...and remember kids, you'll get a firm scolding if you openly discuss who you're supporting at a polling station.

I wonder if the Liberals had one of their cronies take down Elections Canada in a hope of preventing their second loss in a row.

go to the DRUDGE REPORT and take a look at Taliban Jack's Election Canada violations - he's still advertising from a US server

I have to say, Kate I only skim headlines at the MSM nowadays and then I go to SDA and a few other blogs (more than just blogs) to get the real feel of the issues.

I just voted and I feel like I placed a bet at the track for place.

Cheers!

A cold day in hell? or did the Carbon Tax get approved?

While I didn't see Taliban Jack over at DRUDGE, I must confess if I did I probably thought he was trying to sell me a DVD on EBay selling for fun and profit.

Is it illegal for me to say what I thought I heard about results or is it one of those prosecute Kate for what others say kind of law?

perhaps the least talked about thing in the polls is the level of undecided voters. In every poll I have seen it has been in the 20% range in Ontario and even higher than that in que. Thus the table is set for a surprise tonight in favour of the CP. Almost every seat that the cp currently holds is safe and that cannot be said for any of the other parties.

Perhaps the status qou will be the result but that means that Stephen harper will remain as pm for at least two to three years. Had things got very ugly economically-speaking between now and the scheduled date next year SH may not have been so fortunate. So from my perspective this election will not have been for naught if the current status is the result tonight.

I'm pulling for Canada to go Blue-Majority, from my comfy home in the USA.

If Harper wins, I may be coming up there...especially if Barack O'Dumbbunny wins here.

"So from my perspective this election will not have been for naught if the current status is the result tonight"

True Dat!

I think that actually is plan 'A', plan 'B' is wining a majority, either way the Libs are hooped.

WRT undecided voters, the polling #'s are typically high, these are the same voters that will fail to vote, typically.

Gerrard Kennedy was stuffing mailboxes with a DZD today.

I'd love to see it.

Looks like the hockey stick snapped there, Kate.

Heh, I'm in Kennedy's riding too. The DVD was a nice touch :p

I'd rather Peggy Nash won than that pompous ass.

Ongoing wishlist for later...

Newfoundland vexes Danny and CPC get at least one seat.

PEI sends a CPC MP to Ottawa.

McKay wins Central Nova.

Moncton comes through.

Conservatives increase seats in Quebec, causing Duceppe to modify his speech.

Garth loses.

G. Kennedy loses.

CPC steals a seat from Libs, and a seat from NDP in MB.

Ralph gets a scare in SK.

Orchard comes in third.

Alberta sweep.

BC gains.

Liberals under Dion have newspaper coverage mentioning John Turner, 28.02% and 1984 a lot tomorrow!

BC Gains for the CPC? Wishful thinking :-)

Good luck to Harper, we don't need no stinking...carbon taxes.

You know, the only thing that bugs me about the Liberals getting beaten tonight is the inevitable exodus (booting) of Stéphane Dion.

That guy was the best thing that ever happened to the Conservatives. I'll miss him.

"CPC steals a seat from Libs, and a seat from NDP in MB."

Given that the seat they'd steal from the Libs would be my riding, I'd love it. Shelly Glover, Metis, bilingual, police officer, versus Ray Simard, who votes with the Bloq against Manitoba aerospace and against keeping criminals in jail.

The seat they'd steal from the Dips will be tougher... Thomas Steen, former Winnipeg Jet, is in tough against a Dip MLA in a strong union part of town. (My parents had the good sense to get us out of White Trashcona when I was a wee lad.)

"That guy was the best thing that ever happened to the Conservatives. I'll miss him."

Think he's going to try to hang on and the battle will be really brutal.

Jim Maloway has been a NDP MLA back bencher since 1986. 22 years and never in cabinet.

Nuff said.

Jim, sure it's a dud MLA versus a Tory star candidate, but we're talking Transcona-Elmwood. Bill Blakie didn't bother to campaign for the past several elections and won handily.

I know the place well. But those burbs have really expanded, and Steen and Hull are the only two sweaters ever retired by the Jets. It's a NDP fortress, and if Steen pulled it off, it would be historic.

I am looking for a Bloc-CHP-neorhino coalition government that will give us the French-speaking theocracy with unlimited funding for mime theatre that I believe will return this nation to its original destiny.

But if that's not possible, then bring on a near-majority where Harper has to work for his $10 an hour just like the rest of us stiffs.

I have three wishes for tonight:

My Conservative candidate beats the Liberal incumbent (that'll mean Ontario is finally wising up and Conservatives will be on their way to majority)

Ellie-Mae is soundly beaten by Peter McKay, and finds herself in third place behind the woman running for the NDP

Garth Turner has to post a concession blog

"Ralph gets a scare in SK."

A thorough trashing at the polls would be preferable. If anyone deserves a swift kick in the pants ... it's this guy.

Wonder if the monsterously huge run up on the stock market will effect the intentions of some of the undecideds. Calm some of the more panicky types down somewhat from some kneejerk desire to change governments and magically save the economy.

Looks like Kate has an early start on shoveling all that global warming from the driveway.

The electorate looks like it is beginning to shovel away the snow-job of global warming.

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

Frankenstein Battalion
2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)
Knecht Rupprecht Division
Hans Corps
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”

At this point, anything keeping Dion from being anywhere near the PM's job.

Eastern Canadians never cease to amaze me.

"go to the DRUDGE REPORT and take a look at Taliban Jack's Election Canada violations "

Taliban Jackie
Have another toke
Of your wacky tabacky
Then blow some more smoke

At the art of bloviatin'
No one does it like Jack Layton.

I'm thinkoing that even if the numbers are not improved we will have at minimum 100 new MP's who will bring new thought, new ideas and a fresh perspective on our parliament.

We had to get rid of the dinosaurs like Paul Martin who collected his MP paycheque for 2 1/2 years for doing nothing while he travelled around the world on personal business befitting his multi millionaire status bestowed on him by Maurice Strong and PowerCorp.

I heard he "cared" so much about his riding that there was barely $3,000 left in the riding account and no executive team at all.

Belinda is another. How many more deadwooods hang arounders like them will finally be replaced by real working MP's?

Belinda was such a great supporter of our Health Care system, until she goy sick.

Then she jumped on a private jet, went to the USA for better treatment and no lineup.

