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October 28, 2008

Bloggers Don't Have Baghdad Bureaus?

The Canadian Journalism Project gets their ass handed to them by a girl.


Posted by Kate at October 28, 2008 7:18 PM
Comments

Strange how Yon's work immediately came to mind when I saw the post headline and me just a dumb ol sailor, not one of dem edumicated (or is that medicated?) journalists.

Posted by: AtlanticJim at October 28, 2008 7:20 PM

Nice one Kathy Shadie. Will the real Kathy Shadie stand up?

Hell, I've even gioven financial support to Yon and Totten. A few thousand donations of $20 go a long way.

Posted by: RW at October 28, 2008 7:54 PM

Necessity IS the mother of invention!

Posted by: a different bob at October 28, 2008 7:55 PM

This illustrates the disconnect between what traditional media consider valuable and what news consumers consider valuable. Boots on the ground reporting in Iraq or Afghanistan, or wherever, is valuable to people seeking first hand accounts and a more objective viewpoint, actual news if you will. Trad Med consider taking out 15 rooms in a hotel in the green zone and reporting third hand to be valuable.

Posted by: mark peters at October 28, 2008 8:09 PM

"Those posting comments are expected to adhere to standards of accuracy and fairness that would be recognized by those who practise, teach or study journalism."

Anything goes then.

Posted by: Tim in Vermont at October 28, 2008 8:38 PM

They can't go bankrupt soon enough.

Posted by: The Phantom at October 28, 2008 8:39 PM

a different bob
I always thought the mother of invention was not necessity but laziness. In the past whenever I had a production problem to solve I always picked the laziest employee I had not the brightest. Why? Well it seemed that the first thing the lazy bugger did was figure out how he could get the job done with as little work as possible. That suited me just fine and I got the bright ones to tweak his solution. It also seemed that when the bright ones came up with some complicated convoluted solution it took the lazy ones very little time to make it work efficiently. Just my observation after 45 years in business.

Posted by: Western Canadian at October 28, 2008 8:40 PM

I AM standing up!

(rimshot)

Remember (It's immortalized -- cough -- in my book and everything):

J-Source is the place where they posted an anti-Steyn piece during the BCHRC hearing, accusing Steyn of "not arguing in FOOD faith" (sic) -- and left the typo up on the site for days after I pointed it out in their comments.

Professionals, eh?

Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at October 28, 2008 9:10 PM

Sigh. The old media just hasn't figured it out yet that they were just the middle man between the reader/viewer and the man on the street being interviewed, etc. Now the man on the street is blogging instead. He's speaking directly to us, and his words aren't being distorted or spun. Long story short, we don't need the MSM. You've been pushed aside and we are finally able to get the goods straight up.

Posted by: Louise at October 28, 2008 9:12 PM

I hope so Tim. I posted a nice little retort,but noticed that due to "auto-spam filter" problems,each one has to be approved and may take up to 24 hours. So that's the new meme for censorship now..."auto-spam filter problems"???

Posted by: Justthinkin at October 28, 2008 9:15 PM

WOW! I'm amazed the comment was "allowed" or slipped through the moderators. Well they certainly can't take it down now or risk even more exposure!

Take your screen shots now. :P

Posted by: ChrisinMB at October 28, 2008 9:41 PM

Kathy is a gem.

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at October 28, 2008 9:43 PM

The J-School types have trouble identifying a nail bomber when he's not on the New York Times bestseller list.

Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at October 28, 2008 9:51 PM

the mop and pail is terrible for censoring as well, but I've had a few of mine slip through. A few times, they even changed the article because of my comment.

Posted by: allan at October 28, 2008 9:55 PM

allan said: "A few times, they even changed the article because of my comment."

