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August 21, 2008

Unambiguous

Last week, the Taliban murdered civilian women in Kandahar who were there to deliver aid - and with it some degree of hope - to the Afghan people. They subsequently released an open letter to the Canadian people, threatening more such vile action if Canadian troops aren't withdrawn from Afghanistan.

One of those troops, Col George Petrolekas, has replied with a letter of his own:

You purport to speak for Afghans and Afghanistan yet your only questionable legitimacy comes from the barrel of a gun, the slaughter and intimidation of innocents supported by the profits of the opium crop that you protect. You do not answer for the night letters you send, the people you behead, or the villages you hold hostage whose only crime is that they do not agree with your views.

And yet you dare say that we come to kill your innocent, equally forgetting the deaths of thousands of innocents committed by your fellow travellers in crime; so conveniently forgetting the slaughters of Bali, Madrid, London and New York City. Your words may sound high and mighty, but your actions and deeds betray the truth of what you are: a movement committed to the enslavement and servitude of those whose voices cannot be heard. You revile America forgetting that it gave you more food, flour and wheat than any other nation while you were in power; what did you do for the Afghan people?

That's just the beginning. Do yourself a favour and read the whole thing.

One of the things I love about soldiers is that, while they understand nuance, they know instinctively that directness has its own virtues as well. Not only in words, either...

Posted by Damian at August 21, 2008 11:51 AM
Comments

It's a pity Kate Wheeler at CTV doesn't read
Col George Petrolekas's letter to her viewers to counter her leftist appeasing yappers she invites as "experts" on Canada's mission.

Geez, what a bunch of gutless leftist submissive kneeling appeasers are engaged at CTV.

Posted by: Joe Molnar at August 21, 2008 12:24 PM

I published this letter in the comments section at the G&M on today's story of 3 soldiers killed in Afghanistan, and challenged the G&M to prove that it is not the Canadian mouthpiece of the Taliban since they were very quick to run the Taliban's open letter.

The comments were obliterated and the story closed for commenting 10 minutes later.

Posted by: john g at August 21, 2008 12:33 PM

It would be nice to think of this letter, or those like it, to be air-dropped

Yes, it can be viewed as "propaganda" in some measure, but it is the truth, and may help our soldiers. That said, I don't know the general literacy rate in Afghanistan. It must be lower than it should be, because women cannot attend schools, and on the cycle goes. . . . .

Posted by: Erik Larsen at August 21, 2008 12:42 PM

Good for Col. Petroleka. I read his rebuttal to the Taliban thugs earlier today on the Ottawa Citizen's on the op-ed page.

As the deaths of 3 more Canadian soldiers is announced, this rebuttal serves to remind us of the nature of the Islamist barbarians we are fighting over there. Since when did they need any excuse to kill and brutalize? It is what they do; it is what they stand for. God's warriors indeed.

I am currently reading the novel, "A Thousand Splendid Suns" by Khaled Hosseini that depicts life under the Taliban in despairing detail. For me, this book confirms that our soldiers in Afghanistan are on the side of righteousness. No one should have to live under a regime as pitiless and ruthless as that imposed upon the Afghan people by the Taliban. Every time we blow away one of those bastards marks a step forward for civilization.

Posted by: JMD at August 21, 2008 12:54 PM

Great letter. I really liked the way he debunked their blasphemy of God and the prophet. BTW, the Torstar and Montreal Gazette published responses as well, which are well worth the read.

I would add a further response: You ass***es have a big target painted on your forehead. We will pursue you to the ends of the earth; we will destroy you, make no mistake about that. We won't likely eliminate you completely, but enjoy looking over your shoulders forever.

Regards, the Taliban Hunting Club

Posted by: Shamrock at August 21, 2008 1:07 PM

My letter might have been a little shorter:

"Hi. The Canadians are here. Joke's over, a-holes."

But I don't get to write a letter, seeing as how I didn't go. Probably just as well, some chaplain would have tossed my in the penalty box for unnecessary roughness, like they did with these guys:

phantomsoapbox.blogspot.com/2006/05/longest-combat-shot-in-history-finally.html

Posted by: The Phantom at August 21, 2008 1:15 PM

Great letter!