Hypocrite +++

I guy named Jay is right now impersonating a lying Jackal by posting nasty rumours on his blog.

"If anyone deserves a swift kick in the pants ... it's this guy."

Let us not forget that smarmy little weazel, Mark Holland...

If he gets tossed, I`ll die happy...

Oh and my personal drinking game for tonight...a shot for every time the term `vote-rich Ontario``is mentioned by the pundits...

"PLEASE avoid tying up server resources with one-liners"

That will decrease my posting volume by 97%.

If Taliban is showing up on Drudge iit was bought through an aggregator likely 24/7 media.....they have canadian sales and canadian control....either 24/7 screwed up or Jack's group did a bad buy....I look forward to elections canada investigating....

to get to the blogging tories postings, you need an iphone. Or just navigate to bloggingtories.ca/iphone

great news

Look to see Whining Danny boy cry when his Lieberal Red province is as un-represented as toronto...

Frikkin' maritimers never fail to confuse me...

NFLD may regret taking Danny's advice when their shipyards don't get any Navy or Coast Guard business and it all ends up here on the west coast

What a dream come true if Trudeau and May go down to defeat tonight.

"no scruples, no ethics, and no reflection."

Oh so true Fred. I remember when Calgary had an army and Edmonton had an air force... until they voted Reform. That mess was pure spite from the little f**k from Shitwinigan. MP Harper isn't that vindictive but they shouldn't expect any favours either.

I live on the rock and am extremely disappointed.
Give Danny nothing

may and trudeau are both slated to lose comfortably...

noice!

"The Grade 9 Social Studies Class from Arthur A. Leach School in Winnipeg has been thinking about the federal election. Watch them in the hallways of their school as they tell us what's on their minds. Teachers: Kristen Myers, David Wall, and Chris Olenick"

At the CTV website.

Puke.

Let's hope that we don't have to listen to Lizzie May for a good long time now.

:)

CTV "Breaking News" - May defeated.

Breaking news doesn't mean what it used to.

And Fred shows his colossal ignorance of all things Atlantic.

The Navy, CG and Marine Atlantic have had all their work done by Halifax Shipyards for about a decade now.

I have my fingers crossed that Garth T. will be given the oppurtunity to replace Lizzie as head of the greenies.

Oh please wallyj, I'm thinking you don't live next door to his riding. I'm hoping he'll be replaced.

Global Coverage: Two thumbs down.

1) Ipsos Reid commenting on the 3000 viewer responses: 33% worried about the economy. CLOSE UP SCREEN SHOT of the issues of concern to voters. (“Dion chose the wrong issue at the wrong time.” Yeah!)

Preferred Leader? Harper by a mile—but NO CLOSE UP SCREEN SHOT. (So, I don't know the particulars. Neither does anyone else.) “Let’s move on, folks.”

2) Dust My Broom—identified as an Aboriginal site—was highlighted at a Kingston pub, checking out the blogs: the left wing, political poster with the American flag superimposed on Harper’s face was shown (cheers from crowd)—as if Darcy approved it.

3) Catherine Clark, daughter of Joe and Maureen, told us what it’s like to be a candidate on election day. “Well, as it’s a lot of waiting, it’s a good day for the women to get their hair done.” I kid you not!

4) Media talking head (straight face), “Just what is it that keeps Harper from getting a majority?”

But Lizzie May LOST! ALLELUIA!!

Oh dear god...

Elizabeth May: "If kids age five and up could vote, I would have won!"

And there's a few reasons why we dont let kids vote:
1. Crayons just arent a good way to mark your ballot.
2. Drawing a picture of a puppy or a beaver (take that any way you want) on your ballot also isnt a good way to mark your ballot.
3. Elizabeth May would have won a seat.

Hey Atlantic Jimbo, Fred was talking about NFLD in their Lieberal Redcoats not getting any gov'mt contracts...

"2) Dust My Broom—identified as an Aboriginal site—was highlighted at a Kingston pub, checking out the blogs: the left wing, political poster with the American flag superimposed on Harper’s face was shown (cheers from crowd)—as if Darcy approved it."

WOW I missed that! LMAO

On ctv,I didn't catch her name ," I knew Danny Williams when he was an adult". YES.... Jan,I agree with you wholeheartedly.

Brad it's legal to advertise on the day of the election if you are registered with EC. I thought it was weird and checked.

No kidding Tex!!! Jeezzz yer sum smrt eh?

And you will notice he used the Navy and Coast Guard as an example of his knowledge of the area, or rather, along with yourself apparently, complete and utter lack of knowledge of the East.

That's all right though, we have come to expect such arrogance from the new Trawna.

Lizzy has stayed true to the bitter end. I vote her speech nastiest concession speech I've ever heard in Canadian politics.

Cbc is saying that a conservative majority is still possible.

Atlantic Jimbo: I will refrain from carrying on a flame war with you out of respect for Kate's rules but suffice to say that all coast guard and navy contracts do not go to the Halifax dock yards. The shipwrights in St John's and St. John, not to mention Port Hawksbury would be upset at your answer. I probably live within a stone's throw of you so I am no GTA shill.

from cbc.ca
CPC 118
LPC 72

Western Canada still to report

CBCpravda regards the whole election as a joke, starts off coverage with 22minutes and george alphabetsoupius

Best News Yet:

Garth is losing.

Turner tanking!

Go Blue!!!

Turner turfed!

Well, two wishes down. One to go . . . Garth is gone!

Turner defeated!

Mulroney elected!

Garth is done like dinner

Garth Turner defeated!

Zed also gone.

Win for Conservatives in Oakville, too! Bonnie Brown is also gone.

Shelly Glover declared in St. Boniface (Wpg)! Score one for Yukon Gold and the expanding 'burbs!

I will venture that a NDP/lib coalition is not going to be happening this time around. Too bad,so sad.(:-)

I'm watching CTV in a separate window in Firefox and I'm really amazed at what an unreconstituted moron Craig Oliver is.

Buh Bye Garthy! Hello Lisa!

It's so cute to see former lovebirds Wendy Messhead and Petey talk politics.

You said it Hannibal!

Now,to make the night,I do hope that Ralph Goodale joins my good friends ,lizzie and Garth.

