Gregory Smith offers this Churchill comment on that great religion we are now fighting against, from The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248 50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property‹either as a child, a wife, or a concubine‹must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science‹the science against which it had vainly struggled‹the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome."

...somethings never change.

Melanie Phillips:
http://www.unc.edu/depts/diplomat/item/2007/0406/phil/phillips_liberalism.html

"Liberals also think they are superior in intelligence to everyone else. So they don’t understand that the Islamists are actually playing them for suckers, exploiting the intrinsic weakness of a liberal society they correctly assess as decadent: no longer prepared to fight for its values because it no longer even knows what they are."

"What we are living through in the west is nothing short of a repudiation of the Enlightenment, a repudiation of reason; and its substitution by irrationality, obscurantism, bigotry and clerical totalitarianism — all facilitated by our so-called ‘liberal’ society, and all in the name of ‘human rights’. Western liberalism now embraces its Islamist mortal enemies and attacks its American and Israeli allies in the fight to defend civilisation."

"We are giving the Islamists the message that we are theirs for the taking. This is how liberalism may disappear up its own backside."

Works for me.

Sharia Rule Brittania.

Britain is doomed. I can't imagine that with enough speed even if they got lucky and Cameron had a Margaret Thatcher spine, he doesn't, that they could reverse the rot fast enough.

Islam is like cancer cells, it's in the numbers and immune system response whether the host survives. Granted that radical chemotherapies have saved lives, you have to apply it at critical junctures or perish.

The French with 8% Muslims and expanding are goners. For the Brits it's going to take a resolve that they haven't applied since WWII to kill the beast. Their homegrown lefties are their worst enemies. Many understand that, but, what's their plan?

A little Sharia Law today, complete dhimmitude in a few generations. Very, very unwise and stupid.

Penny: "Britain is doomed"

And so shall we be if we aren't careful. Many Brits know they are doomed. The exodus of native Brits is reported to be upwards of 250,000 per year. Extreme socialism, high taxes and Islamization are the main reasonss. That says a lot.

There goes hurdle #1 - Sharia law gets legally binding status on financial and domestic matters between Muslims.
In the distance, hurdle #2 - Sharia law extended to all matters including criminal proceedings between Muslims.
Hurdle #3 - Sharia law extended to punish infidels when the Muslim believer's "rights" are infinged or their feelings hurt.
Final hurdle: One law for all, Sharia law.

Funny how easily the other hurdles will fall after the first has been kicked over.

I can't imagine that the West has the brutality it will take to turn this around, even if there was consensus among the people. We don't seem able to so much as stop the immigration of fundamentalists, which is where we must start. Just for discussing this subject, we define ourselves as knuckle dragging neanderthal rednecks, as far as the MSM goes. Don't be surprised to see comments from these pages used as election fodder for certain political parties.

WTF is with the words "Liberal"and "Liberalism" when talking about the British Labor Party.

There are NO liberals in the Labor party.

They are all leftists,hard leftists,Marxists,Trotskyites,Communists,and Statists..........oh and the Loony Left.

But no Liberals

Mr.g, I take it that the term Liberal used here is the New Wonder-Age Liberal; and not the traditional liberal we so often associate the word with. While the traditional liberal believes in fundamental human rights the WAL believes in collective rights assigned according to what is politically correct on the day in question. Today's Conservatives are in reality the old Traditional Liberal as illustrated by their usual support libertarian values.

We have failed to learn from history. Europe is going down another dark path from which I fear the violence of war may be the only solution. An evil ideology is infecting so-called advanced western democracies in Western Europe, and I see little political will there to halt its progress.