That's just called "editing on the fly". It seems to be quite common at the CBC also. ;)

Posted by: ChrisinMB at October 28, 2008 9:59 PM

The asymetrical advantage of blogs is the opportunity for the public to parse the information sources the MSM uses for news stories.
Without bias.
That's a big threat to editors looking for market shares of public opinion.
I'm not surprised the MSM is generally socialist.
Like all failing industries, they will want help from the government for various high-minded ideals about fairness and so forth and propose various legislative remedies to balance the information playing field.
I think a storm is coming for bloggers.

Posted by: Peter Milot at October 28, 2008 10:00 PM

Jut think of all the fresh young faces, coming out of journalism schools! When, in a moment of enlightend vision, they discover what a fraud they had pinned their futures, and retirements on.

Poor dears...

Posted by: eastern paul at October 28, 2008 10:15 PM

Western Canadian: With regard to the "lazy" workers, you should read the Robert Heinlein story, "The Man Who Was Too Lazy To Fail". It's about a man who always looked for an easier way to do things. The more you get into the story, the more you realize the title is meant to be ironic. The hero, far from being "lazy", worked like a dog at improving and inventing.

Posted by: tower at October 28, 2008 10:23 PM

So, Western Canadian - you are re-writing the saying to say " Lazyness" is the Mother of Invention" I think you're going to have trouble getting that one to fly. But - what do I know.

Posted by: a different bob at October 28, 2008 10:28 PM

a different bob
Don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to re-write or get anything to fly, that was my experience.

Posted by: Western Canadian at October 28, 2008 11:08 PM

the newspaper business is finished - and that includes the Globe, the Star, the Sun and every other Canadian paper which chooses to deceive and spin the facts...

Posted by: Brad at October 28, 2008 11:23 PM

Not a prob,chrisinMB....all ready got my screenshots...hehe

Posted by: Justthinkin at October 29, 2008 12:25 AM

Western and a Different Bob:

"If you have a difficult task, give it to a lazy person - they will find an easier way to do it." -Hlade's Law

And:

You've heard of the four types of people that the Germans used in WWII to determine what military positions a person would be suited for. They're based on combinations of two factors: laziness and intelligence.

If you have someone who is lazy and unintelligent, he would make a good grunt.

If you have someone who is very hard-working and intelligent, he would make a good staff officer.

If you have someone who is very hard-working but stupid, don't let him in because he'll cause more trouble than he's worth.

But if you have someone who is very lazy and very intelligent, he will make the best general because he'll find the most efficient and least expensive (laziest) way of achieving a goal.

Posted by: Erik Larsen at October 29, 2008 12:42 AM

Whenever I talk to someone who is still drinking the MSM Kool Aid I raise the example of the Paris Car-B-Qs in Summer of '06.

They always say, "I've never heard of the Paris Car-B-Qs."

I say, "Oh, Yes!", "Every night for a 2 week period there were riots by Muslims in Paris and it's surrounds in the Summer of 2006 and up to 2000 cars were torched each and every night in the riots."

The blogs covered these Car-B-Qs on a daily basis and marvelled that they were TOTALLY BLACKED OUT by the Main Stream Media while Paris was burning.

Posted by: Oz at October 29, 2008 1:11 AM

You can't stop the signal.

Posted by: TBinSTL at October 29, 2008 3:38 AM

"News and opinion mingle with alarming alacrity [online]," Andrew Rosenthal, editorial page editor at The New York Times

I guess this idiot doesn't read the content of his own publication when 'editing.'

Posted by: irwin daisy at October 29, 2008 9:02 AM

and they will close that bureau as soon as the news from there is not newsworthy...

Should something happen after that point it will be bloggErs who have maintained connections in Iraq who will have the best info and sources.

Michael yon deserves the Pulitzer for reportage IMO.

Posted by: Gord Tulk at October 29, 2008 9:28 AM

and they will close that bureau as soon as the news from there is not newsworthy...

Should something happen after that point it will be bloggErs who have maintained connections in Iraq who will have the best info and sources.

Michael yon deserves the Pulitzer for reportage IMO.

Posted by: Gord Tulk at October 29, 2008 9:30 AM
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