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July 2, 2008

Tony Blair's Britain

Where the foxes caper unmolested, the government packs your school lunch, so much for the Queen's English;

Pupils are being rewarded for writing obscenities in their GCSE English examinations even when it has nothing to do with the question.

One pupil who wrote “f*** off” was given marks for accurate spelling and conveying a meaning successfully.

His paper was marked by Peter Buckroyd, a chief examiner who has instructed fellow examiners to mark in the same way. He told trainee examiners recently to adhere strictly to the mark scheme, to the extent that pupils who wrote only expletives on their papers should be awarded points.

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The chief examiner, who is responsible for standards in exams taken by 780,000 candidates and for training for 3,000 examiners, told The Times: “It would be wicked to give it zero, because it does show some very basic skills we are looking for – like conveying some meaning and some spelling.

“It’s better than someone that doesn’t write anything at all. It shows more skills than somebody who leaves the page blank."


Posted by Kate at July 2, 2008 6:12 AM
Comments

"No wonder the local beavers bite off their wotsits"

A British article about emigrating to Canada. The comments are illuminating:

"Canada is a more PC country than America and Britain combined. "

Another.

"Socialists. They prefer the comfort of being taken care of and don't have that 'can do' attitude (many will admit this themselves). "

" Rampant political correctness. They pride themselves on their multiculturalism - i.e., you're tiptoeing around everyone. "

Posted by: summom bonum at July 2, 2008 9:56 AM

“It’s better than someone that doesn’t write anything at all. It shows more skills than somebody who leaves the page blank."

British police constable in the not too distant future: “No, we're not going to arrest that young man for beating up an old lady and stealing her purse. He's better than someone who doesn’t do anything at all. It shows more skills than somebody who just leaves elderly people alone."

Posted by: JJM at July 2, 2008 9:59 AM

Maybe five hole salt shakers in fish'n chip shops have merit after all. Now the dumb kids are mad enough not to leave blank exam pages.

Seriously, if I ever showed that level of disrespect at school, my hands would have gotten the up-close and personal treatment from the vice-principal's beaver tail he kept in the top drawer of his desk (and how do I know that?). Then there'd be the leather belt waiting at home afterwards. Back then there were real consequences for stupidity.

There's something rotten in today's youth that can't be fixed by patronizing them with fake grades. It'll continue to get worse unless the kids are made to face their problems head on. Pretending doesn't work, getting real does.

Posted by: Martin B. at July 2, 2008 10:09 AM

Whenever one imagines that they have discovered the very lowest -- or highest? -- degree of stupidity that can be attained by sentient beings, one need only gaze across the Atlantic to remind themselves that there is no fixed point beyond which further stupidity is impossible.

And if one considers that these same people were able to summon the wherewithal to stand up to the Nazis, well, one's head might explode. It's probably best not to think on it.

Posted by: Darrell at July 2, 2008 10:11 AM

For some reason this brings to mind the question I always get in job interviews: Are you a "team player?"

A good team player wouldn't tell Peter Buckroyd he's out of his frackin' mind. A good team player wouldn't remind him that one of the jobs in education is to teach children that anti-social behavior leads to a hard and unpleasant life, therefore swearing on an exam should not be rewarded except by swift punishment.

A good team player will get an obscenely wrong instruction like that and say "Yes sir, of course sir, makes perfect sense sir!" and play on as if nothing whatever was amiss.

So when they ask me "Are you a team player?" I usually say "No." Life's too short to be working someplace where they expect you to leave your brain at home.

Posted by: The Phantom at July 2, 2008 10:32 AM

The esteemed hief examiner has forgotten an important item. Language isn't just words valued in themselves for their correct spelling. Language has a singular function, its ability to communicate meaning.

A common structure of this meaningful communication is the question and answer. The words used must express some relevant relation between these two poles.

Presumably, that exam posed a question. The answer must refer to the meaning in the question and provide some relevant response. That is, as I understand it, one of the axioms of both communication and education.

I wonder if her Majesty's Revenue Department would, if it asked some citizen a question about the content of their tax form, accept an answer detailing a recipe for chicken soup.

Would her Majesty's Revenue Department accept this recipe for chicken soup, defining it as spelled correctly and indeed, a full recipe, and close the file?

Posted by: ET at July 2, 2008 10:35 AM

Perhaps I should amend my comment above from anti-social behavior to immoral behavior. Just to make sure the retards understand that going along with the established social norms isn't what I'm talking about.

Respect for others isn't just about "appropriate behaviour" or being nice. Its a basic requirement for a moral life.

