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September 3, 2008

A Clear and Present Danger

... to the American Left:

Because she jumbles up so many cultural categories, because she is a feminist not in the Yale Gender Studies sense but the How Do I Reload This Thang way, because she is a woman who in style, history, moxie and femininity is exactly like a normal American feminist and not an Abstract Theory feminist; because she wears makeup and heels and eats mooseburgers and is Alaska Tough, as Time magazine put it; because she is conservative, and pro-2nd Amendment and pro-life; and because conservatives can smell this sort of thing -- who is really one of them and who is not -- and will fight to the death for one of their beleaguered own; because of all of this she is a real and present danger to the American left, and to the Obama candidacy.

She could become a transformative political presence.

So they are going to have to kill her, and kill her quick.

And it's going to be brutal. It's already getting there.

Posted by Cjunk at September 3, 2008 5:42 PM
Comments

we have our own moonbats, who form time to tome, have theri polls go terribly wrong

from CTV

"This teen pregnancy tale is shaking up the Republican convention. What do you call it?

Interesting diversion 1236 votes (13 %)

Serious issue 1070 votes (11 %)

None of our business 7186 votes (76 %)

Total Votes: 9492

Past Polls:

Posted by: Fred at September 3, 2008 5:53 PM

The personal attacks on Palin, the really over the top ones confuse me. Yes, they do make me more curious about her. A lot of people will tune in to her speech tonight, many of whom wouldn't have bothered, but now want to see what the fuss is all about.

Count me in that group.

Criticism is normal. Obama has been severely criticized, from his church membership, to his lack of experience, to his leftist worldview. Attacks on his POTUS eligibility, or his brother in Africa, to me are offside, as are attacks surrounding Palin's pregnant teenage daughter.

I have a theory. The leftists hardcore of the Democrats, the Moore faction for lack of a better term intensely dislike white conservative men, because of their widely differing viewpoints.

But, a black, latino, woman is expected to conform to the Moore faction's worldview, so special disdain/hatred is deserved for them, as if they are traitors to the cause.

That's what I'm seeing with the Palin treatment. The problem is, she has an appeal, and the left's furor over her might backfire.

For some reason, they not only hate her, but they, on some irrational level, they fear her. Mark my words, it will be their undoing.

Why does OB talk about her record as a small town mayor, and not about her governorship? Why does he talk about her at all? He should be careful, she is the VP candidate and she has more exectutive/command experience that Obama or Biden put together.

Showing bigotry towards an accomplished woman, just because she doesn't fit the HRC pro choice model, it suicidal, IMO, in the US, where people are actually allowed to have differing views on abortion.

They've convinced themselves they can get her off the ticket. If she is such a lightweight, wouldn't they want her right where she is, instead of, for example, Joe Lieberman?

Those Democrats seem a strange bunch to me.

Posted by: Shamrock at September 3, 2008 6:13 PM

It has been predicted, by CBC no less, that more people will be watching her speech tonight than watched Obama the other night. how is that for backfiring big time WOHOO!!!

Posted by: sor at September 3, 2008 6:16 PM

In Canada, we are never demanding that Dion be removed as leader of opposition because he is such an absolute idiot the Lieberals will never get back into our wallets.

In contrast...the Democrat Lieberals in U.S. are doing everything they can to get rid of their opposition. They are ferociously attacking her and her family.

They say she is a bad choice and a horrible person.

If that was true, why would they not celebrate that McCain chose a beatable VP candidate?

We are celebrating the beatable DION. Yes?

Posted by: Zilla at September 3, 2008 6:17 PM

I need to add one more point for balance. When Clinton had his tryst with Monica Lewinsky, the delight on the angry right was palpable. They hated the man's guts, and would stop at nothing to smear him. It went way beyond differing political beliefs.

IMO, a similar thing is happening WRT Palin, this time on the left.

Just wanted to clarify, irrational hatred and fear of political opponents cuts across ideologies, parties and political cultures.

Having said that, I still don't get the breadth of attacks on Palin, whom they are transforming into a national figure from a previously unknown Alaskan governor. It's a big mistake IMO.

Posted by: Shamrock at September 3, 2008 6:23 PM

Palin is pre-feminist. The type of frontierswoman type that early feminists once eagerly adopted as heroines, like Annie Oakley.

Other proto-feminists like Joan of Arc, Teresa of Avila, etc. were embraced by women looking for role models for generations -- until they got tossed off the list by Professional Feminists for being too Christian, too whatever.

That was when feminism was about strong independent personalities, not weak, group think theorizing.

Now Annie Oakley is dismissed as a gun slinger and Indian hater or lord knows what. You never hear feminists praise Marie Curie anymore -- after all, she won two Nobel Prizes without applying for a single govt grant!!

Lucille Ball and Gertrude Burg? Greedy capitalists, media moguls and mother figures!!! Plus one was Jewish -- boo!

Shirley Muldowney and Amelia Earhardt? Check out those carbon footprints!!

When I was growing up, nascent Second Wave feminism held up all those women as heroines. No more.

It isn't enough to be a strong woman now. You have to be the proper KIND of strong woman (which usually means being weak, i.e. wanting govt to look after you.)

Think back on the battle fought at this blog over defunding special govt programs for women.

It would be apparent to any sane person that Kate (who has been photographed with a buck she shot, and in front of her motorcycle) would have been held up as a heroine by our Professional Feminist opponents -- that is, BEFORE they made the mistake of going to university and having their brains washed.

College makes you stupid. It really is that simple.

Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at September 3, 2008 6:25 PM

From the linked article, the money quote:

The mainstream media, which has been holding endless symposia here on the future of media in the 21st century, is in danger of missing a central fact of that future: If they appear, once again, as they have in the past, to be people not reporting the battle but engaged in the battle, if they allow themselves to be tagged by that old tag, which so tarnished them in the past, they will do more to imperil their own future than the Internet has.

Posted by: shaken at September 3, 2008 6:32 PM

Maybe more people will watch Palin than Obama, but when you consider the number of Democrats looking for fodder that may not be a good thing for the Republicans.

