If I could take Antonia Zerbisias with me.
Posted by Kate at July 5, 2008 10:22 AMSo the "newspaper" that allowed columnist Slinger to opine that Adolf would have voted for the Canadian Alliance and Stockwell Day thinks that screaming "Hitler!" at political/philosophical opponents happens too often nowadays. I'm touched. No, really, I am.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 5, 2008 10:49 AM*
it'll never get published at the red star... but here's the comment
i left for urban zerban...
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Hey, Zerb... nice friends you have... remember Canadian Cynic's
message to Wanda Watkins, whose son Lane was killed in
Afghanistan?
"With all due respect, Wanda, f@ck you and your grief.
It's not the job of the rest of Canada to continue to let its
soldiers die just so you can sleep better at night."
>>>
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"urban zerban" is obviously 14 years old or a moron . Enough rope...
Posted by: PiperPaul at July 5, 2008 12:10 PMAntonia is an idiot...the fact she has identified Canadian Cynic as one her favorite blogs says a lot. Raphael exposes himself as a moron again with his half-baked pseudo-intellectual drivel.
Posted by: Paul at July 5, 2008 12:10 PMShe links to Canadian Cynic? That right there says about all that needs saying. That guy is the slime that grows on the shite that gets scraped off the bottom of the barrel. Eew.
Beyond that, Hitler would be voting Liberal if he were honest with himself. They're his ideological inheritors.
Offering up as evidence (yeah, evidence Lefty retards, look it up eh?) actual real things done by Liberals. Lately.
Exhibit A, the gun registry which is straight out of 1930's Nazi Germany. They -invented it-.
Exhibit B, the CHRC and provincial blisters thereof. Another Nazi invention, using legislation meant to protect the victims of society to crush your political enemies. Worked great until the B-17s started burning Berlin down around their ears.
Antonia is a Big Lie propagandist of the Goebbels School. I don't buy your paper Antonia, and neither do most people. Enjoy unemployment, ducky.
BTW, for all the banned trolls of Canadian Cynic, howdy! Too bad you can't tell me off here, what with being banned and all.
Neener neener neeeeen-er! :p....!
Rest assured I will NOT be reading the frothing poison at CC, and you can check your friggin' logs to be sure.
But hey, feel free to vituperate over at my soapbox. It'll be fun to erase and ban you there too. Kinda cleansing, know what I mean?
Posted by: The Phantom at July 5, 2008 12:11 PMPhantom:
Mark Steyn correctly points out that the equivalent of the HRC's were already in place in Weirmacht Germany.
Hitler merely used its mechanisms to crush his political opponents.
I believe Steyn's version of history, since he is the one right in the middle of the battle.
Posted by: set you free at July 5, 2008 12:22 PMWhoops, just read the article. the nuclear family where the wife/mother stayed at home was a psychological, if not physical, prison
Generalized broad sweep at mothers/wives that don't work. Nice. Then again, given Oprah's popularity with a certain demographic, it's hard to say that that group isn't easily led for the cause du jour. And it's advertising dollars that drives this - care to calculate how many billions are spent each year on cosmetics so that teeth are whiter than white and "feeling fresh down there"?
Posted by: PiperPaul at July 5, 2008 12:26 PMSYF, yes its true, the Wiemar Republic set up those laws, and the Nazis used the convenient infrastructure to extirpate their political opponents and kill 6 million Jews plus diverse others.
Isn't that what I said?
Posted by: The Phantom at July 5, 2008 12:34 PMShe is exhibiting evidence of a mental disorder.
Either that, or she's an idiot.
Posted by: grok at July 5, 2008 12:52 PM"Say, isn't feminism responsible for women getting the vote?"
No.
"In Canada, the Women’s Christian Temperance Union was a leading voice in the battle for the vote. The Temperance Union and other women’s groups wanted to bring about social reforms such as the ban of alcohol."
