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July 21, 2008

I'll Take "Deport Them Both" For $1,000 Alex.

It's "more pavilions at Folkfest day" at the CBC!

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h/t to Catfur, who has a poll in which everyone can lose!

Posted by Kate at July 21, 2008 7:29 PM
Comments

It appears El-Masry-Sharpton is getting trounced over there at CBC pretty good. Are Canadians waking up?

Posted by: Sounder at July 21, 2008 7:37 PM

cross-posted at 7:06 p.m. in Reader Tips:

I detest Mohamed Elmasry not because he's "brown-skinned" (his own words back at him) or because he's a Muslim but because he indiscriminantly and erroneously uses the racial/religious bigotry card to forward his own agenda.

His accusations against Prime Minister Stephen Harper-- PM ignoring Khadr because he's 'brown-skinned': Elmasry (http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/07/21/khadr-elmasry.html)--are groundless.

He insists that PMSH's decision not to interfere with the U.S. legal system is due to Mr. Harper's "playing politics because of the backdrop of Islamophobia in this country."

Yada, yada, yada. What Islamophobia? 'Any mosques been burned down? 'Any Muslims been beaten up? His accusations, based on no evidence but his own prejudices, should never have made it into the media--but, that's the MSM for you, especially CBCPravda.

Where was Mr. Elmasry's indignation when for years the Librano$ left Mr. Khadr Jr. in Gitmo, raising not a finger to bring him home? What was the reason behind the LPC and PM Paul Martin's inaction? Were they also "racial bigots"? Did they leave Omar Khadr in Gitmo because he was "brown-skinned" and because of Canadians' supposed "Islamophobia"?

If anyone's bigoted it's Mr. Elmasry. He has maligned all Canadians when he accuses "this country" of Islamophobia. I do not resemble his remark, nor do most Canadians.

Posted by: batb at July 21, 2008 7:39 PM

Sounder: "It appears El-Masry-Sharpton is getting trounced over there at CBC pretty good. Are Canadians waking up?"

My question, Sounder, is, Is the CBC waking up?!

Posted by: batb at July 21, 2008 7:44 PM

There is a pic of a smiling Qmar Khadr carrying 3 severed hands. Now the face is plain to see. It could be doctored, who knows.

If it is for real and it is him, how come it is not used to counter the "innocent child" arguement?

The young lad (then) was lucky he wasn't shot dead.


Posted by: GaryinWpg at July 21, 2008 7:51 PM

batb: "My question, Sounder, is, Is the CBC waking up?!"

Don't hold your breath on that one.

Posted by: Sounder at July 21, 2008 7:52 PM

Maybe Muhammed was a prophet after all. Looks like he was able to turn reason into whine.

Posted by: Shaken at July 21, 2008 7:54 PM

Altho' shockingly they DID mention Elmasry's infamous statement that all joos under 18 were legitimate mass-murder targets. That really surprised me. I would have expected them to suppress that inconvenient fact.

Hey, I'm not defending the CBC. It's lovely in Vancouver -- I'm in an expansive mood!

The CBC should, by legislation, be forced out of all current affairs broadcasting and limited to politically neutral issues, which admittedly are few!

Posted by: Me No Dhimmi at July 21, 2008 7:55 PM

Too bad no one returned fire!! That cute little face would look in the book named, "THE COMPLETE LIST OF 9-1-1 CASUALTIES. Screw the bleeding heart Liberals.

Posted by: Lone Ranger at July 21, 2008 7:59 PM

CBCpravda , All Khadr , All the Time.


someone posted the "Khadr with severed hands" picture back a couple of weeks ago. I cannot find the link.

CBCpravda seems stuck on stupid , they only publish the picture of Khadr as a 14 year old from some yearbook in Trona, the seat of the Khadr welfare fraud.

Posted by: cal2 at July 21, 2008 8:02 PM

cal2: try "Khadr Video Polarizes Canadians" @
http://dustmybroom.com/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/limit,13/limitstart,26/

Posted by: batb at July 21, 2008 8:12 PM

I've seen that photo and studied it. I believe that it's two hands and a foot and it's definitely young Khadr holding them up like trophy bass.
He is where he belongs.

Posted by: multirec at July 21, 2008 8:19 PM

The Western world is at war on terrorism and that terrorism is coming from radical Islamists/Muslims from the ME and some even in our midst. Since we are in a state of war,WHY isn't Elmasry being hauled in and interrogated for his outlandish outbursts that come close to sympathy/support with the terrorists?
This same creep said any Israeli over 18 was a fair target for suicide bombers? Does that mean he condones suicide bombing? If so he's in the same mindset as Momma Khadr. It then follows he would go to bat for and have sympathy for the Khadr spawn and the whole dastardly family.

We can't sit by and tolerate any more from this individual,letting him spew such false crap about the Prime Minister of our Country.

Posted by: Liz J at July 21, 2008 8:20 PM

Oh goodie, they are getting that El-Masry tied in with the kahdr terrorist famaily. Can't get any better than this. Liberals, el-asshole, and omar the baby terrorist held up as the face of al-qaeda in Canada. Many people in Canada have been waiting a long tme to tell the evil kahdr family that they are hated, and not wanted here because they are the scum of the earth. They are getting an opportunity. Even the liberals know if they push to bring omar the baby terrorist back they are responsible for him and his scumbag families actions. You would think after the liberals fought to get papa khadr back to Canada so he could kill again, that would have taught them something.

Posted by: Honey Pot at July 21, 2008 8:26 PM

The Liberals toast marshmallows over the rage of Canadians for what they have wrought. They push this Cry Me A River Al Qaeda Khadr Poster Boy on us and we have our chance to yell back into the radio. We're yelling.

Keep pushing, Liberals. Nearly over the cliff.

Posted by: Shaken at July 21, 2008 8:43 PM

Watching that video of the young lad is sickening. Dramatic, over the top, typical low rent acting. They've taken my eyes and feet, or something to that effect because I refuse to watch it again, was his statement. Did he do this for us or will it reach the radicals, a verbal cry of jihad reverberating through their ranks for one of their fallen heroes.
In the end, I'm sure this yarn will have Israelis showing up to drain his blood.

