Just to give the rope a final twist. Stephane Dion launches a whine offensive;
Asked about the polls, Dion lashed out at Harper for a campaign of character-assassination against him that has misrepresented him and his policies."Never has a government spent so much to destroy a person and his policies as Harper has towards me," Dion said during a campaign event in Stoney Creek, Ont., just outside Hamilton.
He said the leaders' debates Wednesday and Thursday will allow him to reach out to voters and illustrate that neither he nor his policies bear any resemblance to the picture painted by Harper and his party's aggressive attack ads.
"I think Canadians are dying to vote Liberal," he said.
Bwaaahaaahaaa!
"Never has a government spent so much to destroy a person and his policies as Harper has towards me,"
Yep, let's forget about the recent Liberal attack ads.
Dunce.
Posted by: Sounder at September 27, 2008 7:48 PM"Never has a government spent so much to destroy a person and his policies as Harper has towards me"
Not true, the Liberals spent a bundle tearing into Stockwell Day AND Stephen Harper. Too bad for you Stephi, Canadians are smarter now.
Posted by: Peter at September 27, 2008 7:50 PMThey are dying to vote liberal?? Then why are they not willing to do that?
I think he means: "All canadians vote liberal all the time, except when reality is distorted".
Posted by: RW at September 27, 2008 7:50 PMThey are dying to vote liberal? Ummm.... I think their dead; in the water, up a creek with a boat and no paddle. Please, I hope no one feels the need to throw them a lift jacket........skin or swim.
Posted by: MaryM at September 27, 2008 7:56 PMI think Canadians are dying, to vote Liberal.
RE: "Never has a government spent so much to destroy a person and his policies as Harper has towards me,"
Hard to feel sorry for Mr. Dion and his short, selective memory.
I remember Chretien going after Mr. Manning and telling Canadians that he grew up thinking that conservatives were devils that ate babies and not a word was said against him. He was a Christian ya know.
The thrashing that Stockwell Day took, Barney Doll and all, was horrific. The term Evangelical Fundamentalist Christian was spit out by Liberals and their official mouthpiece, the CBC, like some kind of dirty word.
And who can forget Martin's attempt at demonizing Harper. Aircraft Carriers, soldiers in our streets, turning Canada into USA’s 51st state, and terrified women huddling in hospitals….
The Conservatives are rank amateurs compared to all the Liberal spewage we have been faced with the past 13 years.
"I think Canadians are dying to vote Liberal," he said.
Joe Volpe
Posted by: syncrodox at September 27, 2008 8:07 PM"I think Canadians are dying to vote Liberal"
Sign seen in an ER waiting room recently.
Posted by: Howard Duck at September 27, 2008 8:12 PMI AM SO FED UP THE SURREAL ISSUES THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT FORTH, In this capaign THE WHINING, NON ISSUES,the buying OF MY VOTE where do these guys come from? I am totally turned OFF. The party leaders are not doing anything for the country. Nothing of imporance is being discused. The world is now in turmoile and will be for longer than you or I thinK. I WILL VOTE , for the person who I think has most common sense.
Posted by: Ian at September 27, 2008 8:23 PMDion - complaining about the use of negative ads ??
Tell it to your bud;
"Kicking Ass...or how I became the Prince of Darkness"
"That spring I was a member of a small group of Liberal staffers doing our utmost to make life utterly unbearable for Campbell, attempting to link her to assorted scandals, leaking damaging material to reporters and generally depicting her in the most unflattering light possible. It was rewarding work."
Guess who.
Posted by: ron in kelowna at September 27, 2008 8:23 PMthe rise of the ndp shows how pathetic the liberals really are. The neo-rhinos will have a leg up soon.
Arpurr hasnated me!
Here is one of the weirdest articles by Canadian Press ever.
Complete gibberish; incoherent nonsense. Must be a script of Dionky's next bray.
Forget the comments; it's the usual suspects.
...-
"Harper accuses opponents of 'talking down' Canadian economy"
http://tinyurl.com/4z33yc (via G-M)
Dion does not understand that he assassinated his own character. All his career was a political suicide.
Posted by: Aaron at September 27, 2008 8:40 PM“If you don’t vote Liberal, Canada will go into a major economic crisis,” said Ignatieff.
Ahhhh... This from the party accusing 'Arper of campaigning on fear.
Yeah, Right!