I don't believe the Canadian women that worked so hard to obtain the vote would be in agreement with today's feminists whose greatest concern is abortion access, which Coulter rightly describes as: "the right for women to have sex with men that they don't want to have children with".
Quite frankly she is just behaving in an ab"Zerb" manner.
She is historically challenged and probably a candidate for the disability tax credit; as she is markedly restricted in the mental functions necessary for everyday life.
http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/E/pbg/tf/t2201/t2201-fill-07e.pdf
Someone should get her doctor to fill out this form. Maybe Mr. Morgentaler can help her.
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
Frankenstein Battalion
2nd Squadron: Ulanen-(Lancers) Regiment Großherzog Friedrich von Baden(Rheinisches) Nr.7(Saarbrucken)
Knecht Rupprecht Division
Hans Corps
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
Zerb is just your average blousy, menopausal single white female, now too old and overweight to attract men, and so she's embittered by the happiness of younger women with husbands and kids.
Sometimes life really IS just "high school with money."
Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at July 5, 2008 2:11 PMOMG Kathy, that is SO it. High school with money, gawd.
I say that all the frackin' time about hospital management. Never encountered such a cliquey gaggle of graying overweight ex-cheeleaders before. They organise the hospital like a bunch of 17 year old girls setting up the prom.
Guess its the same over at the Toronto (Red) Star. Buncha no-talent jerkoffs in pink gotchees ruining another Canadian institution.
Can't somebody come up with a disease these people could catch? There's got to be a way. Maybe fatal foot rot that can transmit only to those wearing Birkenstocks with socks on?
Posted by: The Phantom at July 5, 2008 2:46 PMActually, electrical engineering is
responsible for liberating females.
Dang, she's a sanctimonious hag.
She only wished someone would be brave enough to impregnate her, but those days are thankfully long past.
Posted by: Soccermom at July 5, 2008 2:59 PMMy god, is that idiot still writing ? how embarrassing for Toronto.
She is just a sad old woman who never had kids of her own, and now regrets it.
I'm sure you'll think this is just silly internet superstition, but the legend says if you post about "zerb" often enough....she'll appear.
Vit,also plastics and by extension,dirty oil.
Posted by: Bernie at July 5, 2008 3:34 PMMy God, the woman is a piece of work. She just can't rope together with coherence or the right metaphors all of the half-baked lefty twit thoughts she's ingested over the years. That she is gainfully employed undermines all of us in mental health that plead with our patients to stay on their meds.
Years ago she made a cameo appearance on the comments at LittleGreenFootballs, they were mocking her, maybe it's archived, needless to say hilarity ensued.
And, they wonder on Planet Newspaper why we've cancelled subscriptions, mock them with abandon and if our kids casually throw out that they might like to be a journalist respond with "you're too smart for that".
Posted by: penny at July 5, 2008 4:55 PM"Sometimes life really IS just "high school with money."
I'm still laughing over that comment, it's so darn close to the truth.
Posted by: Mugs at July 5, 2008 5:42 PMUggh!
This is exactly why I think conservative women are HOT! If I had to live with a retard 27/7 I think I would put myself out of my misery.
Kathy hit the nail,again,on the head. But then again I feel(whooppssieee,my Fruedian slip showing?)...errrrr....know that for leftards,it's a case of elementary school and money.
Posted by: Justthinkin at July 5, 2008 7:32 PMI feel I can mouth off about this subject with some authority because I more or less have my information from Zerb herself, albeit obliquely.
Last year, she actually wrote about how her and a lefty male blogger spent their Saturday afternoon casing Lord Black's house. I'm not kidding. They purposely spent a beautiful Toronto day creeping around his Rosedale mansion, for reasons that weren't clear to me then, let alone now. She wasn't even sleeping with the male blogger (who is very much her junior); while her actions would still have been asinine, one could maybe understand them if she was under some sort of erotic thrall.
