Brian Stewart and CBC News decided to question the accountability of JTF 2 the other night on The National. So I decided to look into what was really knotting their knickers:
Stewart and Mansbridge ask a lot of questions, but don't provide many good answers. But that certainly doesn't stop them from making insinuations and giving inaccurate impressions to their viewers.For starters, look at Mansbridge's introduction to the segment:
Canadians are told their soldiers are rebuilding Afghanistan, fighting to defend the lives of the Afghan people. But elite Canadian soldiers are also carrying out secret military raids, raids which have resulted in the deaths of Afghan civilians. The United Nations is demanding answers. But the Canadian military is neither talking nor offering any accountability...
There's so much spin packed into so few words, it's going to take some effort to unpack it. Stay with me, here...
I'd like to think the whole thing is worth reading, since I'm the one who wrote it. But if you're interested in what happens when clueless, self-important journalists bump up against real OPSEC issues affecting the lives of those serving overseas and the success of a mission, this is a great example of the petulance that ensues.
P.S. Given what Labatt is doing for the CF this Canada Day, I'd encourage you to go buy some Blue for Canada Day tomorrow.
Posted by Damian at June 30, 2008 2:23 PMkill em all.
Posted by: old white guy at June 30, 2008 2:44 PMYou would never know there were enemies out there would you?
Posted by: Sounder at June 30, 2008 2:46 PMAnd in related news, only "dinosaurs" are watching television these days anyway....
Variety: TV viewers' average age hits 50.
variety.com/article/VR1117988273.html?categoryid=14&cs=1
Posted by: Doug at June 30, 2008 2:56 PMfor those that don't know...
OPSEC = Operational Security
"Opsec" is a big enough deal that some CF members ask that families not show photo's of their loved ones.
Posted by: the bear at June 30, 2008 2:58 PMThe point of the CBC being that the Taliban aren't so bad after all?
Are they kidding?
Posted by: Shaken at June 30, 2008 3:04 PM*
"shaken says... The point of the CBC being
that the Taliban aren't so bad after all?"
okay... let's be fair... this is actually liberal party
policy... the cbc just disseminates the propaganda.
*
Posted by: neo at June 30, 2008 3:17 PMIt's not a "murky story" but rather murky reporting. Once again the MSM's attitude of "we shall know all, see all and tell the public what they need to know or what is good for them" shows up in this piece. The CBC couldn't keep a secret any better than the New York Times. Little wonder that Taliban operation planning has the CBC, BBC and other MSM tuned in.
Remember the Canadian snipers that got outed a while back? That turned out well for all... not!
Posted by: Texas Canuck at June 30, 2008 3:41 PMwhen is the Auditor General going to take a critical look at the CBC?
the CBC is the liberal propaganda network and I'm tired of paying for it
Posted by: Brad at June 30, 2008 3:48 PMFrom the time Chretien sent our troops into afghanistan with lousy equipments and during the years the liberals were in office while our troops were in afghanistan, how many times during those years did CBC ever mention afghanistan its people taliban our troops etc.?
How many times Did CBC come to the aid of the troops when the troops asked for decent equipments and clothes.
How many times during those years did CBC discuss the troops.
How many times did CBC ever confront the liberals for their neglect on the troops.?
From now on every time CBC ever mouth their so-call concern for average joe and military do the honours of having the dates when CBC ever spoke for us and military especially when the liberals stole from every one of us.
In my opinion CBC has no use for canadians as you can see for yourself; their only intention is to manipulate the public to suit their personal agenda.
I would not share a single word about our troops to the CBC- CBC is not worth it. Plus, the Taliban is more important to CBC than the military.
From the time Chretien sent our troops into afghanistan with lousy equipments and during the years the liberals were in office while our troops were in afghanistan, how many times during those years did CBC ever mention afghanistan its people taliban our troops etc.?
How many times Did CBC come to the aid of the troops when the troops asked for decent equipments and clothes.
How many times during those years did CBC discuss the troops.
How many times did CBC ever confront the liberals for their neglect on the troops.?
From now on every time CBC ever mouth their so-call concern for average joe and military do the honours of having the dates when CBC ever spoke for us and military especially when the liberals stole from every one of us.
