The Globe had the same article. Flooded with a deluge of comments...all in support.

"This is, by wide agreement, the most ideological government that anybody can remember and very, very consistent in their application of their ideology and their disregard of the evidence for what works in corrections,"

What works in corrections? Aren't the prisons still filled with ..... well, criminals? Including the same ones over and over again?

Isn't the concept of "what works" itself based wholly on ideological outlook? What works for whom? Criminals? Victims? Society? Prison guards? Protection of property rights and personal security?

"Ideological" is right up there on the meaninglessness scale with "progressive", when the person flinging the term about is unwilling to admit that they hold any belief other than what is "practical" or "sensible" or "good for the country".

Imagine the nerve of that Day guy! Having caught the poor defenseless criminal, there he is trying to stop the parole board letting them go.

Just another reason I don't EVER EVER EVER buy the Blob & Snail. If I want to pay money to be lied to I'll go to a strip club. All the girls will tell me I'm handsome and I'll be happy.

Excellent!!! Of course the "society" is pissed. Imagine the gall of a government putting somebody into a cushy bureaurcratic job who might be there because of what they know,not who they b&%l. mind you,the concept of best qualified for the job is lost on leftards. Now if PMSH can start straighting out the HRC's and the Supremes,there may yet be a glimmer of hope for Canuickstan.

It's amazing to me that if you put professionals who deal with criminals every day on the parole board you are an ideological extremists but if you put leftards on the board who are sociologists with a soft-on-crime political agenda and who have never had a real job, you are being responsible and non-partisan.

Just what do these lying propagandists think are the "right" people for the board? (that was a rhetorical question.)

Just maybe it's the G&M and its leftard friends that are extremist, ideological and biased.

...and yes, if the pro-criminal activists hate a policy that is reason enough to like it.

"The John Howard Society is livid, which is always a good sign. "

Excellent !!

The more agitated the JHS is, the better off society will be.

"23 are retired police officers or former federal and provincial corrections staff."

What? No lawyers? How can that be? Say it ain't so!

(Much wailing, breast-beating, gnashing of teeth...)

How ideological not to meet the normal quota of progessives and activists!

Aren't these discriminatory hirings based on actual qualifications and experience not a case for the HRCs?

An intelligent and good move. I just hope all the legislation pertaining to Corrections Canada will be reviewed and the leftist elements (granting convicted criminals more rights than the average citizen other than freedom of movement) removed.

All well and good but did Day appoint the correct number of visible minorities/women/ disabled that reflect the diversity of the community??
Being a Federal Government Department, it has to
meet the Employment Equity guidelines.
He'd better watch it or he's going to be appearing before a CHRC tribunal.

'Sick to death of all these goddamned Lefty wastes of skin running Lefty Organizations and committees telling us what's good for us.

We've just been dealt another disgusting example of how they're taking down the moral fiber of this country. Henry Morgentaler gets the Order Of Canada. Why in Heaven's name should he be awarded that honour when he's such an offense to so many people?

a quote from Charles Babbage- the inventor of the first real computer -proving that parliaments and senates were full of dopes early on. this is like the debate on global warming and the hockey stick graph.

On two occasions I have been asked, – "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" In one case a member of the Upper, and in the other a member of the Lower, House put this question. I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.[33]

cal2:

It is indeed a strange question, parliament being one of the finest examples of "garbage in, garbage out."

The prisons are also filled with Liberal voters, doncha know!

Stock Day continues to be an excellent, principled, clear-thinking MP. This government is doing the right thing on crime. Good job!

Do the women voters feel safer with violent criminals kept behind bars? or turned loose in our neighborhoods?

Just wondering how the female voters out there feel about this.

John g, I found that story on the Globe too. You know how they dealt with the flood of comments suporting Day?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080702.EPAROLE02/TPStory/Comment

They removed the comments section.

On a different tack, do you recall any Liberal cabinet minister the subject of such intense scrutinty as this? Was the question ever asked of Anne McLellan why she had appointed so few people involved in corrections to the parole board? Was an attempt made to see how many of her appointments were of a "political nature"?

