Unfortunately, many of them will want to come to Canada, especially if we let Dion win our election.

Anyone for the Republic of SaskBerta?

If the disgruntled U.S. voters feel they have to leave their country because of McCain/Palin they better not come here. We're stuffed to gills with left wingers as it is...

Fine - just don't bother coming to Canada. We have enough angry, bitter American born leftists who know nothing about our country, culture and government. We don't need anymore of these guys trying to create some socialist republic utopia they dream about everytime they smoke up.

Our Father, who art in heaven, please keep these toked up nutters as far away from Canada as possible. If it is not clear yet, marijuana clearly affects rational thought processes.

This "If ______ (fill in Republican of choice) gets elected we'll leave." meme is getting a bit worn. It'd have more credibility if it were coming from lefties living in Cuba or N Korea saying "Unless ______(fill in Dem of choice) gets elected we'll stay in our socialist paradise." But of course it never does.

If on the other hand Republicans leave the US in the event of an unlikely Obama win they should be welcomed warmly in the Demented Dominion.

I would respectfully suggest that Venezuela might be the perfect country for these Democratic Underground people.
H. Chavez is almost as anti-American as they are, and is well along in ****ing up his country - excuse me,
turning Venezuela into a socialist paradise.

Maybe the disaffected Democrats can move to Cuba, their island and idealogical paradise.

Don't let the door smack your a$$ on the way out.

I suggest France. It would be like mutual punishment.

The leftards would have to suffer the French.

The French would have to suffer not only leftards, but AMERICAN leftards.

It's Lose-Lose-Win (and you know who wins!)

Oh Bullcrap, they said the samething when Gore and Kerry were losing. They are not going anywhere, daggummit, just like that MT Nutcase Alec Baldwin.

Go SaraCuda !!!
,

What ever happened to the good old days when protestors would set themselves on fire...

Well buddy, if you and your wife come to Canada just don't be bringing the a$$hole Alex Baldwin (allwind) with you.

How about an exchange? The liberals can all go to Canada and the Canadians sick of liberalism/Nannyism can come to the United States. I don't see how that's anything but a win-win for all involved.

If Obama wins, America will be screwed.

It's so infantile and predictable. They swoon over these left wing parrots who say all the appropriate sound bites and then expect everyone else to mindlessly give up their votes.

The same blowhards always threaten this when democracy doesn't go thier way, but in typical leftist fashion -it's all talk.

When McCain wins, Ayers can go back to his hobby of blowing stuff up.

Any of these DU (Dolts Unlimited) prospective migrants show up at our doorstep, they need to be treated with the same care and courtesy as if they had "al qaeda" monogrammed on their birkenstocks. Because in the end, that's where it all leads.

"What ever happened to the good old days when protestors would set themselves on fire..."

ROFL

Yes, I can do without A.Baldwin and the rest of those (F)ilm (A)ctors (G)uild 's.

So in other words, the empty heads give us their usual empty threat if the empty suit does not win. Isn't that act getting a bit stale by now?

You owe it to yourselves for the best laugh of the day to click through and read the whole DU moonbat exodus thread. It looks like Canada is off the hook, Australia was mentioned more. The funniest was this entry:

Good plan. Islands are cheap. 90 million for a nice one.

We just need to put in about $720 each. That's a plan and I'm in.

Another little moonbat lamented that the "progressive" anti-gun states won't do because the kind of armaments they'd need couldn't be bought. Another little moonbat nixed Britain as a fascist place with spy cameras. I'm sure he couldn't tell you what party is responsible for trashing the place.

Most of them are young people operating on 6 guinea pig power worth of reason and logic and a small kid's fantasy play. I bet most of them haven't organized a way out of mom and dad's house yet. It's the married idiots or the one poster with three kids that are truly pathetic.

McCain got it right last night. Education is "the civil rights issue of our times". As a nation our kids are being dumbed down at an alarming rate thanks to the public schools. It's working its way into our elections.

Best Comment I've found so far on the blogs:

"Sarah Palin didn't gut the donkey, she field dressed her intended prey after a clean and humane kill."

The "Obama-Nation"(tm) is still smarting from their recent "McCaining".

The elephants go marching on two by two, hurrah, hurrah!

One Elephant Two elephants

One elephant went out to play
upon a spiders web one day,
He had such enormous fun
that he called for another elephant to come.

Two elephants went out to play
upon a spiders web one day,
They had such enormous fun
that they called for another elephant to come.

And there are the elephants, two and two,
Lumbering on as they always do!
The men who lead them look so small
I wonder the elephants mind at all
As they wag their queer
Long trunks, and peer
Through their beady eyes,--folks say they know
No end of things, and I'm sure it's so!
And you never must do a thing that's bad
Or that possibly might make an elephant mad,
For he'll never forgive you, it appears,
And will punish you sure, if it takes him _years!_
So do not stare
But take good care
To mind your manners, and always try
To smile politely as they go by!

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

Frankenstein Battalion
2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)
Knecht Rupprecht Division
Hans Corps
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”

I wanted to post a request on DU that these folks leave the US immediately, please, without waiting until November. But comments by DrD and Ratt are far more telling. As they suggest, leftist poseurs will never, repeat never, leave the US. As American citizens, they are among the luckiest people on the planet, and they know it.