"former lovebirds Wendy Messhead and Petey"

I'd love to see her hit him with a cast iron frying pan with Cynthia Dale looking on. Poetic right now if "Little Bomb er Mosque on the Prairie" was advertised about now.

No Garth !!!! ... what will The House be like without Garth's erudite commentary? Boo Hoo ... no more comic relief.

Lizzie should have run in the Sudbury area, near the big nickel. Can't be a looney and a nickel too.

Elizabeth May was banking heavily on the Federal Penitentiary vote which didn't come through for her.

Brian Tobin is seeming to be unusually pompous tonight. My windbag detector van predicts a Liberal Leadership run by Tobin after Iggy knifes Dion in a back alley.

Alan Tonks is still alive?

I hope the Tory support in Saskatoon-Rosetown-Biggar goes up, the dippers are leading there right now... :(

The Liberal MSM is shamelessly showing their anti-con bias. Can't watch either CBC or CTV, it is truly sickening. Not even a hint of objectivity. Just totally objectionable. The only good thing you can say about CTV is that it is not funded by the taxpayer.

mid island mike

One CPC in PEI
Now PeterPansbridge can't declare the parties even ,one shutout in Alberta and one shut out in PEI like last election.
Agree Craggy Oliver is a dolt

GO Blue!!
Close to a majority Vitrivus, you may need to recalibrate.
Actually I think you called it but BC is going stronger for the Blues than expected.

Many years ago I saw two guys in a street fight. One guy booted the hell out of the other. The loser picked himself up and said to the winner "Let that be a lesson to you."
Sounds like the Liberal commentators doesn't it?

"Craggy Oliver is a dolt."

A remarkably good enbalming job by the wizards at Pharaoh's Pyramid and Cigar Store in Toronto's downtown. A big shout out to Akbar and Hasnai from your friend Hannibal.

Well gag a maggot. Trudeau II is on the way?

Raymond Chan (Lib) is going down in Richmond, BC, too :-)

Honest (?) Ralphie elected.

+ Beetlejuice Orchard defeated = 0

Sue Barnes might be gone too, my fingers crossed.

Garthicle sucking and blowing to beat hell on CTV :-)

The only thing missing from Craig Oliver's shilling for the Liberals tonight is a house falling on him from the Wizard of Oz.

Paraphrasing Oliver:

"Back to back minority governments: what the hell kind of accomplishment is that?"

"Trudeau II is on the way?"

I guess the job offer from Al Jazeera will have to wait.

God help us, another Trudeau. The media fawning that's going to happen is already turning my stomach.

Hah, there you have it, Garth says the electorate want to stay with the "DEVIL THEY KNOW in tough economic times."

I suppose Prime Minister Stephen Harper is clipping his horns and polishing his halo.

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

Frankenstein Battalion
2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)
Knecht Rupprecht Division
Hans Corps
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”

Craig should ask about the Liberals back to back losses! What kind of accomplishment is that?

Oliver is clearly pissed. He probably realizes that he may not live long enough to his idols back in power...Peter Milliken should thank the cons(think hoosegow) for a narrow victory.

Please be advised, the king of 'digital democracy' will be unavailable for comment until Garth Turner will return October 29th

Please be advised, the king of 'digital democracy' will be unavailable for comment until October 29th

Why is the CPC wasting so much time on Quebec when it is time to bring Atlantic Canada, Sask and Manitoba and keep Ontario on side?

Too much oney wasted on Quebec, honestly. Danny boy Williams is way out to lunch on his hatred of the CPC considering the benefits NL gets compared to everyone else, but if he can make em go the way of the CPC then the CPC would be in majority territory right now...

If you take a look at Harper's record since becoming leader of the CPC, the seat count for the Conservatives has steadily risen, while the Libs' has steadily fallen.

Like Paul Wells said: "Harper believes the longer he's Prime Minister, the longer he's Prime Minister."

And he's now got a strong enough minority (coupled with a near-bankrupt Liberal Party) that he can pretty much do what he wants.

Yowza.  Strange days ahead, people — Stephen Harper may have just engineered the first minority government in Canadian history that can act like a majority government for an indefinite period of time.

Garth

Why is the CPC wasting so much time on Quebec when it is time to bring Atlantic Canada, Sask and Manitoba and keep Ontario on side?

Too much money wasted on Quebec, honestly. Danny boy Williams is way out to lunch on his hatred of the CPC considering the benefits NL gets compared to everyone else, but if he can make em go the way of the CPC then the CPC would be in majority territory right now...

The CPC failure was wasting too much time pandering to Quebec, you'd think Meech would have taught em.

"Oliver is clearly pissed."

I'd suggest he hold his breath for the next 60 days and then file a live report from his crypt. I'll bring garlic and a Federal Firearms Acquisition Certificate.

Why is the CPC wasting so much time on Quebec when it is time to bring Atlantic Canada, Sask and Manitoba and keep Ontario on side?

Too much money wasted on Quebec, honestly. Danny boy Williams is way out to lunch on his hatred of the CPC considering the benefits NL gets compared to everyone else, but if he can make em go the way of the CPC then the CPC would be in majority territory right now...

The CPC failure was wasting too much time pandering to Quebec, you'd think Meech would have taught em.

I think old Craig died two hour ago, but the tape loop up his ass is still rolling.

Very tight race in Mississauga-Erindale.

Liberal seat holder Omar Alghabra, who you may remember was serenaded with pro-Mohammedan shouts of joy when he won the party's nomination back in 2005, is in a fight for his life.

He's leading by 100 votes right now.

Jane Taber will have to learn a new yodel.

Press your nose to the window Danny Whine Williams, you're on the outside looking in'

langman, Got that right!

langman, Got that right!

Rick Mercer providing punditry on the Ceeb. Sheeesh.

Oliver reminds me of one of those two old Muppets jeering from the balcony.

"Rick Mercer providing punditry on the Ceeb"

That's like believing Count Chocula is a real Romanian Prince. If Wile E Coyote created a tv network to catch the roadrunner, it would be the CBC.

Well, bizarre how we're getting there, but this is what I thought would happen. Gerard Kennedy winning seems to be the disappointment, but oh well.

This is the perfect result, folks. This will keep Mr. Dion on longer.

Press your nose to the window Danny Whine Williams, you're on the outside looking in'

I just hurt myself

Hey, anyone know the independents? (3 according to CTV)

Apparently Arthur is losing, I figure Casey is 1, who are the others?