I wonder what the conservative take would be if Obama had picked someone who has fired two chiefs of police for not doing the politically correct thing. In Wassila, she fired the chief because he clamped down on rowdy bars, owned by her contributors. At the state level, ... well, that's still under investigation and how her top former aide is refusing to testify, having previously promised to do so.

Pregnant teens? As Gov, Palin reduced funding to a program that supported teen mothers. Consistent? About as consistent as her original support for the bridge to nowhere that has now become opposition to that project.

Posted by: David at September 3, 2008 6:50 PM

Caps and shouting intentional...

TO ALL THOSE PEOPLE TOUTING THIS ARTICLE, DID YOU MISS THE PART WHERE NONOON CONTRADICTED ITS ESSENCE AND SELF-DESTRUCTED IN FRONT OF A LIVE MIC TODAY?

Posted by: Christoph at September 3, 2008 6:52 PM

Cjunk, if you want something better to post here, try this.

Posted by: Christoph at September 3, 2008 6:55 PM

"College makes you stupid. It really is that simple"

But not going to college leaves you mired in a stagnant, angry at all those people with college degrees who are making so much more of their lives, not to mention money. Degrees facilitate careers, though this does admittedly depend on the kind of degree you have. A Bachelor of Engineering is worth tonnes more than an MA in English. So lets avoid the sweeping generalizations- college does not make you stupid (Feminist studies and English lit and Art history probably do).

I would rather have a degree in todays world, than not. Its international currency.

Posted by: tingo at September 3, 2008 6:57 PM

David, please provide links to back up your allegations. I understand she has denied involvement in these affairs. She is entitled to presumption of innocence, especially against unfounded rumours.

But, by all means, show us your evidence. I think your bridge to nowhere criticism is going nowhere too.

In any event, this would not justify the personal attacks, and your silly comment about birth control.

Posted by: Shamrock at September 3, 2008 7:14 PM

Moosesh*t, David. You need to learn how to use the internet. Palin didn't reduce any funding - she reduced a special appropriation for a planned expansion of Covenant House in Anchorage from 5 mill to 3.9 mill in one particular year. That's called "fiscal balance". NO funds actually used for assistance were touched, and in fact 3.9mil additional was actually provided in the year in question. Now, how did I know that and you didn't? Because, I use the internet, and WaPo doesn't.

Drivebys don't wash here. It only makes you look like more of an idiot.


Now, what I came to post:

First teasers about Palin's speech tonight are up at hotair. This is juicy:

"...guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a ‘community organizer,’ except that you have actual responsibilities. … "

THAT’s GOING TO LEAVE A MARK.

originalpechanga on September 3, 2008 at 7:25 PM


LOL!

Posted by: Skip at September 3, 2008 7:38 PM

The problem with quoting Noonan's WSJ article is that she herself doesn't believe it.

Today this candid, off-camera exchange between Peggy Noonan and former John McCain adviser, Time columnist, and MSNBC contributor Mike Murphy became public:

"Peggy Noonan: Yeah.

Mike Murphy: You know, because I come out of the blue swing state governor world: Engler, Whitman, Tommy Thompson, Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush. I mean, these guys -- this is how you win a Texas race, just run it up. And it's not gonna work. And --

PN: It's over.

MM: Still McCain can give a version of the Lieberman speech to do himself some good.

CT: I also think the Palin pick is insulting to Kay Bailey Hutchinson, too.

PN: Saw Kay this morning.

CT: Yeah, she's never looked comfortable about this --

MM: They're all bummed out.

CT: Yeah, I mean is she really the most qualified woman they could have turned to?

PN: The most qualified? No! I think they went for this -- excuse me-- political bullshit about narratives --

CT: Yeah they went to a narrative.

MM: I totally agree.

PN: Every time the Republicans do that, because that's not where they live and it's not what they're good at, they blow it.

MM: You know what's really the worst thing about it? The greatness of McCain is no cynicism, and this is cynical.

CT: This is cynical, and as you called it, gimmicky.

MM: Yeah."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/03/peggy-noonan-mike-murphy_n_123647.html

Even the truest and most dyed-in-the-wool Republicans are privately admitting that the Sarah Palin VP nomination is a disaster. That tells you something.

Posted by: Meerschaum at September 3, 2008 7:43 PM

Covenant House? The joint built by a Catholic priest who turned out to be a perv?

You know the lefties are desperate when they're calling for REfunding a faith based initiative with THAT pedigree.

Spare me.

Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at September 3, 2008 7:46 PM

David,
Re "reduced funding to a program that supported teen mothers"

2007: Covenant House get $1.3 million from the Alaska Government. They request $10 million for 2009. Legislature approves $5 million. Gov. Palin reduces that to $3.9 million.

"Stupid bitch slashed that funding by -200%. Send her back to the kitchen where she belongs."

Moron...

Posted by: Jared at September 3, 2008 7:46 PM

" I still don't get the breadth of attacks on Palin"

There is no logic to it. It's emotion. Brought to you by people who think that if they yell long and hard enough their cherished beliefs will prevail. If any of Palin's critics took the time to think this through, they would shut up. Those who don't and continue to behave stupidly means they are broadly incapable of rational thought, or to put it another way..... drum roll...............DUMB.

Posted by: RCGZ at September 3, 2008 7:51 PM

Ann Coulter (just to really send the lefty trolls off to retch in the corner):

"...The bien-pensant criticized Palin, saying it's irresponsible for a woman with five children to run for vice president. Liberals' new talking point: Sarah Palin: Only five abortions away from the presidency.

They claimed her newborn wasn't her child, but the child of her 17-year-old daughter. That turned out to be a lie.

Then they attacked her daughter, who actually is pregnant now, for being unmarried. When liberals start acting like they're opposed to pre-marital sex and mothers having careers, you know McCain's vice presidential choice has knocked them back on their heels.

But at least liberal reporters had finally found someone their own size to pick on: a 17-year-old girl..."