Posted by: multirec at July 21, 2008 8:43 PM

J'Accuse Liberal ex-PM Martin, Jr., and the Canadian MSM of torture.
Martin, Jr., and the Canadian MSM are torturing Canadians with their call for a Muslim Islamist murderer to be brought to Canada.
The MSM is the facilitator of this overt campaign.
Martin, Jr., the Liberal Party, and the Canadian MSM are at war with the Canadian people.
Down with Martin, Jr., the Liberal Party, the MSM, El-Misery, and the Khadrs.
...-

""It's [sleep deprivation] been going on since Christ was interrogated by Herod," Gar Pardy said"
...-

"Bring back Khadr now, Martin says
Ex-PM says he should have worked to repatriate prisoner while in office"

"A former top civil servant in Foreign Affairs said yesterday that while the Federal Court of Canada has since ruled that sleep deprivation is contrary to the United Nations Convention Against Torture, it may not have resonated all that strongly within the bureaucracy or been flagged to politicians.

"It's been going on since Christ was interrogated by Herod," Gar Pardy said in an interview yesterday. He retired in 2003, a year before the sleep deprivation memo concerning Mr. Khadr was written.

Mr. Pardy, a former consular chief who said his early efforts to get Mr. Khadr out of "Gitmo" were resisted by many in the Canadian government, added that the Canadian news media were partly responsible for the chill concerning Mr. Khadr.

After 9/11, accounts involving the teenaged prisoner almost inevitably pointed out that Mr. Chrétien had intervened for the suspect's father in 1996, when Pakistan had held the elder Khadr as an al-Qaeda suspect, before ultimately letting him go. "Mention the name Khadr around Ottawa in '02-'03 and everyone ducked for cover," Mr. Pardy said."
http://tinyurl.com/6rc8c9 (g-m)

Posted by: maz2 at July 21, 2008 8:44 PM

Watching that video of the young lad is sickening. Dramatic, over the top, typical low rent acting. They've taken my eyes and feet, or something to that effect because I refuse to watch it again, was his statement. Did he do this for us or will it reach the radicals, a verbal cry of jihad reverberating through their ranks for one of their fallen heroes.
In the end, I'm sure this yarn will have Israelis showing up to drain his blood.

Posted by: multirec at July 21, 2008 8:44 PM

Shaken says : Maybe Muhammed was a prophet after all. Looks like he was able to turn reason into whine.

Maybe Muhammed was a prophet after all. Looks like he was able to turn TREASON into whine.

There fixed it for ya!

Posted by: Avaia at July 21, 2008 9:02 PM

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you horrible neo-cons just don't get it.
if you wanna fix canada... the first thing
you do is fire all the police chiefs.

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Posted by: neo at July 21, 2008 9:08 PM

Look, there are only two possibilities. Either Khadr was a lawful combatant, or he was not.

If he WAS NOT a lawful combatant, then the Third Geneva Convention (GC III) rules governing treatment of prisoners of war quite simply do not apply, and Washington is free to charge him as a terrorist or criminal. This means trying him according to their procedures and under their laws, full stop. Alternatively, they could hand him over to the Afghan government for trial and imprisonment. Given the choice between an Afghan prison and Club Gitmo, I have no doubt which Mr. Khadr would prefer.

If, on the other hand, he WAS a lawful combatant, then he is entitled to PW status and must be treated in accordance with GC III. And in accordance with GC III, Washington is entitled to keep him under detention until the conclusion of hostilities with the enemy on whose behalf Khadr was fighting. This means that the Americans can keep him in clink until every last jihadist throws in the towel and the curtain falls on WW IV, or President Obama surrenders unconditionally to the Taliban, whichever comes first.

Now - here's a twist that nobody seems to be considering. By "assisting an enemy at war with Canada", Khadr has made himself liable to a charge of high treason pursuant to the Criminal Code. The language is unequivocal; so unequivocal that once upon a time, we used to hang traitors (in fact, they used to suffer considerably worse punishment, as the closing scenes of "Braveheart" attest).

So even if Khadr were to be released from detention tomorrow, he would remain a Canadian citizen who admits having fought for an enemy that is killing Canadian troops. That gives Canada first claim on his treasonous kiester. And he would almost certainly face a far longer sentence here in the Demented Dominion than he would on a charge of second-degree murder in some US federal pen.

Presuming, of course, that our government had the guts to lay treason charges, prosecute the case, and face down the inevitable hockey-sock full of liberal terrorism apologists, humanitarian busy-bodies, NDP wing-nuts, NGO cranks, and amoral lawyers looking to pad their resumes by winning (or losing) a high-profile case.

So that's it - either a terrorist faces a U.S. jail (or an Afghan one), or a traitor faces a Canadian jail. Given those options, I vote for the latter. Like Paul Bernardo and Clifford Olsen, this is an especially repulsive species of criminal. I will gladly fork over my share in taxes to keep him jugged in that medieval stoneheap on the Kingston waterfront until, in words of the immortal Rush Limbaugh, he assumes room temperature.

Institutionally speaking, I'm not sure how Kingston stacks up against Gitmo. I suspect the weather's not quite as nice on the north shore of Lake Ontario. And somehow I doubt the staff will be handling his Koran with pristine white gloves.

Posted by: DN at July 21, 2008 9:21 PM

It almost looks like a CBC thread that has gone horribly wrong :-)

Posted by: RW at July 21, 2008 9:26 PM

It just demonstrates how tone deaf Elmasry is to the society he lives in. Which is good. He's a disgusting enough little Islamist toady that the press can't continue to ignore him, the public is taking notice, pc muzzled mouths are being unzipped and minds are being made up about him and all of the useful idiot lefties like the HRC's that tried to defend his position on free speech look stupid.

He's a gift.

Posted by: penny at July 21, 2008 9:30 PM

DN @9.21 Khadr was a combatant. I don't give a flying fart as to whether he was legal or not. Where did he apply for the license?