Posted by: Zilla at September 27, 2008 8:43 PM"I think Canadians are dying, to vote Liberal."
Syncrodox, Priceless! Maybe in Tombstone, Arizona.
I think the LIEberals should get down on their knees and pray that I don't lose my faith.
43 times the LIEberal 'leader' has behaved like a DIONkey on confidence votes and retreated from the field.
Unfortunately, that is not leadership that is a full scale route. Falling on your sword 43 times shows a bit of a death wish.
When one's constant refrain is "Advance to the REAR, quick march" this is not consonant with leadership.
Even when PMSH pulled the plug on Parliament, Dion failed to author his own demise.
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
Frankenstein Battalion
2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)
Knecht Rupprecht Division
Hans Corps
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
Time to focus on the NDP for sure. Let's imagine a Canada run by Jack Layton. What would it look like after four years?
Would anything be left?
Posted by: Joanne (T.B.) at September 27, 2008 8:47 PM....He said the leaders' debates Wednesday and Thursday will allow him to reach out to voters and illustrate that neither he nor his policies bear any resemblance to the picture painted by Harper and his party's aggressive attack ads....
would that be like the summer campaign that would know and love stephane by getting to know him ?
Talk about missed opportunity! I saw local news tonight and found out dion was in my humble hamlet of Winona (aka stoney creek) and standing invitingly close to the lake...
(Do ya tink it's izzy to dry off when local oaf push you in da lake?)
I'd just like to second Kate:
BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!
Posted by: The Phantom at September 27, 2008 8:55 PMCanadians want a government that appeals to their dreams instead of pandering to their fears, a government with a plan, not an ideology
Iggy, Iggy, Iggy. Are you f---ing kidding me? Talk about the pot and the kettle.
Posted by: bryceman at September 27, 2008 9:00 PMon the G&B site:
May denies reports she supports strategic voting
The Canadian Press
September 27, 2008
HALIFAX — Green party Leader Elizabeth May ended her cross-country train tour in Halifax Saturday, denying reports she's urging supporters to vote strategically in a bid to unseat the Conservatives.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080927.welxnmay0927/BNStory/Front
Now, now, wyatt salt, lets be a little more civil. Were better than that.
Posted by: qwerty1 at September 27, 2008 9:22 PMI wonder how much the liberals spent trying to link KHS with Mulroney and Harper? Oh,sorry,that was the cbc spending millions,sometimes it is difficult to tell the two apart. Someone should spray them with a hose.
Posted by: wallyj at September 27, 2008 9:28 PMJoanne noted, think of a Canada run by Layton, what would it be like after four years.
I live in BC, and have experienced NDP government first hand.
It would ruin the country.
I wrote about this last night, called it "Dippernomics".
Posted by: Springer at September 27, 2008 9:31 PMBreaking News...
In a related story, Citoyen Dion, citizen of France, surrenders...
Bwaaahaaahaaa!
Posted by: Bruce at September 27, 2008 9:44 PMAww, look at that.
Another little footnote in the history books.
BTW, I think Footnote Dion would be doing better if he had his righthand man Gerard Kennedy guiding him.
BTW where is Mr Kennedy?
heh.
Posted by: rockyt at September 27, 2008 9:46 PMMaz2, I read silly CP article. The author has been reduced to providing Grit talking points, telling us what Liberals might say about Harper's comments.
As for the debate, I predict Dion will either be a little mouse in the corner, or do a complete meltdown, likely in the English version.
No way he touches Harper, who has to simply fend off combined attack, to secure at least greatly increased minority, with majority now a distinct possibility, given the abysmal performances of Dion and Layton (May is irrelevant).
Duceppe, at least, has managed to secure his base, so look for lively exchanges between him and Harper.
Posted by: Shamrock at September 27, 2008 9:54 PMFor pure character assasination, and personal attacks, mo one has come close to Trudeau's assault on Joe Clark. They used slow motion video, distorted photographs, bad angle shots of Clark's chubby chin, and on, amd on. It ruined Clark's career, and probably turned him into the nutcase he is today.
Posted by: dp at September 27, 2008 10:07 PMkennedy is fighting for a seat in High Park, Toronto, against the incumbent, Peggy Nash, NDP. It's an extremely tight race. There are a zillion lawn signs - and it's hard to know who is ahead.
As for the debates - I wonder if the fight will be so much against Harper, as a fight by the four Left Parties, amongst themselves.