In my opinion CBC has no use for canadians as you can see for yourself; their only intention is to manipulate the public to suit their personal agenda.
I would not share a single word about our troops to the CBC- CBC is not worth it. Plus, the Taliban is more important to CBC than the military.
Knowing the type of guys who join up for JTF2 etc, I'm not surprised CBC got the night-and-fog treatment. These guys make ninja look like the Keystone Cops.
Bamboozling reporters they can do in their sleep. Its called disinforming the enemy.
Posted by: The Phantom at June 30, 2008 3:54 PMcome on, I can not bleive it, look at that old white guy saying even by his name he used 'kill them all' he can proof he is fun of multiculturism and love Afgani people
Afgani people are hardworkind very kind people do not fool with tehir big beard of them or their dress if you need to hired good building or cooking employee hire Canadian afgani people thwy can work in any condition for you and made money for you and not bother or talk so mubh back to you just kind with them
the difference bettween army and police with
regular criminal is army job to keep civilna life and protect them
having your childenr die in war it deoes not give credit to go innocent civilian
this is discrimination against race, relgion, gender and where you come from and I must have everything and Mulsim should die all and havingnothing this is sound like Hitler nazi racisist and discriminaiton
if hate increase with no direction and your freind die in war and you take gun and kill otehr 10 innocent you must go to army war trial and explain for public why you kill them all
mr. old white guy
I do not know and may be noboy know how many years of life of old white guy left to say goodbye to all of us but not every like to die soon and kill them all
you can not kill any civil innocnet
put themn in trail and fire them all
and replace Canada army to new army from other countreis to reduce conflict of interest there
Canadain not know meaning of war they think their weapon is paly station 3 they only playing game and kill muslim like them in play station 3 not mature yet mentaly to send Canadain army in any war for another 20 years canadain are not design for war and know thier limit how far they can go
multiculturims is not work in Canada since Canada is only hotel for peolel go to their room not talk to each otehr if tehy talk they recived all abusive words angry old white man
saying kill them all this is totoaly unfair to Muslim there
Afgani poor people first they bother with those drug dealer talibani tehn they botehr with those Arab Osma gusy then they botehr with Canadian army this afgani has not life there
they born to die and get abuse until human right stop this saying they are human but poor they are human but not speak english tehy are pra god but they are human, they are got mismanaged but they are human god save them all
Typical. It takes time and effort to craft an introduction that packed with the typical lefty metanarrative talking points. Given the financial hard times that the MSM is enduring someone could really make a bundle selling them software with ready made templates and cut the editorial man hours down. Going to an animated cartoon format wouldn't hurt them either.
The typical Taliban and Muslim terrorist scumbags have consistenly and will always by choice insert civilians into their operations. It's how they operate. It's a big tactical advantage to them. Bless American and Canadian forces that are doing their best at higher risk to themselves trying to keep civilian casualties as low as they are. Only a total creep would suggest otherwise.
Posted by: penny at June 30, 2008 4:08 PMWhat ever happened to the charge of treason? Did the leftards sneak that one out of the criminal code while they were stealing millions from us?
Posted by: Justthinkin at June 30, 2008 4:23 PMHey Mo, or moss or haye or whatever, Canadian Forces wins every single engagement they have with the Taliban. Usually with zero casualties on our side, usually with mass casualties on their side.
That's because the Taliban are a bunch of untrained, undisciplined PUSSIES who retreat when their opponents return fire. Most Canadian forces casualties are the result of roadside bombs.
Roadside bombs are the weapons of cowards, dude. -Your- guys are sniveling, back stabbing little hillbillies, worthless in a stand up fight and can't even run away very well.
So STFU, baby.
Posted by: The Phantom at June 30, 2008 4:41 PMMoss,
I think old white guy was talking about getting rid of our treasonous media.
We are there to help the average Afghani throw off the shackles off the oppresive Taliban.
Cheers
Posted by: Greg at June 30, 2008 4:42 PMMoss, you Mussie impostor! 'Told you to go off and shit in your hat, did you not comprehend or are you constipated?
Mansbridge, Stewart, Boag et al, CBC boneheads/soreheads who think they should be informed of every little detail as they were accustomed to under the Librano regimes.
