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September 8, 2008

Crowd Suppression

Andrea Shea King, by email;

Just before the 2004 election, my morning drive radio program co-host and I co-hosted a screening of *"Stolen Honor: Wounds that Never Heal"* (the
documentary about the Vietnam POWS who served with John Kerry). We knew there wasn't a TV outlet that dared to broadcast it (because they were either in the tank for or buckling to pressure by the Kerry people), so we took the lead and screened it for our community at a local hotel. We also had POW Kevin McManus and a couple of Swifties there to speak to the crowd.

The turn out exceeded expectations -- we showed the film *four times* that evening. The hotel ballroom was SRO for the first 3 viewings, with folks jamming the lobby waiting for the next viewing.

The local media was there -- Florida Today (a Gannett paper) sent a reporter and a photographer who took pictures of the crowded room.

The following day, Florida Today reported in a bottom of the fold article (local section) that "More than 150 attended". They never ran a photo.

We were stunned by the blatant lie, as were the 1500+ who were there. For several days thereafter, our radio show phone lines were jammed with callers who knew the truth and were fit to be tied at Florida Today.

Just another example of how they twist the truth. I mean, after all, they weren't *really* lying... there was *more than 150* at the event.

My cohost and I made it a point thereafter to bang Florida Today every chance we got. It was war.


The Republicans might take a page from Obama's book and sponsor a free Nascar race prior to the next Sarah Palin appearance...

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On the other hand, perhaps they don't have to.

Posted by Kate at September 8, 2008 12:53 AM
Comments

I think that Obamalamadingdong et al have a bit of an image problem.
I heart America, especially SARAH PALIN!!

Posted by: kelly at September 8, 2008 12:34 AM

She is bigger than the Dems know. I wonder how long it will take them to figure it out. Who is this John McCain dude? Apparently, I knew nothing about him.

Posted by: Kevin at September 8, 2008 1:05 AM

sarge thinks shes bigger than you know good lord now sarge remebers this here mccain dude was making propganda films for the north viets sure they had to torture him a bit but does folding to torture after bein shot down make ya a war hero sarge thinks not

Posted by: sarge at September 8, 2008 3:14 AM

She IS bigger than the dems know and they won't realize how big until Nov. 5th. The day after John McCain and Sarah Palin are elected as President and Vice President of the United States.
Then it MIGHT dawn on them.

Posted by: Snowbunnie at September 8, 2008 3:45 AM

sarge with all due respect, what the hell ya talking about?? hmm? being tortured for 5 years after being shot down. By God, John McCain can't even raise his arms to make a salute anymore. I don't know how you describe hero in your books, but in my books, since I know so few of them, hero works for me. "sure they had to torture him a bit"...tell me your war stories sarge, I'm all ears.

Posted by: kelly at September 8, 2008 3:56 AM

Many years ago I new a fellow with sarge's manner always told us he was the door gunner on a chopper in VietNam . The truth came out that he was actually a draft dodging coward who ran here to Canada rather than serve his country.

Posted by: Rob C at September 8, 2008 5:38 AM

McCain is a hero, and that is the end of it. Not only is he a hero, he is a genius for picking Palin as his running mate. She speaks for the silent majority of American and Canadian females who see nothing wrong with proclaiming their love for their children, and husband. All these years of the loopy left feminist telling females they were stupid for wanting children, that they were an albatross to the good life, and a career not possible, are over. We can have it all girls, cause the cream of the crop is raising to the top. Palin can bake an apple pie, and shoot out a jackasses eye, before the dem gals wake up from their prozac induced sleep.

Posted by: Honey Pot at September 8, 2008 6:12 AM

McCain is a hero, and that is the end of it. Not only is he a hero, he is a genius for picking Palin as his running mate. She speaks for the silent majority of American and Canadian females who see nothing wrong with proclaiming their love for their children, and husband. All these years of the loopy left feminist telling females they were stupid for wanting children, that they were an albatross to the good life, and a career not possible, are over. We can have it all girls, cause the cream of the crop is raising to the top. Palin can bake an apple pie, and shoot out a jackasses eye, before the dem gals wake up from their prozac induced sleep.

Posted by: Honey Pot at September 8, 2008 6:13 AM

McCain is a hero, and that is the end of it. Not only is he a hero, he is a genius for picking Palin as his running mate. She speaks for the silent majority of American and Canadian females who see nothing wrong with proclaiming their love for their children, and husband. All these years of the loopy left feminist telling females they were stupid for wanting children, that they were an albatross to the good life, and a career not possible, are over. We can have it all girls, cause the cream of the crop is raising to the top. Palin can bake an apple pie, and shoot out a jackasses eye, before the dem gals wake up from their prozac induced sleep.

Posted by: Honey Pot at September 8, 2008 6:13 AM

Triple post??? Honey Pot needs more coffee.

btw, I agree with you... on all three posts ;-)

Posted by: Texas Canuck at September 8, 2008 6:56 AM

sarge.I'm with kelly.We await with anticipation your hero stories.Or where you just a sarge for the deserters who ran up north here.You'all can go back now,you hear.