If they ever come to Canada, tell them "that's not here" and direct to Alaska. They may learn thing or two about life .........and hunting.

Here's what you need to know.

Resumes

It seems like Obama is getting more popular in Canada, anyway.
http://www.BarackObamaForPM.com

This is all getting very enjoyable and making my Friday rather fun.

In the last election a few of my Democrat friends in the US swore they would leave the US if Bush got re-elected.

They are all still there...in the end it was all talk...they know where the grass is greener.

I see on Drudge he has a picture of Oprah interviewing Obama above the headline. Too funny and very clever.

I can't help but think that the Dems are digging themselves a hole faster than they can think.

Like Hillary they thought they had it in the bag, that they were the chosen ones, and reality is suddenly beginning to hit. George Soros must be crying over his breakfast cereal.

Experience tells us that those idiots who make idle threats and promises rarely, if ever, follow through.

Those who are serious about something simply do it .... without fanfare.

NRaleighLiberal is probably living the good life in the USA and has absolutely no intentions of ever giving it up. If, however, he is serious and not simply just another left-wing sniveller, North Korea would be the destination of choice.

Tsk tsk

All this hysteria by extreme Democraps, just because Sarah dropped kicked Barrack right between his Roman columns??

:))

Crotchrocket -- Can we make it Saskberta Columbia? Puhleez?

Wow, there's a whole bunch of stupid going on at that Democratic Underground place. I can't call it DU cause that's Ducks Unlimited.

Did anyone notice the backdrops at the two conventions?

DNC - Phony Greek (Styrofoam) Columns
RNC- American Flag

They fit.

If only they would keep their word.
They should try Russia, North-Korea or China then they will still get the government they want.

Did anyone mention two thirds of the polling for this result was complete before Palin's speech and all of it done before McCain's (not that it matters much)?

The bounce is yet to be measured.

The press may have entered a death spiral on the Palin issue.

The more they criticize her the more people get down on the press and support her.

The press cannot suddenly shift and start being kind to her, they would destroy what's left of their readership on the left.

They are in a catch 22 and it looks good on them. They can drown in their own vinegar.

I have a crush on this Govenor Palin...almost as strong as the one I have on Kate...

Loved this line from Jonah Goldberg: "She was put on this earth to do two things: kill caribou and kick butt. She's all out of caribou."

I would buy that t-shirt!

Maybe they should take their brand of progressive socialism to countries which really need it, like Pakistan, Saudia Arabia, Indonesia, Iran, China, etc.

Democratic commenter: "...we are going to have to consider getting out of this country - it is truly, truly, perhaps permanently, f***ed. I am utterly disgusted, as I watch David Brooks say things like 'she attacked, but did it nicely'.

LOL! First, isn't that what Alec Baldwin said before GW Bush won the election? Where's Alec now?
Not in the True North Strong and Free, that's for sure.

Second, oh boo, hoo, hoo, Mr. Entilted Democrat: That nasty ol' David Brooks. Never mind what the attack dogs in the MSM were saying about Mrs. Palin--far crappier stuff than she ever said about the Obamessiah.

My advice to the leftie moonbats: GROW UP, GET REAL, AND GET WITH THE PROGRAM.

By the way, for those interested in serious statistical analysis (ha ha!), on 30 August, I went to two key sites:

At www.googlefight.com, Biden easily won over Palin with 4,180,000 hits to her measly 397,000.

At www.google.com/trends, Biden again easily overwhelmed Palin who, not surprisingly, only beat him out in Alaska.

Today (5 September), I returned to these two prestigious monitoring tools and the results are interesting.

At www.googlefight.com, Palin now has 7,330,000 hits with Biden at 4,190,000.

As for www.google.com/trends, Palin is now streaking ahead of Biden EVERYWHERE.

This concludes my report.

As recalled from my PolSci intro into Canadian Politics, I think it ironic that one reason for Alberta being so conservative in nature is because of the high levels of American emigration to that region in its early days.

Now a second wave is considering a migration north, only this time they'd be of the Dipper persuasion.

Give us your tired, your homeless, your hungry etc. But just make sure you bring your work ethic with you.

Phil:

Albertans welcome anybody who understands they will have an opportunity to work with us to build our province.

To their credit, Saskatchewan is also enjoying an economic boom thanks to throwing off the shackles of socialism in their last provincial election.

B.C.? Not so sure. They seem to have taken a turn for the worse. Just spend a couple of weeks there on holidays and did not like the 3.5 cent/litre green tax. Curiously, I see no improvement in their environment ... it was as beautiful as it always is.

Send that link to Stockwell.

If he can keep those Kansas folks out...

All rifles to the border.

The challenge is "Free Health Care!".

If they say "Yay!"...you get to keep the infection from spreading.

:D :D

Ever wonder why American leftists never leave for Cuba rather than Canada?

Did anyone else notice during the Republican speeches that CNN insisted on showing the teleprompter during Gugliani and Palin's speeches? They even confirmed my suspicions on their deliberateness when Anderson Cooper even mentioned Palin's use of a teleprompter. Funny, no mention or camera angle captured this during the Obama speeches. I guess they're all so gifted and intelligent they don't need one and Republicans are so dumb they do? Heck, I'm surprised Palin can read!!