I read my own words and marvel at what should be absurd hyperbole. But, hyperbole it is not.

you do not understand sharia law and when people are not familer with all laws they scare to agree or disagree with it

you have laws in Canda based on your culture , your majority christian vots or change the law as along by vote of people to new pM or so on still as we see conservateive built new party on 2003 it means they allow to keep change it

thos laws is ok with Muslim law too because in islam we agree taht some laws must be get upgraded like age for marriage is set in so many countires is differnet than past we also agree with president or new election and vote for changes in Muslim countries WHY? because some laws msut be get upgraded or some situation come the senator must made deciosn for bestof nation

that laws that today Canda built if Muslim also go to election and has the member in to many topic are agree with Muslim law and not any controversy with it.
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next is Isalm law in marriage which different by law of Islam the word by Sheksh said different and divorce law is diffente woman can marry after 3 month in canda is sepearin is at least goe up to a year

if Muslim like to do some civil law that that law are no problmes with your law you like to go to chuch to register you marriage certificat we go to Muslim registration and copy will send for final govermtn issue

then most of civil only need lawyer and judges and two prties are reivew taht no problems to do

if your relgion is NO Islam then we can not force you to follow Islam divorc or marrige and civil law
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next is law of criminla court taht this one can notagree in West unless review by laws again thought senator and member of parlement taht some Muslim say if you arrrest that person you need to do like death paenlitywhile Canda is not agree with dealth pentaliy then criminla court msut be revie through member of parelement for any voice

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All back to if we say opinon that opion based on our Muslim view law and you based on Jewish or christain laws

or someone not belvie god or gay their opion goes based on thier idology

waht do you expect Muslim say their opion by Muslim view and idea and that is up to parlemetn to agree withsome or reject some

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you said halal food is law of Musim an Kosher is law of Jewish that law is not harm for Christian or Jeiwsh for us we follow

instead if christian force to change our law only for sake of moneyit is consider fraud

when we complain for fraud tehy say we are nothave sharia law in civil court while
law of food say each word must have description

then food inspctors knwo waht is halal is
but food insprecotr purposly are ignonre and let illegla food export to usa for sake ofmoney and profit of export of govement

wehn we compalin we have problem with nonMuslim forc tehir law to our law then judge are ignorne us

you can not force Muslim eat kosehr why not you go and ask Jewish to change theri kosehr law
you even dare to say this word to them their jewish lawyer put stick to your head

when in busiens we made cloth for muslim suddently some cloth sell good now nonMslim like this busines and involve reather than sell Muslim cloth they add so much revealing dress and leg out and products is notseelign because Muslim dress code are different than NonMuslim dress code

the important is when we go to do big buisiens and Muslim food businss become big now nonMulsim force Muslim to teaach them when it ssaw it difficult ornot care to follow tehy do fraud to it when we do ignore their fruad then tehy follow good popel to get htem out to allow only faurd halal food to sell and not right to seen and only all look ok whlle not ok

in fairness you try to say Mulim are boher nonMuslim while in fact Muslim in some law come to enough is enough from discrimiation

if the juge and parmletn see some law is ok
the person can not choose both law to follow must follow one or other

like you can file in human right comisn and civil court complain the same issue that is abuse the sysem of court
if you are Muslim and choose cetain food adn one musim are not obery it we msut bring him orher in ourcourt for punsihment or let jduge in canda are punishme them

in fact we see christian judge are not care if Muslim complain some groupo selling fraud halal food becuase they are not Muslim ndif they know not care or value it therefore for poepel who follow law of Islam food is also is no fair

why? because made real halal foodis constly and if some one do trick bring price below market bycut all steps then if fact they do illegal competion while no Muslim able to producgt taht with that facily with same price unless do fraud

therefore in some area it is necessary to have shari law and already in canda we have lots of it already approve and in place but not exceutin if some one not obey that law to get punsih like some one get divorce by law of Islam if men not pay woman the money he agree to pay her then in Islam law must get punsih for their method to get his wife money

tehrefore you are not familier iwth shair law and not need to be worry if parlemtn and jduge agree and see if safe you do not need to be worry at all

you talk about your law and election nobodyknow what is high what isjob of parlemtn and so many detial and this election is premature and must be prospond for few more month to people know more about it you keep made up time table with not enough information for public to cahge your law from consrvtive to liberal or vice versa without majroity are know what law you put in our head too then in fact yourlaw is law of force of you without us to elect Harper without we know him really too or their party in Canda is unknow for most immigrant to even participate unless if they are lawyer of in need of involve parties

Case just made.