"Oliver reminds me of one of those two old Muppets jeering from the balcony."

Statler and Waldorf had more insightful political philosophy. They also didn't get eyelid tucks and hair dye jobs to mask the fact that they were born before the discovery of fire in the Nile River Valley.

Tonight on the CBC:
Everyone discusses the Conservatives "failure".
Nobody talks about the Green "success".
Rick Mercer calls for Harper's resignation.
Keith Boag cries.

About par for the course...

Oliver is truely entertaining tonight. When the numbers were just starting to come in he went off that if Harper receives less seats than he started with there'll be loud rumblings over his leadership. Lloyd had to playfully slap him down, "Getting a little ahead of ourselves aren't we Craig?" Oliver sneered!

Susan Ormiston on the CBC talking about "twitters" and "tweats" on the internet re the election.

What the hell is that?

"Oliver sneered"

That's his optimistic look. You should see him when he's in a bad mood.

oh my word. ndp is leading in saskatoon-rosetown-biggar. i think i'm going to cry...

Echoing Hannibal's and cal2's remarks about CTV's Craig Olivers extreme partisan remarks. It was making me so sick I had to jump over to The Peoples Television Network.

Time for this dud to retire. As Leo Amery said to Neville Chamberlain in the House Of Commons in May 1940: "You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!"

I have some balm reading many comments here. Somewhat pithy though..... but certain people deserve it. This as I watch CTV.
There is silvery haired Bob Rae. Ah, says he, rubbing it in, Stephen Harper called the election because he wanted a majority. He hasn't got it.
Never mind. Cameron Ross (Cons). went down in Sault Ste Marie by about only 1000 votes to long time unbeatable incumbent Tony Martin (NDP).
Cameron Ross must stand here again.
Now on to CBC. Someone moaning about the poor Canadian voter being put on to vote . Oh, are they not going to be asking why?
Ad Nauseum.

Carol Skelton stopped by the house tonight to say hi. Let's just say that Kelly Block has a lot to learn about campaigning.

Oliver and Lloyd Robertson congratulate Goodale on winning his riding.

Goodale just on CTV says he had a tough fight as a result of the CPC and the Saskatchewan Party.

Not the "gov't of Saskatchewan"? Oh, I forgot Ralph, it's the CPC that picks fights with the provinces.

"Time for this dud to retire."

I think CTV gets SR&ED tax credits for keeping him around as some type of sick social science experiment. That or he's been waiting for Lloyd to hand him the anchor desk and is beginning to suspect that Lloyd may not have been straight with him all these years.

You can't put one past ol Craiger forever.

Oliver and Lloyd Robertson congratulate Goodale on winning his riding.

CBCpravda now taking about proportional representation.

Pansbridge fawning over Trudeau,puke. I wish I could reach thru the screen and drag his nuts thru his nose

Maxime Bernier gets re-elected with 60+%, thus ensuring more pics of pneumatic Julie Couillard.

Wallyj:

That quote "I knew Danny Williams when he was an adult" was Marjory Lebreton. Best line of the evening.

Mohammedan Liberal Omar Alghabra losing by 8 votes with 30k votes counted. A recount is a certainty.

For a good laugh/puke, go over to Cherniak's and read his mash note to Steffie Dion.

Oliver reminds me of one of those two old Muppets jeering from the balcony.

Posted by: Sounder at October 14, 2008 11:09 PM

Good one Sounder and add Mike Duffy to that.

"losing by 8 votes with 30k votes counted"

Sounds like a job for Acorn -- they could sign up each of the Toronto Argos to vote 75 times each and assure Omar a victory.

Well, my riding is now Tory blue, with the Liberal incumbent defeated... :)

Overall, it appears that, despite the bad luck and an MSM that tried its darndest to help the Leftist Opposition bash the Tories, the Tories have done better than in the last election, with the Liberals doing worse.

While it's not a majority, I'd say that just doing better than last time speaks for itself and gives the Tories a stronger mandate to govern.

The Leftist Opposition can try to prevent governance all it wants, but how, then, will that intransigence play with ordinary Canadians, who want Parliament to work? (They should've elected a majority Conservative gov't to prevent the deadlocking we've already seen, thanks to the radical Leftists, and that includes the Liberals, who are, seriously, leftist, not centrist!).

If the Leftists want to try to bully the gov't, then they'll be the ones forcing an election. If they don't want to do this, then I suggest they be more cooperative and respect the fact that Canadians put the Tories back in power with a larger caucus. This means the Leftists will have to give a little more, be more flexible, more open-minded, tolerant...

Speaking of the elven one.....he can kiss my a55...Peter Kent, the man Jason artlessly tried to smear wins nicely in my riding of Thornhill. And yes Thornhill's nextdoor riding is Marth Hall Findlay's Willowdale.

The barbarians are at the 416 gate!!!

How badly did Jason's little prtege get her butt kicked in Caledon by Dave Tilson......yup I want Jason as my political consultant for his record of success.

Potentate Dosanj losing in Vancouver South.

"For a good laugh/puke, go over to Cherniak's and read his mash note to Steffie Dion."

No thanks, Matt - my digestion is iffy enough as it is.

Lotsa strategic voting here in my riding, with my liberal neighbours going big-L and voting against Peggy Nash and for Gerard Kennedy in the (vain) hope of defeating Harper. Counting lawn signs Peggy had the lead, but principled voting isn't the rule 'round these parts.

Cherniak:

The Conservatives smeared us; The NDP outspent us.

Leadership You Can Count On!

I'm happy with the election insofar as the libs are dead (broke, with a leadership convention to pay for to replace Dion or run again with Dion - either way, they're toast.)

That said, Harper cost himself the majority. He should never have said a word on crime or culture. All he had to do was cruse and he would have picked up 15 or so seats in QC and taken his majority.

Just checked on Cheniak's little bird, Debbie Finch......

Dave Tilson 53.1 % or 21,075
Debbie Finch 19% or 7,551
almost beaten by the Green Candidate

Ard Van Leewen 17.3 7,082

So his protege almost loses to the party that had the main plank of his leader.....you can't write this stuff.....

Oh, and the Libs can't even count themselves as a regional party, never mind a national party.

They only got a handful of seats outside of Montreal, Toronto and the east coast.

