Despicable.

Absolutely despicable.

Too bad the McCain Camp is above the lefty BS.

The left is really in a panic.

My wife is concerned now about the Left getting people to go to advanced polls.

Something is waiting in the wings to be dropped that would shatter Obama's chances.

...just a strong suspicion.

Speaking of something waiting to be dropped, does anyone think that the voice recordings held by API (African Press Int'l) of Michelle O might just be that thing?

Can someone gives us a 'Coles Notes' summary of what that story is all about?

Just as a note since I know that Kate won't post anything about this:

"Last night the head of that GOP backed group, Mark Anthony Jacoby of Young Political Majors (YPM), was arrested by the California State Election Fraud Taskforce and Oxnard, CA Police.

According to CA SoS Debra Bowen's press release, Jacoby himself had committed voter registration fraud and perjury by lying on his own voter registration form. (That's similar to what Ann Coulter did, though she not only committed felony voter registration fraud, she also committed actual voter fraud, as well, even though such fraud is exceedingly rare.)"

The best part? Nobody has been arrested in ACORN, and yet that seems to have dominated recent events with regard to the election....with no proof or arrests to show for it.

Nobody has been arrested from ACRORN because magically they had a break in and the computers were stolen. How convenient.

Kinda like Conrad Black loading up the bankers boxes out the back door, huh?

Further on these vote fraud scandals (to explain my previous post further):

"Jacoby's arrest by state investigators and the Ontario Police Department comes after dozens of voters said they were duped into registering as Republicans by his firm, Young Political Majors, or YPM. The voters said YPM tricked them by saying they were signing a petition to toughen penalties against child molesters. The firm was paid $7 to $12 for every Californian it registered as a member of the GOP."

On top of that, in August his company was part of numerous allegations of fraud with regards to citizen initiatives to get questions put on the ballot. His organization would lie to those who signed petitions, using bait and switch tactics to get them to sign up for initiatives that they had no knowledge of.

Anyways...the reason why I'm posting this is not to bash the GOP. The reason I'm posting this is because the whole ACORN debacle got wayyyyy too much airtime, and I was thoroughly shocked to see people on here who believed the GOP was squeaky clean when it comes to voter registration practices. People in general need to stop being so bloody partisan all the the time and use their brain a bit more.

Heh. Powell endorses Obama, but the US election thread on SDA is about the lefty MSM being the, errr, lefty MSM.

"Too bad the McCain Camp is above the lefty BS."

Hilarious. Lefty BS.

"In 2000, John McCain lost the GOP primary in South Carolina to George W. Bush due in large part to insinuations that he fathered an illegitimate child. The couple adopted one daughter, Bridget, from Mother Teresa's orphanage in Bangladesh."

I guess Dubya is joining Powell on the left.

McCain does have integrity, but his campaign is becoming negative. His willingness to stand up to the presumably uninformed or misinformed crowds was laudable, but Palin and the Coulters of the world have been engaging in the rightwing equivalent of what the lefty MSM is doing. Some people on this board think McCain was wrong in calling Obama a 'decent family man'. Yeah. Obama is the devil. Didn't you know?

Its dirty, its negative, and it works. Because the angry left and the angry right lap it up. Most people here lap it up and think its absolutely appropriate.

So whats with the faux shock and bizzare self-righteousness? Its politics as usual in the world's most powerful democracy.

CNN created their false god in OBAMA, they will have to live by it. Another thing Chavez, Putin and the Iranian president want Obama in the W.H.
If Obama thinks that those three socialist parties are going to knee at OBAMA'S feet-think again. They most likely will have OBAMA at their feet or else...... You know what Dictator socialists do.
Glenn BECK who has a show both on television and radio has revealed more about OBAMA 'past' history involving ACORN, ARYES AND MORE which the MSM will brush over it but not to the point where OBAMA is constantly harassed by the CNN as they do regularly to PALIN and MCCAIN.

Eskimo,

Right, because we all know that their entire operation was running on 3 dell laptops, and that all the evidence was stored solely on those 3 laptops in Boston.

Are you actually seriously, or were you just joking.