I expressed my contempt etc for her behaviour. She responded with a flurry of tiresome cliches about how she didn't need a man to be happy, was just thrilled to be single etc.
(This rather contradicted her public behaviour, since I'd witnessed her at one blog event trolling, drunk, desperate and cougar like, for some poor male victim.)
Her tone was so defensive and shallow I had to laugh. "Hope your special anniversary edition of An Unmarried Woman keeps you warm at night when you're 80" I replied.
I am married, a published author and a size 8. Zerb is none of those things, but she IS a columnist for the Toronto Star and I haven't been for some time.
I still think I got the better part of the bargain.
Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at July 5, 2008 7:38 PMNow, now, Vitruvius - let's share the blame: That the follies of feminism are more than a passing social fancy is due to an energy-intensive high-tech nanny riding a strong growth curve.
Posted by: Tenebris at July 5, 2008 7:40 PMJustthinkin - leftards are formed on elementary school playgrounds, you know the brats that call foul if they are losing, run to teacher to stop the game, and, then go home and narcissistic mom with no grown-up boundaries to draw upon eases their pain by agreeing it was all so unfair, they are so special.
Diana West on the death of grown-ups:
Recall the academic “culture wars” of the 1980s and 1990s — a struggle that was, in large part, a war over cultural identity. Were we going to remain heirs to the Western canon, or become children of a multicultural world? Because that question was asked of a post-grown-up society exhibiting classic symptoms of “identity crisis,” the winning answer came decisively from the multicultural Left.
I didn’t realize the full extent of that victory until much later, beginning on 9/11, when the Multicultural States of America—a nation that had taught itself to believe, for example, that the complete works of Alice Walker and William Shakespeare were interchangeable, offering equal enlightenment and meriting equal study (giving Shakespeare the benefit of the doubt) — came under cataclysmic attack. Was it a real war, this time, not a culture war … or was it a real culture war?
And, there you have it.
Posted by: penny at July 5, 2008 7:54 PMI tempted to ask, Tenebris: what blame would that be? But I'm not going to, because blog comments are not the place for learned essays, and, frankly, I'd rather see a cat-fight between Zerbisias and Shaidle. That I'd kill a bottle of champagne for. Two bottles, if you would like one.
Posted by: Vitruvius at July 5, 2008 8:19 PMI thought we were having white babies so our daughters can be raped by muslim savages in Europe for not wearing a viel. Does that make you happier now Antonia?
http://frum.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YTBmZGY0Nzg1MjVhMGRkODc4NDdmNmJmNzYxNmVhOGM=
Posted by: Shawn at July 5, 2008 8:33 PMI've got my money on Shaidle, 9 out of 10 five foot catholic chicks can mop the floor with 180 pound lefthink progressive womyn 19 times out of 20.
Of course the margin of error is plus or minus 3%.
Syncro
Posted by: Syncrodox at July 5, 2008 8:55 PM"""""I'd rather see a cat-fight between Zerbisias and Shaidle."""""
I'd pay to see that:-))))
me thinks 4'11" would kick sum serious a$$:-))))
Every once in awhile the thin veneer of civility is peeled off a society and things get very rough for the timid (women and lightly sandaled men). Suddenly women will looking around for kind, strong, conservative real men to protect them. That is also when the women's movement will be more of a bowel movement.
When men start to behave like women, women start to behave like men. That is what has happened here.
Posted by: John V at July 5, 2008 9:15 PMAuntie Zerbert must make young women cringe. All the ones I deal with, which include a med. student, a commercial pilot, a budding archaeologist, and a psychologist; would think her a crank who's got her panties in a knot. They don't have time for Zerbert’s historical revisionist nonsense and hyperbole ... they're too busy building a life for themselves.
Posted by: Paul at July 5, 2008 10:25 PMuh...la shaidle ?....at the risk of lese majeste' i believe it's 'blowzy'..or 'blowsy' p'raps...