Posted by: Skip at September 3, 2008 7:52 PM

Meerschaum: There is a huge difference between the Washington beltway and the rest of the world. These were the same folks that were unhappy with McCain when he pulled off his incredible come from behind win. I'm betting on Palin and I believe we will see her rise to the occasion in a couple of hours.

Posted by: Jim O'Brien at September 3, 2008 7:54 PM

"Even the truest and most dyed-in-the-wool Republicans are privately admitting that the Sarah Palin VP nomination is a disaster. That tells you something."

In yer dreams...

Posted by: Skip at September 3, 2008 7:55 PM

Because she jumbles up so many cultural categories, because she is a feminist not in the Yale Gender Studies sense...

I'm kinda a bottom line type of guy and what I see is that Palin scares the bajeebes out of the left with their twisted ideology and world view. There will be a huge fight to discredit her -- and that's the bottom line folks, eh...

Posted by: Orlin at September 3, 2008 7:57 PM

All the histrionics, shouting and wringing of hands, I think we may be witnessing the labour pains of the birth of America's first female president... *wink*

Posted by: Skip at September 3, 2008 7:58 PM

Anyone know what time she's on specifically ?
- dont want to watch the whole convention...

Ordinarily I wouldn't bother, but because of all the hullabaloo I want to see her speech. I wish her the best.

I asked a consultant who came by our office who lived in the states for a long time (went to Yale or Harvard...) what he thought, gave me as I expected, the standard Democrat line putting her down.

I just smiled and said I thought she was a great pick. He looked befuddled as I thought to myself the democrats just have no idea what they're in for...

Posted by: Agent Smith at September 3, 2008 8:02 PM

How about John Ibbitson in the Mop and Pail calling the Republican convention a train wreck? Au contraire, to mix metaphors I think they dodged a bullet since Bush didn't have to give an in-person speech in prime time.

Six articles about Palin in the paper and an editorial.

I'm not crazy about evangelicals having so much influence, but the libs coverage of this woman almost borders on hate crimes. I suppose her greatest crime of all is sending her son to fight in Iraq.

Posted by: Nicola Timmerman at September 3, 2008 8:07 PM

When Demicrats react like this you know there is a hole in the dam leaking votes. Their votes. They were content to use the pregnant daughter as a wedge issue to scare away conservative christian voters from McCain. But now things are murky.

Now they are starting to fear that Sarah will fit the bill just like Harry Truman, a popular go getter who succeeds a sickly president and leaves the in crowd eating dust.

Posted by: Sgt Lejaune at September 3, 2008 8:07 PM

darn republicans, they done stole ma spotlight . -B.Hussein Obama

Posted by: cal2 at September 3, 2008 8:12 PM

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/09/excerpts_of_sarah_palins_remar.php

Posted by: dizzy at September 3, 2008 8:12 PM

The more the left continues to spread its frantic anti-female filth directed at This Lady. It will just get worse for them. The true face of the left has shown itself. Hard to do a make over now after the insanity since the pick. I mean who would want these shrieking liars inventing these misogynistic views of her & other Ladies like her to run anything. Not being a Women I have no idea how this is playing out to them. Seems to me the most vitriolic attacks have come from that sector of society. Me, I think she’s fine. There is some real promise for some good treaty’s we desperately need. Like water & continental energy usage plan. The rest is left inspired hysterics. Let the busybodies show what they are made of, its to alls benefit just how unreasonable, if not treacherous they are.

I think one reporter had it right.2008 was the year Journalism died. The bias is a vortex no one can miss.

Posted by: Revnant Dream at September 3, 2008 8:13 PM

Live streaming of the speeches is happening here:
http://tinyurl.com/6bcm65

for those who don't get it on TV.

Posted by: Skip at September 3, 2008 8:24 PM

Meerschaum @ 7:43 Pegy Noonan has just explained her remarks and it's not at all the way the Huffinton Post would have you believe. Not at all.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122044753790594947.html?mod=rss_opinion_main

Posted by: kelly at September 3, 2008 8:49 PM

Noonan comes back to post what was said, and meant....to clarify internet rumors:

http://online.wsj.com/article/declarations.html

"Well, I just got mugged by the nature of modern media, and I wish it weren't my fault, but it is. Readers deserve an explanation,......

Wednesday afternoon, in a live MSNBC television panel hosted by NBC's political analyst Chuck Todd, and along with Republican strategist Mike Murphy, we discussed Sarah Palin's speech this evening to the Republican National Convention. I said she has to tell us in her speech who she is, what she believes, and why she's here. We spoke of Republican charges that the media has been unfair to Mrs. Palin, and I defended the view that while the media should investigate every quote and vote she's made, and look deeply into her career, it has been unjust in its treatment of her family circumstances, and deserved criticism for this.

When the segment was over and MSNBC was in commercial, Todd, Murphy and I continued our conversation, talking about the Palin choice overall. We were speaking informally, with some passion -- and into live mics. An audio tape of that conversation was sent, how or by whom I don't know, onto the internet. And within three hours I was receiving it from friends far and wide, asking me why I thought the McCain campaign is "over", as it says in the transcript of the conversation. Here I must plead some confusion. In our off-air conversation, I got on the subject of the leaders of the Republican party assuming, now, that whatever the base of the Republican party thinks is what America thinks. I made the case that this is no longer true, that party leaders seem to me stuck in the assumptions of 1988 and 1994, the assumptions that reigned when they were young and coming up. "The first lesson they learned is the one they remember," I said to Todd -- and I'm pretty certain that is a direct quote. But, I argued, that's over, those assumptions are yesterday, the party can no longer assume that its base is utterly in line with the thinking of the American people. And when I said, "It's over!" -- and I said it more than once -- that is what I was referring to. I am pretty certain that is exactly what Todd and Murphy understood I was referring to. In the truncated version of the conversation, on the Web, it appears I am saying the McCain campaign is over. I did not say it, and do not think it. In fact, at an on-the-record press symposium on the campaign on Monday, when all of those on the panel were pressed to predict who would win, I said that I didn't know, but that we just might find "This IS a country for old men." That is, McCain may well win. I do not think the campaign is over, I do not think this is settled, and did not suggest, back to the Todd-Murphy conversation, that "It's over."