What a joke. I've come so close to upchucking on a nightly basis.

Are they "Threatening to Move to Canada"? Because that's right out of the Stuff White People Like playbook. Awesome!

If Obama loses, there will be riots in the streets and the left and black groups will start tearing Obama apart. It won't be pretty.

Having said that I can't wait to see the inaugural balls with old-fashioned McCain doing the fox trot.

Hilarious prelude to a pee-your-pants funny meltdown when McCain wins.

The comments put a big smile on my face, especially this one:

"Folks if they steal the election then there will be a civil war in this country.

No one talks about it but that's what will happen!! There are more of us than of them. We will kick their asses!!"

Indeed. But I wonder, apart from the statistical error, if the moonbat remembers that his party is against guns. I reckon they'll have to settle for 'peace' and leftover 'Bush bad' signs to "kick their asses" with.

I suggested that suicide was an option but it got deleted.

"Ever wonder why American leftists never leave for Cuba rather than Canada?"

American leftists, much like their Canadian counterparts, prefer their socialism in small doses with things like big government making decisions on their behalf ... thereby relieving them of the burden of exercising choice and taking responsibility. What they fail to realize is that socialism is much like a cancerous tumor ... it grows and feeds on the life force of the host (the general populace) until the only solution is to remove it entirely.

With any luck, PMSH will win a majority and begin the tumor removing procedure. American lefties will then be left with the options of putting their money where their mouths are and migrating to Cuba or STFU.

Maybe I'm just ignorant, but I just needed some info from you fellow SDA readers. What evidence, or rather where are you basing your feelings that Obama is shaking in his boots? That the left is "melting down", or has no idea how to counter Palin? I watched the RNC as often as I could and only found insults hurled at Obama...there was no substance to them, it was simply a series of rants and disparaging remarks about those who choose to spend their time serving the poor or helping out the eldery?

On top of that, reading about Palin, it turns out she has attended 5 colleges in 6 years...majoring in numerous different areas but finally finishing in....journalism? Isn't that exactly what most here despise? The MSM? It's quite true that she never got deeply entrenched in the MSM, but I do find it a bit ironic.

bar:

As opposed to the substance at the Democrat Convention?

Expect little substance from either side until the presidential debates.

Is Palin currently working in the MSM or are you dredging up the past?

Remember four years ago, all those Hollywood types saying that if President Bush was re-elected, they'd move to Canada?
So what happened - yes, Buch was re-elected and no, nobody moved to Canada.
I guess they changed their minds once they compared our incomes and tax rates to theirs.

True, I do expect more of a platform by the time the debates roll around, I just tend to react to people who only have negative things to say as being the ones who are desperate, or perhaps have no real plan.

The substance of the democratic convention was Obama laying out different issues which he felt needed to be addressed. They weren't comprehensive, nor were they supposed to be; it seemed like the dems were laying out their plan and gave a vague overview of how they would be "different" than the republicans, all wrapped up in feel-good rhetoric, but now I at least understand what they stand for.

As to the past, hasn't SDA been bringing up the fact that Obama spent a few years helping people less fortunate than him, and somehow finding fault in that? Why is Palin off limits to the same inspection?

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YzljZTNiOWJkMDRiMzBjMGQ5MzgyOTI4MzRjYWQwMmU=

A very funny short and to the point Mark Steyn item.

Doug...you are right on,I noticed it as well,they used the distant camera view so often it became obvious what they were trying to do,just close ups for Obama though.

Here is the Question:
It's quite true that she never got deeply entrenched in the MSM, but I do find it a bit ironic.

Posted by: bar_jebus at September 5, 2008 2:58 PM

And here is the answer, apparently official:
Is Palin currently working in the MSM or are you dredging up the past?

Posted by: set you free at September 5, 2008 3:04 PM

I have to say, 'set you free', that it's time for you to be set free. Party discipline has been so constricting for you that I am worried that you may be experiencing a form of intellectual asphyxiation. Not that it's not funny to see the words of someone who is so ON MESSAGE it's ridiculous, but still.

To be serious, is there any way you could simply post some of the instruction EMails you get from HQ, complete with their origin information? That would be a very real contribution to people trying to understand the shady world of internet politics.

This is from a Hot Air article called "The Palin Sisterhood", it says what a lot of people, male and female, are thinking...
"I'm not that into politics," said Delores Field, an Alaska Inupiat from Eagle River, near Anchorage, who does not consider herself a Democrat or a Republican. "I'm just going to vote for Trig Van Palin's mom."

"I could and only found insults hurled at Obama...there was no substance to them"

You mean the fact that Obama's has no substance, or practical experience isn't substance? As for the insults, what did Sarah Palin and her children have to endure leading up to her speech?

I skimmed a few articles concerning Palin on that Democratic Underground website. It is filled with bitter, hateful, prejudiced, and ignorant people. They are positively on fire with fury of Palin.

Good job, Sarah! Hopefully a lot of their heads will explode!