No, he was brought up by a familly who hate infidels; in a culture that hates infidels, and is determined to dominate them.

I don't care whether he had applied for the particular Jihad permit, or it was in his father's name. Any which way, he is enemy, as are his familly.

And why do we call him Canadian? He is how old? And how many years of his life has he spent in Canada?

Just drop them by air in Pakistan where they belong. They clearly hate the Canada.

Posted by: RW at July 21, 2008 9:31 PM

DN The conditions on the North shore of Lake Ontario, in Kingston are excellent. I get such a sense of liberty and freedom scuba diving there. Haha, Khadr won't.

Posted by: RW at July 21, 2008 9:36 PM

Liz J @8.20 The West is, unfortunately, not at war. Islam is at war with all civilisations, adn has been for 1400 years. it is central to their doctrine.

Posted by: RW at July 21, 2008 9:42 PM

Now, now NEO -"Fire all police chiefs"

Your are starting to imitate the ramblings of Dr. Daug and his 1 man posse/poster of an unarmed Deputy Daug.

Posted by: The LS from SK at July 21, 2008 9:43 PM

DN:"Presuming, of course, that our government had the guts to lay treason charges, prosecute the case, and face down the inevitable hockey-sock full of liberal terrorism apologists, humanitarian busy-bodies, NDP wing-nuts, NGO cranks, and amoral lawyers looking to pad their resumes by winning (or losing) a high-profile case."

While not exhaustive, that's still a pretty good list of the main classes of "useful idiots" in this country. Leftist professors, anti-semite student organizations and toady MSM journalists would be the next biggest, although they could arguably fit into one of DN's categories. Oh, and we shouldn't forget about the lawfare jihadists.

Posted by: felis corpulentis at July 21, 2008 9:47 PM

The best solution for Omar is not to back to Canada I think he needs to go to Muslim countires

how about they switch Khadr with Mr. William
Sampson togetehr send William Sampson to Canada and sent Khadr to Saud Arabia

with background of Khadr and all discriminaiton and racist people live in Canada the canada become hell like other Muslim live in Canada

he never able to find job or go to universityh without finger point him

the best he is Muslim he go to Saudi Arabi
if he did not kill anybody just he was there

after trial he can go for one year under mental therapy there is child therapy good there
and he can stay as Muslim Saudi arbai is high tech conutnties nad has good school and university

bring Khadr with his background is not benefit him with exisiting socity

he can back to Canada may be 10 years from now first he needs to go to Muslim country then he can able to back ot Canda by 10 years all politic against Muslim is disappare and nobody remember who is Khadr is and he can have regular life ahead and put all night mare of his teeng time behind and may this is best solution

to swithch these two kids togetehr

in case of Sampson he did crime and he did kill some one he can stay some yeas in jail in Canada and may be he got pro at least he can see his family here

again this is my opionin may be I am right

while Khadr is tranfer to Saudi Arabi for at least 10 years to finish his school and university and get some help he must go under Candain citizen get protected by government of canada not liek Saudi people he is canadain and he can get supported by embasy of Canada in Saudi arabi if he face otehr treat they can change his space to new places if it need to

again he is canadain he need to supporte by canada law

again we may have bad boys live in Canada but they are product of Canda and we must face it when some one is Canadain citizen you can not take this citizenship from him unless he like to change his citizne to other countires

agian he did n to kill any Canadian as we know that if Khadr proof he did kill canadain is differnt story but the treat was not for Candain soludre over there and this must under condidrtiaon if Citizne hurt other citizen in Canada we must treat them badly as well

but I bleive crime is crime killing any human for hate and exceuce and your anger is nto acceptable and we can not tolerate any crime in world
but we msut see which place is good for him
whether ornot Khard need to live with his mother also should get review

wether or nt his mother is good mother to bring his child to this position if she is qulify
khadr needt o ban for some years not see his family until he coope from hate learn from his parent may be or his bad freinds maybe

still I do nto know anything about Khadr to jdug e him or made finaly thoght for him
this is up to his lawyer to study best for him and his right

I think Prime minster need to understand all gange killin dialy in canada are Canadian and not Muslim therefore intefer of Harper to this regar is nto necessary
he must stop the crime he is not the judge to made judmgen for legal right of any citizen this is not up to harpet to made final call for Khadr

there is tnoo many prison capture in war zone and solutin mus find in real problmes not only stick to one person

everyh body had second chance if he is still was teengaers I bleive

I also understand harper tries to made canada secure form peopel may do involve in terrorist activies since Canada is not too much uptodate compare with US to stop all big mission soon and that is reason Harper may scre for security of himself and candain over any future terrorist activites but is Khadr is terrost or not you must face it he is canadain

Posted by: Isam at July 21, 2008 10:03 PM

William Sampson was innocent of any crime, and deserved freedom. Khadr was a nonuniformed combatant and deserves the firing squad.

Fighting against an ally of Canada, in a war in which Canada was about to become involved, prob ably makes him a traitor, for which he deserves the firing squad.

The Elmasry's outlook is peculiar. The federal government was not effecctive in securing William Sampson's release, which seems to have been due to private parties.

Posted by: John Lewis at July 21, 2008 10:08 PM

William Sampson was innocent of any crime, and deserved freedom. Khadr was a nonuniformed combatant and deserves the firing squad.

Fighting against an ally of Canada, in a war in which Canada was about to become involved, prob ably makes him a traitor, for which he deserves the firing squad.

The Elmasry's outlook is peculiar. The federal government was not effecctive in securing William Sampson's release, which seems to have been due to private parties.

Posted by: John Lewis at July 21, 2008 10:08 PM

And he would almost certainly face a far longer sentence here in the Demented Dominion than he would on a charge of second-degree murder in some US federal pen.

But, why should we, DN?. There's no guarantee that Canada won't revisit some Euroweenie-like lefty majority again in the future that would "rehabilitate" him in 5 or 10 years, no offense, but, his repatriation isn't going to happen. Here, we can contol that possible outcome.