Posted by: BB at September 3, 2008 8:55 PM

Shaidle

So Covenant House does no good work and shouldn't be funded, huh? Deep thinking there.

Palin cut proposed funding to a place that helps care for teenage unwed mothers and their babies. She has a radical antichoice position - that the McCain campaign has decided is useful for them - she's stated 'no abortion' even in the cae of rape.

But the young innocent lives resulting from her position? She doesn't care so much. Like most of the Right, abortion works as a political issue for her. Their concern for young innocent life obviously isn't real since they're on their own once out of the womb. Life ain't so sacred then!

Dig Noonan's private comments as opposed to her public column: McCain's choice of Palin is 'political bullshit' that effectively ends his campaign. Haw!

Posted by: real at September 3, 2008 8:56 PM

I quite frankly look at Sarah Palin as a WOMAN, a real WOMAN. I also look at her as a bright and articulate woman and mother. Everyone is talking about her abilities, well as far as I am concerned if she can do what she has done to date and run a family with 4 kids she is a hell of a lot more experienced than either of the two entitlement leeches she now faces. It obliviously remains to be seen how she handles the challenge in front of her now, but I'll bet on Sarah.

Posted by: Western Canadian at September 3, 2008 9:04 PM

Skip - what really rattles the Left is that Palin's daughter didn't have the discreet abortion on demand. That's the affront. It applies to mom and her Down's Syndrome non-abortion survivor too. And, for pure irony, that's the same Left that extended all manner of protection to welfare slobs a decade ago having huge broods to milk the welfare system. Suggesting abortion to them or to the Mexican hordes that are overruning our borders and planting themselves here with anchor babies would have been/is racist and attacked immediately.

The sheer depth of lefty hypocrisy is astounding. Their morality is based on an ethics of political convenience only so it's always negotiable.

Posted by: penny at September 3, 2008 9:04 PM

Also a good feed here,
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN_wm.aspx
but firefox needs the media player 11 plug-in

From the article - Kellyanne Conway..."We are a nation of Wasillas, not Chicagos." The 'bubbleheads' lose sight of this but apparently McCain did not. His stomping of the obamabounce caused a massive shift in the election. I think we are watching the first female President take the national stage. And it is making the left crazy that it's a Republican Lady.

The CBC and specifically Neil Mcdonald need to answer for reporting the vile ranting from the daily kos as if it were news. I watched their national broadcasts last few nights and there is no excuse for that man and my TAXPAYER SUPPORTED network to repeat those foul attacks on Mrs. Palin and her family.

Judging by the flak, I would have to say John McCain was right on the target.

Posted by: Dana at September 3, 2008 9:06 PM

Hey head over to Cjunk, great liveleak video with Newt.

Posted by: GaryinWpg at September 3, 2008 9:07 PM

A snippet from Governor Palin's speech tonight...
"In politics, there are some candidates who use change to promote their careers. And then there are those like John McCain, who use their careers to promote change." Hmmm can't imagine who she's talking about there but it sounds really really good.

Posted by: kelly at September 3, 2008 9:10 PM

Real, go away - you're too slow a learner for this site (or for the real world it seems). (That btw, was an ad hominem attack. Its latin, means "toward the man".

Posted by: Skip at September 3, 2008 9:14 PM

http://wthrockmorton.com/2008/09/03/sarah-palin-did-not-slash-funds-for-teen-mothers/

"Contrary to a report from the Washington Post, Alaska Governor, Sarah Palin, did not slash funding for a program for teen mothers....."

"In Alaska, the governor is allowed to reduce spending allocations in the service of sound management and fiscal accountability. To prove his contention that Palin slashed funds for teen mothers, Kane produced the Alaska 2008 budget with Sarah Palin’s line by line adjustments. It is true that lawmakers allocated 5 million to Covenant House Alaska and that Mrs. Palin cut that allocation to 3.9 million dollars. However, what is misleading about the Post headline is that the allocation of 3.9 million is three times more than Covenant House Alaska received from government grants in 2007. According to records on the Covenant House Alaska website, the organization received just over 1.3 million dollars from grants in 2007 and nearly 1.2 million in 2006. Even with the reductions, Governor Palin signed a budget which provided three times more funds than the organization received in 2007."

Posted by: BB at September 3, 2008 9:18 PM

I think real/haye/new is stupid, as in unintelligent. Not that there's anything wrong with that per se, but the more intellectually inclined here find it...well...stupid and a waste of time. Maybe he/she/it would find it more stimulating playing in some other sandbox. I'm just sayin'

Posted by: kelly at September 3, 2008 9:23 PM

"It's over!"

Which is funnier -- Noonan's unguarded slagging of the Palin pick as an insult to Kay Bailey Hutchinson, or her Chewbacca Defense that she was, like, totally thinking about one thing and accidentally said something else?

Posted by: Figulus Pilosus at September 3, 2008 9:23 PM

Don't waste your time BB, Real has already had that explained to him(?)three times already. A terminally thick troll.

Posted by: Skip at September 3, 2008 9:24 PM

David Warren has an interesting opinion on this very issue in a new essay.

http://davidwarrenonline.com/

Posted by: Revnant Dream at September 3, 2008 9:25 PM

real,
Cut proposed funding??? What the hell kind of standard is that? If an agency asks for a 800% increase in funding and the politician making the final decision gives them a 200% increase that counts as cutting???!!!

Try actually reading Peggy Noonan's comments on the leaked live mic incident. She didn't say that this effectively kills McCain's campaign. Not even close. She said she hates it when the Republicans try to run a campaign in a particular way. Fair enough.

Your suggestion that people on the right stop caring about people after they're born is a tired and slanderous trope and beneath contempt. What evidence do you have beyond that fact that they don't have faith in the particular set of government programs so beloved of the left?

