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November 3, 2008

Not Nearly As Ugly As It Will Get If McCain Wins

"If McCain loses, it may get ugly ..."
If the Obamessiah should lose, the rage that will erupt on the left towards McCain will make the last 8 years of Bush hatred seem like a vague distaste for cream sauce.

And that is my only prediction for the 2008 Presidential Election.

Update: Others are more bold...

Posted by Kate at November 3, 2008 9:27 AM
Comments

Kate - if clicking on *that* is supposed to take us to a link of some sort - it isn't working.

Posted by: a different Bob at November 3, 2008 9:07 AM

Not a link, but I changed it to italics to avoid confusion.

Posted by: Kate at November 3, 2008 9:13 AM

I still think the FCC-mandated switch to digital broadcasting in February will be the biggest factor in the rioting and looting and the election result merely a pretext. Gots to be able to watch the Lakers, sho nuf.

Posted by: Charles MacDonald at November 3, 2008 9:18 AM

I expect widespread Rodney-King-style rioting if Obama goes down. Because... you know... the results will be racist.

Posted by: mark peters at November 3, 2008 9:23 AM

Well, I'll make a prediction. The polls are skewed, as usual, and Americans are going to pick the only choice we have, Palin, and oh yeah, that old guy she hangs around with....

Posted by: Peggy Snow Cahill at November 3, 2008 9:28 AM

Kate,

I, too, fear that there will be rioting in the US tomorrow, regardless of who wins the election. But, if Barrack loses - and if the primaries are any indication, he will lose - the rioting will never end. History has taught that there is nothing more violent than an angry socialist.

Posted by: Trent at November 3, 2008 9:28 AM

I 100% agree, I fear for America no matter who wins. If Obama, for the socialism that will be delivered to them wrapped in hope and change. If McCain, for the race-based violence that will erupt.

Posted by: Shane at November 3, 2008 9:30 AM

Doubts about Obama, I have many. But if the polls are correct he will win. I agree with the sentiment in the article, "this too shall pass".

Obama will either be successful or not. There is a huge swing contingent that are voting for him that would drop him, as they would any leader, if there are bad times over some time.

The question is more for 4 years from now. Will there be trouble in 2012 if he loses and he has not done a good job. That's going to be the real test....but to that end, whoever wins tomorrow, lets hope, for all our sake, that they do a better than average job, or at least an average job as President. A below avaerage President is the last thing anyone needs right now.

Posted by: Stephen at November 3, 2008 9:37 AM

And the one thing Trudeau said that made sense was reference to us, Canada, in bed with a sleeping elephant.(Exact quote anyone?)

She's about to roll over and fart...get ready!

Posted by: bluetech at November 3, 2008 9:40 AM

Relax folks.

This contest is not as important as the media would lead you to believe.

Most Americans, like most people everywhere, are more interested in a full stomach and exhausted genitals than they are in the leadership of government.

It'll take more than a smooth-talking hustler to stamp out Freedom in America.

Posted by: peter o'keefe at November 3, 2008 9:40 AM

Peter, I might agree with you if the average age of Supreme Court justices was 55.

Posted by: Kate at November 3, 2008 9:50 AM

It's the "most important election in history", and I've been hearing that since Ike was running.

Obama by a nose, no payout for "place' or "show".

Posted by: dmorris at November 3, 2008 9:53 AM

Not only that - but if McCain wins - Oprah's 2 day "Election Extravaganza" will be one sorry program with the weeping and blaming.

I hope for it, just so I can see how the "extravaganza" is handled when Oprah doesn't get what she wants.

Posted by: Alberta Girl at November 3, 2008 9:55 AM

I predict that America will come to its senses and elect McCain/Palin. Whatever results from that choice will be better than the disaster that Obama/Biden will deliver.

Posted by: ducktrapper at November 3, 2008 10:24 AM

Alberta Girl. I think that also applies to most of those women on "Th eView"

Posted by: Ghost of Ed at November 3, 2008 10:25 AM

Can't you just imagine the finger pointing from the left if Obama loses. It would equal that of a compass on a merry-go-round with their in-house press core, CNN, leading the charge.

I still can't see American the great stooping to the depths of a socialist wind bag as their President. Black, white or purple, a disaster in the making for future generations.

Posted by: Western Canadian at November 3, 2008 10:33 AM

If McCain loses, America loses. As will the world.

I see no good coming out of an Obama victory.

If there's riots after a McCain win, then it will prove that the Left is racist and violent.

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at November 3, 2008 10:34 AM

"If there's riots after a McCain win, then it will prove that the Left is racist and violent."


The sad thing Canadian sentinel is the left using these threats as a voting strategy, and they have,

Vote for us or we'll get violent!

Thats a double plus good reason to vote against them.

Posted by: dinosaur at November 3, 2008 10:40 AM

I agree with Trent. Riots will occur no matter whether Omaba wins or loses. If indeed he loses, the rift between the races will be wider than ever since the '60's. In any event, there's going to be a few less housing projects standing and a few less TV's in shop windows come Wednesday morning. Few less people on the planet, too.

Posted by: Gerry Atric at November 3, 2008 10:43 AM

America lived through the four years of Jimmy the peanut farmer and eight years of Slick Willie. The tab for Jimmy came to some serious coin, it took Ronald Regan to pull them out of that slump and finally win the Cold War that Carter was busy losing.