Posted by: Justthinkin at September 8, 2008 7:16 AM

sarge, no respect intended, but I think you ought to continue in that exact vein. I only wish I could buy you a full page ad in the NYT.

Posted by: Tim in Vermont at September 8, 2008 7:34 AM

The funny thing is that we can give posters like sarge advice without worrying that they will take it. They are so wound up in hatred that they can't hear.

Posted by: Tim in Vermont at September 8, 2008 8:24 AM

The video cut off just when Governor Palin was telling the crowd what she had done in Alaska to dis-entrench the entitled, me-first, ol' boys' bastion. Darn.

I'm with kelly and Honey Pot. John McCain is a hero and maybe Sarge can't see it because he hasn't encountered a true hero in his narrow, little, selfish, myopic life. 'Wouldn't know one if s/he was staring him in the face--like now.

I really feel as though Sarah Palin not only speaks for a silent majority of women in the States and Canada--but also for the men who have stood by us. I don't think you have to be a man to speak for men or a woman to speak for women--a man or a woman can speak for our common humanity, which is what both John McCain and Sarah Palin are doing.

They don't have a twisted and perverted view of what men and women should be doing/saying to fit into a post-Christian, post-modern view of life a la the feminist sisterhood, supported by a bunch of wimpy males: "metrosexuals." They have a very healthy sense of the need of a partnership between men and women for the good of their families, their communities, and their country--and they're not ashamed to articulate it.

It's good to see the comraderie of Palin and McCain, how they defer to each other, how they respect each other, how they support each other. I feel a new day dawning for American politics! I hope we catch some of the wave up here in the Deranged Dominion.

Posted by: batb at September 8, 2008 8:29 AM

Andrea -- there must have been about 3500 apparition's that night, eh!

Posted by: Orlin at September 8, 2008 10:03 AM

Make that 1350

Posted by: Orlin at September 8, 2008 10:04 AM

It seems few people know it, but Air Force and Navy aircrews operating over North Vietnam were instructed, if captured and tortured, to hold out for as long as they could, then give the enemy what they asked for - usually some kind of written confession. They were instructed to include certain keywords in these "confessions" which indicated that they were obtained after torture. Same with film. Prisoners found several ways to signal to knowledgeable viewers that the film was obtained under duress.

A very few prisoners never broke and they are held in special esteem by the others. As a Vietnam vet myself, I honor them all.

Too bad this kind of stuff isn't fit for school kids these days.

Jim
US Army, Vietnam, 1967-68

Posted by: Jim at September 8, 2008 10:11 AM

As an add on to this post (photo from Colorado Springs)...The New York Times took this photo off their website when a photo of Obama in Indiana documented that about 800 people came to see him. The absolute contrast between the photos was (to say the least) embarrassing to Obama...so the NYT's cleansed it for him and took down the overwhelming photo you posted above.

Posted by: JR at September 8, 2008 10:34 AM

Huh, if McCain isn't a hero for turning down a free pass from captivity then there are no heroes.

Thank you as well Jim, for your service and for clarifying the duties a soldier captured by the Vietnamese was asked to perform.


Posted by: RCGZ at September 8, 2008 10:46 AM

That picture should be on the front page of every major newspaper, Time, etc. but you know it won't be.

The MSM has never been about the truth.

Posted by: TJ at September 8, 2008 10:49 AM

The completely dishonest and utterly baseless assaults on Kerry's service record was one of the most disgusting episodes in recent US elections. He wasn't alone. Other Democrats, including a veteran who had suffered an amputation, Max Cleland, were given similar treatment.

It's all part of the general degradation of US politics that was greatly accelerated by Karl Rove, a man who no reasonable person is ever going to miss.

Posted by: David at September 8, 2008 11:47 AM

Fox Cable covered this speech in Colorado Springs and all of Palin's talk. The reporter covering the event was tied up in traffic getting there two hours in advance.As well Rasmussen daily tracking poll 3 day roll average has McCain/Palin ahead of Obama - 50 - 48 and Gallup is an 8 point lead after o's 7 points lead last week.

Posted by: MikeW at September 8, 2008 12:06 PM

Sarah is a natural communicator. Reagan in a skirt.

I am glad to see Mrs. McCain has toned back her regal outfit and copious jewelery. Reminds voters of the one with seven homes, that John got blamed for.

Now, both Sarah and John need to get a different stump script. In case they were not aware, their bio's have been heard by those in these crowds at least once, and more likely twice, before these voters get to these events. This is why they are there. They heard Sarah's and John's talking points already.

Time to move on now to what they plan to do about the economy, jobs, Fannie and Freddie talk. Enough about the ebay plane, the chef, the war stories.....or at least not using the exact same words to describe them. Drop the script and pickup a microphone like John does at his towm meetings. Adlib to us.

Posted by: Jim R at September 8, 2008 12:30 PM

"Baseless", David, the Swift Boat vets were never factually refuted. We are still waiting for the military records that Kerry promised publically to release.