CNN created their false god in OBAMA, they will have to live by it. Another thing Chavez, Putin and the Iranian president want Obama in the W.H.
If Obama thinks that those three socialist parties are going to kneeL at OBAMA'S feet-think again. They most likely will have OBAMA at their feet or else...... You know what Dictator socialists do.

Glenn BECK who has a show both on television and radio has revealed more about OBAMA 'past' history involving ACORN, ARYES AND MORE which the MSM will brush over it but not to the point where OBAMA is constantly harassed by the CNN as they do regularly to PALIN and MCCAIN.

"CNN created their false god in OBAMA"

You should be pleased its only CNN and not FOX. FOX is, as we all know, the most watched newschannel in America. If FOX had created a false god in Obama, we would have something to worry about.

Who cares about CNN anyway? All they ever show is "your extended daily weather forecast". Its baised. So is FOX. It all balances out, non?

winston, not if you get CNN but NOT FOX

Aren't they both cable? Available in the same packages? Very curious to know.

I thought the only place you don't get FOX News is in Canada. Which doesn't make a difference, since Canadians don't vote in the US elections.

bar_jebus seems to think its perfectly ok for cemeteries, football teams and creatures of fiction to vote for Obama, as they have done for Democrats in Chicago for decades. Its perfectly ok for Acorn to fabricate 200,000+ Obama voters in Ohio alone.

Yes friends, these things are all ok because one (1) lone Republican was collared for vote fraud. They All Do It, y'know.

So bar, buddy. Don't you think it would be better if the election was, what's the word I'm looking for, HONEST?

Come clean with us, my friend. You'd vote for the Democrat if they ran an illiterate crack smoking rent boy, wouldn't you?

I get Fox News in Canada, but it's the only channel that you cannot purchase alone on Rogers Cable. It has to be purchased in a package. I know many people who buy the useless package just for Fox

winston...I get Fox news up here in Canada. What I like is how they expose Canuck crap in the MSM.

Ah. I get it this side of the Atlantic because its owned by the same company that owns Sky.

I watch it for laughs. It's like a 24 hour right wing version of Jon's Stewart's Daily Show. Don't know anyone here who takes it seriously, even among the pro-America crowd. CNN is trash too. And the absolute lack of decorum is hilarious when compared to the stiff upper lip stuff we get here, regardless of whether its Sky or the BBC. So much yelling. High entertainment value, I have got to admit.

I'm perfectly willing to believe you Phantom, please just point me towards solid concrete evidence that 200,000+ voters in Ohio alone are gotten from cemeteries or are fictitious creatures. As I said earlier, I'm not saying ACORN didn't fabricate things, I'm just asking for some evidence, and questioning why no charges have been laid, as well as exposing that no, in fact Democrats are not the spawn of satan and that they aren't the only ones prone to vote fraud.

I find it exceedingly hard to believe that one man can be investigated and charged for voter fraud on as small a scale as he does, and yet 200,000+ in Chicago alone somehow goes completely unnoticed by not only local officials, but the entire government?

ACORN has a 13 year history of voter registration fraud with numerous ACORN members having been charged/convicted and continues to be the subject of multiple criminal investigations by no less than 14 states and counting (since the states are responsible for said registration not the feds). This is the least frightening aspect of this organization. More terrifying is there voter intimidation techniques, trespassing, property damage, violent confrontation and civil disobedience.

There is not another organization or individual who comes even close to these usurpers of democracy.

Wow, taking talking points from McCain missing link? I agree ACORN really does need a wakeup call in the form of a very hefty fine or a removal of federal funding. What I'm getting at here is that this is a manufactured crisis. Phrases like, "usurpers of democracy" is FUD of the worst sort.

Why? Because the "voter fraud" that ACORN members are getting convicted of are sub contractors that simply want ACORN's money. They get paid for how many people they register, so not vetting the registrations is in their best interest. It has absolutely no impact on the election (fake registrations would require fake credentials to actually show up at the proper voting station and they would need to pose as someone from the Dallas Cowboys, or as Mickey Mouse).