5 seats west of ontario (and 7 or 8 west of Toronto.)

Already you know the headline on the Toronto Star tomorrow morning...

"HARPER DENIED HIS MAJORITY"

The story isn't, whatever happened to the once-great Liberal Party?32 seat differential goes to 70!!!... this with MSM attacks al throughout the election.

And if anyone notices, on all the networks (and I'm switching between them) no one is talking about the carbon tax and it's massive rejection by Canadians.

Don't know of anyone else has noticed the omission by the networks. I find it interesting.

Congratulations CPC! BTW next time try running for government instead of opposition, you might be surprised at what happens. PMSH is the best Prime Minister we Canadians have had in a very long time and for him to be re-elected with a minority despite and unelectable opposition leader tells me that the Conservative Party needs re-jig its thinking. I didn't need to hear why I didn't want to vote for the other guys I needed to hear why I wanted to vote for you. No I don't think you had to run around with the taxpayers wallet hanging out but you could have given a much clearer picture of where you would take this nation.

No Harper should not have spent so much time pandering to Quebec (or trying to piss them off, but you have to admit the whole arts thing was way overblown and misrepresented by our MSM).

Rather he should have focussed on the Atlantic and the Prairies. That would have been enough for majority.

Quebec will never be satisfied by a national party for any length of time.

Warwick:

This is the best result for the Conservative Party, without question.

Majority forces Dion out automatically. High enough seat count that all three parties have to gang up if they wish to defeat Harper. No one's going to dare do it, especially the Liberals, so this is a de facto majority. It's not, but it is.

"Hoot, Hoot"

Spins head 360 degrees.

Duceppe is speaking now. All I can think is that this man and his party that doesn't want to be in Canada,is keeping Canada from being everything it can be. What a friggin a-hole. This is not a victory for Quebec,but a slap in the face from the spoiled child of Canada.Next referendum,let the ROC vote if we want them to seperate.

Yes, Trev, it isn't bad at all.

You have to hand it to Harper. He beat the combined efforts of 4 opposition parties and a good portion of the media.

The Liberals held out hope until the end...

...in the background of one of the reporters, they had the CBC on the big screen.

Most of the pundits made the argument 2 weeks ago that the CPC would not do well in Quebec... that was already factor in over the past week when many of them argued that Harper would get the same 127, slightly above, and in many cases under that.

In spite of the Quebec showing, the ABC campaign, a sagging econmy always having a negative effect on the incumbant gov't, MSM attacks, pundit pessimism, polls going in the wrong direct, spin of Liberal vindication on Cadman in the last days... Harper wins 144. Quite an accomplishment.

It is too easy to say that the arts and crime issues hurt the CP in QUe. I think that there were seats won in BC and Ontario because of those policies.

the 'stash is about to speak...

My name is Jack layton and to put ordinary families first, I ran for PM. I ran so that we could put the kitchen table first and not just the boardroom table...bla. bla. bla.

Yes you can see the story lining up about how this was a failure on Stephen Harpers part....even though the popular vote is up and certainly at the high end if not higher than the final polls showed.

In fact they were talking about a Liberal minority being a possibility.

I wonder how many Quebecers are rethinging their vote, if they had known which way it was going.

Anyway. Happy with result, would have loved majority. Oh please let Dion decide to bull his way thorugh this...please....quick jason, blacberry your leader, tell him we all voted the wrong way because we were adle minded from too much CO2....BEG HIM TO STAY!!!!

Nah he'll fall on his sword, being helped downward by Rae, Iggy, Kennedy and Hall Findley.

Kennedy and Hall Findley have lots to answer for....as in they were the KINGMAKERS.....

Should be fun.

My name is Jack Layton and we came within only 100 seats of ruling the country and we kicked lizzie's butt,and those from the indy party too.

"Liberal MP Bob Rae -- a frontrunner to replace embattled Liberal Leader Stephane Dion -- seemed to suggest that his party would work closely with the other opposition parties to oppose Stephen Harper in a Tuesday night interview with CTV News.

But Michael Ignatieff -- the other frontrunner for Dion's job -- told CTV News that talk of a coalition was "political-science fiction" and that the Liberals would oppose the Conservatives "from the centre."

Pollster Peter Donolo said that the silver lining in the Liberal defeat was that their numbers are so low, they could vote against the Conservatives without triggering an election."

Waaaay toooooo funny!

Blech. The Trudeau spawn wins his seat.

Canadians can rest assured they made the right choice for PM. Dion said he will stay on and fight like John Tory.

So when he announces his resignation as leader, we can see that not only does he have trouble making priorities, he lied to Canadians as well.... saying one thing during the election, doing another after it.

Good thing we didn't elect him.

Conservatives gain six seats in Ontario. It's possible there could be a recount in some tight ridings where liberals ahead, possibly placing conservatives ahead.

The expression'tail wagging the dog' is much used in politics. That is what we have in Canada,take out the quebec results and we have a conservative majority. It is a pity and a shame.

A few snippets from a newspaper in Garth's riding:

"Canadian Champion news editor Steve LeBlanc was escorted out of Liberal incumbent Garth Turner’s campaign office just before the federal election polls closed tonight."

"Asked to leave at about 9:25 p.m. by a man who only identified himself as being security for the Halton MP..."

"While Shaye and the security guard offered no reason for LeBlanc’s dismissal, it may have something to do with the fact that the Champion endorsed Turner’s chief opponent..."

"LeBlanc was the only member of the media — among a group of more than a dozen — escorted out of the Main Street building."

Ouch! and LOL! all at the same time; Dion: "The last one I want to talk to is CTV.."

Annie:

Saw that. Laughed my sack off at the irony.

Harper the clear winner...

-Runs for leadership of CA after a tough loss to the Liberals
-Wins the leadership of the party
-After failed attempts, unites the right
-topples the might Liberals, ending their 13 years reign of absolute power
-Told by MSM he could never become PM because he's "too extreme"
-topples the Liberals; becomes PM
-MSM, pundits, critics predict 120+
-supplants LPC as for power in Ontario
-nearly wipes out LPC in the west

MSM can spin it any way they want.

All you need to know about how important this victory is for Harper is to look at the depressed expressions of all of the media on all of the channels. They gave it their best shot and Harper still came within an eyelash of a majority. Hopefully by the next election the internet will have supplanted the MSM.