Posted by: Jared at September 3, 2008 9:27 PM

Nice of the neighborhood misogynist to show up for some light evening trolling.

Anyway, the left is terrified of this woman. When your only defense is spewing out vitriol which is at complete odds with your own screaming position over the last 18 months, it's time to call a doctor, not a 'community organizer'. They've lost their minds (if that is possible).

Posted by: Sounder at September 3, 2008 9:30 PM

You know what is strange, and maybe I'm wrong, but has anyone heard of Hillary Clinton and her reaction to Sarah Palin? Has she said a word?

Has she said anything about the MSM vicious attacks against Palin?

Has she made any comment at all?

Posted by: ET at September 3, 2008 9:31 PM

Real, please lay off the 'political bullshit' as you call it. Goveernor Palin approved an increase in funding of the halfway house. It was not as much as they had requested, but it was a considerable increase over what they had been previously allocated. You did write 'cut proposed spending' so you can't be called a lier, but the whole point of the post was to leave a false idea, wasn't it?

Posted by: RicardoVerde at September 3, 2008 9:32 PM

Clean up at 8.17, please - "new" is spewing. THIS "they talk about her because she and her family are BIT**ch like most of normal Canadian and US woamn are BIT***" is beyond the bounds of public discourse.

Posted by: Tenebris at September 3, 2008 9:33 PM

spell check, pardon.

Posted by: RicardoVerde at September 3, 2008 9:36 PM

This is a brilliant move by the Republicans.

Create a distraction and hope all the attention shifts away from the real issue's.

What else would expect from eight awful years of republican rule?

Posted by: pepster at September 3, 2008 9:39 PM

I am working in an office where CNN plays in the lunchroom. Wolf was on today and asked how people could accept Palin's strong anti-gay views. As governor, Palin VETOED a bill that would have denied benefits to same sex partners.

WTF? It is obvious that he gets his talking points straight from the Obama campaign, just like the New York Times saying that she belonged to a separatist party and McCain hadn't vetted her, without checking the actual facts, just going on the whispers from the Obama campaign.

It is just so F-in disgusting, I cant tell you how mad this makes me.

Posted by: Tim in Vermont at September 3, 2008 9:39 PM

ET - she hasn't commented publicly, although she apparently didn't like the acknowledgement Palin gave her in her introductory speech. The PUMAs seem to be somewhat split.

Posted by: Skip at September 3, 2008 9:39 PM

"Even the truest and most dyed-in-the-wool Republicans are privately admitting that the Sarah Palin VP nomination is a disaster. That tells you something"

Not really, she is our Obama in terms of excitement. OK, we don't believe she is a "light bender" who can create new realitys, those "little known Sara Palin facts" last night were intended as humor, but seriously, she brings excitement I haven't seen since 2000.

Posted by: Tim in Vermont at September 3, 2008 9:45 PM

What a joke...

Here I am in Toronto and no stations (American included) are carrying the Republican Convention except PBS across the border - but delayed an hour. It was on yesterday on a bunch, CBC too, as was the story when the Democrats convention was on. Deliberate? - limit her exposure?

Posted by: Agent Smith at September 3, 2008 9:45 PM

Smith, in fairness it might be because of scheduling issues because of Gustav. Air time waits for no man... If you have decent internet connection you can get it on the links earlier on. Palin will be on in about 10 minutes (or less) - intro speaker is on now.

Posted by: Skip at September 3, 2008 9:50 PM

Pepster sez 'This is a brilliant move by the Republicans.
Create a distraction and hope all the attention shifts away from the real issue's.
What else would expect from eight awful years of republican rule?'

Hey Pupster...would you please give us your brilliant and insightful analysis of the last eight awful years of the US Congress? And please, deliver it in 40 words or less.


Posted by: billygoat at September 3, 2008 9:55 PM

Ricardoverde

No, unlike may posters here, I don't write in order to leave false ideas or impressions.

The legislature was prepared to grant a sum of money to the shelter. She sliced it back. This tells us that looking after young babies and their mothers is not a priority for her.

Being anti-choice is a huge priority for her. Why? Well her actions show she's not that concerned about the innocent young lives resulting from her conviction. She's concerned about enforcing her views on young women, butnot with helping them in the most difficult job anyone can do.

No: her anti-choice stance is because it works for her politically.

That's it.

Posted by: real at September 3, 2008 9:59 PM

ET

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13129.html

Posted by: xiat at September 3, 2008 9:59 PM

Er, "new" -- could you please frame your daft hateful inanities in the form of coherent sentences? If you're going to say nothing, you could at least say it intelligibly. Thank you.

Posted by: Figulus Pilosus at September 3, 2008 10:00 PM

Shamrock noted, at 6:23 "When Clinton had his tryst with Monica Lewinsky, the delight on the angry right was palpable. They hated the man's guts, and would stop at nothing to smear him. It went way beyond differing political beliefs."

Um, no - they were incensed at what he did. Insisting he be held to account for his activities was not a smear.

Posted by: Tenebris at September 3, 2008 10:01 PM

For the first time in quite awhile, I didn't read through all the comments before posting.

Peggy Noonan's article was amazing in its candour.  It would be nice if more of our own chattering classes — if only for a moment before the blinders slammed down again — recognized their own role in the process and tried to be humble about it.

Nahhhh.  Never happen...  :-/

Posted by: Garth Wood at September 3, 2008 10:01 PM

xiat - thanks. But that's not Hillary Clinton. I'm again wondering - has Hillary Clinton herself said a word about Palin and/or about the malicious treatment of the MSM against Palin? Not even Hillary herself ever received such malicious attacks.

Posted by: ET at September 3, 2008 10:04 PM

oh, crap. Now new or whatever he calls himself now is a political science major... err I mean expert.
please give the rest of us a break and STFU.

Posted by: Texas Canuck at September 3, 2008 10:08 PM

Divert attention away from the REAL issues pepster?

What, pray tell might they be? I have yet to see anyone that supports The One be able to even give me a general overview of his platform.

