October 21, 2008

Not Waiting For The Asteroid

"So I ask you now: Do you have any standards at all? Do you even know what honesty means?"

Posted by Kate at October 21, 2008 2:07 PM

Great hat tip for you, go to LGF and he's got a great piece about the "STOP OBAMA TOUR".

Wonderful piece.

Posted by: TOMMY ROBINSON at October 21, 2008 2:10 PM

How convenient. It's a little late now for redemption.

Posted by: Indiana Homez at October 21, 2008 2:21 PM

I knew this mess started with Carter and was really boosted by Clinton, and the democrats "stonewalled"every inch of the way still good read, sounds like our MSM if it ain't to the greater glory of the Lieberano elite it barely gets mentioned, and if it does surface briefly, such as Dions "start again" interview it is immediately buried or "Don Martenized" tm "dion is a nice man" puke! Great Post!
Cheers Bubba

Posted by: Bubba Brown at October 21, 2008 2:29 PM

Here is a great pic:

"Barrack Obama says John McCain cannot use a computer.

Well guess what?

Barrack Obama cannot land a jet plane on an aircraft carrier at night!"

I think what amounts to a controlled crash, onto a listing deck, in heavy seas at night, would be about all the hands on experience with a joystick that you need.

I would take the guy who can handle a real joystick, instead of just a mouse.

Elephants like mice in any case, right?

Unfortunately the mice have chewed down the foundations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac while the Donkey party was looking the other way.

And of course Obama was on the dime while all this was going down.

Dodd, Christopher J S CT D $165,400 $48,500 $116,900
Obama, Barack S IL D $126,349 $6,000 $120,349
Kerry, John S MA D $111,000 $2,000 $109,000
Bennett, Robert F S UT R $107,999 $71,499 $36,500
Bachus, Spencer H AL R $103,300 $70,500 $32,800
Blunt, Roy H MO R $96,950 $78,500 $18,450
Kanjorski, Paul E H PA D $96,000 $57,500 $38,500
Bond, Christopher S 'Kit' S MO R $95,400 $64,000 $31,400
Shelby, Richard C S AL R $80,000 $23,000 $57,000
Reed, Jack S RI D $78,250 $43,500 $34,750
Reid, Harry S NV D $77,000 $60,500 $16,500
Clinton, Hillary S NY D $76,050 $8,000 $68,050
Davis, Tom H VA R $75,499 $13,999 $61,500
Boehner, John H OH R $67,750 $60,500 $7,250
Conrad, Kent S ND D $64,491 $22,000 $42,491
Reynolds, Tom H NY R $62,200 $53,000 $9,200
Johnson, Tim S SD D $61,000 $20,000 $41,000
Pelosi, Nancy H CA D $56,250 $47,000 $9,250
Carper, Tom S DE D $55,889 $31,350 $24,539


Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

Frankenstein Battalion
2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von
Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)
Knecht Rupprecht Division
Hans Corps
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group "True North"

Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at October 21, 2008 2:31 PM

I know it's a longstanding cliche but it's still a propos in the current situation: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions".

Unfortunately, America now seems poised to go down to the next Dantean level in the upcoming Presidential election. Most likely we'll be towed along in the slipstream.

This fellow, Card, sounds like an honest journalist, but the word has to get out beyond Greensboro, North Carolina, if it's going to do anyone any good.

Posted by: felis corpulentis at October 21, 2008 2:34 PM

A very credible source. Perhaps you can point us to Pat Buchanan's writings on immigration next. Mr. Card is not the last honest journalist just because he says he is...

Posted by: Devin Maxwell at October 21, 2008 2:46 PM

"This fellow, Card, sounds like an honest journalist"

He's not a journalist, he's a renowned science fiction novelist.

Posted by: Charles MacDonald at October 21, 2008 2:47 PM

Unfortunately most voters are too intellectually lazy to find or understand the truth on almost all issues. That is why successful campaigns focus on easy simple issues rather than substantive or complex ones. Fortunately a lot of these voters are also too lazy to actually cast their ballot anyway.

The information is out there, you only need to open your eyes and look to find it.

Posted by: Gus at October 21, 2008 3:02 PM

...and Charles MacDonald is a known fictional character, an invention of Card's imagination. His character is normally employed as a metaphor for hubris, vanity and stupidity.

Posted by: Doug at October 21, 2008 3:18 PM

Devin: Are you suggesting that Card got his facts wrong?

Posted by: Paul at October 21, 2008 3:21 PM

I found it funny his citing "All the Presidents Men". At the time it all began Watergate seemed to me to be a Democratic hatchet job on Nixon that actually gained traction with the populace. I don't think things have changed all that much. The media is just as bigoted as it always was.