Greens with 0 seats. Good thing May was allowed to take part in the debates, otherwise Canadian democracy would be a shambles.

Garth turner leaves after his defeat speech tonight in Halton, and then leaves predictably the way he came in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpraJYnbVtE

Keith Boag looks like he is going to cry while talking about Steffi. I think that steffi will make his decision after consulting with his wife ,who will tell him " do whatever the hell you want,just don't fire the pool boy".

Listened to Dion's concession speech and he stated that he had just phoned the PM to congratulate him and assure him that the Liberals "would work with him to make this parliament work". Didn't the PM ask Dion if he would cooperate a few weeks ago? and didn't Dion say "NO". Basically this whole costly exercise could have been avoided. Shame on Dion and let's see if the MSM pick it up.

Some interesting ones for the British Columbia folks out there:

Ujjal Dosanjh (L) in a tough fight against Wai Young (CPC)
Keith Martin (L) in a tough fight against Troy DeSouza (CPC)

Andrew Saxon (CPC) nailing Don Bell (L) in North Vancouver

Gary Lunn wins

Alice Wong (CPC) does Raymond Chan in Richmond

Many Burnaby/Coquitlam ridings very close this time.

Some interesting stuff in BC this election. Seems the Carbon tax a la Provincial Libs isn't going over well and helping the Conservatives.

So Stephane Dion, captured and set on slow boil in the cauldron, lives to babble for another day while the savage PCs (the ones with "no class") keep up their ancient war ritual, dancing around the cauldron with their hockey sticks, Calgary Flames jerseys and Don Cherry shirt collars while calling for the privatization of the CBC.

And Dion fires back: "CTV: they're the last ones I want to talk to."

Beautiful. As Cherniak says: "Leadership You Can Count On!"

Hit of the night...Dion's bodyguard on CTV reporter.
Quote of the night... "the last one I'll talk to is CTV, you understand"

"Didn't the PM ask Dion if he would cooperate a few weeks ago?"

Those type of "future tense" questions confuse the poor, delicate Mr. Dion. You will have to do that question over, and let him confer with 5 advisors.

I hope he phoned Harper from a pay phone.

Roger Smith, CTV commentator, has just cried in his beer about Stephane Dion and the Liberals' lost seats: Poor Dion. Boo hoo. He and Lloyd Robertson figuratively held Dion's hand as they wiped Dion's tears away.

This is all the more amazing, seeing as Dion very petulantly rebuked Roger a few minutes earlier when he, Dion, entered the hall to give his concession speech. When Smith asked for a comment from Dion, Dion snapped at him, "CTV is the last network I'm going to give a comment to," or words to that effect.

Then Smith and Lloyd proceeded to say they could understand Dion's disappointment and went on to gush over Dion's sterling qualities: principled, stuck to policy (he did?) during the campaign, idealistic, loves Canada, blah, blah, blah...

Not a good night for the media...but, then, that was a foregone conclusion.

Lowest voter turnout in the history of Canada.

Question of the night:

Has Craig Oliver flown south for the winter, or will he just burrow underground and sleep till April 2009?

Can anyone tell me how 6 seats west of Toronto makes the Liberals a "National" party?

I heard that on CBC and thought they were on crack.

Craig Oliver just showed his true colours yet again: "This has been a dismal journey tonight."

Well, I guess if you're a shill for the Librano$ it's dismal.

This CPC supporter is smiling, even if Owl Eyes Oliver isn't. Speak for yourself, Craig. Or, better yet, keep your mean-spirited, biased remarks to yourself.

Hang on now. Olivers happy pills just kicked in. He just peed his pants when told Rahim Jaffer is behind in a very close race in Edmonton. He's giving it the old I told you so. Lloyd's laugh seems that of embarrasment.

"This has been a dismal journey tonight."

If you're a ninth inning media hack looking for a Senate Appointment to close out the golden years, and put your nose up Sharon Carstairs' skirt, then ya, its been dismal Craig.

I guess ya got p'owned by the dismal scientist in the PMO.

"Lloyd's laugh seems that of embarrasment."

Reminds me of the scene in Mark Helprin's Memoir from Antproof Case, when the protagonist is eating boiled turkey anus at the company dinner.

Listened to Dion's concession speech and he stated that he had just phoned the PM to congratulate him and assure him that the Liberals "would work with him to make this parliament work". Didn't the PM ask Dion if he would cooperate a few weeks ago? and didn't Dion say "NO". Basically this whole costly exercise could have been avoided. Shame on Dion and let's see if the MSM pick it up.
Posted by: Norman at October 15, 2008 12:28 AM "

huh?

spin spin spin.

the election call was exclusively PMSH's doing, NOT the result of a non-confidence vote.

also:
Harper the clear winner...
-Runs for leadership of CA after a tough loss to the Liberals
-Wins the leadership of the party
-After failed attempts, unites the right
-topples the might Liberals, ending their 13 years reign of absolute power
-Told by MSM he could never become PM because he's "too extreme"
-topples the Liberals; becomes PM
-MSM, pundits, critics predict 120+"

more spinning: PMSH FAILED in the primary objective, a majority parliament. the rest of this stuff is just 'miss congeniality'.

About 6 months ago,Craggy said at the end of a show,"It will be so much fun putting this gov't out of it's misery". Looks good on him,if it wasn't for the liberal sycophants in the media,we would most likely have a majority,even with the New France vote.Quebec is the puppy with three mouths.

Tonight's biggest looser -- David Suzuki.

Kyoto is dead, Canada can now move on.

"Carol Skelton stopped by the house tonight to say hi. Let's just say that Kelly Block has a lot to learn about campaigning."

Good enough to win. Not bad for a raw rookie who was savaged by the local media for taking a pass on participating in NDP orchestrated heckling-fests disguised as "candidate forums". Three strikes for Nettie Wiebe. Time to take her bat and scurry back to the dugout. You can bet that next time around, the NDP will send someone else up to the plate.

This is especially satisfying since the socialists actually thought this one was in the bag.

Dion flip flopped again.

In his ? speech, he abandoned the "Green Shift" altogether. (He mentioned the environment, once, among many other "priorities".)

He knows that his own party's going to turf him, so, being the opportunist he is, he pitched his sale to the Conservative government: "I'll cooperate with the government to strengthen the economy . . . blah, blah, blah . . ." What a narcissist.