Could that be because his platform is one catch word?


You folks really are terrified of this hockey mom ain't ya?

Posted by: AtlanticJim at September 3, 2008 10:11 PM

So let's see. Zero foreign policy experience, 18 months of full-time governmental experience, running deficits, raising taxes, pork-barreling at the earmarking trough (yeah it's a mixed metaphor, so shoot me), director of the "Ted Stevens Excellence in Public Service, Inc." 527, flirting with (and husband being a member of) a sessionist party, firing top cops (not once but twice) for resisting cronyism, teaching creationism, banning books, threatening to fire librarians who resisted banning said books, fibbing in her first major speech (she initially supported the infamous "Bridge to Nowhere"), lauging publicly about a political opponent's cancer, husband's DUI, teen daughter's pregnancy, claiming the War in Iraq is a "task from God", and disclosing the date of deployment of her son to Iraq (remember that old "loose lips sink ships" expression - her statement violated Operational Security (OPSEC)).

Could this get any worse?

Well, sadly, yes. Yes it could.

The coup de grace has now been delivered by the same fine folks who (to their credit) ended the political career of John Edwards . . .

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/03/politics/fromtheroad/entry4413030.shtml

You know, one hallmark of a rational conservative is the ability to be self-critical and see past your fellow conservative's ideology and partisanship when it's blinding them to an ugly truth.

Truths like:

Agnew was a crook.
Nixon was a crook.
Quayle was a moron.
Dubya was a moron and a warmonger.
Cheney was just a warmonger.

And the truth about Sarah Palin?

Well, I believe she will go down as the worst running mate to be appointed since Gaius Julius Caesar Augustus Germanicus named Incitatus as a consul of Rome.

Posted by: Meerschaum at September 3, 2008 10:23 PM

Shamrock @6:13

They've [the democrats] convinced themselves they can get her off the ticket. If she is such a lightweight, wouldn't they want her right where she is, instead of, for example, Joe Lieberman?

Those Democrats seem a strange bunch to me.

You have it in a nutshell; it is a totally irrational position. Fact is, their response shows that her Veepness, apart from hitting a deep, apoplectic nerve, axctually threatens them. Hence the bile and sputum.

Posted by: RW at September 3, 2008 10:23 PM

"I'll chase her round the Outer Nebula and round Antares Maelstrom and round Perdition's Flames before I give her up"

-- Khan, MSNBC

Posted by: Khan Noonien Singh at September 3, 2008 10:25 PM

Go live to Hot Air http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/03/rncc-day-3-the-ustream-feed-and-chat-room-plus-alert-the-media/

Posted by: RW at September 3, 2008 10:29 PM

Great applause. several inutes.

Posted by: RW at September 3, 2008 10:30 PM

F**k me, she is wearing Jackie Kennedy clothes.


Posted by: RCGZ at September 3, 2008 10:30 PM

She hasn'
t even started to speak yet.

Obama didn't get this.

Is that Putin in the audienc? No just some old look-alike.

Posted by: RW at September 3, 2008 10:33 PM

Praise of men in uniform ... chants of Palin!

gets all familly standing during these minutes.

The dude holding trig. Getting a bit sentimental here.

Bow addressing familly issues (Dude Tod holding trig - special needs for Trig (expecting upcoming repudiation of democrat slurs of Bristol).

Mention of working class stuff about union member hunter, etc. This is all the stuff that make the dems puke. Nothjing unusual yet; we saw this last week. Shot of Putin-like guy again.

Now we see the abbe's parents.

She is beginning to relax and, though sticking to a script, is becoming more seductive and personable.

Still introducing folks.


Posted by: RW at September 3, 2008 10:41 PM

She's getting more relaxed. Better.

Talking of her past and rise to prominence.

Did the "small town mayor - community organiser with responsibility" line: Note to organizers: Don't pre-release speeches.

Posted by: RW at September 3, 2008 10:44 PM

Difference between a pit bull and a Hockey mom....lipstick.

Sarah Palin

LOL, she is a hoot.

Posted by: Glenn at September 3, 2008 10:44 PM

Difference between a pit bull and a Hockey mom....lipstick.

Sarah Palin

LOL, she is a hoot.

Posted by: Glenn at September 3, 2008 10:45 PM

She's getting more relaxed. Better.

Talking of her past and rise to prominence.

Did the "small town mayor - community organiser with responsibility" line: Note to organizers: Don't pre-release speeches.

Posted by: RW at September 3, 2008 10:45 PM

She played the audience perfectly. "going to Washington to serve .. not seek approval". Chanting!

When thsi babe gets down, relaxes, she plays it better than the Ubermessiah.

Except that she has record, sincerity and balls.

She is now talking a prepared speech as if informally to a group of friends. Skill. Otratorical skill. Ubermessiah doesn't have this capability, just a barritone voice.

Posted by: RW at September 3, 2008 10:48 PM

Talking of her gubernatorial experience - in hushed and confidential tones. People are quiet and listening.

How does she bring a crescendo to this intimate performance?

Posted by: RW at September 3, 2008 10:51 PM

Hurrahs for Canadian pipeline (I like that).

Energy independance by using American energy.

A big rah is building here, I suspect. She talking serious sh*t here.

Drill now chants! This is the Repubs best argument. She strikes. We're going to do energy!

This is the fundamental US election issue, I believe. It will be in Canada too, but less so.

Posted by: RW at September 3, 2008 10:55 PM

Attacks Ubermessiah.

Two memoires but no laws.

Never talking of victory.

Thjinking this babe should never, ever be given a script. She is maxima sans script.

Digging into ubermessiah on foreign policy naivety. Loud cheers.

Posted by: RW at September 3, 2008 10:58 PM

This just in...there are unconfirmed rumours that Sarah Palin parked her car crooked. Numbers LSM and bloggers are on it...

Posted by: James Goneaux at September 3, 2008 10:58 PM

Now attacks Ubermessiah for tax increases - it'sd the economy stupid. Not dreams. the economy. Use of personal anecdote. )Note: The Ubermessiah never uses this oratorical trick as he doesn't know people in nered , broke).