If he is found guilty, he hangs or serves a life sentence with us. After that, he can go back to Canada in a hearse. I also doubt second degree murder is in the cards, his crime was clearly premeditated.

Posted by: penny at July 21, 2008 10:13 PM

I don't want to see the little chit deported; I would far rather see him in front of a firing squad. Along with these liberal morons that would give him a free ride after trying to kill our boys and our allies.

I am sick of liberals committing treason and calling it 'free speech'.

Posted by: Rusty P. Bucket at July 21, 2008 10:23 PM

Well,RW, when a country sends it's Military off to fight against these terrorist scum it may be a different kind of fight, but it's still war.

Given their history and present widespread hatreds we can only assume it's a tenet of their belief. They can't explain it any other way. Some have tried to proliferate the big lie calling it the religion of peace, that's been shot down by their actions, the fight goes on.

There seems to be so much confusion among those who are within the Islamic faith as to what the Koran dictates due to wildly differing interpretations. The civilized Western Democracies are having to deal with the most extreme interpretations from within as well due to immigration gone awry.

Hoping this latest outburst from Elmasry is the final straw for any further tolerance of him in any capacity, including as a University professor.

He should be hauled before his beloved HRC for his venomous, over the top diatribe insinuating the Prime Minister is racist.

Posted by: Liz J at July 21, 2008 10:26 PM

I just read and commented on the CBC blog.

The number of supporters of Harper is overwhelming.

I have noted a big change in what Canadians think of our Muslim imports.

The times they are a changin' folks.

We may just be winning.

Be vigilant y'all, there is much to lose.

Posted by: John V at July 21, 2008 10:57 PM

C'mon now folks, Omar Khadr has it pretty good at Club G'itmo:

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Izme63doBQI&feature=PlayList&p=9D269CCF92FB3486&index=18

Doesn't Elmasry know that its a vacation paradise for war weary jihadis?
Halal Menu:
+ Orange glazed chicken
+ Rice pilaf
+ Steamed peas and mushrooms
+ Fruit roupee
...during Ramadan:
served Lamb, dates and honey
stay also includes own prayer mat, Quran and taybih ( prayer beads ).

The screeching and cries of RACISM! seems to be a profitable buisness these days. Prime minister Harper, leave this little jihadi starter kit
where he is - and you'll get my vote, again.

Posted by: lilli marlene at July 21, 2008 10:59 PM

I have this chilling thought. What would be the rights of Canadians if people like El-Masry had any real power?.

Posted by: Peter(Lock City) at July 21, 2008 11:28 PM

If middle east stop the war I will back to Muslim country
who need Canada

do not ask Canada this is not our country we only are canadian citizen

look are prime minster Harper and look at

all this peopel wrote garbage dirty thing about Islam Muslim

nobody care about Canada as you do
take it ( Canada)

nobody want the place with full hate

and no law can stop those racist people

I recommanded all Muslim never talk to nonMuslim for some time espcially people who hate Muslim alot

keep Muslim communitey togehter and never buy the word these peopel say about us

good by Canada
In future if government can not stop these fashist people we must like jewish back to live in Isreal
i am afraid one day come Muslim say to Jewish
help us out of hand of this christian Canadain
and muslim fill application to get immigrant back to Isreal
is becom very funny if that day come

gossip and slander is desease of heart
who needs canada
take it for yourself
we all out of here if PM is not support Muslim laws adn not able to stop racist in Canada

Posted by: Isam at July 21, 2008 11:28 PM

Hey look the sock puppet is back this time with a different name!

Posted by: Smash'em at July 21, 2008 11:37 PM

Hey Isam,

Consider this. Many of us don't like you because you hate us. If you want to assimilate and free your women, stop making special demands for foot wash centers and that sort of stuff and you will be surprised how many new friends you will have.

Canadians are a very welcoming people, but we have this think about wanting to be liked. It is important to us.

Meanwhile, tell me where I can send a donation to help you with your ticket home.

Posted by: John V at July 21, 2008 11:40 PM

well Isam if Canada and Canadians are so terrible then please tell me what wonderful utopian land you are from?

What most people have a problem with are all these self appointed domestic "Islamic Leaders" attempting to take away our freedoms, and the international terrorists handing out death sentences to all who disagree with them.

Posted by: ChrisinMB at July 21, 2008 11:45 PM

Mr.Elmasry is a pig who begets pigs.He issues swill and condons swill so he is a pig.Any person who condons the killing of Canadian or American soldiers,as Mr. Elmasry has, is also a pig.I could call these scum worse but pigs will do for now.

Posted by: spike 1 at July 21, 2008 11:48 PM

I don’t think Canadians have woken up yet , its just there out of patience with new people coming here demanding we change our own ways to the conduct that forced them here in the first place. Its like a guest moving in criticizing how you run your own family or home. Refusing to leave , but continues to complain as a right because they are a guest. I think this pisses off most Canucks as rude. As for the danger of Multiculturalism or Islamification, its still fringe in most minds I believe. It is wearing thin at the edges already, as time passes it will become more self evident & undeniable. Will we have that time though to shore up our cultural defenses against this lawfare?
Some of the responses where good on the CBC blog. Actually better than I thought or imagined the CBC to allow. I do see most of these Canadians are starting to see the racist or bigot remarks as they are or at least acknowledging the idea of this have merit. That they may just be a tool to stop debate. I do think Steyn & Ezra have made some inroads as has this blog in education in these areas. I seen many remarks made by others on that site echo those sentiments here.

JMO

Posted by: Revnant Dream at July 21, 2008 11:56 PM

Elmasry gets a psuedo op-ed with the CBC. How quaint.

Note to editors: If Islam is a joke, then Elmasry is the punchline.

Posted by: Shere Khan at July 22, 2008 12:46 AM

thanks batb


http://dustmybroom.com/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/limit,13/limitstart,26/


we have the link on CBCpravdas blog now. who knows how long it will last.
I sent it in but it was never posted but someone else has put it in almost verbatum to what I had tried to post, strange, its not my pravda code name.

