking and watching the world turn.
Times up:
"No one can screw up as much as that last guy. Already forgot his name."
That's EXACTLY what they said about Carter. and they were proven wrong in so many ways.
As the ancient pharaohs used to erase their predecessors names and images and replace them with their own, Obama's shall replace Jesus in the Bible.
So let it be written.
Posted by: maple stump at November 6, 2008 7:18 PMPryor as president
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtlDVi_1JMg&feature=related
The theme of the narrative is utopia, with plenty of redemption thrown in. Obama planned it and milked it with lines like:
"...generations from now we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs for the jobless."
And the classic,
"This was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal."
And lo and behold, the zombie minds had vision and purpose.
But, all they had to do was look north:
"Watch a cheerleading establishment media -- the Fourth Estate as a veritable Fifth Column -- actually back these lefty maneuvers. It's all in the name of one-man/one-vote democracy, dontcha know?"
and,
"They'll wait until Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity or Mark Levin says something innocent they can twist out of context and call "hate speech" -- and then they'll highlight some schoolyard fight where a member of a "victim group" gets the worst of it as if the "attack" were caused by..." - spectator
Hell, they'll wait.
Welcome to Canada, Democrats. A rather bloodless takeover.
Posted by: irwin daisy at November 6, 2008 7:23 PMfor those who want to dig further into what lies ahead for the Rep party I would highly recommend the podcasts of hugh Hewitt's radio show:
http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/talkradio/Show.aspx?RadioShowID=5
great stuff for the conservative politcal junkie...
Posted by: Gord Tulk at November 6, 2008 7:29 PMObama supporters have nothing to live for anymore, very funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3_95F5e-Ac
Posted by: maple stump at November 6, 2008 7:38 PMIdolatry.
Posted by: bluetech at November 6, 2008 7:49 PMDid everyone else see Ralph Nader calling Obama an "Uncle Tom" on Fox News? No, I'm serious!
Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at November 6, 2008 7:55 PMhttp://uncommontruths.blogspot.com/2008/11/not-even-his-dog-is-safe.html
MSM attacks Bush's "vicious" dog for biting a reporter.
Posted by: Dante at November 6, 2008 8:10 PMAmongst all the cheering for Obama, it's interesting to watch the reaction from the financial sector: thus far, investors have given a major thumbs-down to Obamanomics. Yet when you read about the continuing stock market decline, the MSM would have you believe this is all due to some mysterious economic "woes", and has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that America just elected a president who feels that the best tonic for the economy is to take a tax bulldozer to incomes.
Posted by: Dennis at November 6, 2008 8:19 PMdamn . . just two days and the markets have tanked.
wait until he takes over
Posted by: Fred at November 6, 2008 8:30 PMKathy, didn't Ralph Nader die about three years ago, and they've been running an animatronic puppet of him for president?
I loved Shepard Smith's face in that clip, he's just shaking his head and thinking "WTF?!"
I see today some interesting signs and portents.
First, the stock market has tanked hard two days in a row. If The One puts his foot in it tomorrow at his press conference, starts talking spread the wealth and universal health care, we could be seeing the dow under 8000 by 4pm.
Second, NYC and California are talking tax hikes. Mayor Bloomberg wants 7.5% to 15% increase in city income tax. The Governator is talking budget cuts and sales tax for the Peoples Republic of Kali.
Obama wants to raise taxes he better hurry the hell up or the states are going to beat him to it and the cupboard will be bare.
Third, the CEOs of the Big Three car makes are in Washington tonight begging Nancy Pelosi for money. Coul;d happen that they go under. Should that happen, ain't nobody going to be raising taxes because nobody will be working.
Bread lines, anyone?
Posted by: The Phantom at November 6, 2008 8:31 PMWhat's that saying again?
"Thou shalt not worship false idols"
Posted by: Hard Right at November 6, 2008 8:58 PMShawn,you must be young,think Quayle.
Posted by: wallyj at November 6, 2008 9:02 PMThe last line in the video is the best,"prepare for an onslaught of obnoxious kids name Barrack". Priceless,unfortunately true.