Call for change brings cheers. (Ubermessiah wants "spare a dime" kind of change).

Posted by: RW at September 3, 2008 11:01 PM

The executive experience she "doesn't have" is flowing out in spades.... :)

Posted by: Skip at September 3, 2008 11:02 PM

S.Palin IS NOT A PREGENAT TEEN. NO HYPOCRACY HERE YOU SELF LOATHING A'HOLES

Bill Clinton was busted for LYING about his affair UNDER OATH, that is the criticism. A REAL MAN would have put his FAMILY FIRST and taken responsibility for his actions instead of PASSING THE BUCK which is quite UNPRESIDENTIAL.

Hillary Clinton is a poor role model for women! I would never council my two daughters to put up with that CRAP for career advancement. THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS THAN CAREER, try having principals and setting a good example for your children.

new

"they talk about her because she and her family are BIT**ch like most of normal Canadian and US woamn are BIT*** that is their culture to"

Ha! I couldn't read most of your post as I've mentioned before; but, you NAILED that one.

"A bitch is a b**ch (b**ch)
So if I'm poor or rich (word up)
I talk in the exact same pitch
Now the title b**ch don't apply to all women
But all women have a little b**ch in 'em (yeah)
It's like a disease that's plagues their character
Takin' the women of America (yeah)"
[Ice Cube]

That being said, all guys are a'holes to some extent also. Please understand that it is satire.

tenebris
lighten up, generations past threw around the N-word and other racial slurs with no remorse. We may curse more now; but, it isn't nearly as vicious as our parents and grandparents were with their slurs. Ya know what I'm say'n mo-fo ;-)

pepster

"Create a distraction and hope all the attention shifts away from the real issue's."

Are you saying that votes that were going to O can end up for McCain because leftards are too stupid to know what the REAL issues are? I guess we agree!

Posted by: Hemperor at September 3, 2008 11:03 PM

S.Palin IS NOT A PREGENAT TEEN. NO HYPOCRACY HERE YOU SELF LOATHING A'HOLES

Bill Clinton was busted for LYING about his affair UNDER OATH, that is the criticism. A REAL MAN would have put his FAMILY FIRST and taken responsibility for his actions instead of PASSING THE BUCK which is quite UNPRESIDENTIAL.

Hillary Clinton is a poor role model for women! I would never council my two daughters to put up with that CRAP for career advancement. THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS THAN CAREER, try having principals and setting a good example for your children.

new

"they talk about her because she and her family are BIT**ch like most of normal Canadian and US woamn are BIT*** that is their culture to"

Ha! I couldn't read most of your post as I've mentioned before; but, you NAILED that one.

"A bitch is a b**ch (b**ch)
So if I'm poor or rich (word up)
I talk in the exact same pitch
Now the title b**ch don't apply to all women
But all women have a little b**ch in 'em (yeah)
It's like a disease that's plagues their character
Takin' the women of America (yeah)"
[Ice Cube]

That being said, all guys are a'holes to some extent also. Please understand that it is satire.

tenebris
lighten up, generations past threw around the N-word and other racial slurs with no remorse. We may curse more now; but, it isn't nearly as vicious as our parents and grandparents were with their slurs. Ya know what I'm say'n mo-fo ;-)

pepster

"Create a distraction and hope all the attention shifts away from the real issue's."

Are you saying that votes that were going to O can end up for McCain because leftards are too stupid to know what the REAL issues are? I guess we agree!

Sorry wrong posting name, if I get blasted I just wanted ya'll to know which dummy your ripping on;>)

Posted by: Indiana Homez at September 3, 2008 11:05 PM

SHe's just the crowds reall attention here.

Excellently deliverd pro-McCain "fight for you" line.

This is the "support McCain" bit, which ashe is obligated to do. Crowd niot impressed, rather silent. I think the crowd wants the babe.

Video shot of old vet. Awaiting her crescendo...

Oh, what a smile .. and she plays an audience.

Posted by: RW at September 3, 2008 11:06 PM

Not surprising that the Lying Jackal is taking the mysoginist route on this one. True to form.

Posted by: CruBourgoisSup at September 3, 2008 11:06 PM

"McCain see us through the next 4 years".

Hety, this is the first female POTUS!

Posted by: RW at September 3, 2008 11:08 PM

"..a man who uses change to promote his career as opposed to one who uses his career to promote change.."

Thats gotta hurt!

Syncro

Posted by: syncrodox at September 3, 2008 11:10 PM

"McCain see us through the next 4 years".

Hety, this is the first female POTUS!

No crescendo :-(. She did her loyalty bit in saying that McCain was THE guy. People want her!
Chabnting; clapping; adoration.

This is the next POTUS after the upcoming one.

No wonder the dems are scared.

We ahve an encore as McCain come son stage to bathe in the glory. he speaks. SHe did her job perfectly.


I really think, person ally, that McCain is doing this to propel her to presiodency. I thinbk he expects to lose. She won't.

Posted by: RW at September 3, 2008 11:12 PM

Wot a babe! As one of the blogging commentators on hotair said " if you gave her a balanced axe with a sharp blade you wouldn't know your arm was missing until went to read your watch." LOL!

Posted by: Skip at September 3, 2008 11:12 PM

"McCain see us through the next 4 years".

Hety, this is the first female POTUS!

No crescendo :-(. She did her loyalty bit in saying that McCain was THE guy. People want her!
Chabnting; clapping; adoration.

This is the next POTUS after the upcoming one.

No wonder the dems are scared.

We ahve an encore as McCain come son stage to bathe in the glory. he speaks. SHe did her job perfectly.


I really think, person ally, that McCain is doing this to propel her to presiodency. I thinbk he expects to lose. She won't.

Posted by: RW at September 3, 2008 11:13 PM

I hope she never carries a violin case to a debate.