There -are- times when telling somebody to f-off is absolutely the right thing to do. The CHRC springs to mind, for some reason. A grade school examination is no supposed to be one of those times.

Unfortunately it also occurs to me that a normal child trapped in that school system may find a blank sheet with the words f-off carefully written in the exact center to be the best possible response. That would be considered another victory for PC education, no doubt.

Posted by: The Phantom at July 2, 2008 11:06 AM

Quote by Phantom: There -are- times when telling somebody to f-off is absolutely the right thing to do. The CHRC springs to mind, for some reason. A grade school examination is no supposed to be one of those times.

I almost choked to death on my peanut butter sandwich, LOL to funny.

England is raising it's youth to be drones, mindless clueless little zombats who'll do as the state directs them to. They'll grow up to be proper little Commie/Cultural Marxist, I guess they didn't learn anything from fighting a fascist like Hilter. Alas they're becoming the mirror image of what Hitler created. Mindless drones who'll die for their Elite Leaders as they espouse Marxist dogma (dog shite actually).

I'd rather the Socialists' Brits stayed in Europe, Canada doesn't need anymore socialist commies posing as "LIBERALS".

Posted by: Rose at July 2, 2008 12:06 PM

Our country's British ancestry used to be something to be proud of. Their minds are firmly lodged in the nether regions.

Posted by: iowavette at July 2, 2008 12:14 PM


Is there going to be anything left of the UK when those socialist, halfwit, labour party vandals get through with it?

Since leftards love expletives so much, here's one for yah:

F*** Labour, Leftards, Socialists, and other worthless, sub-human garbage.

Posted by: Warwick at July 2, 2008 1:26 PM

Warwick's a meanie, I'm tellllling!!!!

Signed, Lucy.

Posted by: The Phantom at July 2, 2008 2:40 PM

What’s next, Ebonics on official government notices?

Pupils is bein' rewarded fo' writin' obscenities in deir GCSE English 'esaminashuns even when it gots nodin' t'do wid de quesshun. One pupil who wrote “f*** off” wuz given marks fo' accurate spellin' and conveyin' some meanin' successfully. Slap mah fro! His sheet wuz marked by Liva' Lips Buckroyd, some chief 'esamina' who gots instructed dude 'esaminers t'mark in de same way. Slap mah fro! He told trainee 'esaminers recently t'adhere strictly t'de Amos scheme, t'de 'estent dat pupils who wrote only 'espletives on deir sheets should be awarded points. [...] De chief 'esaminer, who be responsible fo' standards in 'esams snatchn by 780,000 kindun didates and fo' trainin' fo' 3,000 'esaminers, told De Times, dig dis: “It would be wicked t'cut it zero, cuz' it duz show some real basic skills we is lookin' fo' – likes conveyin' some meanin' and some spellin'. “It’s betta' dan some sucka dat duzn’t scribble nuthin at all. It shows mo'e skills dan some fool who leaves de page blank. Ya' know?"

Posted by: Cal at July 2, 2008 2:48 PM

So if the little git had written a well-structured, correctly spelled and punctuated description of a room in Buckingham Palace, what kind of marks would he have received? Perfect? Or would they have actually deducted a few points for not answering the question correctly?

Posted by: Mike M at July 2, 2008 2:59 PM

This sounds just like the asshats who run (into the ground) public education in our benighted dominion. God help us.

This reminds me of an incident at a school--probably not far from you!--where the children were involved in a recreational writing activity, devised by a parents' group. The activity was based on The Simpsons so the kids' written responses were from that perspective. In that vein, quite creatively dealing with the task set, a student wrote a "homophobic" statement. One teacher assessing the responses gave an automatic failing grade "because homophobic statements are NOT allowed, no matter what." I'd have given the response a more than passing grade because the student, in the voice expected, answered the question most competently.

The politically correct idiots in charge of public (and even a lot of private) education are taking us nowhere any sane and principled person would want to go. As I said, God help us.