Geez. If only the media worked this hard to hold government accountable when the Liberals were in.

hot damn.

do you remember when the CBC did an entire documentary which focussed on Stockwell's belief in creationism?
damn liberal hypocrites
Stockwell is one of the few politicians in Canada with integrity

Imagine that, having people who have professionally dealt with these criminals, listen to their song and dance routines and not be taken in. This is a conservative (and John/Jane Q. Public) feel good story if ever I heard one.

btw, Stock Day's only problem was the lieberal media who proceeded to find fault in everything he did or said. Like Preston Manning before him, Day tried to play the game by the MSM's rules and got spanked for it. Mr Harper didn't want to play nice and stood up to the self appointed press bullies.

i see one big problems in Canadian today prime minister is lack enough communication

prime minster need to have party in summer to invite Muslim even respct them with proper food and section not in contact with bar tender

and prime minster in top of triangle need to get correct information not need to hire spy as Isreal did for Iran
they onlyneed to hires gradue student hired in each minster to gather information and narrow it down to know the fact
if prime minste know the fact he never enter in war in fir place
canada need their own medi and information

conflict of interest is important when you hire lawyer in human right commisin and lawyr are has issue or conflict with you then can not be act by you like judge in civl court can be the brother the person you plan to sue him for conflict of interest

if you need independent advice do not hire in human right the people who may has refugee adn only support refugee group becuse some time vistim may not alwys be refuegee guy may be oppoist

such as in human righ if you hire Iranian lawyer who like Shah and all against prisoner of Iran then soem Muslim want to bring case that laweyr may reject it becasue not like that idea

working in human right commison is tricky because the person should act very fair

htey need to hird judges to work as lawery in human right ocmmison to weight your right not simpal lawyr out of no where to jude you

conflict of interest and tak real news and research of data using university student or master degree sutuiend with no conflict o finterest before final decision is need
for prime minster who seat in top of triange
because if news come wrong the order is wrong too
who can be blame if order went wrong the sysmte
Canada govement systmes and jduges and lawyers and reserach are not up to date and has no credit for Canadian ormay had one and lost the credit now

"i see one big problems in Canadian today prime minister is lack enough communication"

Ok, ESL, now that's pretty bold statement given your facility with the English language. The obvious question would be, "how would you know?"

Next he should find a way to hire that sherrif in Arizona to head up corrections canada.

excellent move...most cops are totally pissed off all the time about the criminals they catch and then watch walse by them through the courts or the parole boards.. let some of the corportate tax money go toward keeping more criminals in more prisons for long long long times.......good on you ol stock....

Day's run for PM was an eye opener for me, and what we're up against. I met him just out of high school and I was impressed by how REAL he was.

res:

Liberals and the MSM can bitch all they want about S.H. tight leash on MP's and his reluctance to speak to the media; but, fortunately for us the CPC and S.H. learned from the Reform and C.A's mistakes. It really picks the arse of the leftards that S.H. will not play their games, he just conducts business and keep his mouth shut and will let his policy speak for itself.

Another accomplishment in Day's department has been downplayed...perhaps for security reasons. It was mentioned briefly in reference to 'gun control' foolishness.Border security (formerly Customs) in SW Ontario alone has recently hired 7 new investigators to deal any border issues.

Stock is TCOB!!

Nice to get the Mohammedan perspective on this, but I don't think Day will be pardoning any perpetrators of honour killings quite yet.

And this is good news from the article:

"Day has also re-appointed a further four retired police officers and four former corrections administrators who were named to the parole board by McLellan and previous Liberal ministers."

Getting rid of Lib beaurocracy...one soft socialist at a time.

hmmm...lets see:
res=moss=hay...is this a word association game?

What is the fake Muslim doing here by injecting Muslims into "global warming"? Gee, I knew they destroyed a lot of stuff but this too?