Obama Uber Alles
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=305420655186700

Irwin Daisy:

Newt Gingrich himself admitted that Obama and Biden have just as much experience as McCain and Palin have regarding "executive experience" on the daily show, since that's the buzzword everyone seems to be throwing around. The dem campaign refused to comment about Palin's family situation. Rabbid lefties tried to turn that non-story into something useful and it flopped...big deal, she's in politics, how is family scrunity relevant to the discussion? Hillary endured just as much, and the funniest thing of all was that the Republican's loved to tell her that if she can't take the heat in the "gentlemans club", then she isn't fit for office, since Hillary was playing the gender card...and then who of all people ends up playing the gender card? Palin! Wow!

David.
As Kathy mentioned you are new here, obviously.
Feel free to check the web for the info you are looking for WRT the meltdown on the left.
There's more to the blogosphere than SDA.
Do you need instructions from grok?By e-mail?

david:

Was the question so difficult to answer that you had to resort to a ridiculous personal attack?

Not more popular. More scandalous. I think most people were wondering if she were going to start speaking in tongues, or talking about it being god's will that she become vp.

It's so funny that they're talking about "change" when in fact they've been in power for the past decade. Still... Americans are actually that easy to trick. Much like you guys here it seems.

Say... what do you guys make of the cbc poll that indicates the Conservatives are in the lead? What are those lefties up to? Are they trying to trick youse?!!! What sort of Liberal sponsored plot is this anyway?

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/09/04/poll-results.html

ba-jebus - are you sure about the veracity of that statement from Gingrich? Neither Obama nor Biden have any executive experience. Palin, of course, does.

I don't think that Hillary endured the same kind of vicious and malicious attacks as are being leveled against her by the left - eg, that her fifth child isn't hers; that it's her daughters; that a woman with children has no right to aspire to high office, etc. Palin wasn't playing the gender card; the attacks against her were doing just that.

Equally, I have no idea of the democratic plan, other than repeated statements that 'you'll feel better' when we change things. The only change I can hear from them is higher taxes, bigger govt, redistribution of money to others, no infrastructural devt, and talk, talk, talk.

What people have found fault with in Obama's community work is that it had little to do with people 'less fortunate' than him and a great deal to do with political activism.

As Michele Malkin states, "Obama’s community organizing days involved training grievance-mongers from the far-left ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now). The ACORN mob is infamous for its bully tactics (which they dub “direct actions”); Obama supporters have recounted his role in organizing an ambush on a government planning meeting about a landfill project opposed by Chicago’s minority lobbies."

bar - are you serious, that the left and the Democrats are involved only in "choos[ing]e to spend their time serving the poor or helping out the eldery?" Do you seriously believe that such actions are not merely exclusive to the left and democrats but that that Set has not also busied itself with enrichment, self-advancement, etc, etc?

No, most of us don't despite journalism; we despite unethical and uncritical and biased journalism. There's a difference, you know. Mark Steyn, for example is ethical, critical and unbiased. Same with Victor Davis Hanson, Michelle Malkin, Ed Morrisey.

By the way, most people have done community work at some time, including, gasp, Bush. Hmm. Does that make Obama a version of Bush??

After Pres Bush won his second term it was reported that the increase in patients to pyschiatric offices to deal with democratic nervous breakdowns was huge. Especially in Florida. Guess those offices better clear the decks for more of the same.

Posted by: bar_jebus at September 5, 2008 2:58 PM

Hey Bar,,, I kindof look at it like this. Mr Barack and Company have spent over $1 Billion Dollars in this adventure and they are still tied in the polls. They should be toating a 15 point advantage, eh ?

Personally, us rednecks down heya in Louisi-Yana don't think we've seen ugly yet. Most of the Liberal Commentators on the Alphabet Channels are so close to losing it, (ie, Matthews, Olberman, Soladad and the despicable Wolf.)

What's really interesting is when the liberal feminist presstitutes struggle for words while impugning Palin's character. I mean, comon, what happened to burning bra's together and the sisterhood of the traveling female politicians ?

I thought birds of a feather stuck together ? But, of course, I reckon that's only true if you are migrating out of the country after your candidate loses.

For future reference, when referring to lefties, it is "get with the pogrom" not get with the program.

Those losers at DU also have pretty thin skins when you post there!

Ummmm, how, exactly, do three US senators (one of which only has a passing knowledge of where the Senate is physically located) with ZERO executive experience have more executive experience than someone with almost two years of executive experience?

The two choices for '08:

A Veteran and a Mommy or a Plagiarist and a Commie

Yes they are grok, mine was completely deleted.

I reckon they didn't take my reference to Nazi Feminist Transgendered Vampires meeting once a month to kindly.
,

ET,

Good comments. This is the transcript from Newt and John's conversation:

"Gingrich: Democrats now have to argue that her lack of knowledge and experience for the vice presidency is a real threat in case something happens to McCain. But we’re going to put Obama, who has a similar lack of knowledge and experience in the presidency….You can’t find a single executive decision that either Obama or Biden has made in their entire career.

Stewart: Or that McCain, by that definition.

Gingrich: That’s exactly right."

