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October 6, 2008

Glass Houses

Uh, oh....

...over a quarter of Stephane Dion’s speech at the United Nations Climate Change Conference in 2005 was plagiarized directly from a 2004 speech given to the U.S. Senate committee chaired by none other than…..John McCain.

Posted by Kate at October 6, 2008 7:53 PM
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Posted by: Hard Right at October 6, 2008 8:04 PM

I'm not expecting the MSM to run with this story, but then I guess I won't know because I don't get my news from the MSM. ("news"and "MSM" shouldn't really be in the same sentence...sorry)

Posted by: bdogginit at October 6, 2008 8:12 PM

I'm betting that large swaths of the MSM will suddenly lose interest in plagiarism.

Posted by: Mississauga Matt at October 6, 2008 8:12 PM

it's not izzy being henvironmentally sustenible for da pipples! Der ar honly soo many principles dat are vaugue enhough for de polotiks.....Dis is not fair.....Hi was before dat ...me..Me...Me beefwhore dat man......

Stefan

Posted by: syncrodox at October 6, 2008 8:13 PM

I dug up this plagiarism by Dion. And I'm working on a few more of his speeches.

Stephane. How does that saying go, people in glass houses?

Posted by: paulsstuff at October 6, 2008 8:18 PM

http://www.spectator.org/blogger.asp?BlogID=15028

More than a financial bailout (DIVISION A-EMERGENCY ECONOMIC STABILIZATION). See the actual bill and the DIVISION B-ENERGY IMPROVEMENT AND EXTENSION ACT OF 2008. Is this the liberals plan??

Not Bush/Harper but Bush/Dion

Posted by: Guess What at October 6, 2008 8:19 PM

Tisk, Tisk Dion, aren't you the professor of plagiarism.

Posted by: Hunter at October 6, 2008 8:22 PM

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Too, too funny.

Perhaps we could introduce these politicians to the capabilities of Google?

Posted by: Michele at October 6, 2008 8:38 PM


In fairness to Dion, there's no way he knew what on earth he was reading. His comprehension of English is zero.

An LPC stooge could put "My hovercraft is full of eels" in front of his face, and he would read it aloud, not having a clue.

Posted by: spicydoc at October 6, 2008 8:39 PM

That's ok. Taliban Jack is also running for PM and while he knows English and French, I don't think he can speak Punjabi.

Posted by: bagadonitz at October 6, 2008 8:40 PM

Unsurprising.  Politicians of all stripes tend to spend an inordinate amount of time drinking each other's bathwater.  Guess Dion liked the taste of this particular ablution.  ;-)


Garth

Posted by: Garth Wood at October 6, 2008 8:44 PM

Excellent work paulsstuff.

Posted by: Jan at October 6, 2008 8:52 PM

So will the news headlines tomorrow be about Dion chastising himself? No?

Posted by: Sounder at October 6, 2008 8:55 PM

and Lizzie "Stuck on Stupid" May just dissed Duffy live on MD Prime.

Essentially called him out for journalistic fraud.

That should really help her campaign.

Posted by: Fred at October 6, 2008 8:58 PM
"I'm betting that large swaths of the MSM will suddenly lose interest in plagiarism."

Yep.

Posted by: Christoph at October 6, 2008 9:02 PM

In light of Duff's lead-up to May, I guess the beaver was justified in taking such a large chunk out of his behind.

But that had to hurt...

Posted by: Alienated at October 6, 2008 9:07 PM

Nice to see msm finally point out what a friggin loon May is!

Posted by: Sammy at October 6, 2008 9:10 PM

Let's hang him and Elizabeth May

Posted by: frankthetank at October 6, 2008 9:13 PM

Have to agree with spicydoc, I would say totally clueless.......

Posted by: MaryM at October 6, 2008 9:14 PM

You might want to check the latest entry on the Dion caption contest.

Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at October 6, 2008 9:14 PM

the Dion story now up at Nat.Newswatch!

Posted by: Sammy at October 6, 2008 9:15 PM

National Post has 2 columns on the Dion gaffe! McParland and Kaye both contribute.

Posted by: Sammy at October 6, 2008 9:27 PM

The greatest sin a journalist could commit? Plagiarism... So, naturally, being the narcissistic bimbos that they are, they assume that we will get with their program and measure our political leaders by the same yardstick.