As to charged convicted, its a review of all their registrations since it was exposed that 1,800 names have been faked by 7 employees who have all been fired and convicted. As to voter intimidation, I've not heard any reports of that, but if you have some I'd be glad to see them. Again though, I'm not totally sure how this is a "usurping of democracy" when you've got Palin whipping people into a frenzy of calling Obama a terrorist and demanding that he be killed.

Cindy McCain stole legal prescription medication; Obama paid money or whatever for illegal drugs....so what is the point?

Hmm... I don't see the controversy - her prescription drug addiction was big news in the early 90s. Wealthy philanthropist abuses her own charity organization to obtain drugs illegally. DEA gets involved. It was a big story, and it's one of the defining aspect of her life. For several years, she was an outspoken public figure on drug abuse. Including that period of her life in a biographical piece just makes sense. I also didn't think the piece was unfair in any way; I walked away with an impression of a nuanced, caring woman who's faced several struggles in her life, which she has overcome.

The NYT story for those who haven't read it - Behind McCain, Outsider in Capital Wanting Back In
A NYT piece on Obama's drug past - Old Friends Say Drugs Played Bit Part in Obama’s Young Life

What I find interesting about the Obama story is how his friends and acquaintances -- at least those interviewed by the NYT -- tend to diminish his drug use while Obama dramatizes it in his book. Perhaps an old acquaintance will come forward in the media to elaborate on his past with drugs? I'm sure this person would find an audience in many places.

If you want to make the argument that the potential first ladies and their families are receiving way too much attention, I'll agree with you, but it's simply the nature of the beast. What the public wants the public gets.

Here's something you folks will likely enjoy:

"Some people speculate that blacks are voting for Obama strictly because he's black and not because of his policies. So we took McCain's policies and pretended they were Obama's. This is what they had to say. "

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/8/26/2067396/hs_sal_in_Harlem_100108.mp3

bar_jebus

I did say voter registration not 'voter fraud'. I don't recall using the term 'crisis’ but to suggest this ACORN voter registration fraud is a manufactured crisis is to ignore the evidence: As for the ‘Dem talking point’ about the ‘terrorist kill him thing” the secret service discredited that nonsense two weeks ago. Aparently only the reporter who made the claim is the only person to here it out of 10,000, hmmmm interesting.
You are a little behind the curve dude.
It also has a long history of scandal. In the state of Missouri in 1986, 12 ACORN members were convicted of voter fraud. But that case was not an isolated incident in the state. In December 2004, in St. Louis, six volunteers pleaded guilty of dozens of election law violations for filling out registration cards with names of dead people and other bogus information. Authorities launched an earlier investigation after noticing that among the new voters was longtime St. Louis alderman Albert “Red” Villa, who died in 1990. The volunteers worked for “Operation Big Vote” — a branch of ACORN — in St. Louis.
On February 10, 2005, Nonaresa Montgomery, a paid worker who ran Operation Big Vote during the run-up to the 2001 mayoral primary, was found guilty of vote fraud. Montgomery hired about 30 workers to do fraudulent voter-registration canvassing. Instead of knocking on doors, the volunteers sat at a St. Louis fast food restaurant and wrote out names and information from an outdated voter list. About 1,500 fraudulent voter registration cards were turned in.
In October 2006, St. Louis election officials discovered at least 1,492 “potentially fraudulent” voter registration cards. They were all turned in by ACORN volunteers.
In November 2006, 20,000 to 35,000 questionable voter registration forms were turned in by ACORN officials in Missouri. Most all of these were from St. Louis and Kansas City areas, where ACORN purportedly sought to help empower the “disenfranchised” minorities living there. But the ACORN workers weren’t just told to register new voters. The workers admitted on camera that they were coached to tell registrants to vote for Democrat Claire McCaskill.
In 2007, in Kansas City, Missouri, four ACORN employees were indicted for fraud. In April of this year eight ACORN employees in St. Louis city and county pleaded guilty to federal election fraud for submitting bogus voter registrations.
And, that was just Missouri.