The comments about Palin were of course quite stupid, but I didn't hear anything from a podium regarding that from the DNC, simply from silly media types. I think Hillary endured a far greater trial than Palin did: Namely that she was challenged on every policy question imaginable whereas other nominee's were given a free ride, especially BHO. If I as a politician only had to face questions about whether I should stay at home to raise my family, I'd run for PM here in Canada ASAP.

"Equally, I have no idea of the democratic plan, other than repeated statements that 'you'll feel better' when we change things."

They do have policy, but the fact that they have any kind of message that gives hope is an indicator to me. Obviously it's simple rhetoric, but he's exhorting the populace rather than fear mongering with them. The last 8 years of republican rule has been terrorist this, terrorist that, every second sentence. When a president gains approval or obtains legislation by appealing to peoples hope for a better future rather than their fears, I think it's a big step forward.

As to the Malkin stuff, if Obama really was just a sh*t-disturber, then that's really sad. I myself don't agree with North American entitlement, but what I have read is that he actually helped start a job training program, a college prep program, and the so-called tenants rights program which I assume is what you're referring to. He did that all after getting his BA, working to help people for 3 years....that's more than just a "little" time trying to help the less fortunate.

Being someone who went to University, I also value education, and the republicans are sorely lacking in this respect. BHO and Biden both have almost a decade of school behind them, including law degree's from prestigous universities, whereas McCain was nearly bottom of his naval class, and Palin went to 5 schools in 6 years just to finish journalism. I don't think that university is the be all and end all, but it diminishes my confidence in their intellectual abilities.

I think Victor D Hanson said it best:

Palinize: to slander and caricature a working-class female public figure for the noble advancement of liberalism.

"it diminishes my confidence in their intellectual abilities."

I have three university degrees: B.A. in English, LL.B (law), and B.Ed. You may now kiss my a$$ and I will expect your vote should I run for election. And thanks for thinking I'm, like, really smart.

wyatt salt:

Well, you've just proved that education and intelligence indeed can be mutually exclusive of each other. Unfortunately I don't share your view that education has absolutely nothing to do with a person's fitness to lead a nation.

"I don't think that Hillary endured the same kind of vicious and malicious attacks"

Only from her own party during the primaries:)

The smartest man I ever knew once told me that any relationship between education and intelligence is purely coincidental.

He was a commercial pilot, an aero-engine mechanic, aero-frame mechanic, master carpenter, electrician, plumber and welder. Those were his hobbies. Professionally he was the Chief Investigator for the NS Police Commission as well as thier Director and Inspector of Security Services. When he retired they hired three university grads to fill his job.

Not bad for someone with a grade 9 education.

And if ever I doubted my dad's words, I had but to look around me during the 6 years I spent in university.

why doesn't Canada have any real conservatives running for election?

Canada needs a Sarah Palin and in the upcoming federal election I'll be writing in her name on the ballot because I'm tired of all the fake Canadian conservatives - people like that jerk Danny Williams

bar-jebus - then, your conclusion that

"Obama and Biden have just as much experience as McCain and Palin have regarding "executive experience" is not sustantiated by the quotes.
The quotes don't include Palin in 'no executive experience'. Gingrich was saying that the Democrats will try to argue that way; but it isn't the truth.

I certainly agree that Obama was given a free ride in the Democratic nomination process. His past ties with Ayers, with Wright, his lack of experience - have all been slithered over by the Democrats.
But, his wife and children weren't attacked, his gender wasn't attacked - as was done to Palin.

I think that you are setting up an invalid argument by saying that Obama's focus on Hope (vs Fear) is admirable. No candidate campaigns on Fear. Obama's focus on Hope is a deliberate strategy that sets him up as the Bringer Of Good Things. Such arrogance, such narcissistic egoism is dangerous. Only demagogues talk that way. It is also unrealistic. Evil exists and if we are told to ignore it (as did Clinton) then, we will be faced with what happened on 9/11.

As for 'the last 8 years of Republican have been terrorist this/that'...perhaps you've been on the moon for these 8 years. Obviously, you never heard or 9/11 and the bombings in London, Madrid, Indonesia. Perhaps you've never heard of the Taliban and their take-over of Afghanistan and their imposition of a tyrannical rule - confining women to the home, no education for women. Perhaps you've never heard of Somalia, never heard of the 'jihad'. That's the only conclusion I can think of for such a remarkable ignorance of reality on your part.

When a President recognizes that Islamic fascism is real, confronts it, and makes one's country safe - that's quite an achievement. Bush has done that - and with his moving democracy into the ME, he is disabling the cause of Islamic fascism.

What I've read of Obama's 'community service' is quite different from what you've read.

As to education - hmm. I've got four university degrees - and so what. I used to tell my students that what really counted, was not what they read in the books and were told by professors - but the learning they did on their own. And you didn't need a university degree to do that.

I assure you, I've met more prejudiced, ignorant, biased and arrogant people from within the fields of 'higher education' than outside that sacred realm. Going to university confirms NOTHING about intellectual capabilities, it tells us NOTHING about your ability to see through the slithering garbage of fraudulent argument, it doesn't enable you to think critically or be unbiased and objective. So, attempting to claim superiority via the laurels of a university education - can't be done.