The Americans on the other hand wouldn't bother with a written letter, more the cluster bomb type 'love' letter.

Posted by: Doug at August 21, 2008 2:13 PM

My response, (http://uncommonsensecanada.blogspot.com/2008/08/cake-eaters.html} was aimed at the ones who spread the contents of letters like these. \

Posted by: Zip at August 21, 2008 2:20 PM

I'm convinced, time to tuck our tails, turn and run.

Posted by: Indiana Homez at August 21, 2008 3:02 PM

What was the point of this letter? It means nothing to the Taliban, so it's obviously intended for Canadian readers. 99% of the taliban can't even read their own names. I've blown off steam by writing letters from time to time, but I usually had sense enough to toss them into the trash instead of mailing them.

I take offense with his claim we're not there to impose our political views on them. Excuse me? What in hell are we there for then? If we're not there to stomp these bearded monsters into oblivion, I don't see much point in wasting another day over there.

This is another shining example of why soldiers should follow orders and keep quiet. They're there to kill the taliban, not crack sarcastic at them. I want them to keep killing taliban until one of two things happen. Either they're all dead, or we run out of bullets.

Posted by: dp at August 21, 2008 3:19 PM

What was the point of this letter? It means nothing to the Taliban, so it's obviously intended for Canadian readers.

...as was the Taliban letter that prompted it. We're winning on the physical battlefield over there, DP. But the fight you're witnessing here is for the six inches between Canadian ears.

Your suggested course of action is dead wrong, as I see it: not only should soldiers be talking more, but so should our politicians, diplomats, aid workers, and anyone else with a vested interest in seeing the Afghan mission succeed.

Because the only thing that can scuttle that mission is a lack of domestic will to see it through.

Posted by: Damian at August 21, 2008 3:47 PM

Why are we wasting billions of dollars and, more importantly, the lives of our soldiers trying to help these primitive barbarians? We might as well try to impose constitutional government on a troop of orangutans. Just keep these low-intelligence death-cultists, and all their co-religionists, out of Canada, please. The army should be guarding our airports, preventing Muslims from immigrating here, not trying to help the unhelpable in Afghanistan.

This is a complete waste of time, money and lives that's sure to end in failure. No one who knows anything about Af'stan, or the entire Muslim world for that matter, has any illusions about them becoming a friendly liberal democracy any time this millennium. Let's cut our losses and leave now. We have far more important things to do, like stopping the creeping Islamization of Canada first and foremost.

Posted by: JP at August 21, 2008 5:40 PM

JP, what underwhelming compassion you have.

If we're not going to be involved in Afghanistan for the more idealistic and helpful reasons, then how about for our own selfish national interests? As a failed state, it was a safe haven for terror groups to strike at the West. Drain the swamps and kill the alligators.

By bringing it up to at least minimal standards of education, governance, prosperity, and the rule of law, hopefully we can keep it from turning into a swamp again.

Canada relies economically, and from a security point of view at least, perceptually upon a system of international law and stability. Fixing failed states is in our national interest.

Be glad I chose to address the only thing resembling an argument in your comment, rather than the bigotry it was cloaked in.

Posted by: Damian at August 21, 2008 6:21 PM

An open letter to the Taliban: (a little less PC)

Bring it on goat boy!


Posted by: Knight 99 at August 21, 2008 6:39 PM

He should have added an open challenge. We'll pick a spot in the open and do it like the old days, the Canadians on one side and the "towel-heads" on the other, face to face, man to man, and see who comes out on top...

Posted by: aproudredneck at August 21, 2008 6:51 PM

"Fixing failed states is in our national interest."

Posted by: Damian at August 21, 2008 6:21 PM

I thought it was becoming obvious after about a century of meddling that we can't fix failed states. They failed for a reason and should be recycled.

Our system is a success story, but won't last much longer at the rate we're abandoning our traditional values.