Right now we (America catches the cold, Canada gets pneumonia) are paying Slick Willie's tab for all that affirmative action vote buying in the 1990's, and unfortunately the mega leverage scam from the Bush administration too. (WTF were they thinking?!!!) A lot of people getting hurt bad. America will live through it though, its only money.

I'm thinking the Obama tab is going to rival Jimmy Carter, easy. He's going to be an expensive mistake for the USA, particularly if he gets to appoint a bunch of yes-men to the Supreme Court like Kate mentioned.

McCain probably won't do anything spectacularly idiotic. That'd be my bet, were I an American. Sucks to have that as a choice, but that's what you get for not kicking the Republican Party in the bag every week for the last 20 years. The price of freedom is a lot of kicking. (CPC voters take note, -now- is the time to be pestering your MPs and party factotums. Lean on 'em hard, kids.)

Tomorrow we find out how many people bought the hype. Keep your powder dry, my friends.

Posted by: The Phantom at November 3, 2008 10:50 AM

Another way to look at the Left's threatening violence in the event that Obama doesn't win is...

They're saying, effectively, that the only way to keep the peace in America is to elect the guy they like. Failure to elect him, they say, will lead to something approaching what might resemble civil war (what's most commonly called "riots").

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at November 3, 2008 10:51 AM

Certainly Obama is a 'socialist windbag'. He is also personally a narcissist, and both a pawn and user of the Democratic Party and its corruption.

But I don't see the American people as socialists; their constitution is based on the rights and responsibilities of the individual.

I wonder if there's another factor at play for the broad mass appeal of Obama, and the public's willing indifference to his leftist socialism and his emptiness.

I wonder if Americans are fed up with being their post WWII role as Saviour of the World, required to step in with money and assistance, both in manpower and military, in problems all over the world. And vilified for its actions.

The UN, which was set up for this role has instead degenerated into a corrupt self-serving massive set of fat bureaucrats.

I wonder if, for the average American, this focus on Obama is not about his socialism which they seem to ignore because for most of them, socialism has no reality...but is instead, a focus on protectionism. On a withdrawal of the US from the world and a feeling that others in the world ought to take on this role.

Posted by: ET at November 3, 2008 10:51 AM

I agree. Rioting no matter who wins.
If McCain wins the Oba-maniacs will go nuts. If Obama wins his supporters will celebrate in the same way fanatics do when the home team wins the cup.

Posted by: Ghost of Ed at November 3, 2008 10:53 AM

I've got my popcorn ready;-p

Posted by: Indiana Homez at November 3, 2008 10:55 AM

Go McCain/Palin!
The Dems MAY have divided and conquered, for now. The heavy investments in blood and treasure towards a more Democratic ME will be gambled, could be lost. Black against white, men against women, rich against poor, life for convicted killers over life for helpless babies, previous agreements and investments undermined or abandoned. It is ugly. And the Chicago Exchange will push government mandated carbon credits as "investments". Must remember, Chicago is where pigs go to be slaughtered. Also, I don't think Obama was properly vetted by the Dems, but once elected, he will be and the Clinton Whitewater Investigation could look like a stroll in the park.

John McCain and Sarah Palin might lose but they are not going to die, so please, no eulogys, and a minority in Congress does not mean no power. With less to lose, minoritys can be effective. The Dems will have to enact legislation and the Congress critters have phones and emails and constituients who know how to use them. So pass the beer and popcorn. Win or lose, McCain and Palin and other Republicans must go back to work. Big infrastruture jobs will be ongoing. Alaska, Canada and The Lower 48 need that pipeline. Gov. Palin will still get important work done there.

Posted by: concrete at November 3, 2008 11:08 AM

Obama is clearly the front-runner but I think that he will lose. His support base relies heavily on unreliable voters. Since the polls are showing such an Obama landslide these voter, such as young people and other first time voters, may not go through with the hassle of voting. Republicans, OTOH, will go to the polls even if they have little hope of winning because they see voting as a civic duty (similar to voting trends among CPC and NDP). Given that the margins in the battleground states are much closer than they appear, this may turn into a surprise McCain victory.

Regardless, there will be riots. The US is entering an era where the divide between left and right are opening up into a wide chasm. I predict that these divisions will result in fly-over country alienation similar to western Canadian alienation. The similarities between Trudeau and Obama are eerie. From energy to redistribution to constitutional leanings. Obama is also being supported and protected by the same class of people.

Posted by: lynnh at November 3, 2008 11:17 AM

It's not the racial factor about this election which concerns me, it's the "agenda" of the political left...

If the polls are correct and Obama wins the Presidency then get ready for the New World Order....

America's economy will be destroyed, the "fairness doctrine" will censor all media, the troops will be withdrawn from Iraq and Afghanistan in disgrace, and the US government will triple in size...

this is the most important election in our history and if Obama wins then America's enemies are going to take over...