Ref: http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-complete-guide-to-acorn-voter-fraud/

I don't get it. The article claims one of Cindy McCain's flaws is she doesn't "fit in" in Washington. Wouldn't that be a plus?

Oh wait there's more......

This year there have been several accusations of fraud against ACORN. Over a dozen states are investigating the organization already. Here is a complete list of the ongoing investigations:

North Carolina — State Board of Elections officials have found at least 100 voter registration forms with the same names over and over again. The forms were turned in by ACORN. Officials sent about 30 applications to the state Board of Elections for possible fraud investigation.

Ohio — The New York Post reported that a Cleveland man said he was given cash and cigarettes by aggressive ACORN activists in exchange for registering an astonishing 72 times. The complaints have sparked an investigation by election officials into the organization, whose political wing has supported Barack Obama. Witnesses have already been subpoenaed to testify against the organization.

Nevada — Authorities raided the headquarters of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now on Tuesday October 7, 2008, after a month-long investigation. The fraudulent voter registrations included the Dallas Cowboys starting line-up.

Indiana — More than 2,000 voter registration forms filed in northern Indiana’s Lake County filled out by ACORN employees turned out to be bogus. Officials also stopped processing a stack of about 5,000 applications delivered just before the October 6 registration deadline after the first 2,100 turned out to be phony.

Connecticut — Officials are looking into a complaint alleging ACORN submitted fraudulent voter registration cards in Bridgeport. In one instance, an official said a card was filled out for a 7-year-old girl, whose age was listed as 27. 8,000 cards were submitted in Bridgeport.

Missouri — The Kansas City election board is reporting 100 duplicate applications and 280 with fake information. Acorn officials agreed that at least 4% of their registrations were bogus. Governor Matt Blunt condemned the attempts by ACORN to commit voter fraud.

Pennsylvania — Officials are investigating suspicious or incomplete registration forms submitted by ACORN. 252,595 voter registrations were submitted in Philadelphia. Remarkably, 57,435 were rejected — most of them submitted by ACORN.

Wisconsin — In Milwaukee ACORN improperly used felons as registration workers. Additionally, its workers are among 49 cases of bad registrations sent to authorities for possible charges, as first reported by the Journal Sentinel.

Florida — The Pinellas County Elections supervisor says his office has received around 35 voter registrations that appear to be bogus. There is also a question of 30,000 felons who are registered illegally to vote. Their connections with ACORN are not yet clear.

Texas — Of the 30,000 registration cards ACORN turned in, Harris County tax assessor Paul Bettencourt says just more than 20,000 are valid. And just look at some of the places ACORN was finding those voters. A church just next door is the address for around 150 people. More than 250 people claim a homeless outreach center as their home address. Some listed a county mental health facility as their home and one person even wrote down the Harris County jail at the sheriff’s office.

Michigan — ACORN in Detroit is being investigated after several municipal clerks reported fraudulent and duplicate voter registration applications coming through. The clerk interviewed said the fraud appears to be widespread.

New Mexico – The Bernalillo County clerk has notified prosecutors that some 1,100 fraudulent voter registration cards were turned in by ACORN.

That’s not all. So far this year at least 14 states have started investigations against ACORN. Talk about a culture of corruption. It is so bad that Representatives of Congress have asked for the Justice Department to investigate, and GOP presidential candidate John McCain is bringing it up in his stump speeches. The Obama camp is stealthily altering its “Fight the Smears” website to distance themselves from the organization — quite a challenge considering how close their candidate’s association has been with the group.

Ref: http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-complete-guide-to-acorn-voter-fraud/

bar_jebus how does one as morally bankrupt as you are look at yourself in the mirror? Do you not understand right and wrong?

Hey look, more documented evidence of an Obama lie regarding his relationship with Ayers

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/20/obama-praised-searing-timely-book-ayers/

Crickets

Hey, I've never posted here before, but I would like to point out something that I notice all the time: Does it no bother right wing types that someone like Jen raving about false God's and Obama kneeling at socialist feet etc.., is raving on their side? Do you not want to maybe say "Hey Jen, love your ability to, um, not proofread, and you are great at posting the same thing twice, but could you maybe stop commenting and let literate people have the opinions?" Just wondering, because for every legitimate point that is made in criticism of Obama, it tends to get drowned out by the lunatics. Well, the more lunatic. Whoever runs this site is a bit off balance too.