Opps. Above in wrong thread. Ding. Ding. Ding.

signed,
Blind guy

they are never satisfied. I would have had him serving frog legs

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2008/07/02/qc-poutinedc-0701.html

and a hot dog? no way - it would have to be fish'n chips .

St. Johns is 113 years older anywho.

Henry Morgentaler gets the Order Of Canada. Why in Heaven's name should he be awarded that honour when he's such an offense to so many people?

Posted by: Liz J at 2:53 PM

geezus liz, watch out for that bible, so's you don't trip or it on the way to the key board!!!!

G'day Res,

just off one, are ya?

I'll bet there are a lot of pidgin websites for you to play on.

I work day-in-day-out on foreign projects bringing revenue into my adopted country. I have never killed any of my fellow citizens (noone else, for that matter.

Maybe if I murder a bunch of future fellow citizens, I too will be awarded the highest honour the country has to offer.

Beverly Macglauchlin is a disgrace and should be stripped of her status and her citizenship.

GYM, not to worry, I'll not trip on a Bible.

Point is why would someone as controversial as Dr. Morgentaler be awarded the Order of Canada? The subject of abortion is and always has been a very divisive one.

Could it be there's another agenda at play here?

This 'haye-moss-res' and various other names he gives to himself, is insulting Muslims by his coming here, using many aliases, pretending to be many different people. He posts under at least ten different names.

But they are all the same. Illiterate, lacking any grammar, random words flung around, spells difficult words correctly and mispells the easy ones. Inserts a few irrelevant details of Islam; asserts Islamic superiority. What's his point?

So, he's setting up an image of Muslims as both unable to speak/write English and as having only a superficial knowledge of Islam. We all know that he's a fraud; that he is actually fluent in English. And he's probably not a Muslim.

So, he's insulting Muslims by presenting this image of them as illiterate and ignorant. What's his point? There are people in any collective who are illiterate and ignorant; there are people who are highly educated and intelligent. So why is this twit coming here with his rubbish? Doesn't he have anything productive to do?

By Kristine Owram, The Canadian Press

TORONTO - Abortion rights activist Henry Morgentaler said Wednesday he's honoured that his work has "finally" been recognized with the country's highest civilian honour and hopes the country has set an exa ...

I heard Mr. clinton had an affair with his one his assistant god know may be more and Monica and give so many favor to Isreali after because Monica luenski was Jewish

probably one of Canadian goverment guy did not like his wife or his girlfriend who know may affair girl body of him got pregant and not wish to have a child
then change the law and order of Canada and give order of Canada to abortionist Mr. Morgentaler

Canadain only like their friend and girl freind more htan politic you know that well

this is only possiblity Mr. Morgentaler got order of Canada I can not think of any thing else

I think you may need watch your prime minster more carfully and closely for his action
we do not like too much sorry letter

At least Witheld made more sense in direct proportion to the alcohol consumed ....... res , not so much .

With such a large percentage of the NPB former law enforcement members, then we can no doubt count on the continuation of the Faint Hope Clause.

However this will be in name only, with the updated version of this program will now be taken to mean that criminals like Bernardo and Olson will be placed in with the general prison population.....and along with that they would now have a Faint Hope of survival.

I know who res is,IT is from the CHRC and it may be the infamous Mr.Richard hoping to get an action against someone.The CHRC is monitoring sda and Mr. Richard is posting under aliases.Is'nt that sweet.If it isnt Mr.Richard then its one of their henchmen.Maybe the RCMP should take note.