Posted by: wallyj at November 6, 2008 9:04 PMThe new boy is going to be facing issues - big international issues - that all his years of training and indoctrination within the comforts of domestic socialism, hope and change, ain't going to be worth shite!
Prediction: with the world's realpolitik changing as fast as it is, this boy's facing the prospects of having to outBush Bush just to stay even.
I wonder who will be the first to Photoshop a chimp's (chump's?) face on him.
http://tinyurl.com/5kkjnc
Posted by: b_C at November 6, 2008 9:12 PMHollywood and pop culture now run the US, this will prove out to be disaterous, but the giddy ones that buy and read the checkout counter rags will no doubt not notice the econmy tanking since their world is how big some trash bags hooters are or who jennifer aniston is boinking. Operah might be able to run a tv show but running the US is much harder I am sure. Get your jollies now you Obamamommas, reality is, no free mortgages and free gas for four years.
Posted by: bartinsky at November 6, 2008 9:30 PMThe only solution to all of this is a WAR. A war, dear friends, that improves morale and doesn't cost too much. And gets us some important resources, too. Let's attack Canada - we can invent an excuse later. Yes we can, my people, yes we can.
Posted by: kakola at November 6, 2008 9:36 PMObama should be given a chance. He is smart and educated and won an election campaign that no one thought he'd have a chance to win. He overcame all the racial biases. He did run a brilliant campaign. McCain had a lot going against him. His support for GWB. His privileged upbringing while claiming Obamo was an elitist. Picking Sarah Palin as his running mate ( who we now know couldn't name one country that is in the North American Free Trade Agreement ). It showed McCains lack of judgement.
Obama isn't stupid. In fact, there's already an agreement with Canada on how we can still provide the U.S. with dirty oil. It protects us and them.
Don't be so partisan that you can't see the good in this. Obama isn't stupid. He's already proved that.
The U.S. elected the best man for the job under their current situation. The people have spoken. Respect it.
Les, wait two years and we'll see how good he is then. Until then, he's a pig in the poke.
Posted by: Monique at November 6, 2008 9:49 PMChris Matthews Just wants some Man Meat from Obama. Seen swine with more class. These folks have no shame. When Reagan was President . I was happy as a dog in a grave yard. But who thinks with a sound mind that some man could deliver them to a materialistic Nirvana.
Obama I understand, but his followers are nuts. I mean instead of being happy, there as bitter as always. The media is dead . Its only destination is the pit of bad ideas. Where all failed experiments go, that have gone wrong.
Its just not me talking either. The dying Nuevo-press collage Marxist culture, speaks for itself. You can only hide truths for so long before exposure. How many more papers or magazines expire a day, or as people stop watching TV from the sheer propaganda . It never worked in the Soviet Union & it will not here.
North America has a free Press & media in name only. The have caged themselves in lies.
If it where not for the none collaged writers, we would all be in darkness. The educated ones seem the most stuck in a fantasy of a mirage chasing.
Les, wait two years and we'll see how good he is then. Until then, he's a pig in the poke.
Posted by: Monique at November 6, 2008 9:49 PM
And I do wish that people would give him that chance. No matter who won, Obama or McCain, they're inheriting a total mess. To prejudge someone isn't fair. He's already exceeded everyone's expectations and there's no reason to expect that he won't do his best to bring the U.S. out of this.
Posted by: les at November 6, 2008 9:58 PMLes, wait two years and we'll see how good he is then. Until then, he's a pig in the poke.
Posted by: Monique at November 6, 2008 9:49 PM
And I do wish that people would give him that chance. No matter who won, Obama or McCain, they're inheriting a total mess. To prejudge someone isn't fair. He's already exceeded everyone's expectations and there's no reason to expect that he won't do his best to bring the U.S. out of this.