Posted by: john begley at July 5, 2008 10:48 PMAccording to Zerbesias, keeping the world friendly for fat libertines is the most important political struggle of our time, so you'd think she would have some appreciation for all those "white babies" born 40, 80, 200, 400 years ago whose faith and philosophy and personal habits created those freedoms which allow such a self-absorbed twit as herself to take such liberties.
She doesn't have to appreciate what we white people have done for her, that's her business. What really concerns me is, I don't think a non-white like Zerbesias has a write to pen sneering articles titled "Hitler would have loved your pretty white babies". If she hates white babies so much, perhaps simply because they are of a different race than she, which other cultural representatives does she wish would populate this country? It's reasonable to surmise that -- excepting parts of the Caribbean at the height of tourist season -- a lot of cultures around the world wouldn't much appreciate Miss Z's lifestyle. So why would she ignore the colossal, long-term cultural issues pertaining to the outsourcing of our neighbours, judges and politicians, and why would she attack white babies?
"Hitler would have loved your pretty white babies" -- I have never seen such a cynical and ugly and bitter headline written by a non-white and published in Canada. As a descendant of the Egypt/Syria/Greece triangle, Miss Z must surely know that inflaming racial hostilities does no one any good.
Excoriate your own kind's babies, Miss Zee; write sarcastic, nasty missives about how your cousin Ataturk would have loved them. But leave 8 lb. 7 oz. baby Benjamin Franklin, say, out of your vicious racist attacks.
Posted by: EBD at July 6, 2008 12:32 AMMy rambling post there, not sure if they will post it:
My wife (who’s not white by the way) was a successful lawyer, upon giving birth she decided that a career and raising children was counter productive. It was she that made the final choice, we downsized our spending habits to survive on one income. As for the article, everything stated about birth rates and immigration is true, just look at the stats. Also you will find that immigrants generally exceed replacement rates which is approx 2.5 kids per couple, I have 2, haven’t figured out how to do the .5 bit yet! Europe is already seeing the effects of a low domestic birthrate and the influx of immigrants. One of the problems with multi-culturism is that the “original” culture must remain dominant over the imported ones to maintain the ability for the others to co-exist. It’s a sad fact that the west is one of the few places that multiple races and religion live peacefully. In example Malaysia which is a Muslim country forbids the preaching of Shiitte beliefs, punishable with whipping and possibly death, in fact attempting to convert a Muslim there is a likelihood of punishment by jail or whipping.
As for the reference to Hitler, it is clear that his government did haul Germany out of crushing debt and inflation. Hitler was also highly concerned about family value, albeit for the wrong reasons. Hitler, Stalin and Mao all caused the deaths of millions (up to 100 million between the 3 of them) Yet they all enacted some polices and laws that had some beneficial aspects for a period of time.
As for “right-wingers” I grew up in a heavy NDP household with a father who was an MLA. Being around left wingers all my life cured me of any desire to be left wing, I find that people of socialist beliefs (and to be fair far rightwing types as well) are all to eager to curtail individual freedoms all for the “public good” of course.
Another interesting factoid, the US is the only Western country with a domestic birthrate that sustains it’s population, however the majority of births are in areas of strong social conservatism and areas of high liberal values the rates are well below replacement. Therefore Liberals are a evolutionary dead-end, except the wily critters have latched onto a way to multiple. They inhabit the education system and try to convert the young of all types to their beliefs in order to sustain themselves, rather like that wasp that injects self into unwilling hosts.
Funny thing...Antonia has been documenting her rabid anti-Semitism for eons and nobody said "boo". Suddenly, Antonia expresses her (unsurprisingly awful) "favourite" and it's someone who happens to be a few sandwiches short of a picnic, and people get "upset". HUH? Where HAVE you been?
Antonia Z is dumb-as-a-bag-of-hammers stupid. People like that with a soapbox are downright dangerous. That even a rag such as the Toronto Star publishes her vile meanderings amazes me...
