Don't you worry, the media will bury this contradiction so that as few voters as possible ever hear about it.

They will, however, repeat his lies often enough to fool the people into believing them.

And even the late-night comics are refusing to make jokes about the guy.

Now that the civil war has all but ended,
I wish. What the surge has done is create a pause to regroup and do some planning. The main reason things are relatively quiet is that the 3 main players are kept seperated . Now it's a waiting game to see who gets elected.If Obama gets in the waiting game will continue until he pulls out enough troops. If the Republicans win it , I would expect the lid to blow off within 30 days of the election. They have infinite patience and life is cheap. Time will tell.

Just watched an item on CNN with Obama where he did, in fact, propose withdrawing troops from Iraq and placing them in Afghanistan.

Truly an amazing chamelion.

Oh, he is so guided by principles. Not.

Is someone so wobbly less or more likely to be bought and sold? I have my opinion...

Peter J. What evidence do you have to back you claims of a "surge pause" besides your own opinion, which, from what I read, doesn't mean much, if anything.

His idealist young supporters will notice and wonder...

I wonder if he even knows he is lying, if he is changing facts to suit circumstances, if he actually can tell truth from his current fiction ?

Probably not.

If peter j's theory was right they would not be pausing right now as a surge in violence would be beneficial to BO who is the guy the evil ones want to win in Nov.

Come on you guys. The 21st Century's Messiah is running on a platform of CHANGE.

So, of course, he CHANGES his positions; he is running on CHANGE. There is NO contradiction: CHANGE is CHANGE - what don't you get? If Saint BO did NOT change his positions, he would be contradicting his Holy platform. By CHANGING his positions the 21st Century's Messiah is being CONSISTENT.

PeterJ, please put or shut up: provide even one good reason why YOUR opinion on the effectiveness of a counterinsurgency strategy is a better one than that of David Petraeus, who literally wrote the book on the subject and is the best military mind to come out of West Point since Eisenhower.

Dave J:

Eisenhower was pretty good but this guy I would argue was better and was also Petraeus' mentor.

3W en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creighton_Abrams

Secretary of State Dr. Condoleezza Rice
is a balck woman and at first got so much fun over her color and questioning her background

Later she able to do some more communication with middle east not the best but at least better than previous secretary

because Rice and similare character may getting opening people like Obama but still there is no gurantee he is the presidnet for USA
and no grurantt he can be honest and not lied like other president of USA because US socity is corrupted and has so many illegal conpiracy to it

but Obama differene may made him get closer to otehr world international because lack of USA is communication outside USA
nobody listen to AMerican and they are not understand

again if Obma go and lie so much he loose it all his credit if he beahve like Black culure movie characte we saw in film to make himslef joke to socity

while I trust so many black good one exist still media try to show blak are blang blang and dimond lover and love of music and shake budy and love woman and druge and jail and hate police and law and or jokers in movies or act dummy have you ever see smart charter like Mr. D. Washington is more serious try to show he is smart again may beause he has more look nicer black if black are ugly is not going to take high poistion which is wrong idology in USA
american black has not self confidence when they are talking English put them down

I notied when I write wrong English some hate me too but I do not care about you will used to people not know Englis well able to bring their view up too who said English people are smarter than nonEnglish speakers only thier media said that nobody else belive this at all
I am not anti Englsih I have so many english freind but I am not buying all their view of they are higer than otehr human being

may be colour and difference of Obama can resolve west and USA with middle east and let middle East stay in peace we hope

English culuture some thing wrong and so cold

never middle eastern fall in love with any english peopel or like to be freind with them except work in job because they are different and they act like has no heart in their body

while ouside of England and USA and Canada and Austrila I mean out side of majority live English in power they are more show emotion and act different

For example middle easter think why you go to beach and walk naked orhalf naked what the good to do this or benefit to behave and keep this culture proudly

or so many culture

are English are talk less and look polite in act they are very angry peopel and their anger is under their skin and if Ensligh got angry becuse not listne to them nobody can stop them except put war over head of other nations

I think different of Obama verses McCain may be open new culture and fix English origianl back groun live in USA with full discrimination

they think their color and their language give them medal must stay in power even if they are wrong to lead tehr rest of world

the guy Charles MacDonald in recent previous reader tips saying so racist talk about Afganistn we do built house and we do built the madresseh

so what Afgani are Muslim then what do you expect to build the church more over there in Afganistan that is so rdiciculs this peopel going to Afganist with this mentaliy to work there or help them I do not think so