Posted by: cal2 at July 22, 2008 12:50 AM

"who needs canada
take it for yourself
we all out of here if PM is not support Muslim laws adn not able to stop racist in Canada"

Well. He can't seem to stop you and that pig Elmarys whatever(I prefer goatfu%^&er). C'mon by my place,you stupid English twit,and I will send you back to Mommy's basement with a Sharia beating!!!
Funny. This guy/gal/nutcase HRC plant just can't seem to get it right. Hey buddy. If you want people to be upset about what you say,you should get a different language translator. Your gutteral mid 7th century pedophile prophets garbage doesn't translate to English so well. May I suggest pig-latin? With a side order of ham on rye.

Yeah,yeah. Sorry Kate,etc. Don't feed the wanna be jihadist troll. Boring night at work.

Posted by: Justhhinkin at July 22, 2008 1:06 AM

Ever notice how many pro-Khadr screeds want to bring him "home"? Home? He was born in Toronto but only lived a year or two here, from what I have read. It's pretty cynical to refer to Canada as his "home" under these circumstances. Only a life-hating terrorist-lover would do so.

But as the old joke goes, home is where, if you go there, they have to take you in.

Posted by: nv53 at July 22, 2008 1:16 AM

Yay! 'More pavillions for Folkfest' days are always my favourites on SDA!

Posted by: John Murney at July 22, 2008 2:28 AM

Hey John. We're having the "Taste of Edmonton" here right now. Does that count for more pavies? We rednecks would hate to be left out,ya know!!

Posted by: Justthinkin at July 22, 2008 3:02 AM

G'day Isam,

thank you for reading and commenting at SDA. You will find that SDA people are honest, decent, intelligent and unprejudiced people.

However, if you say that moslems should segregate themselves from Canadian society (as you appear to suggest), then I would strongly encourage you to return to Pakistan or Somalia or whatever other islamic bastion of tolerance, freedom of religion and respect for basic human right that you come from.

If I am misinterpreting your views, please respond so that I may better understand why you are in my country and what, if any, benefits you have to offer to my people,

Posted by: jlc at July 22, 2008 7:13 AM

I'd say Elmasry was worse than Khadr any day.

In the final instance, Khadr can at least blame his actions on being a callow, impressionable youth.

Elmasry - like Khadr's parents - is the kind of a manipulative adult who exploits such youth.

Posted by: JJM at July 22, 2008 7:24 AM

The "race card" has become a Joker.

Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at July 22, 2008 7:55 AM

Bye, bye, "Isam", we'll look forward to hearing from you under another alias.
We know you'll never leave. Where else could you have it so good as a pseudo illiterate welfare bum?

Posted by: Liz J at July 22, 2008 8:15 AM

"gossip and slander is desease of heart
who needs canada
take it for yourself
we all out of here if PM is not support Muslim laws adn not able to stop racist in Canada"

Insightful Isam. You might not need Canada but those welfare and medical benefits are mighty handy when one gets shot or paralyzed.

Please don't slam the door on your way out back to the peaceful hills and region on the Afghanistan/Pakistan border. Perhaps you will be welcome in the Khadr's home away from home.

PS - take them with you.

Posted by: The LS from SK at July 22, 2008 8:46 AM

Please notice how QUICKLY the "El-Misery" story got shifted off the CBC website...I don't think it lasted 14 hours. Compare that to the earlier Khadr torture tape story that stayed on the CBC website front page for at least 2 days.

The difference? The majority of the comments for the Khadr story were negative toward the government while the majority of the comments for the "El-Misery" story were negative towards Islamists and ungrateful immigrants.

No...no bias at CBC.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 22, 2008 9:57 AM


Mr. Elmasry doesn't understand us on iota. He mistakes patience and good nature for complacency. To his surprise things have turned against him.. What he fails to realize, it always has been this way. The majority of Canadians sit back. watch, and listen in silence. They do not become vocal until they have been saturated with this BS to the point of no return.

Many of us have deep roots in this country. Our ancestors welcomed peoples from many different lands with open arms. We married into umpteen different cultures throughout a couple of centuries. It is only recent that we have met immigrants that are hell bent on changing us and our ways of life. WE don't like it. We don't care what the MSM think, we don't care what the likes of Elmasry think, and we don't really care what the bleeding hearts think and we are fed up with political correctness.

In just my family alone we live multiculturalsm, not just talk about it. Over that past 20 years we have welcomed into our family a Pakistani Muslim, a Chinese 1st generation Canadian Bhuddist, first generation Greek Orthodox - all mixed up in a Roman Catholic family. We all respect each other and we do not try to change the other. In other words - we are all Canadian living under a family unit.

When in Rome you do as the Romans do. We did not leave Canada and immigrate to the mid east. These folks moved here. I am afraid the Romans have had enough and our newcomers are just beginning to realize this. The silent majority are losing their patience and good nature and it would be smart of the likes of Elmasry to pull his head out of his butt and take notice.

Dolly

Posted by: dolly at July 22, 2008 11:03 AM

"all this peopel wrote garbage dirty thing about Islam Muslim"

Isam, haye, etc. doesn't just have a writing problem, he obviously has a reading problem. It was your child raping, mass-murdering prophet who "wrote garbage dirty thing." It's called the Quran, Hadith and Sira. You should try opening your eyes the next time while reading. It works.

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Judging from the polls and comment threads - and despite their outright lies and treasonous spin, it appears the CBC, Star and illiberal party aren't doing too well selling pity for the murderous traitor.

Posted by: irwin daisy at July 22, 2008 11:49 AM

I'm not sure that's how CBC tv will run with the story.

LOL

Posted by: dinosaur at July 22, 2008 12:32 PM

The CBC is allowing these unliberano comments only because they might be seeing the righting on the wall and they want to keep there jobs when the Conservatives take a majority. Don't for a second think there doing it for any other reason.