Posted by: Brad at November 3, 2008 11:18 AM

Hey the Coaster's did a tune like that back in the golden fifties:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4a_XKM-nPQ&feature=related

Riot in Cell Block #9

July the second, it was nineteen sixty-three
I was servin' time for armed robbery
Four o'clock in the mornin', I was layin' back in my cell
I heard the whistle blow then I heard somebody yell

There's a riot goin' on
There's a riot goin' on
There's a riot goin' on
Down in cell block number 9

The riot started down in cell block number 4
Spread like wild fire across the prison floor
Scar-face Jones said, "It's too late to quit"
Pass the dynamite 'cause the fuse is lit

There's a riot goin' on
There's a riot goin' on
There's a riot goin' on
Down in cell block number 9

Y'all gotta stop that stuff goin' on over there
If ya don't stop that riot, y'all gonna get the chair
I said, "Hey now boys, get ready to run
Here come the warden with a tommy gun"

There's a riot goin' on
There's a riot goin' on
There's a riot goin' on
Down in cell block number 9

In the forty-seventh hour the tear gas
It got our men
We are all back in our cells
But every now and then

There's a riot goin' on
There's a riot goin' on
There's a riot goin' on
Down in cell block number 9

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/11/03/2408290.htm


Republican John McCain boldly declared "Mac is Back" as he predicted victory in his election race with Democrat Barack Obama at a rally in the battleground state of Pennsylvania.

The fired-up 72-year-old Arizona senator, who is trailing Senator Obama in polls, renewed his attacks on his opponent's patriotism and tax plans in a rally before several hundred supporters crammed into a school gymnasium.

"I've been in a lot of campaigns, I know when momentum is there. We're going to win Pennsylvania, we're going to win this election," Senator McCain said.

"I sense it, I feel it, I know it.

"I say again my friends, we're going to win here. We've got two days, knock on doors, with your help we can win. We need you to volunteer, we need a new direction and we have to fight for it.

"My friends - the Mac is Back."

Get ready for another "Beer and Acorn" or is that "Beer and Popcorn" moment.


Cheers


Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

Frankenstein Battalion
2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)
Knecht Rupprecht Division
Hans Corps
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at November 3, 2008 11:23 AM

if BO wins it will be the most entertaining 4 years of political history ever.

He will have to disappoint groups to play one promise off against the other . . . and since he has made sooooooooooooo many promises the potential for disappointment is soooooooooooooooo great.

Just wait - by month 12, the Koz Kiddies will turn on BO as he shuffles his policies to accommodate the $$$$ democrats.

Posted by: Fred at November 3, 2008 11:30 AM

I think McCain/Palin will pull this thing out and I also think (like concrete's comment) that life will go on. One thing that also might be good with a McCain/Palin win could be the final nail in the coffin for all these media hypsters and pollsters - because it will be realized that they cannot influence the American people.

Posted by: cconn at November 3, 2008 11:37 AM

Re: "Rioting if Obama loses." You didn't do a whole lot of thinking and/or research before you posted that, Kate. Twenty Fours hours before the election, don't you believe we should just wait and see what happens. I believe McCain will suffer the biggest loss in recent USA history. And really, after a revolution and a civil war, a good riot is now long overdue. If you really hate blacks that bad, there are great anger therapists in S'toon. They'll get a cushion, pin a photo of Obama (Matin Luther King, Sammy Davis Junior etc. etc.,) on the surface, and you can go at them with a foam bat. No one gets hurt, Kate gets rid of her anger, and everyone good home happy. My buddy was court ordered to do that, simply because he hated his "Ex." In the end, he discovered that all along, he really loved her. They just weren't "compatible." (Or should I say, com-bat-able.)

Posted by: Reality Sucks at November 3, 2008 11:42 AM

Don't worry folks, if Obama loses he will simply tell his supporters to calmly accept the choice that America has made in its wisdon, and to peacefully celebrate the great strides that were made during this historic campaign, and to begin preparing for 2012.

I mean how hard could it possibly be to reign in your supporters behavior, compared to saving the plantet?

Posted by: ward at November 3, 2008 11:47 AM

Speaking of "The View", the great Dennis Miller was on O'Reilly the other day. He said: "Who knew that Rosie O'Donnell was the smart one?"

Posted by: Mike Kelley at November 3, 2008 11:54 AM

If Obama does somehow lose (I'm pretty sure he's going to win) there WILL be riots in the streets. That's a fact. There will be some very upset Obama supporters.

Obama will win. It won't be a huge landslide like Raegan had. It will be somewhere between the size of the Clinton and Bush victories.

Posted by: M at November 3, 2008 12:04 PM

I'm not that optimistic that McCain can pull this off. He hasn't been very effective in my opinion in conveying the only messge that matters, a strong economic message, forget Iraq and national security, the American public is focused on the economy. The empty promises uttered and forever shifting from Obama's mouth have no money in reality to ever be implemented, sadly, too many sheeple here are too economically challeneged to get that. Obama isn't going to protect their little personal turf. They will understand that when it is too late. The middle class will shoulder this folly and it won't be pretty.

Four years of Obama and Nancy Pelosi and we will be a diminished country by every metric. I guess the lessons of history are too easily forgotten and must be repeated every few generations.

Jimmy Carter was aberration, misguided and spineless, he cost us dearly over the decades. He empowered every third rate thug to have a go at the US like the Iranian hostage takers with impunity. I can't even image with drooling salivation the joy that people that wish us harm will be feeling with an Obama win tomorrow.

