I'm choking through a CIBC World Markets report that indicates Canadian Stock markets do better under Dems, much better. Ref: StrategEcon Aug 29, 2008, p.9. What gives?

The biggest supporters of the Liberal party have always been corporate canada, especially the big banks. In Paul Martin's soon to be released book he heaps some scorn on Jean's decision to remove corporate contributions to parties and only allow individual donations. The Liberal party of Canada has always been well latched to the teat of big business in Canada.

Conservatives have always been and always will be the party of the common man. That's why it's called conservative. As opposed to the various left wing brand names fighting for supremacy within the large tent of the 'progressive' elitist camp,. Social progress has no meaning without a non-partisan, agreed upon goal and the attached, proven, open amd unmuzzled metrics to benefit all - without experiment, mistakes, or the magic of interpretation by way of the secret decoder ring.

Drive slow homey.

As a non political entity, Is it not against the law in Canada, to make political statements? I guess mere fear mongering doesn't cut it.

Or announcing the likely coming of some political/ economic fallout ... no matter how unlikely.

Quote from Daniel Leblanc Globe and Mail article to back up iain's comment @ 11:52 PM

"Mr. Martin added that he still cannot understand why Mr. Chrétien decided to prohibit donations of more than $5,000 to political parties. The Liberal Party had always relied on large corporate donations, while the Conservative Party drew more of its funds from a vast database of small donors."

I can`t believe everyone gets into such a dither over this stuff every election. Be it here in Canada or down in the states the Libs Dems and 95% of the media spout their sh!!!t and the conservatives take it like the troopers they want everyone to be. IT WILL NOT WORK. IF they want to win they have to tell those dick heads that that B S that aint so. You are lying or don`t know the facts. Be aggressive don`t take that crap that isn`t true. Tell them it isn`t and challange them to back it up then jump on them about the crap they are guilty of and tell them to justify that with more than evasive words. If you want to win you have to play a hard 60 minute game and be ready for overtime.

I absolutely cannot even begin to fathom how it could be that the prospect of the global financial system crashing and burning should make Canadians voters start to look more seriously towards Dion or Layton. It seems to be happening, but I Just. Don't. Get. It.

Of course, I don't understand why Layton and Dion's poll numbers went up after the English debate either, or why so many pundits said "You know, Elizabeth May was really very impressive."

Don't really have a favourable view of "average Canadians" at the moment.

EBD -- some people, who I know well, are smarter than I.
Their opinions on social and financial and moral issues are definitely to the right.
They insist that we can look after ourselves better than gov't can.
They hate paying taxes.
They hate the CBC.

But they nearly always vote Liberal federally.

Why ?? Because they get all their information from the media. Namely, the 10 o'clock news during election campaigns.

Are they happy with Liberal gov'ts ??

D E F I N I T E L Y ... NOT !

The Internet crowd is changing all that.

The big bank false flag bailout in the US has given the bank employees a good chance to make like bandits and hit the resort and the spa as has been reported. The Libranos will be more desperate than ever to get into power now that they have heard this new scam. The advert. scam and seperation all over again. Pweeeze twust meee I amm sooo sensateeev an help make mee witch.

EBD ~ "I don't understand why ... so many pundits said "You know, Elizabeth May was really very impressive.""

Explanation lies in the accidentally truncated conclusion of this otherwise puzzling sentence:

"... for a braying, ill-mannered hyena in a bad wig".

All clear now? ;)

Sorry, I know that this is a gratuitous ad hominem, and that one should refrain from this kind of rude comment in reasonable discourse, and it ought to be neither here nor there, but, seriously, what a vulgar, inelegant, unpleasant, and thoroughly grating person. Redefines bad form, manifests a shocking lack of comportment, displays an utter absence of common grace and, to boot, an apparent total ignorance of even the most modest standards of what constitutes appropriate (and respectful, really) personal grooming for a public appearance, on national television, in the presence of the Prime Minister of Canada.

She is possessed of a veritable perfect storm of undesirable qualities for a public figure. Even the Greens must cringe.

Truly, the woman is a disgrace to the commons - but not so much the House of Commons, fortunately, because of course she doesn't hold a seat there ...

Oy.

"Even the Greens must cringe."