We've all met an Antonia Z before... We all have mothers or sisters or brothers who have, in the past, numbered among their friends a truly ODIOUS piece of horrible stinking shite. You (we) looked on and wondered: "Can't Mom/Dad/Bro/Sis see what a horrible person so-and-so is?" Finally, something happenes and the penny drops, and So-and-So is cut off and never heard from again. Everyone heaves a sigh of relief.
Horrible, awful, dreadful, stupid, vicious and dangerous people actually exist - that's the first thing to come to terms with. Next is cutting them out of your life.
Cutting one's connection to shite like Antonia Z is easy. Don't read the birch, and write to The Toronto Stsar about the ecological waste of using paper-space to publish Antonia Z. Trees deserve better than that...
Posted by: Fashion Criminal at July 6, 2008 7:19 AMdo children need bad cartoon?
Do you belive justice need to go under politic saying htis company are big why politcialy we put them down this si not good for public
allow illgal to go and do more crime is justice or is politce or lawfull to do?
cartoon is language is used to communite in simple funny wya but can destrucitve and oofensive too and get in reverse result
brain wash and look children more stupid to smart
is Canaida kids is result of bad cartton and bad media and bad teacher and bad freinds and bad communitee ceneter and bad teacher who not act smart when theyare grow up who to blame goverment their family school frind all above said.
we have so many communityr center in Toronto with not direction and too many basktebal place may invovle gange or druges
not supervisor to chekc them out
no police standing to take look at children safty in free community center in down town toronto epscially
so many violance may start from there
is Hrc or in totla goverment hiring people and human resource are update is employee get enough money to put more time and afford to fix some issue in more justic way or say why I am employee of goverment put myself in too many problmes and bother otehr citizne I am myself discriminate Muslim why I do hlep pepple I liek them too and how about drop some case
in ground of politician
IS politican can groun any justice saying ok prince Willima not need to get arrest
politicaly is wrong
but arrest black children is ok they are nobody hawo about police do easy fishing not get big guy
Leo Schlesinger is producer of this cartoon
Is cartoon is language need to talk to children
is cartoon maker I heard some of lesbian and gays in wal-disney studio and affect recent
viloence, sex and screwww up brain of childrne
can cartoon use simple funny way to talk to adult too
how extinguish good children cartoon for educate and make them smart
or train children grow up going to viloance and see play game or nitindo and play station to not understand reality verses some thing not real
do we need to sansor this cartoon for certain extend
how about mustic can be sensor muisic for ban vilance
there is more to define viloance to define the
get advantage of freedomm to bother group of people and teach them wrong
http://blog.wired.com/tableofmalcontents/2007/03/the_hayes_offic.html
There is an absolutely fascinating series of scans over at Cartoon Brew of an article from Look Magazine in 1939 in which the Leo Schlesinger studio over at Warner Bros. explains how the Hayes Code impacted their cartoons.
Some of the revelations are surprising, some not so much. Men in cartoons were discouraged from being too effeminate. Children were encouraged not to misbehave (for example, give raspberries) since, as Schlesinger said, "cartoons are primarily aimed at children" (this admission surprises me, since cartoons from the 20's, 30's and 40's are so adult by comparison to most children's cartoons up until very recently).
http://www.stevestiles.com/avery.htm
http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=1863
http://www.boingboing.net/
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/classic/hollywood-censors-its-animated-cartoons-1939
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Production_Code#1930_to_1934:_The_start_of_the_Hays_Code
http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/cahrs/research/pubs/hrspectrum/upload/HRSpec05-10.pdf
why again most cartoon under sansor are german or jewihs name are they smart or they are extremet and too leftiess can be try to bring in middle of center
if left is too much and right is too little and middle is more conservative can be always be in midle and igonre let go away justice donw and scare to bring left or right to not do too much too little
Posted by: new at July 6, 2008 2:12 PMhayes no one believe your new, just a rehash of the same old BS
Posted by: FREE at July 6, 2008 3:25 PMa non-white like Zerbesias
My, this race thing is becoming an exclusive club. I take it that EBD means by "white" the dolicephalic Nordic Aryan type.