After all, in our own country, we have Dion, with his PHD, telling us that a blatant tax grab is actually a strategy to reduce 'pollution'; telling us that 'pollution' and 'emissions' are the same; telling us that a reduction from 15% to 13.5% is a 10 per cent reduction (it's 1.5 per cent - doesn't he know any Latin?).

So -sorry, but a university education means twat as a Sign of intelligence and ability to lead a nation.

Palin More Popular Than Obama

Hold on there Kate, ain't that statement a bit-o-racism there? I mean, after all....you should know there girl...

as I watch David Brooks say things like "she attacked, but did it nicely".

I don't think I'll ever tire watching liberal skin being ripped off of bone. I'm hungry now -- Oh yes, it's Friday and I may go out for dinner -- perhaps a small dead (fried) animal is in order!

"Brad at September 5, 2008 6:50 PM

why doesn't Canada have any real conservatives running for election?"

I don't know about that. Ezra has taken a leave from his blog until mid October...........

By the way, most people have done community work at some time, including, gasp, Bush. Hmm. Does that make Obama a version of Bush??

ET -- noooooooo , tell me it is not so!

And as for bush haters, here is a "recycled" bush hater comment...

pu leze

4 teh

chillinz

h8

bush 2

ET: I saw an extremely irritated Gingrich interviewed on the floor at the RNC, in which he clearly spelled out Palin's executive experience vs. Obama's total lack thereof. The interview ended abruptly when he asked the interviewer to name a single executive decision, a single accomplishment of Obama's. The end. Nada. Zero. He.Has.No.Executive.Experience.

It is for this reason that Stanley's Kurtz's yeoman-like research into the Annenberg Challenge is so important. Obama was chairman. Not really executive experience in the sense of Palin's, but at least we might see the results of his chairmanship vis-a-vis educational improvement in Chicago. Which was, nada. Zero. After $100+ million. Zero. And if you look at the kinds of hard-left-bolshevik projects got funded and the kinds that got denied, the zero is not surprising.

ZERO.

If you are wondering what the community organizer jab was about, it was when Obama was asked to compare his experience to Palin's, he said that his experience running his campaign was stronger than her experience as mayor. Well, Palin is a former mayor and Obama is a former community organizer. That is where the humor comes from. Do you get it now? Obama started the whole thing with his ridiculous answer to the question. Hence he is fair game.

I can't put it any simpler for you.

Here is Obama's campaign

"Senator Obama’s spokesman noted upon hearing about Senator John McCain’s selection of Governor Palin: “Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency.” "

She is also a former high school student, why didn't he just say that? Why does he overlook her current job overseeing a budget of 11 billion dollars and 15000 employees? In light of the above, does "former community organizer" still sound so over the line? Or are community organizers, for some reason, more sensitive than small town mayors?

Unfortunately I don't share your view that education has absolutely nothing to do with a person's fitness to lead a nation.

So, bar_jebus, just exactly what specific education would qualify a person, a citizen of the US, for the White House, or better put, what education or lack of it would disqualify one? Is there a degree that would be specific, all inclusive for the job? Common sense, a good character, life experience, a successful trade, a successful small business, a quick mind sans a formal education would be disqualifiers? Is that what you are saying?

America, my friend, unlike the elitist ruled faultering democracies of Europe was never based on the elitist ideal of Platos Republic's philosopher kings where a designated elite were only fit to rule. "Education" is a bogus and rather stupid criteria for leadership.

Many American Presidents weren't A students. Here's an interesting stat, a disproportionate number were left-handed - Truman, Ford, Clinton, Bush I, Reagan. McCain is a lefty. I have my theories on this, but, my point is that an "education" has little meaning. Most of the really interesting and smartest people I've ever met were self-educated. Sarah Palin could have been a plumber or ran a moose meat bruger joint on her way to governor for all that I care, she's smart, goal oriented and has great social and leadership skills. You can't learn that in a classroom. She's not an elitist twit like yourself.

Mexico's lovely this time of year. Or perhaps Venezuala.

Brad 6:50: One name: Diane Ablonczy. Sharp, Palinesque wit. (Geez! new metaphors and adjectives invented in mere days.)

This is a favorite fantasy of American Liberals. Have you ever seen such nonsense? I hear it all the time. They always express the fantasy with an expression of complete determination. I give them this link to Canadian Immigration. Yes, it's always Canada. I ask them, "What's wrong with Mexico?," since so many of them vacation there. Com'on, use a little imagination. It never crosses their minds, and they're nonplussed at having to admit there are actually countries worse than ones that fail to acknowledge your choice of President, even so close as Mexico. I've lived overseas. They know that. Calling their bluff never goes over well, but frankly, I tire of the whining.

One guy I knew at the the time of the last Bush election actually did attempt to emigrate but was rejected. Apparently Canada rejects foreign loons whose health would be a clear burden and without valuable skills. I overtly sympathized but privately congratulated Canada on maintaining a reasoned immigration policy.

Don't you love it when leftards talk about fear mongering, all the while claiming that the US government has a secret army of operatives who can crash planes, blow up skyscrapers, etc, all with complete impunity and without leaving a trace of evidence. I mean, even the Joker doesn't have an army like that, and he is fictional.

You want to see fear mongering? Go to a Michael Moore movie, or watch an Al Gore slide show.