Who bothers to watch anything they "report"?
It's nothing but spinning of facts to manipulate opinion.
CBC 'journalists' have to watch what they say, you know. They don't want anything incriminating on their resume when they make the switch over to their sister network, Al Jazeera.
Posted by: Enkidu at June 30, 2008 5:08 PMWell Damian, no offense but...nope...I couldn't give a damn about what some fart sucker at the CBFC has to say about our fighting men because, to be honest, I don't answer to those toads either.
Even without cable on 'Peasant TV' I would never watch the CBFC for anything, much less meaningful news on Afghanistan or Iraq.
That's what guys like you and your mil-bloggers are for. :)
If I had my way most of those idiots at the CBFC would be looking for real jobs, and a few would be hanging from the lamp posts for treason.
LOL perhaps he'd like a couple of their members to visit and explain first hand what they do on a daily basis?
A friend of mine flies for them, when he visits he won't discuss any aspect of his job. It's covert opps for a reason, dah MSM are really reaching for a negative story these days.
Posted by: Rose at June 30, 2008 5:18 PMFurther, why in the name of sanity should any army or special force be talking to fools in the MSM about what they're up to? All anyone needs to be told is they're doing the job their country sent them to do and case closed.
Chretien sent the Forces into Afghanistan in the first place without any debate. Did the Media Hacks have any objections? Were they worried about what the soldiers were doing over there with green uniforms that stood out in the sands? Were they worried about the fact they were reliant on other countries for ammunition and equipment?
Posted by: Liz J at June 30, 2008 5:24 PM"Canadain not know meaning of war they think their weapon is paly station 3 they only playing game and kill muslim like them in play station 3"
Bingo.
I think we can can zero in on our resident troll's age and main leisure activity right there at the "play station 3" mark. I'll go one farther, a fat pimply white kid in a messy cellar or bedroom, mom's the breadwinner, gone for the day, bored, no incoming calls, killing time doing the lamest rendition of suppose-I-post-as-a-real-life-Muslim in between play station 3.....
Pathetic. And, a cautionary tale to young parents. Keep the pc in the dining room, put time limits in place, otherwise you've got a goner of a kid like our little mushroom here.
Posted by: penny at June 30, 2008 5:24 PMMossy is harmless...y'all know what Kate is going to say...
Let's direct the anger at the real problem...Mainsbridge and Stewart.
I would like to see them investigated...and dusted up...charges would be too much to ask.
GET THEM OFF THE AIR!!
Al Jazeera can have them!
The Librano position, I suppose, is that this little misunderstanding can be handled by the Noble and Angelic Blue Helmets of the U.N.
It's way past time to give up on the U.N. I can't quite get my head around how this corrupt bunch of uber kleptocrats is going to bring peace with the militant zealots of the religion of peace, when it can't save a life in all of Africa.
China with the veto, means that nothing, zero, nada, zippo, diddly squat will happen on the HR file if the hotspot in question has resources China needs, or an illicit trade China peddles. The U.N. is beyond useless, in other words, and is not going to resolve the imperialist ambitions of the Wahabi sect and its derivatives, so you CBC hacks can just hang up that tired old saw. Not buying it anymore.
The older I get, the more accurately I can see how far up their asses the Libranos and their sycophant 'journalists' have shoved their tiny heads. Similarly, what imbeciles they take us for.
Pearson's heroic episode in the Suez was fifty years ago. Get with the times, already Libranos.
Posted by: Shaken at June 30, 2008 5:41 PMphantom- Please don't get caught up in the misconception that our enemies are less brave than we are. It's not about bravery, or strength. It's about dedication, and the Taliban seems to have that in spades. It's going to end when they're wiped out, and we'll need to change a lot of attitudes for that task.
Posted by: dp at June 30, 2008 5:42 PMthen you are admiting that Afgani are not killing Canadian in large number
and you did kill them in large numbers because you are so dumbly brave to do so
or may afgani not like to Canadian or not even intention or not facilty are so poor not have bread to eat then this is shamful
you do not need to know alot to be old white guy you may know by what the fact say you only need to grow judgmental and judge people fairly not by color face and relgion to kill them
this is not call it brave this is call it supid discriminate them becaue you got idea brainwash from media that those poor people if they die your pboelms can resolve while your problem sis yourself and your culture not them think about it
Posted by: moss at June 30, 2008 5:52 PMSo many people think this war is about oil. It isn't. It's about bicycles.