Posted by: les at November 6, 2008 9:59 PMI'm certainly willing to give Obama a chance, but if you bother to look past the glitz and hype for just a second, several things stand out about this man; one, he is willing to say anything to anyone in order to get what he wants, and (with a tame media behind him that won't dare say "boo" about it) that doesn't seem likely to change. Two, he makes things up on the fly, and he hasn't been held to account for it; that might fly if you're a Chicago senator who can try to hide in obscurity, but when what you say is parsed through, hashed, and re-hashed by anyone that hears you speak, it probably won't last long. Three, though he might be able to absolutely count on the 12% of the US that would vote for him for no other reason than he's a black man, much of the rest of the population won't be nearly so forgiving, and they will experience severe buyer's remorse as soon as their pocketbooks start to get plowed for Obama's grand schemes.
Posted by: SDC at November 6, 2008 10:02 PMSorry for the double post. I got an error the first time.
"I'm certainly willing to give Obama a chance, but if you bother to look past the glitz and hype for just a second, several things stand out about this man; one, he is willing to say anything to anyone in order to get what he wants"
All right. Lets be honest and non-partisan for a moment. Are you saying that McCain was not willing to do anything to get what he wanted? He was completely honest in his election advertising and actually picked Sarah because he thought she would make the best VP?
Posted by: Les at November 6, 2008 10:09 PMWaaay OT ..
is Jiminy Glick running for Quebec Premier?
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/storyimage.html?id=d62e64db-9127-429e-810f-e171e85daaa0&img=dbaf0c09-74ac-4686-9cdb-98493994a0aa&path=/montrealgazette/news/
Posted by: Gord Tulk at November 6, 2008 10:14 PMwallyj @ 9:04 PM
It's already started.
Pitter patter of tiny Obamas: The biggest public hospital in Kisumu, a town in western Kenya near the village where Obama’s father was born, delivered six Obamas, two Michelles and a girl called Baracka Obama the day Obama was declared the next president of the United States.
http://inthefield.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/06/pitter-patter-of-tiny-obamas/
Posted by: maple stump at November 6, 2008 10:21 PMThe election has come and gone with the expected result.
Now we have to endure the 24 hour BO coverage until the inauguration. The cult personality building continues.
I am worried.
It is said that a man's character is judged by the company he keeps. Say what one may about Bush, but I just cannot understand why the MSM did not delve deeper into Obama's past, or even his wife's. Maybe if the Soviet Union was still around as before the fall of the wall, there would of been a different election.
I was talking to my financial consultant, from what I can glean from her is that not very many people are doing cart wheels over Obama's win. I don't think investing into US anything is not a wise move.
So many suspicions, so many questions, so much uncertainty.
How extreme he may go it is hard to say. Maybe it is time to brush up on how Lenin, Hitler etc came to power. History is there for a purpose, to learn from it. But I find somewhat perplexing that, that lesson is brushed aside because this is the 21st century and "we" are more enlightened. Funny, same was said at the turn of the 20th and the one before that and the one before that. The only constant thru the ages is man's nature.
God Bless America? May God preserve America.
I just read this news item on CNN's website:
"AIG announced last week that.... it will sell $20.9 billion of debt to the Fed and use the proceeds to pay back some of the $85 billion government bailout loan. The move allows AIG to pay down about a quarter of the loan - on which it is currently paying about 11% in interest - with money it has borrowed at 4% through the Fed's commercial paper program."
I can only guess that in the "new economic paradigm" progress is measured by paying off a loan from one government agency by taking out a new loan with another government agency.
I can just see shell games like this being the hallmark of an Obama presidency.
Posted by: Dennis at November 6, 2008 10:26 PM"So many suspicions, so many questions, so much uncertainty.
How extreme he may go it is hard to say. Maybe it is time to brush up on how Lenin, Hitler etc came to power. History is there for a purpose, to learn from it. But I find somewhat perplexing that, that lesson is brushed aside because this is the 21st century and "we" are more enlightened. Funny, same was said at the turn of the 20th and the one before that and the one before that. The only constant thru the ages is man's nature.
God Bless America? May God preserve America."
I wish the U.S. the best too. When Bush came to office many people were afraid that the worst would happen. In fact, more people than are worried here. He didn't win the popular vote, Obama did. And guess what, their fears came true. A country into recession, wars ongoing, heavily into debt, Americans losing their homes and jobs. What kind of fear are you referring to that could be worse than this? Bush enherited a country that was in good shape and left it in shambles. For someone else to pick up the pieces and repair it.