Posted by: Alfonso Cashbagliano at September 3, 2008 11:14 PM

In summary, she should be allowed to write her own speeches.

This woman, by accident or design, will become POTUS, at some point.

My advice to you is to avoid being controlled by professional politicians. Let's not forget that these people are loosers; they tell others how to win political office rather than do it themeselves.

Posted by: RW at September 3, 2008 11:17 PM

Governor Sarah Palin in her acceptance speech is taking the hide off of Obama, Biden, and their co-conspirators in the media like she would a moose with a sharp knife. The left has so lost this election. Super Sarah strikes, not just fear, but terror in their hearts: "The American Presidency is not supposed to be a journey of..personal discovery. "In this world of threats and dangers, it's not just a community, and it doesn't just need an organizer, and though both Senator Obama and Senator Biden have been going on lately about how they are always quote "fighting" for you, let us face the matter squarely. There is only one man in this election who has ever really fought for you. There is only one man in this election who has ever really fought for you in places where winning means survival and defeat means death, and that man IS John McCain."

Posted by: twolaneflash at September 3, 2008 11:22 PM

"New" at 10.56 pm, I can only suggest you take a lesson or two in a language (of your choice) and then post. Because your so-called "words" are gibberish.

But, there is a purpose to those words, aren't there, wanker?

Posted by: RW at September 3, 2008 11:40 PM

RCGZ @1030

And you wouldbn't lik to fstarstark Jackie Kenney???

Posted by: RW at September 3, 2008 11:45 PM

Nothing like a good looking sharp woman to make a guy look good...:) Now McCain's going to have to say "yes,dear to two women..."

Posted by: Skip at September 3, 2008 11:49 PM

They’re scared now, the ‘O’ condescends to appear on O’Reilly tomorrow.

I pity Hillary’s servants tonight.

Posted by: Bernie at September 3, 2008 11:51 PM

The interesting part I saw in Noonan's column was near the end, referring to the MSM.

"The mainstream media, which has been holding endless symposia here on the future of media in the 21st century, is in danger of missing a central fact of that future: If they appear, once again, as they have in the past, to be people not reporting the battle but engaged in the battle, if they allow themselves to be tagged by that old tag, which so tarnished them in the past, they will do more to imperil their own future than the Internet has.

This is true: fact is king. Information is king. Great reporting is what every honest person wants now, it's the one ironic thing we have less of in journalism than we need. But reporting that carries an agenda, that carries Bubblehead assumptions and puts them forth as obvious truths? Well, some people want that. But if I were doing a business model for broadsheets and broadcast networks I'd say: Fact and data are our product, we're putting everything into reporting, that's what we're selling, interpretation is the reader's job, and think pieces are for the edit page where we put the hardy, blabby hacks."

Diane Francis at the National Post might want to take some notes. Not waiting for the asteroid indeed.

Posted by: Dave in AB at September 4, 2008 12:10 AM

OK. Early days. Missed first half hour of her speech. From what I saw, though - holy s**t that was a good speech.

She took all the crap from the angry Mooreians and threw it right back in their faces. When CNN gushes about a speech from a Republican, it's got to be good, and it was.

She exceeded my expectations, and I likely wouldn't have watched any of her speech, except the Dems got me curious.

First impressions are just that, but I believe she is the real deal.

She speaks nearly as well as, dare I say it, Bill Clinton (hated his politics and conduct, but a superb speaker and communicator of ideas).

For a first major speech with huge national exposure, this was an outstanding performance. She gave the Dems the metaphorical finger and her colleagues, and many others I think, loved it.

This lady has charisma, and hope for an exciting new breed of modern politicians. Our understated PM is another. So much for James Traver's argument that the conservatives are in retreat (oh, did you mean conservatism; yeah whatever).

Biden will have his hands full in the VP debate. Methinks the dems, if they are smart that is, will turn their guns back towards McCain.

I thought McCain would be next president before Palin's speech. Now I would be willing to bet on it.

I wondered what bothered the dems so much about Palin. Now I know.

Posted by: Shamrock at September 4, 2008 1:00 AM

Zilla at 6:17PM

Exactly! If Sarah Palin really were a hapless nobody, the Dems and their nutroots would be doing handsprings of pure elation. But because she is anything but an empty suit, the knives are out, and the venom is spraying. In their blackest hearts, they know that Obama and Biden are the empty suits, so they feel compelled to attack John McCain's choice of running-mate.

It's so friggin' transparent, I can't believe they really think they will fool anybody. Nothing more than the temper tantrum of the spoiled child, thwarted.

Posted by: gordinkneehill at September 4, 2008 2:21 AM

So, there was my first attempt at live blogging. it is difficult. Especially late at night :-)

Posted by: RW at September 4, 2008 8:17 AM

"Stupid bitch slashed that funding by -200%. Send her back to the kitchen where she belongs."

Moron...

Posted by: Jared at September 3, 2008 7:46 PM

That quote, if you can call it quote, is entirely your's Jared. I don't appreciate the dishonest suggestion that those are somehow my words or thoughts.

The point is she reduced the money voted by the Legislature. If it's still an increase over the previous year, fine.

Since you and other posters claim to know the fundamental truth about Gov Sarah Palin's record in areas of reproductive choice, perhaps you can answer this question. Did she terminate sex education in Alaska schools, other than abstinence based programs?

Posted by: David at September 4, 2008 11:56 AM

Jared: "Cut proposed funding??? What the hell kind of standard is that? If an agency asks for a 800% increase in funding and the politician making the final decision gives them a 200% increase that counts as cutting???!!!"

Geez, Jared, don't you understand lefty math? Spending for education and health care *ROSE* every single year that Mike Harris was Premier of Ontario, but what did the lefties chant? "He cut spending, he cut spending" because he didn't raise spending as much as they wanted. You see, once a lefty asks for something, he assumes it's already his, and if he doesn't get it, it's because some big, bad righty took it away from him.

By the way, 2+2 = 5, War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, and Ignorance is Strength.

Posted by: KevinB at September 5, 2008 12:19 PM
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