Posted by: dp at August 21, 2008 7:12 PM

Damian,

As much as admire your non-bigoted idealism, trying to liberalize and democratize Islamic societies is like trying to plow the sea. And we weren't attacked on 9/11 or 3/11 (Madrid) or 7/7 (London) by any Muslim nation's armed forces, but by Muslim visitors, immigrants and children of immigrants that we foolishly allowed into our countries. While Western troops die needlessly in Iraq and Afghanistan, we're busy admitting "refugees" from those two countries. Refugees from what? Us?

Metro Toronto is on course to be over 10% Muslim by 2017, and you're worried about Afghani levels of education, governance, prosperity and the rule of law? These overseas wars are distracting conservatives from real priorities like slowing down the massive influx of Muslim immigrants pouring into our country. Should our soldiers "win" in Afghanistan only to return to an Islamified Canada? Some victory.

There are 57 nations in the Organization of the Islamic Conference. Which one of those nations, in the best case scenario, do you think Afghanistan might resemble after we've "won"? I mean, surely there must be one Muslim nation worth emulating, one Muslim nation Afghans can look to as a model for the future. Please name a model Muslim nation, one that we should spend billions of dollars and scores of lives building, for Afghanistan to eventually resemble. Just one.

Posted by: JP at August 21, 2008 7:17 PM

It would be nice to think of this letter, or those like it, to be air-dropped

Maybe it should be air-dropped over parts of Canada.

This Yank thanks the Canadian troops for their help in Afghanistan. Too many Americans forget that our young men and women aren't the only ones over there. Bravo, Col Petrolekas!

P.S. My family used to vacation in Canada when I was a child, and I have fond memories of Ontario. Sometimes when I read the Canadian papers online, I get the feeling that if I were to venture north now, I'd be met by a hail of rocks.

Posted by: Donna V. at August 21, 2008 7:29 PM

Great letter. He has a sound mind.

I wish he would write one to mention that while we fight over there which I think we should. Slowly but surly the noose is going around our necks as freedom here is under attack. Free speech is gone, as is freedom of religion. In Ontario they are going to see such an out flux of Dr.s & Nurses it wont be funny. If they thought they had problems before in Health care, there in for a rude awakening when you tell people there religious or moral values have been annulled by the State. Than expect them to meekly bow down to the Idol of the OHRT‘s.

They leave . The only ones left are the crack pots, profiteers, sycophants & rats with no talent but survival. Do you really want a killer for a Dr. or one who is a minion of the state fad of the week? When is Ontario going to get off the socialist heroin? Your killing yourself & the rest of the Country.

Posted by: Revnant Dream at August 21, 2008 8:04 PM

Afganestan is like poor african country
you can not walk in certain area
if you are white and talk English look they may hurt you more


people who send woman in that region are doing so much risk

what Afganstan need

1) open school
2) teach the law to them

3) built city
4) made to have income

therefore police to stop crime and food to eat abnd school to eudate themn

I can say it take 10 years that afganstan are able to act like human country

most of thme stand in Afanstan todya are poor mentaly and finciclay

people not know how much they are act danger
even their own people of Afanstean are not able to travel in any time or any where with guard

some times they are follow them for a few days to kill some one

I recommnaded to send in that region
dark skin Canadian soldure not white skin

send some multiculture know the area

do not send any woan to afanstan for a at leat two years they are not act simple and they are too in risk to get killed

most of those people who do bohter people are thiefs, drug dealer and or Wahabi who hate nonMuslim

they are not educated people

afganstan today is like you walk with too much money in middle of night in black area in New york city and your color is white
you put yourslef in risk to gete rubed or may killed

this is srious I did my best recommandation

do not send any reporter to that area use the local afgani reporter to send news out sitll is too danger to go there

if yoiu send simple men and woman may get fool with some one talk to them nice but show them to wrong road thisis war and danger area still

I bleive canada need to have dark skin soludre or let come out of Afanstan and let muslim neightbor deal with that region cnadian culutre are not desig to deal with afgani people well

Posted by: new at August 21, 2008 8:09 PM

Posted by: Donna V.>

“I get the feeling that if I were to venture north now, I'd be met by a hail of rocks.”