Posted by: Joe at October 21, 2008 3:28 PM

The Black Rod has an interesting story about the strike over at the Winnipeg Free Press:

The ethical ramifications of the strikers' and Winnipeg Harvest's actions aside, I'm left wondering what kind of leverage the strikers expect to use on the management of the WFP? Blast them for not being eager to go bankrupt? Has the staff of the WFP got their collective heads so far up their collective rears that they can't see the asteroid coming? Sounds like it.

The WFP readership has been in steady decline for years, and the absence of a paper is only going to drive even more readers to the internet. Those readers are going to be very difficult, if not impossible, to get back. Twenty years ago, there would have been a hue and cry to get the paper back on the news stands; now, for the most part, there's only silence.

Posted by: Dennis at October 21, 2008 3:32 PM

Joe writes: "At the time it all began Watergate seemed to me to be a Democratic hatchet job on Nixon that actually gained traction with the populace."

There is no doubt that the liberal press pursued the Watergate story with glee because of their hostility to Republicans in general and Nixon in particular, but that shouldn't obscure the facts that Nixon *was* a liar and a thug. To analogize, even though Nazis gleefully exploited the claim that Communists burned down the Reichstag, it doesn't change the fact that they did.

Posted by: Roseberry at October 21, 2008 3:39 PM

"His character is normally employed as a metaphor for hubris, vanity and stupidity."

Good description of Obama.

Add in serial liar and you have him to a "T"

Posted by: Fred at October 21, 2008 3:43 PM

Even if Card is a sci-fi novelist, what does that prove? There are a number of writers out there that do one thing the jounalists seem to overlook; research. You might have heard of some of them; Clancy, Chrichton, Pournelle? They do countless hours of research to MAKE THE FICTION BELIEVABLE, otherwise they wouldn't be the best-selling authors they are. I would also point out that many fiction writers often consult with various government agencies BECAUSE THEY CAN PROVIDE INSITE to unusual or suspicious issues.

Posted by: Jan in Alberta at October 21, 2008 3:44 PM

This guy must be kidding. Appealing to journalist's ethics, integrity and decency?

What do journalists know about honesty or truth?

Journalists are people who make whores want to take a shower when they walk by them.

Posted by: Warwick at October 21, 2008 4:10 PM

Adding to the shock is the MSM no longer even attempts to hide it bias.
Doesn't Obama "send a shiver up your leg?"

Posted by: Ghost of Ed at October 21, 2008 4:27 PM

Here's why the MSM doesn't report so many relevant stories. They are journalists and they have decided that an Obama win is a "transformational" and "historical" event. Long ago they decided that "AMERICA ELECTS 1st BLACK PRESIDENT" was the banner on the front page Nov. 5 and NOTHING will distract them from having their great moment in the sun, a moment IN WHICH THEY PARTICIPATED IN AN HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT EVENT. In other words, the electorate is being starved of relevant news by journalistic VANITY and nothing else. They are deluded. There is nothing "historical" or "transformational" about a man being elected president just because he's black. They know next to nothing about him or his policies.

Posted by: AbyNudnik at October 21, 2008 4:36 PM

Also on the topic of the media not doing their jobs, here's "The comprehensive argument against Barack Obama" from Hot Air.

Posted by: Kathryn at October 21, 2008 4:36 PM

"So I ask you now: Do you have any standards at all? Do you even know what honesty means?"

To this Asper replied, “You’re wrong. You’re in the business of selling soap.”

Posted by: Edward Teach at October 21, 2008 4:42 PM

"Do you even know what honesty means?"

Of course they know what it means. Its one of the annoying things conservatives insist on that irritates the hell out of them. Honor and justice are a couple more.

Journalists don't like honesty. They like convenience. Lies are convenient.

Posted by: The Phantom at October 21, 2008 4:52 PM

I remember reading All the President's Men and thinking: That's journalism. You do what it takes to get the truth and you lay it before the public, because the public has a right to know.
~Orson Scott Card

I read somewhere that the vast majority of people who enter jornalism courses want to become journalists not to master "the style of writing characteristic of material in newspapers and magazines, consisting of direct presentation of facts or occurrences with little attempt at analysis or interpretation," but to CHANGE the WORLD.

"The public have an insatiable curiosity to know everything. Except what is worth knowing. Journalism, conscious of this, and having tradesman-like habits, supplies their demands."
~Oscar Wilde

"Its failings notwithstanding, there is much to be said in favor of journalism in that by giving us the opinion of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community."
~Oscar Wilde

Journalism is not a profession or a trade. It is a cheap catch-all for f*ck@ffs and misfits— a false doorway to the backside of life, a filthy pi$$-ridden little hole nailed off by the building inspector, but just deep enough for a wino to curl up from the sidewalk and masturbate like a chimp in a zoo-cage."
~Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (1971)

Posted by: Oz at October 21, 2008 4:52 PM

The election of Obama is an emotional event only. There is nothing rational about it. It's affirmative action in action at the highest office. It's redemption for the perpetually guilty. But then, what would we expect from Liberal leftards?