No President, whether it be Obama or McCain can perform miracles, but for you to assume that a different approach would result in something even worse than what they have is silly. If they had continued on their same approach, it would have been disaster. McCain did represent more of the same. Who in their right mind continues on the same path when they're headed for disaster and it's been shown that that course doesn't work? Is it the hope that somehow doing the same thing over and over will produce a different result?
I haven't read the previous comments. So you cannot say that I went to bed with the first gal that would. (An Auld Aphorism)
The "Obama" win has defined a generation in the same way that John F Kennedy did way back in the early sixties. Fight that if you will (or can).
It took 30 years before Kennedy's fabled legacy faded into a whole bunch of question marks.
Obama has and will define our generation and many generations to come. It is up to Canadians to accept and adapt or influence as best we can.
One can rightly rail against Bush but I challenge you lefties to complain about future Obama decisions because his cause is America's cause which MAY not be ours.
Also you Canadian Conservatives need to remember that American Democrats have always been closer to you in philosophy than the Republicans.
Posted by: Hoarfrost at November 6, 2008 11:00 PMAnd BTW, I believe in Conservative values and have voted for them. But when a gov't shows that they just pretend to represent those values, but don't practice them, they don't deserve your support. The Bush Administration increased gov't, dramatically increased gov't spending, appointed people because of their party affiliation instead of experience, pronounced loudly that deficits didn't matter and drove their economy into a recession. They lied to get people into a war which resulted in thousands of deaths on both sides, violated the constitution and the laws of the land, instigated torture and tried to explain it away why it was acceptable, started spying on their own people and hid it from them, etc. etc. Sorry, this kind does not deserve respect at all.
Canada, a country that was run by liberals and a socialized agenda while the U.S. was run by the Republicans at the same time, you think you might notice that we're doing better than them. Especially economically. How do you explain that?
Do you think if we were run by a party like the Republicans for the last 10 years we'd be doing as well?
The hard right doesn't work. The far left doesn't work. Every country needs a combination of Conservative and liberal values to work. Every country in the world that works has that. The U.S. goes back and forth between Republicans and Democrats. It provides balance.
You kids seem to be taking this hard...but if it makes you feel better, all this media stuff is set to work in your favor: build him up then tear him down. the really dirty secret of this election is that it's about the American people waking up. It's about the complete repudiation of Bush and Cheney and folks like you. That's the story we can't talk about. So my friends...cheer at the media circus rather than hate it...it's all for you. Even if it won't work, I kind of hate to see ya look a gift horse in the teeth
Posted by: harumph at November 6, 2008 11:15 PMIt's interesting that people like Les would blame George W Bush for every bird that fell out of the sky.
After Bill Clinton's holiday from history that eventually led to 9/11 it became GWB's mess to clean up, for which he was reviled by Democrats (who conveniently forgot that they had made all the same statements about WMD's in Iraq when Clinton was in charge). So it will be quite hilarious to hear Obama suddenly seeking bipartisanship now.
The willful ignorance on who caused of the subprime crisis is quite precious. Frannie Mae and Freddie Mac were Democratic projects (all the way back to the Community Reinvestment Act). There is plenty of You Tube video available on Barnie Frank defending Fran and Fred from new Regulation (proposed by Bush and even McCain).
Opensecrets.org will show you that Obama took more money per year than any other US Senator. What did Fran and Fred think they were buying?
So ironically, Obama and the Democrats now get to clean up the Subprime mess they helped defend and enable. And since they have keys to all levels of government, they can't blame anyone else.
Pull out the popcorn, this will be quite interesting to watch.
Posted by: Dave in AB at November 6, 2008 11:17 PM"So it will be quite hilarious to hear Obama suddenly seeking bipartisanship now."