The voters in Georgia defeated Max Cleland after he "voted 11 times against a homeland-security bill". He was "on record supporting countless tax increases, and voted with his party's leadership against protecting the Boy Scouts from a campaign to keep them out of public schools and against banning partial-birth abortion".* Pretty stupid positions in a conservative state. He did himself in, David.
*http://www.nationalreview.com/lowry/lowry200402200857.asp

David, you keep coming to a gun fight with a knife. It's not working out for you.

Posted by: penny at September 8, 2008 12:33 PM

Jim R, I think that will come. Its premature to assume everybody has heard the convention speech, and even if they had, there'll be plenty want to hear that stuff in the flesh. They'll roll over in due course but for the next week, they'll likely keep that stump going. The first part of the campaign is selling the sizzle - the steak will come later. Many (most?) voters will have trouble keeping who said what straight if you lay too much out too soon. You want to go to the polls with the right message fresh in voter's minds. You also don't want to tip too much out before the debates either.

Posted by: Skip at September 8, 2008 12:53 PM

That reminds me of a bit from SNL's Weekend Update:

"In other news, the Russian Government has raised the death toll for the Chernobyl accident from six to seven, but that's still nothing compared to the 15 that were killed in the Jewish Holocaust"

Posted by: Edward Teach at September 8, 2008 1:11 PM

"The completely dishonest and utterly baseless assaults on Kerry's service record was one of the most disgusting episodes in recent US elections. He wasn't alone. Other Democrats, including a veteran who had suffered an amputation, Max Cleland, were given similar treatment.

It's all part of the general degradation of US politics that was greatly accelerated by Karl Rove, a man who no reasonable person is ever going to miss."


Kerry could easily solve the problem of the confusion over his war record by having those said records released. But the problem is that Kerry himself can't decide whether he is a war criminal or a hero. It seems to change daily. Did he or didn't he throw his medals away? Did he really spend X-mas in Cambodia? He has spun such tales over the years I don't believe he even knows or remembers what really went on. Kerry even showed Dana Delany his amateur war pron in an attempt to impress her(it didn't work). Trust me, bringing up Kerry as some sort of maligned victim is going to get you nowhere. But then again those of us who are stupid ended up in Iraq so maybe we don't know anything.

Posted by: Fred at September 8, 2008 1:18 PM

Once again the idiot 'Sarge' from the States(?) is using my good handle and proving himself to be an obnoxious fool, (and a sexist, as he demonstrated a couple months back).

Therefore, in order not to be associated with him, I will stop using the nickname I've had since high school, and will henceforth use the rank I held when I retired from the Canadian Forces after 23 years service.

Posted by: Sarge now Major at September 8, 2008 1:41 PM

Don't sell yourself short, you might as well go for "General". Or "Sarge Not The Troll Idiot" for a few days until he disappears again. The guy's failed humor with his third person shtick has never been confused with you.

Posted by: penny at September 8, 2008 2:14 PM

McCain with Sarah Palin are an unbeatable team. They're both inspirational in different ways and they speak to mainstream America.

McCain a war Hero and Sarah Palin proving women can have a family, contribute to society and have a life beyond the kitchen.

Agree with Jim R, they need to change their script.

Time for bread and butter issues, the economy etc.

To be petty, Cindy McCain needs a dresser or image consultant. Bright Green dress and bright red jacket looked like Christmas, Barbie Doll style.
Sorry 'bout that!

Posted by: Liz J at September 8, 2008 4:47 PM

Just watched the whole 30 minutes.

Palin has not only rejuvenated the right, but also McCain !

Fantastic !!

I see the an upcoming astonishing moment in history.

Posted by: RW at September 8, 2008 6:48 PM

Kevin @ 1.05 AM, I suppose you are either up late or in some other counry.

However, you are right; but, also, wrong. The Dems, and libs in general, are truely shot scared, hence all the vicious attacks and inuendos toward her.

Those animals the liberals unleashed against her are not attack dogs; they are running dogs.

Posted by: RW at September 8, 2008 6:53 PM

Dave,
No troll has ever answered this question, but I am going to ask you anyway, knowing that you won't answer it. And BTW, the fact that niether his defenders, nor Kerry ever answered it is the reason the Swift Boaters were successful.

Here goes, maybe you can be the first.

Was John Kerry in Cambodia on Christmas Day, 1968? Who was lying, Kerry or the SWVT?

Posted by: Tim in Vermont at September 8, 2008 8:54 PM

Watching CNN News, they say Hillary, who was campaigning today for Obama, will not go after Palin. She will attack the Republican Ticket only.

Is she playing her 2012 card?

Posted by: Jim R at September 8, 2008 11:12 PM

Thanks Penny, I like that idea!

I don't post often, but I'm sure I'll have things to talk about during both elections.

Posted by: Sarge (Not the troll idiot) at September 9, 2008 1:23 AM

Governor Palin's success is based on this truism: she has put into action the realization that the usual gamut of politicians are no more better than she, and neither smarter nor more qualified. She does have better motives than they and we know it.

Posted by: Wurstman Ever at September 10, 2008 2:16 AM
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