Posted by: FREE at July 22, 2008 1:07 PM

I had to laugh whilst watching Canada AM, the staff appear gob smacked that Canadians don't want him released and sent back to Canada. I guess the CBC assumed Canadians would forget that the liberals freed Daddy Dearest from Pakistan only to have him get a disability pension in Canada and that pension supported him as he played I'm a terrorist in the ME until he died. We paid for his terrorist lifestyle, I'll be damned if we'll do it for his evil off spring.

Isam, let me guess as part of your job interview with the HRC you have to role play at being a "Marginilized Muslim" on the net. Not working out so well is it, better luck next time setting up SDA for a section 13 complaint. We can smell you lads and lasses over our net lines.

Posted by: Rose at July 22, 2008 1:42 PM

DN

Your first two points wrt GC3 are accurate, I personally don't think he qualifies as a POW.

WRT your charge of treason in Canukistan I THINK your logic is flawed. Can a youth even be charged with treason?

With respect, it seems you are the only one on this blog that has the confidence that the Canuk justice system can dispense justice in this case. I vote for Afghan justice for a crime committed by a criminal in Afghanistan. If I had supreme power I WOULD NOT send a foreign criminal who murdered a Canadian in Canada anywhere until that person was tried, convicted and serve his/her punishment.

Posted by: Indiana Homez at July 22, 2008 2:44 PM

"Well. He can't seem to stop you and that pig Elmarys whatever(I prefer goatfu%^&er). C'mon by my place,you stupid English twit,and I will send you back to Mommy's basement with a Sharia beating!!!"

Be careful, Cartman was charged with a hate crime for fighting Token(Black kid). The moral of the story was: If you're going to fight someone they'd better be of the same race.

This is why I don't beat up Mozzi terrorist sympathizers, I prefer to lay a smack down on "cracker socialists". I'm pretty sure you will get the same satisfaction from bi%%h slapping some NDP'er or Lib cracker dude. If you cop a charge it will be a minor assault, not a hate crime; and, if you tell the officer he is a socialist pu**y I'm sure he'll let you go. A cracker pu$%y is much worse than a mozzie pu#$y because the mozzie doesn't know any better, whereas the cracker is a traitor to you country and a threat to your family.

Everybody! Pimp slap a socialist! It's fun, it's free and it's environmentally friendly!

I would like to suggest GWB's B-day for an international "Pimp Slap a Socialist Day".

Posted by: Indiana Homez at July 22, 2008 3:03 PM

What would be interesting would be the playing of the documentary of Khadr while he was being trained. I think it was on 60 Minutes. This is what the media should be telling Canadians about how he has no respect for the country that gave him freedoms and his desire to kill us. They probably told him to say; "I have no hands, feet or eyes" while being questioned - even though he does have them.

A good site to see is:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

It is not fear mongering, but facts about the extremist of Islam. Be sure to read “Our Statement on Muslims (and Islam)”

There are countless good hard working Muslims in Canada and it is to bad they are painted with the same brush as those who desire us to become Muslim or death. I do not believe they [Muslims] are all "anti-freedom" Canadians, but the extremists should go back to a country that has their same ideas.

Remember, the LIEberals - also DeYawn - could have done things differently while in power, yet now this is just another mess that the Cons have o fix up.

The MSM should be ashamed about the way they treat this terrorist. Especially out of my tax dollar funded CBC who fears the Conservative majority because they might cut their funding by 3/4 [if I were PM] and they would have to get advertisers like the rest of Canadian radio/television networks. Just about 2 billion per year - I think - and nothing on news about the good the Conservative government has done.


Posted by: Clown Party of Canada at July 22, 2008 3:59 PM

As I recieved so many welcome back I decided to come back and say thank you for your all of you kindness but some need to say to this subject
'I am sick of miniority runing this country..'

it said in above comment:


being minority is not always is bad thing

the most smart people in world are in minority

the good best honest people are in minority

real religion who do love god and their heart are close to god are in miniroty

peopel who do less mistake are in minority

therefore being majority is not always give you key to be successfull and give your full right or even always you may be right
becuase smart are in minority even good leader and good manager are in minority good jduges are in miniority

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anybody as candian citizen has rihgt we are not guest in Canada we are not even torist in Canada who came in Hotel Canada then miniority has right to ask their demand not all may accpeted

you are mistaken if you think have you in majorit of relgion can stop otehr to not evne talk or defend themsleve and you like to close your ears not hear any different thsi si not up to you.

this is not your house alone that think Muslim Canadain are guest here and has no right to talk or demand

plus majority Muslim came in Canada when Canda are not fighting Muslim if Canda rather then fight bad peopel fifht Muslim then Muslim must move out and find new place to live no problems we did once we can adopt again while your act is illegal by your law to even force say you are out or in this is not up to you at all

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second if you were in war zone taht most canadian watch TV in war zone except few number of canadain army who may know what i am talking about

when war start nothing can do
the point we must prevent war
and when war start what civilan in that countries most do is to leave the countires that is not have choice to stay if they stay there is risk to die unfaitly for poltici or power or money or hate crime or else
and finaly how to stop the war and let

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when war start two groups armies are kill each others and civilna for both group are say horraa to their soldures in most cases
even hitler german say Hi hitelr and obey him as his soldure and so many german was watching Hitler did not say a word and support him
even Samad peopel who live today in Iraq not the majority left the coutnriees for a years those group stay with Sadam is also did not do anything to stop him eitehr scared or love him or do not care

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when war start soludre kill each oteh in masive way too many at once may die if war zoen anybody capture condier as priosn of war and they will keep them until war can stop
nobody can kill soldure captre in war while Samda kill them
being torture also some thing obvious they do torture them to take their news from them all countires do that

Now my point is this if tehy capture the soldure and that soludre left his son who is not mature or adult if he or she got capture they have to see what is link or if he not wear cloth of army he or she need trail and find new direciton if he or she is nto guilty

like ben Laden family should not suffer if US look for Ben Laden if they are not involve but can be under security for maybe ban ladnen contact them in war time mostly people do not contrac their fmaily know there will bring risk to th eir family
even Sadm send his wife out of Iraq
if he capture and his father killed few years later
tbne is he is not terrorist heis may be son of one soldure afgani who fight US this is differnt story
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again I am disagree with war since jsutice is not done both are kill each otehr and if you see picture of Khadr few men also walk behind him why not you arrest them in back as well
that is reason when they capture soldure of war they do not allow to kill tem just have ot wait to war start or swithc them by UN regulation
why because both are kill eacht other for differjnt opinions
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Case of Khadr I am not know detail may be nodoby know detial since 6 year all docuemtn may destroyed