Posted by: Shaken at October 6, 2008 9:40 PM

One commenter at the National Post said something along the line that: Dion's plagiarism contained truth as to the content and Harper's did not...so there. LOL! Simpletons.

Posted by: Sounder at October 6, 2008 9:45 PM

Mississauga Matt pegged it.

MSM circling the Liberal wagons in five, four, three.......

Posted by: mark peters at October 6, 2008 9:49 PM

This doesn't look good on Dion, of course, but what is most important is how he reacts.

Will he:

1) take responsiblity for the copying (obviously done by a lazy speechwriter) and emphasize the policy point of the speech, like a true leader would

2) duck the issue like a politician would

3) say this is old news, pass the buck to an underling, force him to take the blame and quit, avoid talking about the policy point of the speech, like a cowardly not-a-leader Harper would?

My hope would be (1) but the reality is more likely (2) which is still way better than (3).

Posted by: Ted at October 6, 2008 9:56 PM

Call for Monsieur Stephane Maisondeverre. Message pour M. Maisondeverre.

Posted by: Sgt Lejaune at October 6, 2008 9:59 PM

OT? Dionky and Briony, aka Lady Godiva, are too funny, eh wot? It's the headline that grabs >> Victoria's Secret Stinks.

The first comment at the G-M is this:
"Liberals are OK ............. If you cook em long enough from Canada writes:

Dion says - copied word for word - hypocrit

Read all about Dion's plagiarized speech to the UN.

http://stevejanke.com/archives/274965.php"
...-

"“Briony and I think that raw sewage doesn't make sense. If Keith is able to make a case that's scientifically proven that it's okay: Okay. We will not invest for nothing. But for now, my sense that it doesn't make sense to have all [this] raw sewage for a modern country like Canada,” he said. “It's giving us a very bad reputation and I know that the people of Victoria want to do the right thing.”"

"Dion says Victoria's sewage practices must change"
http://tinyurl.com/5y2enc (G-M)

Posted by: maz2 at October 6, 2008 10:12 PM

To Ted:

To quote you. "3) say this is old news, pass the buck to an underling, force him to take the blame and quit, avoid talking about the policy point of the speech, like a cowardly not-a-leader Harper would?"

What are you smoking? Harper acknowledged the plagiarism as a mistake. He said that his Iraq policy of 2003 was a mistake. He said it on on national television, no less, during the English debate.....

I am sick of the bullshit that Liberals put out. They are the dirtiest of dirtiest negative campaigners ever. e.g. Soldiers on our streets, Aircraft carriers. etc.

They should stick to money in blank enveloppes. At least the people understand corruption when they see it. That party is still corrupt. Judging by their misleading ads. Mad Men All!

Posted by: Hoarfrost at October 6, 2008 10:15 PM

Paulsstuff, you are brilliant!

Now for a new attack ad...

Posted by: Joanne (T.B.) at October 6, 2008 10:31 PM

.A couple of questions
Is dizzy lizzy may still a yank?
Is it true that her fathers hotel dumped raw sewage into the ocean?

Both glasshouse questions.

Posted by: cal2 at October 6, 2008 10:34 PM

And tomorrow on the Diddler online show Nick Nanos, as Diddler says the smartest man on earth, will have Harper down to 19 percent with Steffi closing the gap at lightning speed on the fact that conservative plagarism is way worse than liberal plagarism and theft and lying and whatever else despicable liberals do. Harper was able to lower the gst 2 points because that was the amount the liberals were stealing every year in their BROWN ENVELOPE SCANDAL! Oh yes MSM, the brown envelops full of taxpayers cash was a real scandal, not the size of Julies hooters or Cadmans so called bribe. Think of your children and grandchildren you liberal voters, when the taxes go through the roof because of this global warming money stealing hoax.

Posted by: bartinsky at October 6, 2008 10:51 PM

Kady O'Mally from Macleans:

It's not plagiarsim,

its only a failure to "attribute".

I'm not making this up.

Go to blogs.macleans to see for yourself.

Posted by: chet at October 6, 2008 11:01 PM

Kady O'Mally

Guess the peroxide has leached through the scalp to cause cognitive impairment.

Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at October 6, 2008 11:04 PM

OK, I take it back. I said this makes Dion look bad but that was before I realized Taylor and paulstuff were deliberately misleading y'all. It's not Dion who looks like he's desperately trying to change the channel from a collapsing campaign.

Both Dion and Corell were reading from the Arctic Climate Impact Assessment. Dion refers to it a number of times in his speech. Sometimes he reads and sometimes he paraphrases and sometimes he's summarized.

I still think it is not a smart strategy to compare Harper to Bush. Clearly, he's taking a page out of McCain's desperation campaign strategy, not Bush's. Both trying to avoid the economy.

What a "leader".

Posted by: Ted at October 6, 2008 11:15 PM

"Both trying to avoid the economy."

Its a good thing McCain was busy being tortured in Vietnam so that Bill Ayers could set off nail bombs in Chicago to kill and maim civilians.

I guess when all your friends are radicals, every bomb looks like a nail.

Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at October 6, 2008 11:25 PM

Last time I looked Hannibal, Ayers wasn't running for President.

But it is funny how McCain and Palin only start talking about this terrorist attack from a few decades ago only when their campaign starts to go into a nosedive.

But then, as you pointed out Hannibal, McCain is stuck in the sixties so maybe it's no surprise.

Posted by: Ted at October 6, 2008 11:28 PM

Ted:

Actually, Palin attributed the Ayers connection to the New York Times, who ran a story about Obaman's connection to the former radical.

Ayers may not be blowing things up these days, but promoting Marxism instead.

Wait until the Saul Alinsky connection comes up, comrade.

Posted by: set you free at October 6, 2008 11:31 PM

Last time I looked Hannibal, Ayers wasn't running for President.

But it is funny how McCain and Palin only start talking about this terrorist attack from a few decades ago only when their campaign starts to go into a nosedive. But then, as you pointed out Hannibal, McCain is stuck in the sixties so maybe it's no surprise.

What is it with conservatives and election campaigns. Mr. and Mrs. Frontporch are talking about and are concerned about the economy. But you have the McCain campaign talking about the 1960s and Harper saying Canadians are worried about their investments but not about their jobs. Junior's dad lost an election because he didn't get it either: your ordinary voter cares about the economy.

And whether you think "everything is OK" or not, you will lose the election if you continue to act like you don't care or are uninterested by so obviously trying to change the channel.

Posted by: Ted at October 6, 2008 11:32 PM

"McCain and Palin only start talking about this terrorist attack"

Since the MSM doesn't have the cahones to ever ask Obama about it, I guess Palin will strap on the balls that George Stephanopolous and crew lack.

Funny how if McCain had associated with an abortion clinic bomber or neo-Nazi and accepted a board appointment from them, I'm sure Katie Couric would just roll her eyes and say its negative campaigning to even mention it.

12 years as a prof at U Chicago Law School and not a single paper to his name? Most peculiar.

Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at October 6, 2008 11:33 PM

"Saul Alinsky"

Have Ted explain how Saul Alinsky wannabes fix the economy.

And give a read to John Murtagh's Fire in the Night:

http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon0430jm.html

Bill Ayers tried to kill Mr. and Mrs. Frontporch.

Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at October 6, 2008 11:37 PM

Set you free:

Palin was the one who said he was "palling around with terrorists". And if you watch any talking heads tv it was on all of the Republican supporters' talking points.

If I was a Democrat, I'd welcome all the attention on Ayers and Alinsky and any other person who's not running for President and who is not the economy. As a campaign strategy it is beyond stupid because Americans - at least your Main St. Americans, especially those who haven't made up their minds yet - really don't care or, if they do, it is so down the list of their primary concerns right now that to focus on these non-issues with less than a month to go in the election (1) smacks of obvious desperation and (2) shows how out of touch you are with what people are talking about at the kitchen table.

Anyone who continues to spend time talking about the 1960s will not win the election. The Republicans tried to do it to Clinton and lost. The Democrats tried to do it to Bush and his "military service" and lost. McCain's only selling point is that he was tortured during the 1960s and some guy among the millions who support Obama was a radical in the 1960s.

It is usually conservatives who say they can't wait until the last hippie dies, but really, what are you going to complain about then?

Posted by: Ted at October 6, 2008 11:41 PM

"terrorist attack from a few decades ago"

Everyone enjoyed what Bill "Una Nail Bomber" Ayers had to say a couple of days before the September 11th 2001 terrorist attacks.