I think the fact that she talks fast, throws around alot of big words and cites "reports"; everyone assumes she is right. Has anyone checked to see if those reports actually said that - in any time in recent history.

Ah yes, Lizzy who back in 1978 said "if you tell a big enough lie, often enough, people will believe you". Kind of the mantra of her life huh.

David: "What gives?"

Apparently CIBC is Chinese owned. Does that put anything into perspective?

exetaz: re Ellie May: "Redefines bad form, manifests a shocking lack of comportment, displays an utter absence of common grace and, to boot, an apparent total ignorance of even the most modest standards of what constitutes appropriate (and respectful, really) personal grooming for a public appearance, on national television, in the presence of the Prime Minister of Canada."

You can say that again. I think it's "only-child syndrome." You know the kind of kid? No matter what s/he does, Mom and Dad ooh and ahh and say, "oh, how cute, how smart, how simply sensational"--and all s/he did was walk toward the camera with a tooffy gwin and say "Boo!"

Ellie May's an entilted twit, private-school educated in Farmington, Connecticut at Miss Porter's School, "a highly selective private college preparatory school for girls, aged 14-18."
The school was established "with an eye to educating the elite young women of the Eastern seaboard."

'Nuff said. Oh yes. And May and her parents are close personal friends of the Clintons.

Lizzie May, Queen of Green, is the least of our worries. It's the media, with their arses firmly wedged in the Liberal camp and spinning webs of lies, deceit and outright character assassination of a decent and capable PM who is the right person for the job in this economic downturn. HE IS AN ECONOMIST, but gets no credit for it from the media. If Dion were an economist we'd hear it loud and clear.

Bottom line, if we end up with a Conservative minority in this crucial period, we've accomplished nothing with this election, same players, same games. The only deduction from such a result can be a stupid electorate out of touch with anything beyond their own backyards.

Thanks, Kate.

We need to fight fire with fire.

SDA Nation knows what to do. (see poll)

The great irony is that the only non-elitist in the bunch is Stephen Harper who is constantly being accused by the other four "leaders" (sic) of being an elitist on the side of the big corporations.

The truth is, it's the other four leaders, who insist they're for the "common wo/man"--in Jacko's vernacular "Canadian families"--when, in fact, they're the elitists who want to take the common wo/man's hard-earned money and redistribute it to forward their social(ist) engineering agendas.

Topsy-turvy world.

" It's the media, with their arses firmly wedged in the Liberal camp and spinning webs of lies, deceit and outright character assassination of a decent and capable PM who is the right person for the job in this economic downturn. HE IS AN ECONOMIST, but gets no credit for it from the media. "

Hunter at Climbing out of the Dark has compiled a list of headlines from CTV - sort of proves the point that they are targeting Harper.

Heck NNW today has a headline that the "little guy" is taking credit for the strength of the banks.

I want to know why the media - who all did year end interviews - conveniently do not remember Stephen Harper - at every one of them - predicting this slowdown and telling them how they have put steps in place to weather it. Of course at the time, they were all decrying him as being "too pessimistic".

Come on media - check your archives!

Let's see the polls start swinging back towards the conservatives within the next few days. Seems to me this was a ploy they pulled last election to try and give the appearance of Liberal MO.

Show a swing to the Librano's leading up to the election and then get back to realistic poll results just before the election so that no one can see just how out to lunch they were while they were trying to swing voters to the Criminal party.

Dollars to doughnuts the polls give conservatives a 38 to 40% lead the day before the election. I'm still predicting a conservative majority.

An interesting find on my facebook site where my liberal "friend" linked to this site.

http://site.climateletter.org/List_of_Signatures.html

I wonder how many of those "university" employees didn't know they were signing up for liberal support.

You know one of the first things that needs to be done is we need to get over the 'blame game'. The media is against us, corporate Canada is against us. etc.

A wise man once said that when you are in a race you run your race. You don't focus on your competition, you don't blame the crowd. You don't blame the weather, you run your race.

At the start of the race you run X number of steps per minute. Half way through the race you run Y number of steps per minute. At the end of the race you run Z number of steps per minute.

Yes liberal bankers are crawling out of the wood work to shill for the libs. What have we done before that to blunt their message.

Let's be honest the financial melt down in the US was being talked about 20 years ago. No one wanted to listen but it was mentioned a lot. What needs to be done by the cons is talk up the preventative and mitigating measures taken and being taken to keep Canada's economic house in order.