After the outcome was certain, I made my way over to CBC. Peter Pansbridge is a preening idiot. It must have been difficult for him to smi . . . actually sneer . . . as he saw his Senate seat disappear altogether. 'Couldn't happen to a more deserving partisan.

I'm just watching the principled and savvy PMSH. IMO, it's a great night!

The Liberals: Canada's "natural governing party"

http://s3.amazonaws.com/scribblelive/d2d9c89e-3d0d-4de6-9fb2-25d42808cc76_300.jpg

An add-on. Quebec is the puppy with three mouths,two will feed while the other will cry for more. Good night to all and thanks to the gracious hostess.

Would I be too bold to suggest that the next "Federal" election in Canada will involve the election of at least a few Senators rather than Parliamentarians.

http://www.ccfd.ca/

I can't believe the elephant in the room, the Bloc's existence as a federal party, that NO-ONE seems to be talking about. All of those smart people, including Chantal Hebert and Andrew Coyne (ok two smart people), talking and talking about this election all night and NONE of them mentioned it!

Quebecers elected 50 or so MPs... elected them INTO THE VOID! They do nothing in Parliament to represent their electors and act ONLY to destabilize the country. And to add insult to injury taxpayers are going to fund this sham of a political party to the tune of MILLIONs of dollars. For what? So that election after election Canadians are robbed of a majority government. People whine and complain about the possibility of a Conservative Party majority, but people WAKE UP. WE would already have a Conservative majority (probably twice over) had the Bloc been dealt with properly.

OK, I am going to say it. Unless the federal party runs a candidate in each riding, or has a realistic timeline in place to do so eventually, Elections Canada should revoke their official party status. The Bloc have no right to exist!

Good night. Thanks Kate.

Let's not forget one of the big lie of the final week... pollsters and MSM working in concert to hammer home: Liberals are turning things around.

32 seat differential becomes nearly 70.

Things are tightening up, they said.

No one predicted a majority. The MSM spinning this as a loss are half right... it's a loss for the Liberals. Whatever became of them? Touted as great economic managers... 77 seats. Pathetic!

One last comment. Rick Mercer talking to Peter Mansbridge and I quote "What is good for us and what is good for canada are two different things".Is he talking about CBC's panel?

bob crooks - I absolutely agree. The Bloc has no right in a federal legislature. It is completely undemocratic to insert criteria for the voter, that have to be met, before you can vote for a particular political party.

At one time, the criterion was 'land'; you had to be a property owner or you couldn't vote. Other criteria were gender (only males); or race (only whites); or ethnicity (no Asians); or religion. In Canada, it's geographic. You have to live in Quebec to vote for the Bloc. That means that we don't have universal suffrage here; you can only get to vote for the Bloc if you live in Quebec. BUT, this same party sits in the federal legislature and makes decisions about you! But, you can't vote them out!

And here, they get about 9% of the vote and get 28 seats, while the NDP gets double that percentage of the vote, 19% and only gets 38 seats. That's undemocratic.

We have allowed the Bloc to exist, and it's the default party of Quebec. Remember, Quebecers don't feel part of Canada. They feel that Canada is a foreign nation and they, as a nation, are trapped within this foreign nation. So, giving them their own political party (nothing to do with separation)..the Bloc is the default party of Quebec.

Notice also, that the Conservatives won this election, not as a reaction of the electorate to the Liberal Sponsorship scandal (2006) but for themselves, for Harper. And gained seats, going from 127 to 145. Almost a majority. Except for the interference of the Bloc in our country.

The Conservatives have spread further in all parts of the country. And in Ontario. The Liberals remain only in Toronto and Montreal and in Nfld. Pockets.

My suggestion? Forget Quebec. Stop pandering to Quebec. As long as it has its own political party, we are trapped with people in Quebec voting automatically for the Bloc. Forget Quebec. The ROC is sick of political parties having to pander to Quebec. Focus on the West and Ontario. Ignore Quebec and stop pandering to them.

Once the pandering stops, Quebec might wake up.

Harper gave a great victory speech. I think he got exactly what he wanted...that incremental step by step achievement. That's his style. He seemed extremely happy about it all. Only the MSM pundits were unhappy. Heh.

Craggy oliver just praised the strong slate of liberals perhaps the strongest of any party.

What!!! Is he blind

Thoughts . . .
-- I think the Conservatives did very well tonight. It is a convincing win -- even though short of a majority.
-- Did I hear Dion say in his concession speech that S. Harper lied re the Carbon Tax? I am not sure if he actually said it or if it was a pundit's comment -- if he did say it, tsk. tsk., most ungracious.
-- What was that totally goofy layout on the CBC these people on high podiums so Mansbridge had to waltz all around the room and gaze up to interview them. A bit bizarre if you ask me.

Kate,
I just got back from the CPC party here in Saskatoon. I worked hard for Kelly Block and I am glad she won. I also was a strong support of Carol Skelton, so what did you mean by:

Carol Skelton stopped by the house tonight to say hi. Let's just say that Kelly Block has a lot to learn about campaigning.

Posted by: Kate at October 14, 2008 11:20 PM ?

I don't mean any offense, I just feel that Kelly did a good job.

Liberal Whip Karen Redman defeated!

ET - thoughtful analysis. The idea that Harper would have won a majority had it not been for the "destroy the country" party of QC is something for everyone to think about. I hope Harper stops pandering to this spoiled, screaming child and treats them no differently than any other canuck locale, and also think the ROC should get to vote on the next Quebec referendum to end the issue once and for all.

Although a Tory majority would have been nice, from a 905-Halton'er, some great news tonight:

1. Adieu, Garth-O

2. No more do I have to gaze upon Bonnie Brown's bitter puss in the Oakville Santa Claus parade. Ahhh... heaven.

mhb23re
at gmail d0t calm

"HARPER DENIED HIS MAJORITY"
A practical Majority though when you add the Liberal, NDP and Ind. seats together, they'll still need allot of help from the Bloc.
Dion is gone, the Liberals got wamped good, real good.

The results are good news, all around! The Green Shift is deader than a doornail!

Omar Alghabrah Liberal Mississauga/Erindale., Gone.

Sue Barnes gone, wish I could the same for that little Quebecois twit Bernier.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking that Craig Oliver had some beef with the CPC.