I've already mentally moved on to the 2012 election. The media can't hold Obama up for four years of utter policy failures on every front.

Posted by: penny at November 3, 2008 12:04 PM

Reading the comments here, I'm reminded of something.

Posted by: Ted at November 3, 2008 12:07 PM

We obliviously gravitate to our own, as I do not know well one Democrat, all my frinds/aquaintances are Republican. I agree with you ET but socialism is like cancer, it starts and grows with one being unaware. Overall yes, I feel the same.

Should McCain win, and I do believe he will, I agree with others that all the sign waving tantrum throwing children will be shrieking to and with the press. As well that segment of the population that spins it's wheels year after year in self pity will probably be out demonstrating their god given right to burn and loot to show their displeasure in the democratic process.

Posted by: Western Canadian at November 3, 2008 12:10 PM

Posted by: peter o'keefe at November 3, 2008 9:40 AM
"Most Americans, like most people everywhere, are more interested in a full stomach and exhausted genitals than they are in the leadership of government."

That sounds a lot like 'clinging to our guns and our Bibles' speak. Don't sell us short in fly-over country. We know a snake-oil salesman when we hear one.

Posted by: Canadian Sentinel at November 3, 2008 10:34 AM

"If there's riots after a McCain win, then it will prove that the Left is racist and violent."

The Left has ALREADY proven that they are racist, with a bent toward violence if they don't get their way. Obama only made riots a given because he is the one who made this election about race.

Posted by: Yoop at November 3, 2008 12:11 PM

*
well... if any place in america is gonna be burned
to the ground... it'll start with chicago.

sleep well, saint barry.

*

Posted by: neo at November 3, 2008 12:12 PM

"Re: "Rioting if Obama loses." You didn't do a whole lot of thinking and/or research before you posted that, Kate"

Skipping out on remedial reading class again, eh Sucks?

Posted by: Kate at November 3, 2008 12:15 PM

Posted by: Reality Sucks at November 3, 2008 11:42 AM

"And really, after a revolution and a civil war, a good riot is now long overdue. If you really hate blacks that bad, there are great anger therapists in S'toon."

Damn, your "Reality" does really "Suck". Glad I'm not you.

Kate is doing nothing more than posting the exact thoughts that a good portion of us in the MidWest, with middle-America values, have been thinking for quite a while. It's nothing at all to do with hating blacks. It's everything to do with a black making the election all about him being black. See if your "reality" can get you past that one.

Posted by: Yoop at November 3, 2008 12:50 PM

To "Yoop" and "Kate." I stand corrected. E-mail me tomorrow night after the USA polls close!!

Posted by: Reality Sucks at November 3, 2008 1:01 PM

PS: Re: Kate is doing nothing more than posting the exact thoughts that a good portion of us in the Midwest, with middle-America values, have been thinking for quite while....."
Yes, and I've done nothing more than post the thoughts and feelings of those poor people of lower class America who cannot speak and think for themselves, because the so called "middle class" have not yet devised a viable education system."

Posted by: Reality Sucks at November 3, 2008 1:08 PM

Aside from the fact that you flatter Obama by calling him a socialist (has anyone ever been a bigger shill for capitalism than Obama?), I get the sense that you good folk around here are using the term "socialism" pejoratively. :-)

I stated on here back during the DNC, that this contest was over. The DNC was the dunk that could not be trumped. Palin was a good response but redundant. It will always already have been too late.

If I'm wrong I'll gladly admit pace you all that an Ice Age is indeed around the corner and that sustainable economies are for suckas. I too will live by the creed "Give me overabundantly or give me not at all", having of course burned all my Alan Greenspan "How's capitalism working for you?" t-shirts.

Posted by: Bill Stewart at November 3, 2008 1:17 PM

Our education system does teach things you apparently missed, such as the intended use of a dictionary. Here's part of what you have been missing.

con·text (kŏntĕkst′)
n.
1. The part of a text or statement that surrounds a particular word or passage and determines its meaning.

2. The circumstances in which an event occurs; a setting.

[Middle English, composition, from Latin contextus, from past participle of contexere, to join together : com-, com- + texere, to weave; see teks- in Indo-European roots.]

Posted by: Yoop at November 3, 2008 1:17 PM

But I don't see the American people as socialists; their constitution is based on the rights and responsibilities of the individual.

Forget where now, but the other day I read about a survey in which a slight majority expressed a preference for bigger government and more services, whereas in 2000 the edge was +15% for smaller government.

Me: I've been a libertarian for most of my adult life but lately I'm thinking that maybe I should take up another hobby, one with at least some prospect of success: maybe the search for extra-terrestial life which seems a more propitious pursuit than for smaller, constitutionally limited government.

Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at November 3, 2008 1:29 PM

reality sucks - what an incredibly arrogant and elitist statement you just made, that you consider yourself the spokesman for 'those poor people of lower class America who cannot speak and think for themselves'.

Everyone has the capacity to think and speak; you don't require any special education to do so. You simply require the will, on your own individual part, to think for yourself, to be curious, to explore - rather than allowing others, such as you, Reality Sucks, to take away those rights and abilities.