I dropped this in another thread, but it may be even more relevant here'

Re the former mayor of wa-silli's experience [as the hush,hush,Don't tell] Governor:

From the Wall Street Journal: (http://tinyurl.com/6aqt3k)

"...By February 2007 she'd released her requirements for pipeline bidding. They were stricter, and included only a $500 million state incentive. By May a cowed state house—reeling from scandal—passed her legislation.

The producers warned they would not bid, nor would anyone else. Five groups submitted proposals. A few months before the legislature awarded its license to TransCanada this July, Conoco and BP suddenly announced they'd be building their own pipeline with no state inducements whatsoever. They'd suddenly found the money.

Mrs. Palin has meanwhile passed an ethics law. She's tightened up oil oversight. She forced the legislature to rewrite the oil tax law. That new law raised taxes on the industry, for which Mrs. Palin is now taking some knocks, but the political background here is crucial.

The GOP machine has crumbled. Attorney General Renkes resigned. Mr. Ruedrich was fined $12,000. Jim Clark—Mr. Murkowski's lead pipeline negotiator—pleaded guilty to conspiring with an oil firm. At least three legislators have been convicted. Sen. Ted Stevens is under indictment for oil entanglements, while Rep. Don Young is under investigation...."

No executive experience, apparently... I think one of her first duties should be to require an ethics bill for the commercial users of the public airwaves, or goodbye licence...

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c358/MsFalconersCabanaBoy/bonjoviobama.jpg

From the DU link:

"I'm a scientist and lack of funding is already forcing people to leave. If McCain is elected, I won't even both trying to find a position in this country. Even if I find one, I will be unlikely to get the funding to keep it. So why bother?"

Doesn't that pretty much sum it up? If the frackin' government won't hand me a living I'm taking my ball and going home ...

That is some truly bitter vitriol on DU. How come none of them ever follow through on threats to leave?

your awwwww for the day...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wFt-BTi8jI&feature=related

Tin in Vermont: Don't you love it when leftards talk about fear mongering, all the while claiming that the US government has a secret army of operatives who can crash planes, blow up skyscrapers, etc, all with complete impunity and without leaving a trace of evidence.

Tim, you forgot the part where this grand conspiracy is all masterminded by GWB, a dumber than a chimp moron...

Was wondering if and its still a big if McCain wins.....will there be riots. It seem alot of Obama surporters often riot when say; a leader is shot or a gang banger is shot by police or a jury comes down with a verdict they don't like. I wonder if police across the USA aren't starting to plan for the worst????

bar-jebus, I also have three university degrees (two baccalaureate and one masters), and I suspect there are many others here who have university degrees.

I believe you may have confused education with indoctrination. Not the same thing at all although where university is concerned, sometimes the former is nothing but the later. I suspect this could be the case where you're concerned, especially if your field is in a social science.

The only problem with the moonbats threats to leave the USA is that many of them think they should come to Canada eh ?

The few who actually do soon tire of living in an actual socialist state and head back the the safety of the Good Ole....

Not to worry. They are merely going back to Frisco and Berkeley. Good timing, too, cause median prices on real estate are falling for the first time in this decade.

ps, if Obama wins, WE are going to the land of SDA where we'll make friends with Kate and wonder why we waited so long. But we'll stay US citizens so we can be rude to the right people without CHRC crapola. We may even do that (move north) illegally so we can get good deals. Depends.

Advice?

This debate on the merits of an education reminds me of my favourite scene in "Good Will Hunting" where Matt Damon informs some punk graduate student that he just dropped $150,000 on an education he could have had for a $1.50 in late charges at the local library.
Least favourite scene? When the same character promotes Howard Zinn's "People's History of the United States".

If one reads these ratings with a rational eye, it looks like Obama, Palin, and McCain all attracted the same sized audience, 39 million, give or take. The only one lower down is Biden, whose numbers I don't know. What is also unknown (I don't know if it's a known unknown or an unknown unknown, and Sec Rumsfeld isn't here to ask) is the degree of overlap betwen those three audiences, the percentages who watched any pair of speeches or possibly all three. To the degree that the audience simply consists of political sports watchers, there's no particular popularity rating implied.

There's no doubting Gov Palin's popularity in Alaska, however. And a fine source for news on her governorship and, ... um, ... associated stories is the Anchorage Daily News, which has a full section devoted to Gov. Sarah Palin:

http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/

And there's no doubting it's a proud moment for The Last Frontier. Even Trooper Mike Wooten agrees that Palin's VP nomination is "absolutely wonderful for the state of Alaska."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/05/palin.trooper/index.html

Is there some problem with mentioning the Anchorage Daily News and their section on Gov. Sarah Palin?

http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/

The only mistake Obama's mom did was this and the same mistake repeated by his son Obma was:

Obama's mom big mistake was while she was white AMerican married black man and as result the skin colour of Obma turn to be Black too

and also Obama did also married black woman evenif he married white woman he may have chance taht his two daughter become white too

sorry I just kidddig

Now : let review these two canadidat

Palin Vs. Obama

Palin accepted for VP nommenesse and Obama is for presidency then so far Obama is hihger

Obama already won the otehr woman Hillry then most likely can win this new comer woman palin easier since fight Hilley was much harder than Palin so far Obama is winning in his manner