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Now how people defend themselves

this is unfiar but true

when both partis are fighting and both parties killing each other with all tools in war zone

civilina are second most target and soludre are primary

in war you saying Ifagnai are involve killing Sep 11 and tehy say no tehy are nto they may involve otehr illgal act but not invlve in sep 11 therefore if you go to one house and capture any Canadian for murder case or for drug case is two differne case is murder and killing is more crime in compare of stealing and drugs

I heare El_mesay said he said you are fighting and war zone both drop something to kill each oter and one may put bomb to suide person to go and kill otehrs the suide bomber think he is only the same bomb you drop to to arab except the no engine of areo plane means arab people use person to act like bomb areoplane and whiel both are for my opion are wrong but you have consider both are in war zone
then we must firs stop teh war in order to stop both sides kill each toerh how to kill each oteh in war zone is question tehy do kill and they do kill messive number which is for me is wrong
if you each person do mistake you brng them to cirminal and with document to put them in jail when both parties soldure aer kill each otehr you can not blam to soldure you have to blame to govmeent of bothe coutreis nto find better way tos top the war

then stop the war first
resolve all probme and increase police force
tehn capture indididual for their own guilt and with trial then this is more justice
war take indiducla justice out of your hand

you seat and soem one say bomb come and your all freidn in next street eating food are killed this is hard news but waht you can do when you are in war zone

then if you are smart you get out of war zone if you are not millitery people to jsut survive that is reason most Candan Muslim to canada in past 15 years was war zone not for fun and hear other hate crime and otehr way to botehr Muslim again using tgheir relgiion or their colore or wher they come from to get botehr

plust if US tried to kill Iraqi and Ifgani for criem they happend by hand of american not Muslim then this is mostly peopel defend themselove saying that was not did that crime while may those afgani are involve drugs
whos know may Khadr rich fathe was involve drugs and stealing night theifs as most Afgani are talking about it but agian if his father was guilty you have to let this boy get mature he is now 21 years old and not wish to even go to his father

IS khadr has choice not stay with his father or his fther freind in age 15 defintly not his father made him to this stage not him he has not choice he was kid in that period and listne to his father but he is now mature enought to know it we need to distintguish in justice who is guilty and how much guilty to punsih him not jump to conclusin with not documents

Plus look all jerks comment from you people about Muslim just go and read you read it defintly you are not have sense of judgment at all

why should some one start war not get the person in power to do in court made UN court adn ask cerain leader to anser and again going to certian region of you do not knwo liek their relgion is out of question again politic in Canda aslo trie dto feed Canadian for them stay longer in Afganitan in war zone is Isalm was issue whiel Islam was not on trial people who do kill each otehr under name of war are in trial

when is war zone the Elmary tried to say peopel above 18 condier as mature who they support and there is no differnce for them to recive bomb form Isreali verses Arab suiidncer go and blow up themselve for the same purpsoe of send bomb to that place both do killing each other is war is fair? No is killing with those equipment is terrified peopel Yes but in war zone can one say one group is Terrorist and otehr are killing htem nicely No! the blame is governmetna and people who creat those not the soldure in this war I do not like war since you donot face trial for one for one you have unfair army trial which is meaning less to me

good bye you all welcome for your hate crime increased by your gosips

I loved to go back to my countreis and I do nto need any donation for ticket I am rich enough to do that problmes is we are looser of both after long back we can not call ourslelve canadian and we can not call ourselve the coutnreis we born since we were away so long not know all changes taht is reason most muslim canaian strugle to keep it here and find more fair legal freedom to live and not get botehr again and not face new midle east made in Cnada with new civil war in canada againt us we already left one war and not like any war again

my conclusion for you peopel above comment this is hard for muslim Candain to change some racist view in Canada because their heart is sick
every body like to get loved and liked but not wish otehr person wish for they be kill them thsi is horrible dreams but who can change this socity are Candain in mixture and more fair law

stop the war and find better solution adn thank for welcome me back and like to donate me to stay more longer here! you are so funny to me

Posted by: Isam at July 22, 2008 4:01 PM

"we already left one war and not like any war again"

Well, that's unfortunate, but given strict adherence to your Islamic ideology you're part of a perpetual state of war. Afterall, for criminal purposes of theft, rape, murder and conquest, it is your 'religion' Islam that divides the world into dar al Islam and dar al Harb - the house of war - isn't it?

If you don't like war, then renounce the religion of war and it's war criminal prophet.

Posted by: irwin daisy at July 22, 2008 4:30 PM

criminal is the person who kill and start first

criminal words is not used for Muslim person who defence criminal who plan to kill them or abuse them and if you Irwin are try to say Moses who I know you sound jewish is better and you have allow use Moses name and kill anybody is criminla war

who attack Iran was Iraqi
who atack Kewiti? Iraqi
who kill Muslim in Palasteni first? Isreali
who attack Iraq government? USA
who destroy tower in Sep 11 and Oklanham city bombing and Heloshima nuclear war at first? American
who did start german war? germans and Hitler


then who ever start is annouced criminal not the person who defend tehmselves

you are wrong

plus it apprentl Canda wnet to fight crime
not to put Islam in trial

you really ignorate Irwin I noticed you intentionaly lied and say all wrong and gossip about Muslim an Isalm in Canda because you are racist nd discrimination against Muslim

we do not need your sorry we Mulsim Candain know how to take caring of ourselves

do not forget Canda are not have too many while they have few smart population Canda import smart out of canada who need smart who work in Canada
therefore Mslim canadain are smart becuase we are good people and we carry good background and we have experince and we know it all those dirty game and we know how to stop all racist group in canada or at least inform them to change their view

we can not acct very bad to Candain since medai is corruted or not know the facts yet and still upgrad and educational process for Muslim in canada

do not forget Muslim candcain are minority but they are smart enogh to direct majroity of Canadian how to not reapet mistake we saw
it

I was in war zone and I saw how people can die and notobyd even mercy the civilan in any way and not care about it was not your best freind or it was your teacher or it was yoru neighbor

having experince Muslim canadian carry and their adive as miniroty can direct majorty do not repeart the history and how to come out of war soon stop the war an stop gossip Islam in trial
because canda need smart miniorty imported to canada to save them and made here more secure

Posted by: Isam at July 22, 2008 4:43 PM

this Isam guy has diarrhea of the mouth. He is dirtying up this web site. Any chance he can be put on ignore. Where is the ignore button?