Since everyone else has pretty much blanketed what happened yesterday, I'll just add one comment:

WhyTF does CTV (or any other network) post a riding result with ONE freaking poll reporting? One of say 247 polls where one candidate has say 15 votes, one has 7 and one has 3. What kind of in depth analysis/news is that? Gimme a break.

Actually the Bloc has every right to run as a party, elect members and sit in parliament ET. Its called democracy. That the Bloc elects large numbers of MPs with a small percentage of national votes is completely irrelevant. Who here would want to live in a country where 'unpopular' view points are banned from holding elected office? The Conservatives lost in Quebec because they did not offer a viable alternative pure and simple. As I said of the Conservatives much earlier in these comments, "When you run for opposition don't be surprised at the outcome".

I tuned into 895 fm to CBC Radio North on my vehicle radio. I was on my way to Hortons.
I heard the words "proportional represention" more than once. Perhaps they did have on a Conservative, almost certain they would. I seemed to get the drift though. Perhaps I am biased. The crisp clear female voices, seemed to be disapointed and did not seem detached.

I thought about proportional representation. Of course, if the Greens got 8%, they would then get about 24 seats- or in a sharing situation with the riding system, at least 12 seats. Problem is then that no voter would have elected them.

Again the CBC and persons they sympathise with seem to cry "no fair". It does not occur to them that THEY are not fair. That THEY do everything within certain vague bounds, to denigrate the individuals and party- not of their choice.

"I don't mean any offense, I just feel that Kelly did a good job."

Gotta agree with you on that Trent when you consider the obstacles faced by Ms. Block:
- she was a rookie to the political scene (unless you count a stint as mayor of a small town)
- the Liberal vote totally imploded
- she was eviscerated by the local newspaper for wisely deciding to spend time campaigning door-to-door rather than attending mindless, shouting matches set up by the NDP
- she was running in the strongest NDP riding in the province. Now I have nothing but admiration and respect for Carol Skelton (the best MP that this riding has ever had) but, the first time around, she won by less than 100 votes)

Joe: "Its called democracy"

Say it aint so, Joe! Your last name isn't Clark by some chance?

A party running on a singular platform to destroy the country isn't contributing anything to democracy. Nothing the Bloc initiates increases the health, security or wealth of their individual constituents. Their concerns are borne exclusively from a special interest group ideology that poisons effective representative government. They are really anti-democracy.

By your beliefs groups like Al Qaeda, Hezbollah and the Tamil Tigers should be allowed to run candidates free to push their hate filled agendas too.

Real democracy doesn't forget about representing the individual first. That's why you're wrong and why the Bloc is a disgrace and a blight to Canadian politics.

When the needs of the individual are emphasized in politics, nobody gets forgotten. The fulfillment of those needs by extension carry on to family, community, province and our nation. However, when the needs of special interest groups, like the Bloc, are emphasized and fulfulled there's nothing left for the individual...hardly a government "Of the People".

Martin B

But who will mind the minders?

Joe, if we had a constitution worth it's ink - that would be my answer. Political parties should only be bestowed with the privilege of electing people to Parliament if they are serious about governing our nation on behalf of all citizens. Election platforms should be pan-Canadian - shouldn't that be a necessary part of any federal political party's "raison d'etre"?

The Bloc has no such desire - it's special interests only extend to a mostly ethnic francophone community in one province. It will never govern...only intentionally befuddle legitimate national business to achieve special interest goals at the expense of individuals. As I said before, that's not participating in a government "Of the People, For the People, By the People". The Bloc's allowed participation in our government is harmful to Canadian democracy.

What Canada needs is the moral, ethical and political will of our representatives to unselfishly enact such a legal instrument to end special interest group subversion of Canada's federal government. Until then the majority will remain checked by the minority in a disfunctional government.

Not too many years ago I watched a group coalesce around the idea that " The West Wants In". It reflected the thoughts of many Westerners at a time when, thanks in large part to Liberal divide and conquer policies, the West felt especially disenfranchised. The party formed almost as a rearguard movement to counteract the interference of the Federal government in western provincial matters. The western party served to destroy the PC party and allowed the Liberals to maintain power for far too long and to the very real detriment of Canada. However I would never say that the Reform movement/party should have been banned simply because it upset the Liberal establishment in Ottawa. The same sentiment runs through the Bloc. They are nominally separatist but realistically they represent the interests of Quebec in a nation in which they have no other voice. I don't think that the Bloc won the number of seats they did on the idea that of separation or the destruction of the arts or the imprisonment of teenagers. The Bloc won because they best voice the concerns of Quebec. No party does it perfectly and the Bloc is no exception but if you had a party that represented your part of Canada and knew that it could tie up the House of Commons if the House failed to recognize your concerns wouldn't you be tempted to vote for such a party?

In the selfish world of "me me" politics such a party represents its constituents very well.

The Reform Party was born in part out of frustration in the West but it was always envisioned to have national reach. The Reform Party also is a party for the individual...that was an integral part of its' platform. Your attempt to equate the Reform Party with the Bloc is like trying to mix oil and water.

I make no mistake about the Bloc - it is a special interest group party and not a party about the individual Canadian. I can not vote for or against it but my life is very affected by the malaise the Bloc is causing in our government. According to how a real democratic government should work, that is on behalf of individuals througout the entire nation, the Bloc serves as an impediment that harms us all in ever corner of the country.

Effectively serving a narrow ethnically defined constituency is no justification for a Federal political party. The Reform party had a pan Canadian platform...the Bloc never has. It's very unimpeded existence is a joke right out of Monty Python's Search for the Holy Grail.

Effectively serving a narrow ethnically defined constituency is no justification for a Federal political party.

Then talk to the Liberals because that is exactly what their divide and conquer policy is all about.

I can at least vote to defeat a Liberal to deny them a seat that could give them a majority to govern. The Bloc only wants to obstruct and is incapable of aspiring to government.

Let's suppose every province has a populist "Bloc" party. How the heck would anything of value get done? Who would lead?

If Canadians enacted a Constitution that puts individuals first then self serving special interest parties would be stripped of the power to prevent good governance. That's when the scourge of entitlement dies and the voters win.

Fully agree but there is no way to 'democratically' impose the will to get along. Persuasion maybe but decree never.