Adding more prison list is not solve the problems

those prisonar are get more in link together

if prison need to increase punishment also need to add more program for prisonars to get fix
pscylogically more doctores some sport some inside job for prison or special tv program not let them watch all movies or

priosn called correction facilty I do nto see any of this jail do any correction for people go and come back excep they are mentally more down may be when they back

I heard some homeless love to go to jail because of warm food and place to sleep

prison systems must be change
all prioson guard when we see teh movie we hate them all like people grwo up with no mother and fatehre and no heart

anger managment program in jail or so many thing to fix them

I think people in jail if they are danger need to go group

a b c d f marke

you can not expect criminal back become normal quickly
if prisonar watch as F mark there is step those people must back to A to get release from prison

even life after release of prison need to go under supervisory for 2 to 5 years make sur tehy got job proper to live not back to jail again

most people may hate criminal
i see criminal as people that mentally got confused and ill mentally
need to fix them not hurt them
I know may some red neck police like to send every samll crime to jail to win
some police not care about fix socity just hate criminal not see them they are sick people mentally need to cure them and some may take 15 years to fix them but if you put them 15 years with no program they come back and act worst and may do crime in worst shape
for safty of people sending people in jail and come back and security need to go more research to made them fix not worst

but also you can be too optomestic peopel going to jail are able to get thier normal life quckly too I hears some church minster help some jail prisoner and give them job and after tehy start to kill each otehr in church and program was stoped in USA you can not put prisoner in touch with very simple good people they may get advatange of them most prisoner are liars and sick but so many of them can get fix if progrma get exist if no program you put civian in more dange to arrest them and let them go with no future

no, spike, res-haye-moss and his numerous other aliases, is not, I think, from the HRC.

They are elitists; they wouldn't present themselves as illiterate and ignorant. It's a leftist juvenile, who is fluent in English, speaks and writes only English, doesn't know anything about languages, and who is also quite ignorant of Islam, and has a lot of time on his hands, who likes to pretend...hmmm...pretend that he's ignorant and illiterate?

Best ignored because he can't communicate a clear meaning about anything. And I don't like dealing with ten year old kids who are bored.

Comos...I met Mr.Day as well,I couldn't believe how real and nice he was,why?Cause I was one of the uninformed sheeple at the time,letting the media form my opinions so naturally I thought he was a moron.The only moron was me for having been so blind to our left wing media's agenda,never again though.

I don't know if res is from the hrc,it wouldn't surprise me one bit.But I agree with ET,no reason to respond to the fraud,I mean what's the difference between dealing with a bored ten year old and a hrc moron,nothing that I can come up with.

Now if Shamnesty International and Lizzie Fried would also offer its condemnations we'd know we were on the right path.

In other news, the Calgary Sun tries to garner sympathy for Ronald Smith Jr.
http://calsun.canoe.ca/SAP/Home/

Hi ET and Spike,you could be both rite ,Like Kate says ,ignore the trolls,we ain't bitin today.

Correct or not (pardon the pun - er pardon that pun too) this will be a big hit with the police unions across the country - very much a demo that the CP wants on its side.

the CHRC and its operatives can kiss my ass

f*#k you res

Love it!!!

Bring on the next election, please. There's no way in h*ll the CPC can lose.

Bob Stanfield holds the title of best PM we never had. And his underwear is still the best.

Ex-cops are okay for parole boards, but no better than plenty of others. Cops don't have an exclusive on justice issues, just like preachers don't have a monopoly on morality. Day is looking for people that are more likely to fit his image. Nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't make him any kind of hero.

This insanity has to be stopped. If left unchecked soon they will be appointing farmers to the wheat board.

x-cop former cop I met them few are working in traffic ticket help people ticket

still are teh cop like to made people guilty to innocent or dismiss as I feel like that I may be wrong in majority of them
sorry cop

hire the retire judge is better for get opinion

or if you use experine cop today and train them with new mentality are better to use old cop or use the young cop but experince cop with more training are better and more crediable I think

It's a sad day in Canada when Henry Morgentaler is awarded the Order of Canada for depleting our society of hundreds of thousands (the figures are actually in the millions now) of future Canadians--who, BTW, will never have a shot at getting such an award. 'Talk about dying prematurely...

What a country.

The little white pin is pretty much meaningless now. The OC has become a travesty and makes a mockery of the "highest civilian honour" in our dystopian Deranged Dominion (thanks to Mark Steyn for that apt moniker).

Banana Republic is us.