The race is - who will be Second? NDP or Liberal? That possibility, a tectonic shift, is a stunning reality. How has it happened?
Was it because Harper, knowing that Canada has been locked into a Cocoon of centrist socialism for the last 50 years, moved the CPC closer to that domain..but also, importantly, recognized and redefined the nature of 'middle Canada' by focusing on the emerging class of small to medium businesses (rather than the Big City Govt Funded professionals)?
The Liberals, instead of acknowledging this new class, hung on to the Old Guard of Govt Funded Professionals..and made the fatal error of moving further and further to the Left. This ignores that new middle class.
And, instead of developing policy for their Party, they spent the last two years trying to dig up smears against Harper.
The NDP? Weird. After all, they've always been the Party of the Lunch Pail Worker, despite that reality that such a Worker in most cases earns more than any small/medium business and is as cocooned as any govt employee. But they at least have remained tied to a set of policies.
May? I admit I can't stand to listen to her non-stop tirades. But she's the Environmental Lady (not that she knows a thing about it as a science)..and she'll actually function to harm Dion - because he's taken so much of her verbiage as a cover for the Green Shaft Tax Grab.
Posted by: ET at September 27, 2008 10:11 PMThis reminds me of final days in the 1993 election when my local Progressive Conservative MP finally grabbed a clue and in a fit of panic began his door-knocking campaign. His limo (I kid you not) was parked, badly hidden, at the end of our street and he and his suits (one being the limo-driver) literally ran (well the MP waddled at a fast clip) up and down the block trying to alert the dead to the horror that was about to befall them - he and many other colleagues were about to lose their jobs.
The vote on the right was split between the Reformers and the PC's. We had a Reform sign on our lawn so naturally we got to meet the big man himself, who literally pleaded with us to change our vote. Given the ride and the attire it was most undignified - pathetic and funny at the same time. The rest is history as was he and the Progressive Conservative Party.
I am now envisioning the same ignoble end for the Liberal Party of Canada as we know it. It took two elections to do it but come October 15th, they may surely wish it hadn't as that humble pie is well beyond its 'best by' date and will be ever so much more putrid.
Posted by: Jan at September 27, 2008 10:25 PMThe original thought in Dion's peabrain was "I think Canadians are dying because they voted Liberal" but after translating from French to Stupid to English it actually came out as "I think Canadians are dying to vote Liberal"
Despite my best intentions to try to be nice to all people, some folks are just looking for an a$$ kickin....
I really gotta get this off my chest..."STUPID LIBERALS"
Now I feel better...where's the rye....
Posted by: DVC185 at September 27, 2008 10:30 PMJust a thought: no doubt the Liberal bear is wounded, floundering in space. Just as we were a couple of years back.
Should we win the Holy Grail of Cdn politics, ie the coveted majority, then we'll have 3.5-4.5 years to right the Good Ship Canada and show Canadians that their country is in responsible hands.
To think that the Left will fade away is wishful thinking. They'll regroup just as we did, perhaps with a merger and that would be a good thing: to keep us in check so to speak.
So let's make this shot count, drop the bear in its tracks, and make the country better after the election.
Posted by: PhilM at September 27, 2008 10:33 PMKate:
I'm not so sure that the NDs should be attacked. to do so would drive it support largely one of two ways - to the greens and to the LP. With May looking as bad as she does (and how bad will she be in the debates?)I think that many will return to the LP fold if the NDs are made radioactive (whicn is a possibility if the truthers story has legs).
The reason why I couch the above with a "not so sure" is because I know that the CP has done polling in the past the shows a significant portion of the ND support actually could vote for the CP with crime and punishment being the big motivator along with other urban blue collar issues.
Posted by: Gord Tulk at September 27, 2008 10:40 PMET:
Are you Michael K. who hate Muslim in past 4 years
????
+++++++++++++++
In addition:
I think you need to cool down a bit and try to vote but try to no supporte liars too in any shape or any execuse
The biggese problems in Canda lack of honest leadership so far and good politic direction!