That’s an unfounded feeling! The only Canadians that don’t like Americans generally are weirdo’s and Lefty hacks (like the San Francisco crowds). We mostly all come from the same basic stock and upbringing, what’s to hate? We’ve also fought in most of the major wars together (Iraq aside) and would quite possibly be there with you today if the current government was in power at the time. (We threw out the “Liberino” government that was openly stealing from the public that made that decision for Canadians).

The only trouble you’d ever have walking Canadian streets today would be in the color pass areas of Toronto ect……..Just like the rest of us.

Posted by: Knight 99 at August 21, 2008 8:28 PM

Posted by: new at>
“I recommnaded to send in that region
dark skin Canadian soldure not white skin”

As you are obviously a feeding troll and I know better than to reply. The couple of beer I had tonight compels me anyway:

WHAT dark skinned Canadian solders are you talking about?? The one or two they stick up front for the media propaganda shots?

Me thinks looking at the Canadian soldiers pay verses Canadian taxpayer fed Welfare Benefits - patriotism is only skin deep around these parts.

Posted by: Knight 99 at August 21, 2008 8:35 PM

Come on, Knight. Both of our dark skinned soldiers are fighting just as bravely as the rest of the lads.

Posted by: The Phantom at August 21, 2008 8:46 PM

For our no-attention-span liberals I'll take the liberty to paraphrase the Colonel's words.

Dear Taliban,

"Merry Christmas!"


...feel free to interpret that with something sterner.

:D

Posted by: Nightmare at August 21, 2008 9:04 PM

Certainly Phantom!

And kudos’ to each of them. I am as proud of their contribution to our security and way of life as with all of our soldiers.

I’m just a little disappointed that being “Canadian” really is a colorful issue that we can’t discuss openly, particularly with statistics to keep us better informed as to the immigration policies we pursue.

Are we a nation striving towards the future of innovation and discovery, free of repression, rich in our endeavors? Or are we a nation slaving away in meritocracy feeding the worlds lazy and underachieving to fulfill the dreams of drug-laden hippies and insecure religious zealots?

Well we hide the race and religion statistics to make the conscious choices as to whom and what we allow into our “village” to live don’t we? I suppose in the purple haze of things, that shouldn’t matter as long as it sounds good.

Being P–Incorrect I believe it’s wrong not to know who you’ve brought into your house to live full time! And what the hell is wrong with statistics?? I suppose the answer is that we all “deep down” know the outcome of some of those statistics anyway, don’t we. So we’ll simply ignore the facts to satisfy a few as a sacrifice of our way of life, because theirs means so much more.

Posted by: Knight 99 at August 21, 2008 9:08 PM

On the subject of the ethnicity of Canadian soldiers- I spent part of my vacation this year visiting historic sites in the maritimes. There are many war memorials around Halifax, and I made a real effort to look at them with my kids. I encouraged them to actually read the names, and try to remember that these were sons, and brothers, and friends who never came home. Most of them were not much older than my sons.

We must have read 1000 names on quite a number of monuments, and never once saw the name Mohammed. It sparked my curiousity to the point that I visited more and more monuments, and still no Mohammed. In fact, I didn't see a single name that could have been middle eastern. Two world wars, thousands of dead Canadians, not a single sacrifice by a middle eastern soldier.

I'd like to challenge readers to try and find a single example of a middle eastern "Canadian" making a sacrifice for Canada. Maybe a cop, or firefighter. Even a story about someone jumping into a river to save a kid. Anything, no matter how small, I'd just like to see it.

Posted by: dp at August 22, 2008 12:11 AM

I'd agree that such letters are aimed at our own populace - though Taliban sympathizers and fellow travelers will undoubtably pass it on to the taliban.

One only needs to read comments from the Slop and Pail to know that many in Canada are opposed to our efforts in Afghanistan and I believe it's important that we work hard to counter that view.