Posted by: lookout at July 2, 2008 3:26 PM

who needs English language?
Do you belive you can have future prime minster with accent of indian people?
do you belive you are experta nd know it all but not know English as most whie English talk or fluent idiom to use do you belive you can order those canadain below you to listne to you and has strong leader ship
to let people take your order?
why do you think you know english you know better than person know other language as good as you know your ENglish lanugage but English is second lanuage for them
what is solution for that

even Celion Dion as example you Canadian may know story about her than me she could not speak englsih but not could sell to learn english and sold more but still you can see she can not speak fulent in Enlgish then english used for busiss for her not for enjoy useing it all the time


I want to give you some exmaple I know you people in blogs know english well
but i belive most of you are not communite with immigrant and other culture

originally usage of language and word to made communication get started or such as example you ask the question you need answer and you can find any way to let your audience understand your main points as primary act

when you go to criminal court defintly you need translator if you can not speak english or not sure you know all word such as if judge and crown ask you when did you kill that guy ? you able to answer last year or answer is I never kill anybody or say time accuratly or if you not know or not answer correctly you go to jail

when you go to civil court and have claim if you ask big claim you must know english well otherwise the l awyer of defendent can strik you out saying the claim is not understanding and not clear and sentence used wrong grammer and if jduge see they may right even in most cases in civil court in Canda not like your immigrant face ask so much from big company use the bad language and written cause your claim can go to years still jduge may ask go and fix it and no clear for us and funny thing in judges in civil court if even you go to m otion nd explian all documents they may lie to get benefit strik out not cause of action is simple way to say it

or traffic ticket stop you why did turn and you an not explain it police can give carless driving because you did nto explain the case for police

and so on

as people think not knowing Englishn can benfit immigrant in most of case to hid their identity they may know english but hid not know english in most case not know english is used against new immigrant

and think you ar big boss and know all project and in board room meeting you as different race come before all white english speak engish but have grade 9 and you have master degree from back home and take new gradue there still in some word or ACCCEENT cause employee below burst to laugh at boss with new accent and not take order saying 'you immigrant come to order we white Canadain go home I am not taking order from you becaue english is your second language and hide your experty behind discrimination of language!

we have so many case here
the thing importatn not every body need to knwo English language perfect in all the time

this is also other true story:
two neighbors who have lived together for 4 years and barly say to each other a word passed may maxim hello becuase one thing happend they got the best close freind now , one from china and one from middle east
what happend!

both family work hard brought theri mother form back home to taking cared of children
such as drop the kid in bus stop

71 years old woman from middle east who could not say a word in English early morning about 7: 45 am took his grandson and other chinneese 65 years old took his grandson and both kids attend the same school and same grade

during this morning these two old nice lady got freind and funny talk and even use the grand son be thier translator in some time for them

it is proof you can find the freind even if you can not know English even one word of it and as mostof know chinnes community are bring thier parenet or grand parent in Canada and most of them can not speak english some may live here for so long still refuse to say a word in english


I do not bleive depend on situation
you must look at answer in depend of course you are taking if you ask
math course and you need to write few word in Enlgish and made grameer mistake teacher can not give you f mark

if you take polticialy or sheaspear course in university and not know the grammer of Englsih you need to get F mark and back to grade one to learn well
it depend on situatin and position you have
team work is means you msut able to work in team and you need to have good communication skills to talk and be freindly together or at least pretend one and know how to handle bad guy
but individual job that your partner made you fail but you are good in work by yourself

if you see all check for find job people check youif you able to work in group to see if you listen and quick learner and listen to order and if both are weak then they ask you individual test to know whos is weakest link to fired him and let the one more stronger has second chance

Khurum Awan is research student are fired on May 30, 2008 from his job his job was research studne he is not even gradute new lawyre he did not finish his law degree yet and he does research about help judges order to find ease job for them in Canada court as extra helper
he did himslef file agains those body in human right but again is has right to say any complain may some complain is ok or not ok but every body has right to file complain
problems is sysme in Canada in goverment in courts in school in learing english in hrc is weak and not fair yet is more brockrasy and paper work to do the jsutice done
if muslim recongnize as Muslim specialy not know English but has good remark and idea people made fun of them becaue of language disrimination
oh.. your language is englsih as second language
whiel immigrant know as student how to take A or b or C to pass English and if time come know how to present perfect english to teacher as may Canadian wonder how come this person suddently change is fraudss while not know the tactic of them

Posted by: moss at July 2, 2008 4:09 PM

is stupid a four letter word?

Posted by: old white guy at July 2, 2008 4:13 PM

I've seen it go from one extreme to the other. In junior high one of my classmates was given a 0 for writing the letters "G.D." on an essay. that was in 1968. In 1970 I had a young teacher who didn't grade on grammar, spelling, or structure. It was suddenly all about substance and imagination.

Personally I think the latter coaxed more budding writers out of the closet than the old stuffy ideas from the 50's. But there has to be a limit. Filthy language might be suitable in the right context, but isn't necessary for every single essay.

Posted by: dp at July 2, 2008 11:34 PM

Moss gets an F, even from Mr. Buckroyd.

Posted by: Lista at July 3, 2008 4:15 AM
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