How dare you assume abrogate those rights and assign them to yourself? Again, no education system anywhere, is going to instill curiosity and self-reliance. But, an elitist such as you, can polemically insist to these people, that you will do their thinking and speaking for them.

No, Obama's ideas have nothing to do with capitalism and a great deal to do with socialism. The very essence of socialism is 'levelling', where you level the wealth capacity and productivity and results of an economy to a narrow range. You do this by constant removel of any wealth above a certain threshold and redistributing it to the population. The goal is a narrow wealth range.

Result? The economy slithers to a dead halt. Socialist or levelled economies are 'no-growth' economies. The focus is on stability and therefore, the means of change, which is dissent and differences, are removed from the scene.

Capitalism enables change, innovation and progress, because it permits a wide range of wealth distribution. It does this because it leaves the power-to-make wealth in the hands of the producer. This wealth is then distributed to the wider population in a different manner than the socialist method. It's distributed by wages, by private foundations, by entrepreneurs, etc. In other words, it's distributed in return for 'work', while the socialist system distributes wealth in return for...nothing.

The term 'sustainable economy' is meaningless. All economies must sustain their population and their resources.

Posted by: ET at November 3, 2008 1:36 PM

New to the thread here, so this may have already been said. As much as I dread an Obama victory, a McCain win would set off a firestorm not seen since the Civil War. And while the battlelines were fairly clear back then (North and South), this conflict would be on every streetcorner, and every household.

Posted by: tower at November 3, 2008 2:03 PM

Posted by: ET at November 3, 2008 1:36 PM

"reality sucks - what an incredibly arrogant and elitist statement you just made..."

But isn't that exactly what the Obama campaign has been exhibiting as common traits through the entire primary and general election campaigns? Arrogance and elitism have seemed to easily flow from Obama and his minions at the times they thought they were not being "on the record" or when they believed they were with like-minded souls.

Obama has pretty much let it be known, in unguarded moments, that he considered the middle and lower class electorate, that clings to their guns and bibles, a group that needs/requires the firm hand and quidance of a well-intentioned and benevolent government. Of course the wealthy class must be willing, and consider it a patriotic duty, to give a greater portion of their wealth to assure the government can meet these *obligations*. Thusly, no further thought or feeling required.

Kind of a reversal:

Thought and feeling: no service

No thought, no feeling: free service.

It's that reality that really sucks.

Posted by: Yoop at November 3, 2008 2:11 PM

"The similarities between Trudeau and Obama are eerie. From energy to redistribution to constitutional leanings. Obama is also being supported and protected by the same class of people."

True dat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBMdWxcFXQg

Posted by: Indiana Homez at November 3, 2008 2:43 PM

the last 30 seconds is Obama heading for the seat of power, after leaving the scene of someone complaining about welfare.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecXT1fMuEZw&feature=related

Posted by: cal2 at November 3, 2008 2:45 PM

Ostrich pic Ted? They live in Africa don't they?

You need to find a better pic like this one of BIG LIVE ANIMALS:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7MuFDVEUro&feature=related

Mother Cougar vs Grizzly Bear

Grizzly bear goes hibernatin' cause winter is coming.

For all there huffing and bluffing, that you get from the 'godless socialists' about religious nuts, given the "Democratically inspired Acorn" rubbish, one could return the appellation now:

"God does not want Democratic Acorn nuts, but rather spiritual fruit."

There is your 'Beer and Acorn' moment Ted!

..."and God Bless You."


Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

Frankenstein Battalion
2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)
Knecht Rupprecht Division
Hans Corps
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at November 3, 2008 2:47 PM

That's a great clip, Hans. But, alas, I think the ostrich image, which was meant for readers here predicting a McCain win and not meant for McCain, is the appropriate one. How one can think McCain is going to win tomorrow is like think Dion had a chance of becoming Prime Minister in the last week of the campaign. And it is not going to be a squeeker either.

Posted by: Ted at November 3, 2008 2:59 PM


Hang in there Penny, we ain't dead yet.

First thing the Media reported was that John could die at any minute then came ACORN registering 2 Million new Democrats then came the Polls showing John down then came the graphs showing Obama winning the Electoral Votes then came the massive endorsements from the Big Three Newspapers, the Alphabet Channels and Hollywood's Most Rich and Famous (who are almost as dead as McCain) then came the bombardment of the Internet from Obama's Truth Squad and try as they might and $900 Million Dollars later, still can't get Obama past the 50% mark with 8-12 points floating around UN-Decided. Their whole plan is too discourage you from Voting.

This ain't no Cake-Walk for Obama and we know first hand the Media is corrupt, has no morals, will fix the polls (2000 and 2004) and is Bought and Paid for by the DNC, Soros and Buffet. I don't see any polls showing what those 18 Million pee-od Hillary Voters are gona do. That's one Poll you sure as hell won't see. They are not polling likely Jews and they are walking around the Latinos with kid gloves. The only polls making the rounds is what percentage of White Men are stupid enuf to vote for Liberal Socialism.

So, basically let me sum this up, the Media is LYING, they should be hung for Treason and Sedition for what they have been pulling the last 8 years. I live in fly-over-country and doubt very seriously that Obama will win, now if by some miracle, or massive Voter Fraud he does get elected we will not start any riots, but we will not let our houses be burned, either.