The news of truth of Sep 11 was brought up by
not conservative and Harper who was visited Afganstan very closely
it means for 3years Harper did not let anybody know the truth about Sep 11 that was not Muslim
instead all blogs of conservative used Muslim as issue to bit Muslim up to find criminals
it was lefi as you said or oppostition who brought bill i bleived it was in british Coblimbia and you keep call them "lesbi."
as made fun of them
Therefore if Dion fired that lady in Liberal
should not link with Sep 11 it is link to she may not know and not proof to say something yet
with enough documetn by government yet
I am not sure
but it also do not proof Harper and conservative are truthfuill p eopel and if they come up they care about Muslim Candaian too
sorry We still not get convinced to vote to any body yet
No Harper yet until he learned to
tell his stupid jduge in Canda do not lie
adn say " NO CAUSE OF ACTION" when all truth was reveal only becase they do not like to support small or Muslim people
Harper must promise and otehr party as well
to do equal right for Candaian
do not let LOBLAW COMPANIES SELL FRUAD HALAL
in Canada because they can lie and steal busienss and and bring all son of dogs to do any illegal
Finally Canada is catching up to me. If Steven is able to secure a majority it will be a crowning moment in my life, I sat in 1968 and watched that commie, Canada bankrupting Turdeau buying Coke for everyone in the house to win the leadership, I was 12 and I said to my father, that is blackmail. This country has for forty years been run for the benifit of a certian family in Quebec and a few other theives like Mao Stlong, and finally if PMSH can win a majority Canada will be run for the benifit for ALL CANADIANS. Please give an honest man, a conservative, a family man, a majority, even you liberals evolution has forgotten will not be sorry.
Posted by: bartinsky at September 27, 2008 11:28 PMNDP is support more in MUSLIM right so far and
in multiculrism and human right so far
not Liberal or Conservative
but still I need more research about new NDP group here in Toronto
Posted by: new at September 27, 2008 11:29 PMNever has a government spent so much to destroy a person and his policies as Harper has towards me;
What a load of bunk. Even an economic moron like myself can see the disaster this plan will cause & who its targeted at. The Conservatoiioves don't need a dime to sell this as the white elephant it is. The cowardly lion is at it again.
JMO
Posted by: Revnant Dream at September 27, 2008 11:32 PMDaninVan;
My worry is that anyone with any small c conservative ideals will automatically be put threw a PC filter that no one but red Tories need apply. The guy who spoke about the cowardice on the bus was right. They where not hero's. Is running away now the Canadian standard of honor?
If Harper is against his support for gun ownership is he also for the gun registry? He sure hasn’t stopped it. We all know as well that we have an immigration problem. I suppose elections are not for talking about that as well.
Tired myself of the politico's setting priorities & agendas for us. It should be the other way around.
By the way I agree with your point on being a public figure , but still don't we all deserve free speech to find out what these folks really think instead of the party line?
I must say I completely agree that once they are voted in they become drones of said party. Like Australia I think we should vote separately for a PM. That may lessen the strangle hold of party whips on back benchers.
"Never has a government spent so much to destroy a person and his policies as Harper has towards me,
Gee I pity the Liberals....poor them someone is attacking and destroying them. Just remember what the Liberals did to Stockwell Day.
That makes what is happening to the liberals all that much sweeter...........what goes around comes around
Posted by: notasocialist at September 27, 2008 11:52 PM
1) Lesley Hughes is Ba'hai Faith
then she can not supporter of Muslim or otehr relgin here espcially intend to help MUSLIMS
as conflict between Bahai and muslim in today world in Middle east
2) global and mail are supporter of ISREALI as Welikepeida describe most of their writer are blindly hate Muslim and like Jews
3) matter of isrealy may involve in Sep 11 must investigate with independent group defintly not conservative but also independent not Bahi or not belive god like ET to proof who is tell the truth
the person must or group msut mean to do investigate not for sake of power and money of pary ONLY because of victims family remainag has right to know and get justice and also Muslim want to know more detail truth
I do noty know why but most Bahai are rich people espeiclay in Austrail and they have big center in TORONTO as well
I met at least 5 of them in Toront but they were kind people not know politic well and not follow their relgion too only have neckless to proof they are bahai!
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//www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080927.BLATCH27/TPStory/National/columnists
Lesley Hughes is a member of the Ba'hai faith, whose cornerstone, she said in a 1998 online report of a "Faith in the Newsroom" workshop, "is that the law is love." she is rich too!!