Why did Bar Jebus claim that Ann Coulter committed voter fraud?

That is simply untrue.

"If you want to make the argument that the potential first ladies and their families are receiving way too much attention,"

Not to be nasty or anything but I find Michelle Obama to be butt ugly , in particular her bulging eyes.

Horny Toad

"Why did Bar Jebus claim that Ann Coulter committed voter fraud?

That is simply untrue."

First I've heard of it, too. A simple google search corroborates it - turns out she did commit voter fraud in 2006. Apparently she voted in an election for the North Side of some place, even though she lived on the South Side, by registering with a false address or something. Its all very bizzare.

bar_jebus thinks that Acorn showing up on CNN for fraudulently registering 200,000 dead people and Mickey Mouse, in one (1) state, isn't "proof". Wants to wait until they actually steal the election, get caught, charged and then convicted before he makes up his mind.

Uh huh. bar, dude, they can't charge anybody for bad registration as far as I know. They can only charge the ones who actually do the false voting. You know, the guy who shows up with the Mickey Mouse ID card?

Fact is, Acorn has been involved in one of the biggest vote rigging scams in American history. And you know it. Which moves you from the "willfully ignorant partisan" pile to the "aiding and abetting criminals" pile.

That's not a step up, in case you were wondering.

Oh my god you guys...I feel like I'm talking to children who simply put their hands over their ears and just start shouting and yelling that they can't hear what I'm saying.

The Phantom:

Give me a link saying that 200,000 dead people were registered. Seriously, your claim holds NOTHING. ACORN only registered 1.2 million people this year, and you suddenly claim that 200,000 were registered in Ohio (which is hard to believe in the first place) but that they also were all DEAD? Its too bad the facts don't support your claims. ACORN currently has 7 employees being charged with creating 1,800 fake voter registration cards.

For whatever reason you seem to understand that fraudulent voter registration is completely meaningless when it comes to an election since those fake people can't actually vote unless they have ID, but then you continue to say its the worst case of vote rigging in history? Please tell me how they can actually vote if they do not have "mickey mouse" as their ID?

As to widespread ACORN fraud with regards to registering voters, this is a problem with the system since organizations like ACORN get federal funds and private donations, and then pay sub-contractors to hire people for minimum wage, and pay those sub-contractors on a per registration basis. The more registrations the more money they make. Greed takes over. This is not a case of "omg lets registration tons of fake democratic voters for no reason at all", this is a case of, "wow, there's lots of money to be made by registering dead people".

missing_link:

Your points are all valid, I agree, ACORN turns in fraudulent voter cards, as do many Republican organizations. Your tally of rejected cards sits around 30 - 40 thousands registrations....quite a bit lower than the claim of "200,000 in Ohio alone" that Phantom is making. Most of your claims are ridiculous assertions that "because some little girl who was 7 got registered, all ACORN registrations are fakes".

Again, what I'm trying to point out here is that this is NOT a partisan issue. ACORN is particularly bad for this, but ALL voter registration organizations suffer from this, including many many many republican organizations. Somehow everyone here has managed to jump up on a high horse and cast their disdain down on the democrats, while their own party has the same problems but in a far less centralized manner.

Hmm here's something I just ran across...its an article about how the RNC settled a suit in which they acknowledged, and I quote, "The settlement acknowledges the existence of an illegal scheme by the Republicans to use mortgage foreclosure lists to deny foreclosure victims their right to vote. This settlement has the force of law behind it and ensures that Republicans cannot disenfranchise families facing foreclosure."