Obama has actually asked for bipatisan co-operation. He's also asked for everyone, black, white, male, female, same sex, opposite sex, etc. to come together. He's also asked for the countries of the world to come together to solve the economic crisis. He has recieved and talked to many countries in the world. Harper supports him. Iran has congratulated him ( first time in 40 years ). The American jewish population voted over 70% in support of him. Why would you have a problem with that?
Um...dave...bush was warned by several forign govenrments that 9/11 would happen(Israel, France, Egypt, Russia, Jordan to name the more prominant, and by the outgoing clinton admin as well as the FBI, but bush did nothing but go on vacaTION.
THESE ARE WELL KNOWN FACTS, SO I'M NOT SURE WHY YOU KEEP BLAMING CLINTOON. YOUR ANAALYSIS OF THE SUB PRIME MORTAGE DEAL IS EQUALLY RETARDED. there, I've yelled iy so you can't pretend it's just a bad hearing aide...
dave, yer a moron. I mean this stuff just happened a few years ago, the sub prime thing...well, weeks ago. good christ.
Posted by: harumph at November 6, 2008 11:31 PMUm...dave...bush was warned by several foriegn govenrments that 9/11 would happen(Israel, France, Egypt, Russia, Jordan to name the more prominant, and by the outgoing clinton admin as well as the FBI, but bush did nothing but go on vacaTION.
THESE ARE WELL KNOWN FACTS, SO I'M NOT SURE WHY YOU KEEP BLAMING CLINTOON. YOUR ANALYSIS OF THE SUB PRIME MORTAGE DEAL IS EQUALLY RETARDED. there, I've yelled it so you can't pretend it's just a bad hearing aide...
dave, yer a moron. I mean this stuff just happened a few years ago, the sub prime thing...well, weeks ago. good christ.
Posted by: harumph at November 6, 2008 11:31 PMThe Ten Commandments given to Chris "Tingly Leg" Matthews are these: (abbreviated form)
1. You shall not worship any other god but Obama.
2. You shall not make a graven image other than Obama
3. You shall not take the name of Obama in vain.
4. You shall not break the Hope and Change.
5. You shall not dishonor your Obama.
6. You shall not murder Obama.
7. You shall not commit adultery except with Obama
8. You shall not steal from Obama. He shall redistribute your wealth.
9. You shall not commit perjury unless you are Chris Matthews and protecting Obama.
10. You shall not have any Inalienable Rights.
Posted by: Hard Right at November 6, 2008 11:32 PMharumph.
I do blame Bush for ignoring all the warnings on 9/11 but the mortgage crisis was a combination of Republican and Democrats. The safeguards against that happening were put in after the great depression and they were taken off in 1999. The republicans ( because of lobbying efforts by the insurance companies and banks ) wanted to allow them to combine mortgages and high risk investments. Initially the democrats were opposed but after several readings they supported it. Clinton signed it. I remember reading a speech given by a Dem at the time that actually predicted that it would take 10 years and the market would collaspe. He was off by 1 year but he basically had it pegged.
The gov't is there to regulate. They failed in this job. What is totally disgusting is that they gave a 700 billion bail out package to the banks ( which included 70 billion in severance packages for those responsible ) and call themselves a free market society. That was one of the biggest socialist packages in history.
Are there certain words that will be blocked on here? I posted and it's not going thru. I don't recall posting anything that should be blocked.
Posted by: Les at November 7, 2008 12:03 AMSo harumph, that explains why there were no Isralies in the WTC. Nor French, Egyptians, Russians, Jordanians, the Clintons, the FBI...
Posted by: Boots at November 7, 2008 12:30 AM"Obama has actually asked for bipatisan co-operation."
Of course he will. The precious part is that Obama has never been bi-partisan in his political career. Ever. Now that he has the top job and his own image is on the line, now he suddenly wants cooperation.
If he thinks that bi-partisanship is having people just do what he tells them to do, then I'd say Good Luck with that.
"The American jewish population voted over 70% in support of him."
So why do you believe that number is significant? It's around the same number that vote for Democrats in every election.