Two years ago, she was a supporter of the United Nations Platform for Action Committee (Manitoba), or UNPAC for short, and did a radio interview with the "Femme Fiscale", a superheroine created by the group, who "flew into the Manitoba Legislature to ask how Budget 2006 would make life better for the province's women
She also has written a one-woman play, Bloomberg's Radio, launched in 2002 at the city's famous Fringe Festival.
It was there that the first glimmer of what was to come may have showed itself, for in an interview, Ms. Hughes told the writer Morley Walker, "Both U.S. and Canada have become quasi-security states" because of laws passed since the Sept. 11 attacks.
"We just haven't found that out yet," she said. "And the mainstream media in North America are doing little to challenge this."
Then came the story she wrote called "Get the Truth" and which cost her the candidacy, and which read, in part, "Israeli businesses which had offices in the Towers, vacated the premises a week before the attacks, breaking their lease to do it. About 3,000 Americans working there were not so lucky."
It was no one-hit wonder, either. According to one of the many 9/11 conspiracy websites, Stop Lying, Ms. Hughes was part of a "push for truth" about 9/11 in Winnipeg in the spring of last year.
At an evening called "Code of Silence" hosted by Barrie Zwicker, who has written a book and produced a documentary on the "media coverup" of 9/11, Ms. Hughes was part of a panel discussion on the same subject.
Funny, but eight years ago, when Stockwell Day was running for the leadership of the old Canadian Alliance, Free Press columnist Gordon Sinclair Jr. wrote about an encounter Ms. Hughes, then a freelancer, had with Mr. Day.
She approached Mr. Day to ask what she called "an awkward question."
The question was, "Jim Keegstra [the Alberta Holocaust denier convicted of promoting hatred against Jews] claims to be a friend of yours" and "that he would vote for you."
Mr. Day was upset, and Ms. Hughes said, and I can imagine her smarmy smugness, "The part of the country you come from has struggled with a lot of ugly movements.
"I'm thinking here about the whole neo-Nazi thing and racism of a very virulent kind."
Well, what goes around comes around, even to a good leftie Canuck.
new @ 11:54 pm: Too long, didn't read.
new @ 11:29 pm: Short enough, I read it. Still trying to find a "new::Klingon::English" translator to make sense of it.
Posted by: KevinB at September 28, 2008 12:24 AMSpringer:
Hey, in Ontario, we lived through 4 years of Bob Rae. Yet we still elect Smilin' Jack, Olivia Chowhound, and other NDP morons.
But in the Conservative campaign I'm working on, we have a standard joke in the office "Voting Liberal is like having sex with a condom. What's the point?" (i.e. it defeats the purpose (procreation) and eliminates the pleasure). If someone wants to vote left wing, have the nuts to vote NDP; otherwise, vote Tory. Voting Lieberal is just wishy-washy, half-way thinking.
Posted by: KevinB at September 28, 2008 12:33 AMKevinB
sorry!
my post on 11:45 is for master degree and phd
student
and
11: 29 is for grade 1 student in school
keep reading one day you get what i am try to say
--
Did I said I took 5 master courses also at UofT
in master degree too with A
mark in information technology
oh I forgot! sorry again
I will help you in Muslim to NonMuslim dictionary
By the way Richmond hill are close to Toronot
are you chines? or better can say Hongkong richboy
I can send Chinse-Muslim dictionary too
In Toronot are all chinese and Jewish and Italian No White here all gone out of Ontario to Alberta!
Posted by: new at September 28, 2008 12:33 AMnew, please post your drivel on a Sanskrit site where you may find an audience that actually listens to you.
Posted by: Chris at September 28, 2008 12:38 AMSounds like Dion needs to change his first name to Celine in order to get any popularity.
Posted by: Yomi Mizuhara at September 28, 2008 12:40 AMnew @ 12:33
"Did I said I took 5 master courses also at UofT"
And, with grammar and diction like that, if you passed any of them, I'd be amazed. Don't confuse attendance with, um, actual learning.
Posted by: KevinB at September 28, 2008 12:42 AMI like french men, they have heart and they look very very kind people and more polite
white people do not have heart and cold and rude
with full of word of F S and Sex and etc mouth
now Dion got emotion since he does not know how to deal with bad boy Harper and how to act with his cold smile
Harper is scary to me even if I do not vote to anybody yet still thinking
Posted by: new at September 28, 2008 12:46 AMAngus Reid: Con-40%, NDP-21%, Lib-21%, BQ-10%, Gn-7%
http://www.angusreidstrategies.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=news&newsid=321
Also: "In the preferred prime minister question, Harper remains ahead of his rivals with 33 per cent (+1), followed by Layton with 18 per cent (-1), Dion with nine per cent, Duceppe with three per cent, and May with two per cent."