Posted by: irwin daisy at October 21, 2008 4:54 PM

Subprime Suspects
The right blames the credit crisis on poor minority homeowners. This is not merely offensive, but entirely wrong.

Posted by: todd at October 21, 2008 5:18 PM

A senator in the US once said that most journalists can be bought for less than a two bit whore.

Posted by: Shawn at October 21, 2008 5:23 PM

Ummmm....todd.What does the fact that slate,a known home of lying,commie,leftie idiots,and the subprime crisis have to do with truth and honesty?Oh wait. Got it. You want to give me 500gs,and don't care that I may not pay you back.You'll just go steal it,socialist like,from my neighbour!!!And who said only fools believe the MSM.

Posted by: Justthinkin at October 21, 2008 6:03 PM

"...The right blames the credit crisis on poor minority homeowners..."


The right blames the Democrats who created this whole mess.

Poor minorities are victims of the Democrats because now not only have they lost the house they could not pay for but their credit record is worse than before.

We do not blame poor minorities, we feel sorry they were fooled by the left.

Where do you get your " the right is a bunch of racist " propaganda from?

Posted by: Friend of USA at October 21, 2008 6:04 PM

todd, thank you for this Slate article. This is exactly the kind of journalistic behavior under discussion in this thread.

Now, if you want to see this kind of thing mandated in law, vote Obama.

Posted by: The Phantom at October 21, 2008 6:30 PM


Posted by: allan at October 21, 2008 6:34 PM

Card is a so-so sci-fi writer and a renowned horror writer. I do not group science fiction, horror, and fantasy as a common genre (as many do of "speculative fiction").

He has one masterpiece in sci-fi that is recommended reading to all: "Enders Game" (that I would include in my top 10 sci-fi books ever written list), but if you read it first you'll be disappointed by everything else he writes in the genre.

He makes believable characters, and it's nice to see he has integrity in his "real" life.

Posted by: C_Miner at October 21, 2008 6:59 PM

Right. "All The President's Men" also had an easy banner: PRESIDENT IMPEACHED. That's what drove them, just as "FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT" drives them now. The McCain campaign needs a simple story like "SPREADING YOUR WEALTH AROUND." But better. That one isn't good enough. "THE AFFIRMATIVE ACTION PRESIDENT?" Too crude. "GOD, THEREFORE UNKNOWABLE?" Too intellectual. Tough problem!

Posted by: Abu Nudnik at October 21, 2008 7:11 PM

This could be about Canada's media as well. They watched for 40 years as this Country was plundered by the Liberals, the mob connections, the hand outs, The complete socialization of the Nation, HRC's out of control to the point of becoming Inquisitions. Not a whisper over a 40% Canadian content law that translates into censorship. They said nothing as the Puritans without a god who have made a mockery of liberty with malicious smoking laws & taxes tripled for every commodity. The media have done nothing but support this edifice of lies for years. In exchange for senate seats, or being Governor general. I call these Useful idiots types of news gathering sycophants "champagne Journalists" just hacks sucking up to the chattering class by covering up a multitude of sins.

Much of this can be blamed on journalism schools with there activist teachers & neo-Marxist tautology. Shut them down , than do it the old way. Have these guys learn from the bottom up in a real paper or studio, not rely on a degree in Marxism.

2008 will go down as the year Journalism as we know it died. The blatant bias in the Canadian & American media cannot be ignored , it was just to transparent. Nobody trusts them anymore, except the few who have keep there dignity by truth telling, ever under the mockery of these ghouls who would lie rather than see the verity of the corruption in these ideological masters. Plus the few publications like National review who tried in vein to warn of this, as did Catholic or other papers not playing bitch to the Socialists. Now those Journalists like an Ezra Levant , Mark Steyn, David Warren, with many others having been vindicated, yet the jackals still circle laughing their eerie frustration. Look at the number they did on Joe the Plummer.

Posted by: Revnant Dream at October 21, 2008 7:34 PM

I have despised the media for so long now that I can't remember when I ever had a remotely positive opinion of them.

I recently wrote some song lyrics dedicated to them. Along with Revnant Dream, I think they are agenda driven hacks.


Let me know what you think.

Kate, my apologies if this is bad form.