Semper Fi and keep that powder dry.
,

Posted by: Ratt at November 3, 2008 3:04 PM

Oh gead, that was poorly typed. Should have been:

"Anyone thinking McCain is going to win tomorrow is like thinking Dion had a chance of becoming Prime Minister in the last week of the Canadian campaign."

Posted by: Ted at November 3, 2008 3:09 PM

Typical Republican voter tricks:

Virginia State Police may press charges against the person responsible for a bogus flyer in the Hampton Roads, Virginia area that told Democrats to vote on the day after Tuesday's election, according to the state's Board of Elections.

Posted by: Right of centre at November 3, 2008 3:14 PM

Typical Republican voter tricks:

Virginia State Police may press charges against the person responsible for a bogus flyer in the Hampton Roads, Virginia area that told Democrats to vote on the day after Tuesday's election, according to the state's Board of Elections.

Posted by: Right of centre at November 3, 2008 3:16 PM

Zombie doesn't just take pictures of the insanity that is the Bay Area; he/she writes essays. Here is a good one on The Left's Big Blunder - it's about polling.

http://www.zombietime.com/lefts_big_blunder/

Posted by: Kathryn at November 3, 2008 3:16 PM

yoop - I agree. But that sense of self-annointed superiority, that insistence on an ignorant lower class that requires the 'noblesse oblige' caretaking of an elite class is the very essence of the left, whether it be Democrats or NDP/Liberals.

As such a perspective, what it does is set up the mass of the population in a status with little variance in wealth and power. The elite are another class altogether, endowed by 'right' (heredity, authority) to rule. They control the wealth and the redistribution of wealth; by taxes and 'benefits to the masses'.

We had a nice example of such a mindset on another thread the other day. I can't remember his name but he was arguing that an Ivy League education privileged an individual and enabled him to Rule, while a member of this 'Joe Whoever' class had no such rights or abilities.

I think Obama is using and being used by the Democratic Party. He has absolutely nothing constructive to offer America in the way of policies, programs or a future path.

If he didn't win, and there were riots, this would prove that American is not ready for a 'black' President. I use the term 'black' because Obama and the Democrats have made race an integral component of this competition. If he wins and there are 'victory riots' this proves the same thing.

However, I'm assuming he will win. This will prove to America, at least, that 'race' is over as an issue. Hopefully, it will also be used to slow down the sense of entitlement-as-victims of many black people, eg the infamous Mr. Wright and others of his ilk.

And, I'm also assuming that Obama will only last for one term. American is not a socialist nation; it cannot operate as a non-productive population of bench-sitters. Its made up of entrepreneurs, innovators and firm individuals. Socialism won't 'fly' in America.

I'm also predicting that the real reason for the Obama/Democrat win is that desire of America for protectionism, isolation and refusal to be the Active Arm of the Free World. Since the UN has rejected its role and become a corrupt morass of freeloaders and thieves, the USA has taken on that role. I predict it will refuse. I wonder how the rest of the world will manage on its own?

That includes Canada which has for almost its entire lifetime, relied on the US consumer alone, to purchase its goods. Canada, alone of all economies, has never bothered to compete in the world market, never bothered to make its goods attractive and competitive to others. Instead it has sat back and relied on the US consumer alone. I wonder, will Canada start to mature and move out into the world over the next four years?

Posted by: ET at November 3, 2008 3:18 PM

Ted you are too overconfident.

Look at the video symbolism again. You have forgotten the PUMA(Cougar) effect of voters in the US.

http://www.puma08.com/2008/10/31/the-power-of-puma-on-display-at-the-polls-in-florida/


The Power of P.U.M.A On Display at the Polls in Florida…

October 31, 2008 by PUMA Pundit

99% of Democrats support Obama right? Wrong. Take a look at this snippet coming out of Florida:

Democrats are beaming that their party is outperforming the Republicans in early voting, releasing numbers Wednesday that show registrants of their party ahead 54 percent to 30 percent among the 1.4 million voters who have gone to the polls early.

but guess what the same article goes on to state?

A Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll gave McCain a 49-45 lead over Democrat Barack Obama among Floridians who have already voted.

So Obama has a 6.4% advantage in turnout , yet is losing by 4%. Who could these democrats who are not voting for Obama possibly be?

Hmmm. Does the word “PUMA” ring a bell?e

If I say “PUMA” you say “Pounce”… PUMA… Pounce… PUMA… Pounce!

Ya just gotta learn to "Dance with the Big Cats"


Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

Frankenstein Battalion
2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)
Knecht Rupprecht Division
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1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at November 3, 2008 3:21 PM

I guess being an ostrich is still better than being an asstrich.

Posted by: Western Canadian at November 3, 2008 3:30 PM


Hey Ted, does your Parole Officer know you have access to a Computer ?
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Posted by: Ratt at November 3, 2008 3:35 PM

Currently there is a sharp divide in USA between conservative/traditionalist/right and the liberal/collectivist/left. Does anyone really think that this will not result in disaster? Disparate world views in one society historically leads to schism.

Only time will tell.

Posted by: ConGris at November 3, 2008 3:55 PM

Heather Mallick has weighed in with another 'well reasoned" piece.

http://www.cbc.ca/world/usvotes/story/2008/11/03/f-vp-mallick.html

Amongst her hilarious prose is this:

The campaign was marked by the presence of the young.