Conclusions:
- With Liberal brand at 21% and Dion at 9%, that means more than half the Liberal brand supporters do not like Dion.
- With NDP and Liberals tied at 21%, and Layton at 18% versus Dion at 9%, Layton can legitimately promote strategic voting in favour of the NDP.
- With the spread between the Conservatives and Liberals so large, the H&K Seat Predictor gives Conservatives 166 MPs .. a majority.
- With the Liberals sinking in the polls, the BQ could rise to Official Opposition Party rank, requiring a big strategic shift from Liberal to NDP to win second place and deny the BQ OOP status.
- With Liberal support sinking so low, it's probable that Liberal vote may only be in the teens on election day due to poor voter turnout for Liberals.
Most all other polling shows the same results.
Posted by: Observant at September 28, 2008 12:54 AMNew as in New Democratic Party??
Posted by: bubba Brown at September 28, 2008 12:58 AMrather than university ID card i showed
them Conservative ID membership I am going to vote for harper they gave me a A mark
PLUS I was only white there
plus in UofT are all chinees they did understand me and thy never complained about my English
I talked Middle eastern ( not English) and they talk chines and we both passed the courses
I have engineering degree master degree courses, computer programming diploma and Physic two years diploma and one year Muslim religion diploma
it all ONLY
computer programming it was too boring to me
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thank you any way you read finaly one of comment
Posted by: new at September 28, 2008 1:01 AMWhen I read these comments I play a little mind game with myself. Within the first sentence or two it is usually quite easy to spot "news" post. I then scroll to the end to see if I am right, which I always am. It is a little annoying though but then my mouse works quite well.
Horny Toad
Posted by: Horny Toad at September 28, 2008 1:49 AMnew: "rather than university ID card i showed
them Conservative ID membership I am going to vote for harper they gave me a A mark"
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha - stop, my stomach hurts. Keep posting the incomprehensible, idiotic drivel. Please note, if it's more than 10 lines, I'll skip it. But the short ones really make me laugh.
I was going to offer a free, large, all-in pizza to the first person that can decipher one of 'Newt's' opuses (opera) but then I thought "that's just silly; then I'D have to read it to see if the answer was correct...no f'ing way!"
Posted by: DaninVan at September 28, 2008 2:17 AMNew, please come clean and tell us who you really are and what your damage is.It will be very cathartic.
We don't buy your act, and as a former Intel officer, i can tell a few things about you, my friend.
Would you like to guess what i know about you, and why you do what you do?
Would you like to guess how long it would be before authorities could find you if you posted one iota of dangerous drivel?
try me, baby, try!!!
Posted by: Kursk at September 28, 2008 3:33 AMI agree with a couple of the lads here (ex forces..)that New is a plant, and we all be best aware that he could be HRC, or at the very least leftist inspired or sponsored.
Just for giggles New..
A) English is your first language.
B)You have at least a high school education , when comparing the syntax and prosaic style of the comprehensible language you use..
C) You have an above average comprehension of the English language that somehow does not translate into to the sentence structure you use.
You sometimes forget to spell the words you use the same way..we watch..
Keep playing though, we know what your game is, and we will soon know who you are.Don't bullshit a bull shit decipher New, you will lose every time.
Posted by: Kursk at September 28, 2008 3:44 AMThere is a lot of talk of the Liberals slipping into third place in this election.
On seat count they could easily end up 4th.
Posted by: Tory Owl at September 28, 2008 4:36 AMAgreed. Layton has been unable to capitalize on the Liberal's weaknesses as deeply as Harper has; Harper would lend Layton a strong hand against a mutual foe to start treating Jack as Opposition.
Posted by: Jason Bo Green at September 28, 2008 5:25 AM"I think Canadians are dying to vote Liberal."
As usual, Dion screwed up the English. He meant to say, "Canadians would rather die than vote Liberal."
Posted by: Sheila T at September 28, 2008 6:39 AMDion, the whiny wiener who can't handle the Big League.
Would someone inform him he's in the game of politics, the other parties will critique his policies.
Yes, Harper needs to move on to the NDP. God help us if ever that insanity plank ever gets close to influencing policy in this Country.