Posted by: Marko at October 21, 2008 8:33 PM

Hans baby:

It's customary when creating a table to put headings over the columns. I appreciate the effort you put into creating it, but what are the three numbers? Annual giving for the last three years? Something else?

Please enlighten us.

Oh, and C-Miner, I agree - "Ender's Game" is one of the best sci-fi stories I ever read.

Posted by: KevinB at October 21, 2008 9:02 PM

I've noticed that Glen Beck has been replaced by Lou Dobbs on CNN recently. Is this more of the same?

Posted by: RD at October 21, 2008 9:18 PM

2008 will go down as the year Journalism as we know it died.
Posted by: Revnant Dream at October 21, 2008 7:34 PM

If I may speak from my own personal experience, this statement summarizes my own personal views of "Journalism", or the "Main Stream Media" or whatever other name it may go by.

This year marks the first electoral year that I have relied upon the internet and blogs for the vast majority of election coverage (while I'm Canadian, I have been closely following the political machinations of both Canada and the US for several months now).

Even in the 2006 and 2004 Canadian elections, I would regularly tune into the 10:00 news. I knew they were biased to the left, but hadn't yet discovered the power of free opinion in cyberspace. Being a political junkie, I simply needed my political news fix.

I barely watch TV news anymore -- political media coverage in Canada is little more than an extension of the Liberal party PR machine. The CTV Halifax broadcast of Dion's do-overs is the exception that proves the rule.

Posted by: CJ at October 21, 2008 10:28 PM

Beck moving to Fox, CNN couldnt make him toe the company line.

Posted by: cal2 at October 21, 2008 10:50 PM

RD, Glenn Beck signed a deal to be on FOX news at 5pm. They gave him the bullet at Headline news right away.

Posted by: 1talkinghead at October 21, 2008 11:02 PM

C Miner,

I liked Ender's Game, but Speaker for the Dead is better, hands down. That is a deeply moving book. I've a read a few other things by him, but I'd agree that his earlier work (Ender's Game & Speaker) are better.

And to say that Card is better known for his horror? The guy won back-to-back Hugos and Nebulas. Has he done anything similar in any of his other genres?

Posted by: Half Canadian at October 21, 2008 11:21 PM

"I liked Ender's Game, but Speaker for the Dead is better, hands down."

No way. I liked Ender's Game, though it had a rather predictable ending, but the subsequent books in the series devolved into this sort of weird religio-psychobabble. I think I gave up part way through the 3rd one and wrote them off as a waste of time and brain cycles.

Posted by: Edward Teach at October 22, 2008 12:52 AM

At KevinB baby:

The tables are all set out at the link I gave in my original post.


Posted by: Hans Rupprecht at October 22, 2008 1:55 AM

Well said Revnant Dream. I read your message twice, you said everything I would like to have said, twice as well. Thank-you.

I must get Fox news, I really miss Glen Beck. Meanwhile, I get his newsletter and listen to his audio vaults. Just go to and sign up, if you find yourself, like me, out in the cold. (eg. no Fox News)

Posted by: Jema 54 at October 22, 2008 3:51 AM

Two more stories for the "Not Waiting for the Asteroid" series.

From Don Surber, Petarded, "Blowback for the news networks: Pushing an Obaman blowout leads to lower ratings."

"All 3 evening news shows experienced audience drops year-to-year for the week of Oct. 13-19, 2008."

Read the whole thing.

But that's just the cherry on top, from the Iowa Independent,

"From June 2007 to December 2007, the site "Paper Cuts" tallied
roughly 2,200 newspaper layoffs. To date for 2008, there have been

more than 12,000."

Posted by: Looking Glass at October 22, 2008 10:32 AM

Damn bunch of no good lying horny toady sidewinders if i hear them calling me a gloried reptile im going to violent with them im going to pick out their eyes IM ONE MAD SHOREBIRD SQUAWK SQUAWK SQUAWK

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at October 22, 2008 11:29 AM


No that he got them incomplete and that he presented them in a manner consistent with his bias in favour of John McCain and the Republican Party...

Posted by: Devin Maxwell at October 22, 2008 12:22 PM

--- Posted by Oz at 4:22 pm Oct 21 ----
"Journalism is not a profession or a trade. It is a cheap catch-all for f*ck@ffs and misfits— a false doorway to the backside of life, a filthy pi$$-ridden little hole nailed off by the building inspector, but just deep enough for a wino to curl up from the sidewalk and masturbate like a chimp in a zoo-cage."
~Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (1971)

--Yep Thompson pretty much described himself and his scumbag occupation. Thankfully that drugged out, self important f##krag is dead. It shows what scumbags are in journalism that they worship that P.O.S.

Posted by: GGGG at October 22, 2008 10:38 PM