College students were mad for Obama. And even babies liked him; they respond to calmness and quiet assurance in adults and they sat placidly in his arms.

Read it all....it's funny as hell.

Syncro

Posted by: syncrodox at November 3, 2008 4:01 PM

There will be turmoil no matter who wins tomorrow. If McCain wins,the carnage will start by the weekend. If Obama wins,the s**t will hit the fan sometime in the summer when the 'believers' realize they bought snake oil from the slick salesman.

Posted by: wallyj at November 3, 2008 4:10 PM

wallyj

You only give the big O a pass until summer eh? I figured next Halloween before the lemmings got wise.

Syncro

Posted by: syncrodox at November 3, 2008 4:20 PM

ConGris

I don't prescibe to the "civil war is coming" theory; but, just for fun the way I see it is this: Socialist p**sies get their a$#3s kicked;-)

Now is a good time to remember the wisdom of two great Americans Matt Stone and Trey Parker:

We're d**ks! We're reckless, arrogant, stupid d**ks. And the Film Actors Guild are p&&sies. And Kim Jong Il is an a$$hole. P**sies don't like d**ks, because p##sies get f'd by d##ks. But d%&ks also f a$$holes: a$$holes that just want to s*#t on everything. P%%sies may think they can deal with a$$holes their way. But the only thing that can f an a$$hole is a d##k, with some balls. The problem with d##ks is: they f too much or f when it isn't appropriate - and it takes a p##sy to show them that. But sometimes, p##sies can be so full of s#%t that they become a$$holes themselves... because p#%sies are an inch and half away from a$$ holes. I don't know much about this crazy, crazy world, but I do know this: If you don't let us f this a$$hole, we're going to have our d#%ks and p#$sies all covered in s@%t!

Posted by: Indiana Homez at November 3, 2008 4:26 PM

The turnout models are based on enthusiasm. 76 percent of Dems are jazzed by Obama, while only 55 percent are excited by McCain, so the assumption is that more D's will vote. But 65 percent of R's disapprove of Obama while only 45 percent of D's disapprove of McCain. Makes you wonder if the likely voter models are missing negative energy on the Republican side?

Posted by: Tim in Vermont at November 3, 2008 4:56 PM

Does Obama have Turette's Syndrome?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnEhmbKazdw

As you can see from the YouTube page, this isn't the first time he flipped off an opponent. He flipped off Hillary too.

Posted by: Tim in Vermont at November 3, 2008 5:46 PM

matbe rush's chaos will have an effect.

Posted by: old white guy at November 3, 2008 6:08 PM

I predict that McCain will do better than the polls have been indicating, but that he won't win. It's probably true that people tend to be less likely to admit to pollsters -- depending, say, on who's in the room when they get the call -- that they oppose Obama, but that would have been in effect from the get-go; recent poll-aggregate numbers show Obama in the ascendant.

Obama's massively, almost religiously motivated on-the-ground organizers are going to get out the vote in a big way and that will probably make the difference if it's close.

If McCain pulls it out in a squeaker there's going to be a massive poo-storm and some arson/looting/destruction of property in certain...neighbourhoods. IF the early numbers show McCain in the lead, look for the usual suspects in the broadcast media to light that match by trotting out examples, on election night, of people who were turned away at polling stations; that in most cases they simply weren't eligible or didn't register will be neither here nor there to all the outraged loons.

If the result is a close one, we're not going to know the final result for a few weeks. It will get ugly in the interim, and the non-stop media assault over the issue of "turned away" voters will end up winning it for Brocko.

Let's see, McCain wins, Obama wins...it's close, it's not close....yup, I think I've covered all the bases.

Posted by: EBD at November 3, 2008 6:09 PM

Well, I'd certainly like to thank my Canadian neighbors who are wishing us well- I think it's going to be a squeaker.

Tomorrow will be very "interesting," in the Chinese curse sort of way.

See Y'all on the Other Side...

Posted by: backhoe at November 3, 2008 6:26 PM

Agree EBD

I think that there will be a squeaker win by BO, which will be attributable in part to his soaring rhetoric and (in other part) to dirty tricks, or shall we say aggressive registration

If it's a tie, which I doubt, things will get ugly

The election in 2004 wasn't "stolen" - the result was effectively a tie - and then it became a game to see who could get the tie broken quickly and legally, hence GWB term two

Posted by: Erik Larsen at November 3, 2008 6:28 PM

You're right Erik,the 2004 election wasn't stolen. Though there are some that may argue that the 2000 election results were jobbed. I wouldn't be one of them.

Posted by: wallyj at November 3, 2008 7:03 PM

"past eight years of Bush hatred"?

Hey, for the past three years the guy's been hated by 75% of the total population.

I know you guys don't like to have your delusions challenged, but there is such a thing as objective reality.