Wow. This is a whole other ballgame from poor voter registration practices. But you know what? I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find something DNC did that equals this level of treachery. What I'm trying to point out is that each party has their sins, and the absolute shock and disbelief that the Republicans are showing towards the ACORN scandal is ridiculous. It has nothing to do with the election, or whom will be a better candidate for the presidency since Obama wasn't the one forging those registration records in the same way that McCain probably wasn't the one who came up with a scheme to keep foreclosed voters from voting. Here's the link by the way:

http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/10/20/mi-republicans-admit-to-illegal-foreclosure-scheme-surrender-to-democrats/

Bar, baby. Was McCain hired as a consultant by the outfit doing the foreclosure thing? Was Palin?

No, eh? Barry "The Rock" Obama was hired by Acorn at one point. Acorn -at present- has been covered by CNN, who listed hundreds of thousands of fake voter registrations by Acorn nation wide. This is the CNN which is in the tank for Obama so deep they need scuba gear to breath. CNN baby.

You can keep pretending I'm making this up if you want, but the truth of the matter is that ONE party in this US election is putting on a centrally controlled, organized, well funded effort to corrupt the process. That party is the DemocRats, their guy is Obama.

Any local, disjointed, one-off crap being pulled by Republican is small potatoes compared to the full court slime job from the DNC.

Why on earth would you want to help them do it? Are you mental?

The Obamessiah phenomenon should not be happening. We know better than to let religious-style zealotry litter the political arena. Adolf Hirler demonstrated that for all to see and learn. How soon we forget.

Obama is the beginning of the end. Unless, of course, one of his many enemies decides to take preemptive action. Only time will tell.

Hopefully, America will wake up and vote McCain. But I somehow doubt it.

OMG PHANTOM! Post some links for goodness sakes!?!?! You are blatantly lying. You are seriously making things up at this point. The only article I could find on CNN was this one:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/09/acorn.fraud.claims/index.html?iref=newssearch

It says that "thousands" of voter registrations have been faked by ACORN. Acorn has only registered 1.3 million people in total, so how would it be possible for hundreds of thousands to be faked? Their entire organization would be shut down, their funding would dry up because they serve no purpose.

I'm not posting here again. I cannot imagine what kind of a person you are to be so willfully stupid, ignorant, and unable to use google. Give me proof, any proof of more than a few thousand fake voter registrations that ACORN has done that sparked the story. ACORN has been investigated many times in the past for poor voter registration screening, I am not saying they don't. What I am saying is that you are a sheep. A follower. Someone who once given a lie, will never give it up, who cannot admit they're wrong, that their rabbid support of a political party has blinded them completely to everything else around them.

If you can provide me a link I'll gladly admit I'm wrong. I don't like corruption any more than you do. What I am saying is this: ACORN's fraud will not change any vote counts. It is merely registration fraud. What I am saying is that this is a MANUFACTURED story. Its a non-story. Its trivial. It takes away from real issues. Do you think Obama honestly said to ACORN, hey guys, lets create a bunch of fake voter registrations in the most ridiculous names ever, like Mickey Mouse, just so we can get caught...and by doing so...we will...not accomplish anything since voter registrations do not translate into votes...? It doesn't make sense.

Oh, blatantly lying, is it? Is that what you call it when somebody says something that pierces your reality bubble?

//www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=37971

"The Association for Community Reform Now (ACORN) submitted nearly 90,000 voter registration applications to the registrar’s office in Clark County, Nev., this year, among which were “thousands and thousands and thousands of phony and duplicate applications” that ACORN did not mark as suspicious, Larry Lomax, Clark Country registrar of voters,said."

Enjoy.

This is my fav line:

"The New York Times has stooped lower than this campaign ever imagined possible"

That must be pretty low, because the McCain campaign is plumbing the depths with it's tactics.

As for Obama... he right out admitted that he did coke and other drugs. What more do you want? I mean besides that twit Palin?

Ah, thats better Phantom, I appreciate you putting the nail in your own coffin. That's markedly different from your original claim, no? You originally claimed over 200,000+ fake voter registrations in Ohio alone...instead there are "thousands and thousands", about 5% of what your original claim was.

This is easily equal to the work of a single Republican in Nevada who also falsified voter registrations. Do you get my point now? That this is across party lines, that there's a problem with subcontracting this work to unscrupulous people who get paid by how many people they register? Dem's and Republicans both do it.