My local newspaper ran an editorial supporting Canada's action, following the death of the two Canadian aid workers, so I followed up with the letter below - because it may help to influence others in my NDP weighted town.

Dear Editor,

Thank you for your stirring defence of Canada’s role in Afghanistan (Destroying Taliban must become a priority, Mon. Aug 18th).

As a democracy, Canada has a moral imperative in supporting the freedom, hopes and aspirations of the Afghan people by defending them from the degenerate and inhuman actions of the Taliban. No one should live as ideological slaves, fearing for their lives and unable to hope for better lives for their children. The Taliban are criminals and thugs and have no social, cultural, legal or moral basis for which they can claim legitimacy.

Dawn Black of the NDP is again pleading that we acquiesce to the Taliban as they issue threats against the lives of not only our reconstruction forces, but those of independent aid workers. She and her colleagues should be ashamed. History illustrates that appeasement emboldens the enemy and begets more aggression, yet Jack Layton continues to plead that we “talk with the Taliban”.

People of conscience know that evil must be confronted and defeated and the actions of the Taliban can be described as nothing less.

Posted by: No Guff at August 22, 2008 12:45 AM

What’s Jack’s problem?

He knows the longer we’re in Afghanistan the more eligible refugees we’ll be awarded with later on. What better way to spread the wealth, than welfare subsidies other than food aid to foreign wastelands?

How many are betting Jack’s making up some spare bedrooms at his place for a couple of Afghani families? The Somali things gotten old anyway and most of them was shipped off to “oil rich Alberta” eh.

Afghanis grow good poppies and this old hippy be looking at a bit more bite in retirement than hanging with pie throwing lizard haters and radical “peace activists” who beat old anti-immigrant advocates for cause.

Posted by: Knight 99 at August 22, 2008 2:06 AM

Posted by: dp at August 22, 2008 12:11 AM>

Muslims living in Canada feel no patriotism or sense of defense of Canada other than their first loyalty to Islam.

To the “moderate Muslim” Canada is a means of personal escape from environmental and economic hardship NOTHING MORE!

Never will you find a true Muslim freely engaged in the Canadian military, unless there is a propaganda or radical Islamic operational agenda to be made. It completely goes against their “first” devotion to Islam, unless there is a strategic advantage for the radicalized Muslim. Otherwise Canadian taxpayer welfare benefits are far more comforting and nonetheless viewed as owed tribute to the chosen peoples of Allah.

If this was not the case, they would not be Muslim and would therefore be well on their way to being just Canadians. The challenge is to find some of them instead of names on a war memorial.

Quite a challenge.


Posted by: Knight 99 at August 22, 2008 2:28 AM

BTW, in all fairness I must mention there are in fact lots of black guys in the CF. During my brief stint in the militia back in the 1812 I met a few. The vast majority are from the Maritimes, and they are a tough bunch of b@stards. Maritimers tend to be that way.

Of late I understand quite a few Sikhs are joining up, another tough bunch. Of Muslims I have no information one way or the other.

I admire anybody who can join up and do well in the Forces. Frankly I sucked at it, couldn't tolerate being told what to do. A personal flaw, to be sure.

Then again it was the Trudeau Era, faint possibility I'd have done better at a different time when the Forces were a little more serious about things. Make-work and pointless waste motion irritates me.

Posted by: The Phantom at August 22, 2008 9:39 AM

No Guff: Jack Layton continues to plead that we “talk with the Taliban”.

Why doesn't Layton take it upon himself to engage the Taliban in preliminary discussions? I know of no law preventing him from visiting Afghanistan and acquainting himself with the locals .... in an unofficial capacity of course since he has zero chance of ever becoming Prime Minister. Better yet ... why doesn't the government finance his trip? Think of the benefits. After meeting with Layton, the Taliban would be given a false sense of security with the notion that all Canadians are mindless fools.

The only provision attached to Layton's foray into Taliban country would be that no NATO soldiers would be used to retrieve his headless body when the "discussions" come to an abrupt end.

Posted by: biff jr. at August 22, 2008 10:26 AM
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