So...who was Duffy talking about?The banks are fearmongering.

WRT polls;
In our riding the local is a pretty boy town favourite, shoe-in according to all the pundits.
Our riding was ignored by the "Ridings to Watch" people the just figured with all the "I've always voted Liberal" sheeple that he was in for sure.

Our phone polls say otherwise.We have a very close race.

I don't trust Nanos, and I am very suspect of the others.

Bluetech where is your riding?

E. May is a riches to rags story.
Is this what we want for Canada?

Of course the banks are all liberal. All the huge companies (with the exception of EnCana) are filled with liberals. They are the party of rich elites and their wholly-owned stupid sheep.

The CEO of TD Canada Trust was the civil servant who implimented the National Energy Program for Trudeau.

Remember that when you choose your bank if the NEP wasn't to your liking...

Oh, and the Liberal's "star" candidate from the Royal Bank was chief economist John McCallum.

The media is a business:
They need to create as much of a horse race to keep selling print or to get viewer/listener's attention...

...The media is also mostly left bias. So are polling firms:
At the start of the election, the CPC was well ahead. This week, the CPC is "loosing ground" due mainly to "the leaders debate/economic woes" according to the same media who just before the debates told us repeatedly by experts that "debates do not swing votes much, most who tune in already have made up their minds and it is mainly to cheer for their team".

This tell me that the Liberals were, are and might still be in trouble this weekend IF we see polls go back up for the CPC at that time.

It is all manufactured to sell and to attempt in influencing voters and campaign machines at the same time. Start high in early portion of election to attract attention from voter apathy and scare some/get the sheeple talking and CPC campaigners might relax their drive...Lower the polls in mid to late campaign to create illusion of voter fearing CPC (At least a potential majority for this election) and demoralize CPC campaigners...If polls go back up for CPC this weekend, again it will be to scare.

All this media and polling is to mainly influence the people who pay very little attention to issues and rely on sound bites. Many of them don't bother voting anyway.

A few observations:
-Harper has kept campaigning in tight ridings and regions where competition exists. So has Layton. Dion, to this day has spent 90% of his time in Liberal bastions in which many are even threatened. Even after these new polls suposebly showing a Liberal resurgence.

-The only party and province that are giving Harper a headache is the Bloc in Quebec. Duceppe has a huge advantage: He only needs to campaign in Quebec and he gets all the french media attention. The only saving grace for Harper is that the Liberal brand is dead in Qc. I still predict Qc will give and extra 5~8 seats on top of the current ten.

-The Maritimes seem to be going CPC for the most part: Another 5~8 extra seats?

-Ontario is surprizingly turning Blue with the 905 and 519 regions with strong leads or a 3 way left race which CPC could squeeze in the middle.

-Manitoba?(We never seem to hear anything about that province,yohoo! anyone still living there?) But Sask and Alberta will be solid blue.

B.C with a surging NDP vote will again squeeze many CPC seats in the middle.

So, I'm with Johnboy. I still think a majority CPC is real and probable.

I hope you're right Warwick because this is getting so depressing! I'm starting to think like the blogger earlier who almost "wishes" that Dion will get in just so that Canadians can see what a bad decision that would ultimately be......*shaking my head* I need to put that out of my thoughts!

Sorry, I know that this is a gratuitous ad hominem, and that one should refrain from this kind of rude comment in reasonable discourse, and it ought to be neither here nor there, but, seriously, what a vulgar, inelegant, unpleasant, and thoroughly grating person. Redefines bad form, manifests a shocking lack of comportment, displays an utter absence of common grace and, to boot, an apparent total ignorance of even the most modest standards of what constitutes appropriate (and respectful, really) personal grooming for a public appearance, on national television, in the presence of the Prime Minister of Canada.