Let me correct my view:
In Islam are not say white is better than black or vice versa In Isalm nobody are highe becaue has more money in pocket or nobody are better than other person has more education
if the person is criminal you can have all good and one crime druge and killing innocnet wipe all your goods for ever
then who is better than other who their heart is close to god

therefore I am not seeing Obama is better than McCaian becauise of black I am saying he is differnet and may his differnece welocme people able to talk to him since black Americna culture are lie so much but different than white Englsih lies

if BLack like some one never do against freind but englsih culture for money and power can put down all tower of call it sep 11 to blame and do so much conpiracy and slander in their culture

whiel blakc has bad culture of drugs and so many blang blang of love of gold and dioman and bank rubery and love of money and woman in their weakness as well that Obma must proof he is not blong to that culture

if presidnet of USA act more smarter in future election I do not care who win really I donot like none of president personaly if they act in their foreing policy better Canada can get more benfit as neighbor of USA that is I care about US presidnet act to more clear and not repeat whta previous one did in past

I do not like English look polit but not act polite culture I like if you look polite your act be similare not two faces
I hate english culture are so calm too

something is not for sale unless you put high price more money on it nobody able to buy it that is humuniaty and act like human in politic politican loose face are not act like human or care about their citizen only care about their salary and their power and money not human right

som times I feel human trafficting and selling people right for win the war nad money and power is that worth it
who can be ever wished to be president in this corrupted inernational socity unless able to fix it or make it worst than before I hope not

What was that idiot troll's name who pretended to be a muzzie but wasn't? He's back as new.

Anyone have enough time to waste reading beyond the first 2 lines?

Obama changes his position on issues so often that no one (I suspect even himself) has the least idea of where he really stands on a given issue.

terrence at 7:42 PM:

You had the right thought but you didn't take it far enough:

"No, a change is a change. What kind of a change? It's a change. A change is a change, and when you have a good change, it's because it's changed.”

The risk BO is running is being labelled a black John Kerry.

Lots of ad ammo for the GOP in what BO is saying vs what he said and his voting record has hardly been discussed as of late. An example is his voting for partial birth abortions.

It was supposed to be changing the World not his opinion!

He has more flip flops than a Miami beach (or John Kerry)!

God help us if this guy Obama wins the election. Guy doesn't have the first clue about anything foreign policy or military. The last line I heard from him was that on day one he would call the Joint Chiefs into the oval office and give them new orders to end the war. There's only one problem with that and thats that the Joint Chiefs of Staff have no authority to command any forces, they only to advise the president. I quite honestly wouldn't expect average folk to know that kind of detail, but if you're going to run for President, the Commander in Chief maybe you should know how to command. The more Obama opens his mouth, the more likely McCain will win.

Shamrock/ Dave.......My reasoning is this. The insurgents know that they can not go head to head with our troops and when the surge came all they could do is pull back. They are well aware of the political situation at home and are in no rush.They believe that the surge is a temporary measure and that political pressure will eventually force the drawdown of our troops. General Petraeus is right on when he says the surge is working. He would probably be the first to tell you that everything will fall apart if our troops cut strength. Put yourself in the enemies shoes, if Obama wins , the troops will be pulled back. If McCain wins the war gets back up to full steam.It's worth the wait. Until then you plan and train. I am only giving my opinion. I hope I'm wrong.

The AP (and its member companies) should immediately fire everyone involved with this, develop a program to prevent this snuff "journalism" in the future, and publish an apology.

Somehow I doubt that any of those things will happen. The press is just as sick, twisted, and yellow as it was at the turn of the last century.

whoops, posted in the wrong comment box!

Shamrock/ Dave.......My reasoning is this. The insurgents know that they can not go head to head with our troops and when the surge came all they could do is pull back.

peterj

Inform your opinion with some facts. The Mahdi army couldn't hold Basrah from being liberated and pacified by the Iraqi army. And it took less than a month. This was the reality even though the MSM's headlines proclaimed the operation as a falure from the outset.

In a New York Times op-ed laying out his position

Shouldn't that be "lying out his position", or, even more accurately, "positioning out his lies"?

NEW

After about the 4th or 5th word it is clear who is speaking and I scroll to the next comment. I suggest you make your points more concise(less than 1 paragraph) and perhaps then I will read your comments and perhaps ponder your view. As it stands now your posts bunk and I doubt anyone is reading them. Why waste your time?

"Politically, Obama has to notionally support defeating al-Qaeda in Iraq, so even after he’s executed his 16-month withdrawal, he says there will be a “residual force” of American troops to take on “remnants of al-Qaida.” How can he be so sure there will only be “remnants”?"

This is a no brainier. In Democratic primary debates B.O. stated that after the removal of American troops if the insurgents in Iraq reappeared he would simply send the troops back to Iraq. Is there anything Obama can't do?

Terry Gain..........Exactly what I said.We reclaimed Basrah in short order because the Mahdi army could not go head to head with coalition forces.