Only a good Majority for Harper will save this country from ruin within.
Should the tipping point be crossed and the tories win a strong majority, greater than 175 seats, some scenarios show 200+ seats (dont laugh the Liberal collapse is THAT bad), then one hopes Haprer isnt afraid to use his majority.
Mulroney won 200+ seats, but allowed himself, his party and his government to be shoved off message and strategy. Mulroney was also trying to build a long term Con coalition and this hampered his efforts.
This does not mean burining the house down, this does not mean bullying the opposition with closure, but it does mean moving forward with relentless pressure on key items to ensure things have been done two years to 2.5 years into mandate. You need the time so effects can be seen.
A little premature but please please dont let a new Rat Pack blow you off course, cut my INCOME taxes (without raising other taxes), reorder government spending to get rid of the teat suckers, roundhouse Danny Williams at least twice (sell Nfld to Cuba) ensure the Cdn military is beefed up further for the fights you know are coming, ditch the HRC's, clean out the CBC if not ditch it, get rid of payroll taxes (why tax jobs), change the tax structure to radically reward productivity and capital investment, change the immigration system to the Australian model (putting numerous Liberal immigration lawyers out of work)...and if you really are working on an EU Free trade agreement get it done, great idea.
Oh and if the AMericans really do want changes then please ensure there is labour mobility in Nafta, real labour mobility...concession is between citizens not just residents.
Oh, this wont get you any votes but it is needed, try to get the Civik Service de wormed and not restuffed with Conservative hacks but with true professinals, the judiciary as well. I have to say I would love to see the 2 SC appointments during your next term that might shift to a less activist line.
Aand dont go into deficit, no matter what the temptation.
Don't blow the opportuntity, if you are going to be kicked out the next time, let it be because you did what makes sense rather than than try to cement the cons into something they arent. Trust me, Canadians will vote respect over love every time.
Posted by: Stephen at September 28, 2008 9:04 AMWhereas collapsing Liberal support does hold some promise for a Conservative majority, I will remain cautious until about a week before Election Day. The debates still need to happen; these will be followed by analysis and digestion of the results. Then we will need a few more days before new polls come out that measure the post-debate mood of the nation's voters. This caution does have the benefit of making surprises somewhat pleasant.
A second point that needs to be considered is the following. Let us suppose that we are seeing a meltdown in Liberal support and that it translates into a seat count in Parliament that is less than, say, 50. Is the meltdown Chretien/Dion-led or is it Liberal Party-led? I will ask those two questions in another manner.
The first question follows. Are we witnessing the (late) turfing of the Chretien government that should have happened in either 2004 or 2006 (but is happening now) and is similar to the 1984 Liberal thrashing that the voters aimed at Trudeau but hit John Turner? If 2008 is 1984, then is Chretien/Martin actually Trudeau and is Dion actually Turner?
The second question follows. Are we witnessing the beginning of the end of the Liberal Party in a similar exercise that did in the Progressive Conservatives? If 2008 is 1993, then is Dion/LPC Leader(2009)/LPC Leader(2013??) actually Kim Campbell/Charest/Clark ?
It is too early to determine which of the two paths we are witnessing. However, as I mentioned at the beginning, we must first determine if the LPC meltdown will be reflected on Election Day. This question is actually the most interesting question (for me) in the current election.
Your all wrong, News problem is that he is a graduate of Dions class at Dions university, that is scary! Used to be we had mostly slimy lawyers running for politics now it is moronic professors.
Posted by: bartinsky at September 28, 2008 9:51 AMExcellent post Stephen at September 28, 2008 9:04 AM. I will disagree on SC comment. I think Canada doesn't need anymore Senators screwing up the system. We pay them an outstanding income and they are not worth it. I think PMSH if getting the majority should introduce and get law threw parliament that there is no more appointed senator's and no more income raises for these people.
When this law hits the senate committee then we might actually see what and who we are paying for. Just a thought.
New; Kate doesn't want us to feed trolls but I have read in recent posts that you are disgusted with "Loblaws". Why don't you and your Muslim friends stage protests at all "Loblaws" and affiliate companies that are owned by "Loblaws" or who ever owns for not selling you the Muslim food you want. Just a suggestion.