Yes well just imagine if the unthinkable happened and it became Prime Minister! Can you imagine that disgusting slob representing Canada on the world stage...meeting the Queen or other world leaders? Mind you judging from the support that Poodle Dion and Taliban Jack are polling, maybe that's the sort of leader this country deserves...maybe that's the sort of shame this country deserves.

local radio News here reported today a recent poll taken in Grey/Bruce/Owen Sound, the conservative canidate is leading With the Green canidate coming in second, Liberals 3rd & NDP off the radar here. We have always been conservative here (with exeption of the Chretian years when the conservative vote was fractured).
*note though we had many high profile Liberals cruising through the area before the election Because they figure that their Retired Toronto Latee' drinkers have settled here & they could take this seat, Martha hall Findlay did alot of yapping up here too, Because she grew up in Meaford.
So unless the Sky falls & Chicken Little prevails or the little Boy that Cried Wolf gets his way we should remain Conservative in grey/bruce/owen sound.

Please read Steyn today at The Corner: Keep Your Sunny Side Up.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YTgyYTMxMjM4NTBmMmRkNTM1MzE3ZWMzOTIzY2U2MDc=

He's talking about not losing heart in the US race, but, his comments apply equally to our election.

The CPC will perform better in the election than their polling numbers indicate (as they have in the past). Additionally, while the libs have stopped talking about the carbon tax, people will remember that they would implement it if elected. It would help if Harper started reminding people about it.

The Irving family owns all the newspapers in NB.

Believe me when I say they would make the CBC and the Star look like bigtime Harper supporters when it comes to Liberal bias.

Latest polls show Conservatives 10 points ahead and pulling away. Seats could increase from 3 to 6 or 7 out of 10.

PEI and NS also looking good. Could pick up 8 to 10 seats in Atlantic Canada.

Here in Manitoba, most seat will go Tory Blue. The Dippers will retain Winnipeg Centre and Winnipeg North (Pat Martin and Judy what's her anme respectively). Leslie Hughes is still on the ballot in Kildonan-St Paul, but Joy Smith won the riding by 3500 votes last time and I expect her to retain her seat.

Rod Brunooge is in tough in Winnipeg South against former MLA John Loewen, who lost to Stephen Fletcher in 2006. I guess Loewen figured that Rod was vulnerable, given he only won by 140 votes. It will be close this time again. Of the 3 seat the Liberals have, I expect the NDP to retake Churchill.

Ray Simard is losing ground to Shelley Golover, The Winnipeg Police Officer, who is running for the CPC.

I haven't got a good feel for Anita Nevilles riding of Winnipeg South Centre, but based on lawn signs and scuttlebutt, she may lose that seat to Trevor Kennard, the Former Bomber place kicker, who is running for the CPC.

All other Tory ridings will remain Tory ridings. The CPC are currently polling at around 47% in the province. The CPC may lose one seat (Rod's), but have a chance to pick up two.

"... private-school educated in Farmington, Connecticut at Miss Porter's School, "a highly selective private college preparatory school for girls, aged 14-18." The school was established "with an eye to educating the elite young women of the Eastern seaboard.""

You astonish me. She shows no signs of having benefited in any way, or indeed, of ever having been exposed to, any effort to improve or educate her.

The school may well have been established for the stated purpose; if Elizabeth May is a typical alumnus, it has failed sadly in its mandate. She is a gross social liability and a complete embarrassment on every front. One can only imagine that she was shipped off to private school as far away as possible because her family couldn't tolerate having her rooting and wallowing around the house.

Entitled, perhaps. Elite - not by any standard.

bryanr
I'm in the 'starking' comment riding...Nipissing-Temiskaming.

"I guess I'm not Québécois because I just don't get it. I felt that Dion finished fourth in the debate, I thought when he said he supported home imprisonment for violent young offenders he threw in the towel, and he got walked over by Jack and Gilles on most issues. Harper was the only one who spoke any sense. Maybe it's the beer and popcorn because I just don't get it!"

EBD

I couldn't agree more. I wrote the above last week after the French debate. The only disappointing thing is how I can be surprised time and time again by this revelation. I guess I'll never learn.

In other news on Fox.

AIG, after a bailout. was soooooo concerned they went on a junket.

Approx 400,000.00 of taxpayer money went into things like spas, manicures and pedicures.

Gus, you observed"

"Mr. Martin added that he still cannot understand why Mr. Chrétien decided to prohibit donations of more than $5,000 to political parties. The Liberal Party had always relied on large corporate donations, while the Conservative Party drew more of its funds from a vast database of small donors."

Good observation. I have always insisted to Canadians, since I became Canadian, that the Liberal Party was the establishment party abnd worked hand-in-glove with big business.