Posted by: dolly at July 22, 2008 5:13 PM

isam?
Ok..I surrender..enough with your awful grammar.I'll eat halal, anything for that matter.Just stop jihading our language.

Posted by: cliffwasfrommontreal at July 22, 2008 5:44 PM

I'm shocked anyone reads this guy's stuff, I start scrolling after the first few lines.

Posted by: Indiana Homez at July 22, 2008 6:00 PM

Isam, you are way too over the top to be the real deal - nothing but a troll and your pathetic and completely obvious attempts to goad are amateur and juvenile.

I urge everyone to completely disregard this poster (or, more accurately, im-poster).

Posted by: Seachange at July 22, 2008 6:21 PM

"Elmasry gets a psuedo op-ed with the CBC."

But that can't be. According to Elmo himself, Muslim voices are silenced in Cdn. media. Therefore, this op-ed never appeared.

Posted by: Kathryn at July 22, 2008 7:14 PM

I think Isam is a HRC representative and trying to stair up hatred.

He spells like a HRC fellow - the Muslim's I know can spell and speak better than DeYawn, or any other LIEberal.

Yep, Isam, [or should I say HRC rep] you can continue to try to make sense here, but we know all you want is to incite hatred where there is none.

Go back to your HRC office and decide on another name - I am quite sure we can pick you out.

You can go home now, it has been a long day for you. [Do we tax payers pay you for overtime?]

You remind me of those two police officers that tried to cause a riot, but were spotted - and it took one person to spot them, and stop them from sarting a riot, and they finally surrendered to fellow police officers because their plan failed. {I wonder if they were charged?]

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If you are from another country, and not from the HRC, how long were you in Canada?

You said, " I loved to go back to my countreis and I do nto need any donation for ticket I am rich enough to do that problmes is we are looser of both after long back we can not call ourslelve canadian and we can not call ourselve the coutnreis we born since we were away so long not know all changes taht is reason most muslim canaian strugle to keep it here and find more fair legal freedom to live and not get botehr again and not face new midle east made in Cnada with new civil war in canada againt us we already left one war and not like any war again"

I wish you would at least learn to spell Canada, since you claim to have lived here for years – as I read it. It is spelled easy for you: Ca na da You only need to know four letters - how easy can it be.

Translation – as best I can make sense of your comment:

“I’d like to go back to my country, and I do not need any donation for tickets, I am rich enough to do that. The problem is, we are looser of both [countries????] We can’t call ourselves Canadian, and we can not call ourselves [what ever country you came from] where we were born in since we were away for a long time. We do not know all the changes [in old country], that is why most Canadian Muslim’s struggle to stay here and find a fair legal [system] freedoms, and to live free [bothered]. We do not want to face the new Middle East, which Canada is making with new civil war against us. We already left one war, and we do not want another war again.”

My comments:

If you have the money, go home, you're rich. You will not be a looser in your original country, since you love your laws above Canadian laws. You can’t call yourself Canadian – do you have citizenship? And yet you say you can’t call yourself an [whatever country you came from] because you were away for so long. Then you should accept our Canadian laws. Was your life threatened by your fellow citizens? I wonder why? You complain about our legal system because we are not as a violent as your former country? You do not seem to like the way your country [not Canada] is being set free. You left a war zone, to peaceful Canada, and you should not complain about your freedoms here. Go back to your old country if you love it more than Canada.

Yoy sould be happy to know that you DO NOT speak for the Muslims I know and respect. They work hard, pay taxes, and enjoy the freedoms we have here in Canada.

Posted by: Clown Party of Canada at July 22, 2008 8:18 PM

Clown Party....please don't argue or otherwise acknowledge SDA's resident wanna be jihadist. It just encourages the infantile child. Ignore it like the rest of us and you will be happier. As for your previous comment..."There are countless good hard working Muslims in Canada and it is to bad they are painted with the same brush as those who desire us to become Muslim or death." I humbly disagree. It is THEIR fault they are painted with the same brush. How can it be bad,when they bring it on themselves? I am just a little tired of hearing from all the self-apologizing supporters of Islam who keep saying the "good" ones are just afraid to stand up against the radicals. NO. The "good" ones damn well stand up and take a stand against BS. Remember, if you give up freedom for safety, you deserve neither. Too many far,far better people then you and me died to give us our freedom here now. Don't let ennui and a false sense of "pity" take it away.

Posted by: Justthinkin at July 22, 2008 9:20 PM

Clown Party of Canada - my first choice of who's the man behind the curtain and his motives has long been a suspicion that Isam and his ever changing moniker is pure entertainment for some sick mind.

He's best ignored.

Posted by: penny at July 22, 2008 9:23 PM

Clown

We all slip now and then, but "don't argue with fools".

JUSTHINKIN

I agree with you about "good" mozzies. I do not doubt for one moment that fear of reparations from "bad" mozzies is real; but, that is no excuse. To idly ignore evil allows that evil to pray on the weak and fester; therefore, apathy toward evil is evil in itself.

Posted by: Indiana Homez at July 23, 2008 11:59 AM

I say if they want to bring in Sharia Law then bring it on! First we'll try Khadr according to Sharia! He's guilty of murder, so off with his head in the public square! Then we'll move on to Elmasry...

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