Posted by: Merle Underwood at September 28, 2008 9:57 AMI think all the coverage, post results Oct 14, will be shock and awe. Layton will have to explain why he is not PM, and May will be telling us that cdns don't care about climate catastrophe, Craig will say good bye to his senate seat, Dion will be in a fetal position saying, it's not fair, cdns don't love me, and will resign as leader in a fit of passion. Who he appoints as interm leader will start the fight between Iggy and Rae, and the whole game will start all over. He could appoint someone like a liberal from AB (lol) as interm leader. Duceppe will cry that he warned he was the only one to stop a majority, and failed. Mercer will apologize for not having a petition to change Dion's name to Celine.
The good news is we will no longer be paying for Belinda and Paul Martin to not show up for work.
Garth will be blogging on how he screwed up by going against his leader and crossing the floor and there will be no green MPs in the HofC.
Lots of crow to be eaten by the media and defeated leaders and candidates.
If we do get a big majority, and cbcers see the writing on the wall there might be many of them heading to Al-J tv.
Let's not forget Mary Walsh's characterization of Mr Harper: arse licking satan. yeah satan. sheesh?
And so we have cityoen Dijon bemoanig his lot:
" izz not fair!"
Hahahaha, what a maroon....
Posted by: eastern paul at September 28, 2008 11:43 AMAwwwhh!! Tough love for you Stephanie!! Maybe you can join the former PM, PM on his LOVE boat and disappear forever!!!!!
Posted by: Roberto at September 28, 2008 12:18 PMStephen at 9:04AM. Good Post. I agree with everything stated. After election Cdns should ensure Harper steers the ship of state in right direction.
Posted by: prospector at September 28, 2008 12:22 PMMerle Underwood @ 9:57AM. I believe the SC reference was in regards to the Supreme Court not the Senate. However I agree the Senate should be abolished as well.
Posted by: prospector at September 28, 2008 12:27 PMGood comments overall. I would disagree, however, that strategic voting in Quebec, will benefit NDP. That could only happen in Montreal, with rest of Quebec going to Harper.
Anyway, the power of strategic voting is way overblown; it did not stop Tory majority in 2006 IMO, a full court press by Grtis weekend before election got back some of their vote, which stopped Harper majority.
Harper can safely ignore Layton, especially with his lamebrained increase of Child Benefit to maximum of $400 per month. NDP will scupper itself, just wait for their platform.
Layton is shoring up the left part of his vote, instead of attracting left part of the Liberal vote. That is a major strategic error on his part, but, like Dion, he seems unwilling to take good advice.
Posted by: Shamrock at September 28, 2008 12:39 PMPizza offer off the table; I ate it...;)
Posted by: DaninVan at September 28, 2008 2:05 PMPizza offer off the table; I ate it...;)
Posted by: DaninVan at September 28, 2008 2:06 PM"Never has a government spent so much to destroy a person and his policies as Harper has towards me,"
It may seem like nitpicking to some, but it is not the government that is spending the money he refers to, it is a political party. An important distinction lost on him.
Posted by: Woodporter at September 28, 2008 2:38 PMLooks like DeYawn forgot about the evil Hidden Agenda!
Posted by: DanBC at September 28, 2008 3:04 PMDate and time 28 Sep 2008, 20:40 NDT
Looking at the home page of the Globe and Mail, at the picture of Jack Layton against the Maple Leaf, it is evident that the Blubb is now campaigning for the NDP not the Liberals.
Kursk
who "new" is I don't know, but I'm pretty damn sure he/she is trolling for some one specific!!!!
Is he talking about the same scary Stephen Harper, who has that hidden agenda, and wants to put soldiers - with guns - on our city streets? The same Stephen Harper who is ruining Canada, and wants to convert Canada into the next U.S. state for his good buddy George W. Bush? Is this the same Stephen Harper that Dion declared was the "worst Prime Minister ever?" The same Stephen Harper who wants to force all women back into the kitchen and keep them pregnant?
Oh, I thought so.
Posted by: grok at September 29, 2008 10:57 AM"kennedy is fighting for a seat in High Park, Toronto, against the incumbent, Peggy Nash, NDP. It's an extremely tight race. There are a zillion lawn signs - and it's hard to know who is ahead."
Posted by: ET at September 27, 2008 10:11 PM
FoodBank Kennedy against Piggy Gnash eh?
As Henry Kissinger famously said of the Iran-Iraq war: "It's too bad they can't both lose."