Campaign Commercial:

"I'm Barack Obama. I can fix the US Economy because I accepted a board appointment from a nail bomber and toilet flushed $152 Million USD of tax payers money down the toilet in Chicago. I've never run anything that made money. I bought my house from a convicted felon. And if you mention any of it, you're a racist and ducking the economic issues that were the keys to success for the National Socialist Party in 1933 with Mr and Mrs Sauerkraut you ignorant non Ivy League Educated plebe."

Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at October 6, 2008 11:44 PM

12 years as a prof at U Chicago Law School and not a single paper to his name? Most peculiar.
Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at October 6, 2008 11:33 PM

Too busy writing two auto-biographies, I guess. The man has certainly built himself a good life, wife, kids, home ... living the dream really. But he has done nothing to warrant the writing of two auto-biographies. Narcissistic comes to mind.

Posted by: CJ at October 6, 2008 11:59 PM

"Too busy writing two auto-biographies, I guess."

I read somewhere that two guys named Adolf and Josef also wrote autobiographies before they had ever accomplished anything of note.

Reminds me of the old joke:

"Enough about me; what do YOU think about me?"

Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at October 7, 2008 12:02 AM

I guess if Ted ever comes back to non-discuss Bill Ayers we can call it Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.

Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at October 7, 2008 12:06 AM

"If I was a Democrat, I'd welcome all the attention on Ayers and Alinsky"

and all their Fannie Mae and Freddie Democrat legislated housing money flushed down the loo, with the path greased by contributions to prominent Democrats including Barack.

Beautiful. A winning strategy.

Posted by: Hannibal Lectern at October 7, 2008 12:09 AM

Has anyone compared boob's speeches to castro's?

Posted by: ural at October 7, 2008 1:58 AM

What I would really like is for someone to find catch Duceppe at it. Either the 'one liners' indicate where his mind is centered (ie:fresh meat) or he has a couple of juveniles working for him. I have to assume he uses speech writers. I would guess that his speech writers sampled a little bit given that there is no coherent style. I never had to do that in my short stint at it ;)

Posted by: Len at October 7, 2008 6:36 AM

Ted doesn't think Obama's terrorist buddy is a problem, because it was in the past.

Fine.

How about Obama's brother? You know, the one living in the hovel in Kenya, who's too embarrassed to admit his brother is running for POTUS?

Yeah, that one. Mr. Poverty Helper.

Filth and hypocrites all.

Posted by: irwin daisy at October 7, 2008 8:31 AM

Great digging paulsstuff

Posted by: Ralph in the east at October 7, 2008 9:07 AM

Ted,

It astounds me that you wouldn't find a candidate hanging around with a terrorist to be a problem.

If it wasn't for the Liberals hanging out at terrorist fundraisers in Canada (see Tamil Tigers for details) I wouldn't have thought you'd have it in you.

I guess liberals check their non-existent morals at the door.

Posted by: Warwick at October 7, 2008 1:45 PM

You guys don't read so well do you. I've said nothing about what I think about Obama's relationship with Ayers or others. I've said it is a strategic mistake by McCain in his campaign to try to pull attention away from the economy to something the general public and ordinary voters do not put anywhere near the top of their priorities. Need we hammer the point home to you folks: it's the economy, stupid!

Americans are worried about their savings, their homes and their jobs right now. They don't care just how many of McCain's organizers are lobbyists (and there are MANY) or even that McCain himself has been caught up in corruption scams, and they don't care that among the millions of Obama supporters some have some nefarious past. But they do care and they want to know that you understand that concern and they do want to know what the candidates will do about that. Anything else - at this point in the campaign, with this kind of economic crisis - is clearly a desperation move trying to AVOID taking a leadership issue on the most important issue to Americans.

Harper is suffering the same problem in his campaign strategy. Americans and Canadians want to know that their leaders understand and empathize with the issues they care about. The Conservatives have done well in the last two elections in making this a core component of their election strategy, but suddenly that instinct is gone. Worse for them, the election is going to be held after Thanksgiving weekend where every Canadian family table will be talking about the economy and the election, and just after an expected to be poor jobs report at the end of this week.

Posted by: Ted at October 8, 2008 9:58 AM
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