I think I have that right, but I'm a little rusty on my German racial science. Maybe Kathy might ask her friend Steve Sailer. He'd know.
Posted by: MsMew at July 6, 2008 5:02 PMneo: "it'll never get published at the red star... but here's the comment i left for urban zerban..."
Oops, they did publish it. And nobody freaked out. You'll be along to admit your error and retract it shortly, I'm sure.
PiperPaul: "Whoops, just read the article. the nuclear family where the wife/mother stayed at home was a psychological, if not physical, prison. Generalized broad sweep at mothers/wives that don't work. Nice."
No, what's really nice is to misrepresent someone's statement by carefully trimming a quote to leave off an important qualification. Like the words "...for many women...", which AZ wrote before the bit you quote-mined. You'll be cross-posting with neo in your haste to correct this dishonesty, no doubt.
Indiana Homez: "If I had to live with a retard 27/7 I think I would put myself out of my misery."
I strongly suggest you take 27 hours to contemplate whether that's a wise principle for you in particular to espouse...
Posted by: Figulus Pilosus at July 6, 2008 6:32 PMThis article is 7 months old. Who cares?
Posted by: Raphael Alexander at July 6, 2008 10:24 PMNo, MsMew, apparently it's the ability to parse deadpan and satire that's an exclusive club.
Do you really think I was seriously saying, that Miss Z isn't white? Or is it simply the case that deliberately missing the point is so helpful to your hair-trigger self-righteousness that you just couldn't resist the opportunity to make a pointless headlong run without the proverbial ball?
MsMew, if someone were going to write a sneering, derisive column titled "Mao Zedong would have loved your pretty Chinese babies" or "Robert Mugabe would have loved your pretty negro babies" the writer would not only have to be Chinese-er than Chinese or negroid-er than negroid, respectively, but would either have to point that out or consider it to be everyone's assumption.
But having done that, what would be the edges of that same-race dispensation? If a Finn referred sneeringly to "Greek babies" as some category of self-evident offensiveness -- would that be perfectly ok because both groups are nominally white?
Babies of any race shouldn't be identified by race as a prop for a weak, vanity-pocked column, nor should a racially-labeled baby be shown being held by a hateful murdering historical figure as fodder for -- let's give her the benefit of the doubt -- an addled political argument.
The bottom line is that SHE clumsily tossed *race* into a political discussion about *culture* and then took the opportunity created by that act of prurient rabble-rousing to use sneering racist terms, in an ill-conceived attempt to demonstrate her own anti-racist bona fides.
How did race -- anyone's -- become the issue but through her column?
Get it? No? Well, there's not much anyone can do about that.
Posted by: EBD at July 6, 2008 10:37 PMZerbiasis has her biases. That is why she writes for the RED STAR newspaper of Toronto. I purchase that newspaper on the weekends only for the TV listings that my better half wants. Fortunately we don't often read the crap they publish. From first hand knowledge it is twisted biased crap and unsupported manipulation of the truth.
I sure wish that the National Post would improve their TV section with full program listings so that I could completely forgo the Red Star.
Posted by: Hoarfrost at July 7, 2008 12:35 AMWell, Z's fall from grace is rather complete now. From Canada's Most Important (ONLY!) Full-Time Media Columnist (just ask her) to just another column in the Woman’s (er, "Life") Section between recipes. I'm just glad her innate bitterness isn't coming through in her writing...
Posted by: James Goneaux at July 7, 2008 10:35 AMJesus, Raphael, YOU started it.
Posted by: Kathy Shaidle at July 7, 2008 10:55 AMi have not read the blog in a few days as i was out of town. so my comments have be in reverse. this is still stupid.
Posted by: old white guy at July 7, 2008 3:19 PM