From Wikipedia (American_Jews - Politics):
"Since 1968, American Jews have voted about 70%-80% Democratic, increasing to 87% for Democratic House candidates during the 2006 elections.[2] Jimmy Carter (1976) is the only Democrat after Roosevelt to be elected president with less than 78% of the Jewish vote.[3][4] In 1992, 1996, and 2000, Bill Clinton and later, Al Gore each won 79% of the Jewish vote, and in 2004, John Kerry, a Catholic, received 74%."
"Why would you have a problem with that?"
I've got no problem with that at all. But Obama will rapidly discover that running for the Presidency was the easy part, actually being President will be much much harder.
The reality of Leadership means making decisions (no more voting "present"), that will not make everyone happy. Clinton had to move to the center to get things done. Will Obama compromise? Can Obama compromise? Will his most fervent supporters be happy with him when he does?
We'll have this conversation again in 2 years. As I said before, this will be very interesting to watch.
Posted by: Dave in AB at November 7, 2008 12:45 AMWow, how Maoist. I did some comparing of Obama and Maoist posters...scary stuff!
I'm not sure what the excitement is over these speeches, to be honest, the content seems to reduce to this:
"I will change. Help me change. You can help me change. I will help you change. We can help each other change."
Shit, when I was fifteen, we called that gym class.
Posted by: Peter O'Donnell at November 7, 2008 12:57 AMLes,
Speaking for myself, I will not be joining you in singing praises for Obama on his win. I'd rather wait until he is actually doing the job before I make my assessment about his performance, his achievements, and his failures.
None of the fluff that you've continued to post is going to change my mind about Obama at the moment. And I tend to avoid worshiping an idol solely because everyone else is doing it. He doesn't start the job for two months, so while you are suggesting that some of the posters here not pre-judge him, I'd suggest you do the same. It sounds like you're giving the guy a lot of credit when the only time the public has seen him was during his campaign and whatever the MSM has fed you. I'd rather wait to see what he puts into action.
Posted by: Chairman Kaga at November 7, 2008 1:05 AM[quote]Did everyone else see Ralph Nader calling Obama an "Uncle Tom" on Fox News? No, I'm serious![/quote]
Kathy,
Nader is caught between a rock & a hard place...MSNBC Chris M was a Nader boy, now a Obama boy, Nader has been rejected. Man Meat can be tough
>So harumph, that explains why there were no Isralies in the WTC. Nor French, Egyptians, Russians, Jordanians, the Clintons, the FBI...
Posted by: Boots at November 7, 2008 12:30 AM
No, but it might explains why John Ashkroft suddenly stopped flying commercial, and Condoleeza rice called up the ex mayor of LA and told him not to fly to the east coast that week...anyway, why doncha read the 9/11 commision report. it's quite interesting.
Posted by: harumph at November 7, 2008 3:33 AM>So harumph, that explains why there were no Isralies in the WTC. Nor French, Egyptians, Russians, Jordanians, the Clintons, the FBI...
Posted by: Boots at November 7, 2008 12:30 AM
No, but it might explains why John Ashkroft suddenly stopped flying commercial, and Condoleeza rice called up the ex mayor of LA and told him not to fly to the east coast that week...anyway, why doncha read the 9/11 commision report. it's quite interesting.
Posted by: harumph at November 7, 2008 3:33 AM"YOUR ANALYSIS OF THE SUB PRIME MORTAGE DEAL IS EQUALLY RETARDED."
You mean the "Community Development Initiative" that was greatly expanded under Clinton? Yes, why don't you give us your analysis of that fiasco?
Posted by: Edward Teach at November 7, 2008 5:14 PMO confuses an astrologer with a medium, er media, er MSM?
O is a gaffer.
BTW, they "had a warm conversation".
Video included.
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"Obama apologizes to Nancy Reagan for 'careless' joke
President-elect Barack Obama called Nancy Reagan this afternoon to apologize for a joke about her having held "séances" in the White House, an Obama aide said"
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1108/Obama_apologizes_to_Nancy_Reagan.html
All those pictures of Obama on the street remind me of the Governments of Saddam's Iraq or Mao's China.
Posted by: J at November 10, 2008 7:20 PM