Its a sad story. Islamists will loot this civilization, like every other they have come in contact with, till it crumbles. Pirates of the sand. Its like watching a slow motion 9/11 as they fall into Islamic subjugation.
This once great Empire stopped slavery world wide, brought literacy to a high point with much more world wide. For that they should be remembered, even though they now are becoming the chattel of a foreign god with alien laws.

The Brits are not losing their land - they are giving it up because of an attitude of PC, accomodation and appeasement.

Yesterday the Daily Maily mentioned Sharia Law and now today - to make my point. I seem to remember Ontario wanted to introduce Sharia Law and last Xmas TO City Hall banned Xmas trees and Merry Xmas became "Happy Holidays".

What TRASH:

"College bans 'Christmas' and 'Easter' from calendar for fear of offending ethnic students

By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 12:45 PM on 15th September 2008

Yorkshire Coast College has re-branded Christmas and Easter as 'end of term breaks'

A college has renamed the traditional Christmas and Easter breaks in a bid to avoid offending students from other religions.

The college's new calendar shows that both of the traditional holiday periods have now been re-branded as 'end of term breaks'.

Critics have complained that the decision by Yorkshire Coast College is nothing more than 'political correctness'.

Tory MP Robert Goodwill said: 'I have heard that some people refer to the Christmas period as the Winterval, which is worse. This is absolutely barmy.

'We are a Christian country and, to be honest, religious tolerance in this country is about respecting other people's religious beliefs.'

'We live in a country where there is a mutual respect for religious beliefs.

'School terms are traditionally separated by Christmas and Easter and they should be referred to as such.

'They are petrified that they offend the minority but what they are doing is offending the majority.

'It's political correctness gone mad and I am disappointed that it's from an edict from Ofsted.'

The college, based in Scarborough, North Yorkshire offers a range of courses concentrating on training for 'life skills' such as Engineering, Motor Vehicle Training and IT.

The college insists that the decision is in line with Ofsted guidelines and has been made to 'increase inclusion and diversity'.

It circulates the internal year planner annually to 150 teaching staff and up to 50 other workers to inform them of important dates such as term times and training days.

A spokeswoman for the college said: 'Every school and college, wherever located, is responsible for educating its learners who will live and work in a country which is diverse in terms of cultures, religions or beliefs, ethnicities and social backgrounds.

'All employees at Yorkshire Coast College are encouraged to closely follow guidelines set out by Ofsted for the promotion of equality and diversity.

'We constantly review the ways in which we communicate, to ensure that we do not discriminate, and part of those reviews means that we have stopped referring to the Christmas Break and Easter Break and we now have End of Term Break.'

Give it a break. I don't believe for a second Islamists are going to win anything in the west.

Yes, they agitate and win a little given leftist non-sensibilities and multiculturalism, but this won't continue.

What enemy tells you continually the primitive horrors they are going to invoke, while residing in your country and stealing welfare payments? These people are ridiculously unintelligent, and largely impoverished - despite their radically bold words.

Ever proud, with gigantic egos, supremacist Islamists are currently nipping at the cheese in the trap. Unfortunately, it may end up a bloody mess before its over, all due to experiments like multiculturalism.

But end it will.

McQuinty’s already been angling for Sharia law.
Since a European democracy has allowed it, why wouldn’t we want to be that inclusive as well?
The natives already have their own sentencing circles.
They’ll soon have different laws and courts for all separate groups. Except white men and Conservatives of course.
They’ll still be dealt with the old fashioned way. Through the Human Rights Commissions.

I don't believe in crystal ball gazers, but this Vanga woman has made a few predictions on Europe that is interesting.
http://russianfun.net/interesting-galleries/vanga-predictions-for-this-world/

i have said it in the past i will say it once more. we will have to fight our own (physically) not just with words. there are too many blind, stupid, corrupt, idologies out there for sanity to prevail.

irwin daisy. just wait until the numbers climb to critical mass.

ah, yes, we are to be destroyed be RELIGION

GYM,
Do do mean Islam of course?

Opps,
I meant "You do mean Islam, of course!"