Posted by: real at November 3, 2008 7:38 PM

Posted by: Ted at 12:07 PM


teddy, great likeness of you, butt you should have posted a left-side shot, it would be much more telling

Posted by: GYM at November 3, 2008 7:46 PM

polls


lies, damn lies, and statistics (polls)


many people may worry that their "choice" will be recorded against their phone number, thusly any demo about to jump ship will lie, and then vote the other way, I'm thinking this could be a big factor this time around, as "they" (demos jumping ship) don't want to be pegged as RACISTS


just my 2 cents worth:-))))

Posted by: GYM at November 3, 2008 8:02 PM

I'm intrigued by the end-time prophecy that "the great city is split into three parts" ... hmmm, west, centre, east? Two of those parts are blue and one is red.

The part that is red (Americans have their colour scheme reversed, red should be Democrat, no?) could wish to bail out on the blue states after this event, if the blue states prevail.

I could see the rapid growth of a movement that I call "the Heartland Republic" stretching from Texas to Alberta. Western Canada might want to realign with this entity and let Canada undergo the same natural split. Provinces and states like BC, WA and OR might need to split at the Cascades and let nature take its course.

Frankly, I don't see independent-minded, largely Christian westerners away from the coast and the fleshpots, putting up with an endless and growing reign of politically correct terror from the eastern liberal establishment supported by the media and the west coast libertines and entertainers ... and the heartlanders have most of the guns. The military could easily split along those lines, and we have most of the nukes too.

This is perhaps fore-ordained too. If God wanted to punish the sins of the God-denying liberals, he might want them all in one place, close to sea level. And it's working out just that way. A hundred foot rise in sea level would pretty much end the Democrat picnic in mid-sandwich.

Posted by: Peter O'Donnell at November 3, 2008 8:10 PM

You have to wonder about the brains of folks who would burn down their own communities. Human Intellegence is too highly rated when in groups. The mob mind is an entity to itself.
Kate is probably right, there will be riots if Obama loses. The Republicans will just leave to offshore accounts. It will be the middle class that suffers for the users.

Posted by: Revnant Dream at November 3, 2008 9:09 PM

check out this map.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Nations_of_North_America


it cuts out the left coast from the rest of the west.

Posted by: cal2 at November 3, 2008 9:10 PM

"that told Democrats to vote on the day after Tuesday's election, according to the state's Board of Elections."

Anyone so incredibly stupid as to be unaware of the date of the election should forfeit his/her right to cast a ballot for the local community association, never mind the leader of the most powerful nation on the planet.

Posted by: biffjr. at November 3, 2008 9:12 PM

Peter O'Donnell: I sure am glad I live at an elevation of 302 feet.

Posted by: ConGris at November 3, 2008 10:16 PM

I was partly kidding, but really, it makes me wonder when I see the divisions in North America and the odd way that the worst offenders are clustered around the coastlines. Of course, there would likely be some warning and people would be able to move up-country.

A large asteroid impact in the ocean, or the sudden melting of Antarctica, could just about destroy the media and the Democratic Party as well as the Canadian Liberals ... but it isn't all good news.

Posted by: Peter O'Donnell at November 3, 2008 10:48 PM

http://www.cbc.ca/world/usvotes/story/2008/11/03/f-vp-mallick.html

Posted by: syncrodox at November 3, 2008 4:01 PM

Thanks Syncro for the link. It was another Heather classic. I am glad as a taxpayer that I was able to say thank you to CBC for hiring a social retard such as Heather.

Posted by: Merle Underwood at November 3, 2008 10:55 PM

Heather Malice at it again.

She forgets that Ronald Reagan took the US back to top of the world status 27 years ago. That was only 18 years after the bullet took out the first of the womanizing democrats.

Reagan broke communism, not any Democrat backstepper.

Posted by: cal2 at November 3, 2008 11:40 PM

Peter, your comments aren't that off of the wall. The Red States and western Canada are all about agriculture, mining, oil and gas, the basics of life that some latte sipping lefty coastal moonbat who isn't sure where packaged meat comes from would be totally unable to provide for himself. Perhaps that's the big difference in culture and attitudes.

Speculating that Obama and the Dems will do a Herbert Hoover, make all of the wrong moves in this recession, you can bet that your basic urban lefty will be hard pressed to figure out an austerity plan for himself. People with some pioneer spirit aren't as mentally vulnerable.

Here's hoping that Obama's socialism now entering our great country in this economic downturn, which I think will be steep, will end all of the naivete about political promises. Unlike FDR's day, our last quasi-socialist, the internet moves with lightening speed in flushing out stupidity. It will be more of a force with time.

The only free cheese is in a mouse trap.

Posted by: penny at November 4, 2008 12:05 AM

cal2 and MU

check out my blog........Heather is fun....

Syncro

Posted by: syncrodox at November 4, 2008 12:43 AM

"I've done nothing more than post the thoughts and feelings of those poor people of lower class America who cannot speak and think for themselves"
Posted by: Reality Sucks at November 3, 2008 1:08 PM

It's one thing to suggest a person or group of people are disenfranchised or have little political voice. But, Reality Sucks betrays the true agenda of the Liberal Left: the proles have to be led by the ruling class because "they cannot speak and think for themselves."

This statement is appallingly arrogant and elitist, but I'll give RS credit for honestly revealing the true leftie modus operandi.

Note to Reality Sucks: everybody has the capacity for free thought and speech (save perhaps for the mentally incapacitated). Not you, or the political elites you support have any special capacity in this regard.

Posted by: CJ at November 4, 2008 1:02 AM
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