Palin is under so many question now while Obama already pass those questionars therefore weakness of Palin now will cuase nobody bring up weakness of Obma now any more and pay attention to find weakness in her therefore this will cause that Obmaa will win by reduce attention to his today weakness now

Palin has degree in Jounalist and Obma has degree in law from good university in related to politic Obma is wining

Palin able to tlak nicer but mostly becuase she was in MIss USA teach her tactic of never talk when she is tired while Obama some times talk when he is tireds and his manager book him to too many lecture therefore Obma dod ot have good manager while Pain has good manager mostl ikely should be her hudnbad

Palin has 5 kids and who are white but has problems and Obma has two black daughter but normal then from family view Obma will win hers

Palin like war and fight whiel Obmaa like peace Obmaw will win that too

Palin has less experince from smal Eskimoo Hillbili city and Obama was to too many citry from univeristy and up to now and travel to outside of USA as well

Palin do not understand forgin policya nd security and Obma understand this and while Obma taravel already by having Mrs. Price black woman who were or stil is with Mr. Bush forgith already know the black face woamn and can welcom now black men face replace her
again Obma will win this

Plain is christian and Obma has Muslim-Chritian and unknow relgin made him more winner of people from both can trust him more than one relgion paren background for forgin and discrimiantion exist in USA

black colour of Obma and white face of Palin will win Obma to fight racist in USa
and people who like whie look at Obma 's mom can be ok too

Obam work forbigger comunity while Palin from samll community therfroe Obma will win her too

Palin 's pregrant daugher and abortion will caus Obma win again peopel think obma not let her dauhger let become prgent before married

Palin and Obma are in age almost even and tied

Palin help 72 years man Mccain in prison of war and Obma will got advice from 66 years Joe Biden younger than McCain who is Joe is criminal lawyer in age again Obma pikc younger know how to control criminla and war by pick the Joe then again Obma is better in pick

Palin and McCain wife are beauty queen and Obma 's wife are not too attractive will cause less pay attetion to sex of woman here instead pay attention to what he plan to say while if McCain or palin talk peopel talk what dress she wear and her personal life to listen to poltic view and attection go to her to her words therefore for poltic is not good candiate shoud chose woman not get sexualy get attracgtive but also woman in polic shoule sse more serious and more profesioanl nobody call them "hot' if woman in poltica call them 'hot' they must change job to hollywood and leave politc woman with strong voice use for p otlice even Bush's wife nobody tell her 'hot' but can call Palin is not good for htis postition get attrect so many men and not good candicat she travcel to middle east and among arab men or other men or strangers not good for her security too
the winner so far is Obmaa
but still obma and must change Demorac and reduce diccrimiatnionand racit in USA as well who divid the coutnty and people not pay attetnion to balck are all good or white all bad
He Obma must chhose good honest and profestionl peoeplm and welcom white woman too nd give sselif confidence to Muslim and black in USa and help WHite reduce their hate to made coutrny redcue corrution as well and I do not like Obma seat with Holywodd or Opera or Newyork previosu mayer this Newyorkneed real revlotion to change city who divided in two sections.

Obama must reduce abortion and help reduce maried before age and help poor coutnry get balcne and have good tax for poor, mid clas and rich peopel to help US and their neigghor get work together not fighta nd not more war and incrase security and eduation and job for black

who is winner so far : Obama
people who like McCain/palin are people who are racict or dicriminate who love to fight Muslim and all other countires who not know there is otehr option to choose too while fight is only for evil not for all people and blame tehir problems to other is not good too

AMerican are different than Canadain culture.
what Canadian must do ONly think about Canada and best intrest of Canda not USa her we do not car who we only care how to deal with Canada good

this is my analysis may be I am wrong too who know this AMerican are so tricky and lie so much

new discovery about Sarah:
changing 6 collegs in 6 years it proof she is not
smart and she is not stable and fight for every small thing and not patient or care

probably she was dumb too?
how come her parents let her to do this?
Oh god this woamn is full stranger in any shape or angel you can watch her
who find her adn realy we should not trust in anypoltician in United state any more

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Sarah Palin: A flip-flopper before she wasn't; went to 6 colleges in 6 years
BY MICHAEL SAUL
DAILY NEWS POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT

Updated Friday, September 5th 2008, 1:14 PM

Sarah Palin during her college years.
Sampling schools as if they were ice cream flavors, Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin switched colleges six times in six years - sometimes because she just didn't like the weather.

Palin began her college marathon in 1982 after graduating from Wasilla High School in Alaska, her biography, "Sarah," says. She and three friends enrolled at the University of Hawaii in Hilo.

Upon arrival in Hilo, it rained for three weeks straight. She and her friends quickly realized that Hilo is located on the rainy side of the Big Island.

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www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/09/05/2008-09-05_sarah_palin_a_flipflopper_before_she_was.html?ref=nl&nltr_ct=1&nltr_id=Sarah%20Palin:%20A%20flip-flopper%20before%20she%20wasn't

New, please, please, please, pretty please...

get some help with the English language. Maybe even consider taking English lessons. After that, you can work on your logic and social graces too.

TIA.