Re Morgentaler

I wish I had the Order of Canada, so that I could send it back in protest!

Morgentaler didn't do anything out of the goodness of his heart. He made millions off those clinics. I won't comment one way or the other on the abortion issue, but the good doctor should get an award for his business success, not his humanitarian efforts.

It's a meaningless gesture anyway. An award from a Haitian voodoo priestess, who supported the breakup of Canada.

Wallyj- I don't want to pick a fight, but maybe farmers aren't the best people to sit on the wheat board. Just like teachers shouldn't control the schoolboard, or doctors control the health regions. It's a conflict of interest. They're too close to the issues.

"If I want to pay money to be lied to I'll go to a strip club"

Have a safe trip to Alberta/Manitoba...

I'm with you Liz. Morgantaler deserves something, but it isn't the Order of Canada. He's a murderer.

Gym is a mental midget who will reap what he sows. Another anti-Christian with nothing of any use to add to a conversation except to attack the Bible.

Morgantaler deserves to swing on the end of a rope. Hes nothing but a MURDERER.

Uh Stockwell..PM?
No I can't say I wanna get behind this one. He'd make Joe Clark look good.

Let's try this again shall we?

Good God! Image what would happen if they appointed a VICTIM of crime onto that board! That would be terrible, because, of course, they have an IDEOLOGY that being victimized by criminals is a BAD thing! They are TOTALLY prejudiced!

BATB, Lookout and others who decry his award. This is not the thread for this but your hatred for this man is typical of religious seething for anyone who goes against what you are told to believe. I don't remember Morgentaler rounding up pregnant women and forcing them to have abortions, never saw the cattle pens of millions of these women being herded into his clinic. It was their CHOICE, get over it.

If the Catholic church had its way there would be no sex education, contraceptives, morning after pills and you would be back where the muslims want you, in the house, under complete control, in a bag and silent.

He stopped the back street butchery of abortionists and women will continue to get them either in a clinic or on the street.

Try and get our party to support a motion to ban abortions and we will disappear faster than John Tory did in Ontario.

Good God! Image what would happen if they appointed a VICTIM of crime onto that board! That would be terrible, because, of course, they have an IDEOLOGY that being victimized by criminals is a BAD thing! They are TOTALLY prejudiced!

Posted by: grok at July 3, 2008 4:21 PM

Yes grok, that's how justice works in this country. If the victim chooses the punishment for every crime there'd be no consistency.

Some victim might want to castrate his neighbour for running over his dog, and some idiot might want to forgive someone who murdered his kid.

The father of the kid that died in the Taber school shooting a few years ago showed no emotion, and insisted they have mercy on the shooter. He totally forgave the kid, and asked for lieniency. You want him on the parole board?

I don't think there's any one occupational group that should necessarily predominate in these appointments. It would be best if each panel reviewing an application had at least one cop/guard/Crown, one lawyer who has normally acted for the defence, and one social work/psych type who can decifer the diagnostic reports without being snowed by either side.

I do know that Stock Day is immensely popular with the guards. A leader of the guards union in BC told me how he gets personal EMails on his Blackberry direct from Stock late at night, ... which means around 2 or 3 am Ottawa time. The former wet suit model (not successful in that gig) seems to have found his true calling.

I'm with you Liz. Morgantaler deserves something, but it isn't the Order of Canada. He's a murderer.

No he isn't, and you know it. I am delighted he was appointed. And I take the reaction of you and Liz the same way the host takes the reaction of the JHS.

So,flyboy, waiting with bated breath for your explanation of who'll pay for (badly needed) new prisons. Millionaire ad company execs from Quebec, perhaps? The Bronfmans? M. Strong? Maybe Paul Martin's offshore registered shipping company can cut that cheque? I could never understand why the lieberals, always so anxious to spend my hard earned tax dollars on one incompetent boondoggle after another, couldn't spit up a few bucks for some federal gaols. If we do build up some new prisons, I hope they're modeled after the old BC pen,only grimmer. And way further north.