We have plenty of oil right here at home, but we need to use up "their" oil first. That way we can make our oil off limits to "them", and they can ride bicycles. And really, who's afraid of a society that can't even get across town when it's raining?
The trans-Afghan pipeline is a very important piece of the puzzle, and will never be secure as long as the Taliban is free to sabotage it.
Posted by: dp at June 30, 2008 6:16 PM"you do not need to know alot to be old white guy you may know by what the fact say you only need to grow judgmental and judge people fairly not by color face and relgion to kill them"
Uh, "moss", the Taliban aren't being killed because they happen to have a different colour of skin or because they happen to pray to a different imaginary "god", they're being killed because they're TERRORISTS. I personally couldn't care less what colour you hapen to be, or even if you want to pray to Marsha your pet tapeworm, but these fanatics declared war on us first, so I'm not about to cry about it if they manage to find themselves on the wrong end of artillery fire.
Posted by: sdc at June 30, 2008 6:17 PMPerhaps there should be a mail campaign to the Auditor General regarding funding for the CBC?
Posted by: mark peters at June 30, 2008 6:18 PMAny type of success in Afstan is a direct affront to the CBC and its mindset, remember all the predictions of vietnam, quagmire, soviet defeat,etc.? They were practically drooling.
I suspect the JTF missions are particularly galling beause there is a deeply held lefty belief that only indigenous forces can fight this type of guerilla warfare. Once again, one of their cherished myths is destroyed.
I had the priviledge and honour of having a Canadian soldier serving in Afghanistan fishing with me last Thursday on my boat out of Port McNeill, BC. He told me in no uncertain terms the following:
He wishes every Canadian could see what the Canadian Forces are doing in Afghanistan - he said that right thinking Canadians would be very proud of their Army.
He also told me that the average Afghan hates the Taliban with an unbridaled passion. They are murderers, plain and simple.
He believes in the mission!
We need to support the troops. Period.
This reminds me of my female business partner, pre-2001, being interviewed at CBC for some consulting work. She asked a Radio-1 show host what it was like to be a "radio personality". The host told her in no uncertain terms that she was not a "radio personality", but a "social engineer". Need I say more?
I hafta go and get some Labatt Blue to show my support for our troops. Two birds, one stone.
Happy Canada day everybody!
Posted by: Kevin F. at June 30, 2008 6:52 PM"From the time Chretien sent our troops into afghanistan with lousy equipments and during the years the liberals were in office while our troops were in afghanistan, how many times during those years did CBC ever mention afghanistan its people taliban our troops etc.?"
The answer, Jen, is rarely, if ever. However, when that idiot Michael Byars was calling our troops war criminals, when Libridiots were trying to make political points placing our troops in even greater danger - well, they were all over that one.
I personally will do everything in my power to ensure people are aware of the slanders Dion and his band of clowns laid at our troops.
Posted by: Shamrock at June 30, 2008 7:01 PMSitting on the deck havin' a Lab Lite for our boys and girls in uniform right now.
Posted by: Free Thinker at June 30, 2008 7:16 PMThis crap really gets me going for reason I can't explain.
Posted by: JK at June 30, 2008 7:16 PMSpeaking of Dion.....I was given the opportunity to expand my writing horizon on a right leaning, left mocking blog based out of the U.S.
http://peacemoonbeam.typepad.com/
Check it out.
Syncro
p.s. Sorry for the off topic Kate but you did tell me to promote my site when you included me in the carnival of the newbies a couple of years ago.
Lesson learned and thanks for the bandwidth and the opportunity.
Syncro
Posted by: syncrodox at June 30, 2008 7:27 PMGeorge Orwell's Broadcasting Corporation
News:
Kamchatka, peninsula
September 1, 1983
Soviet heat seeking missile flying on a peaceful mission over Russian territory was hit in midair by a Korean jumbo jet 747 spy plane with 269 American spies on board. There was no loss of Soviet life in that incident but the missile however was completely destroyed
The CBC and National Film Board ( particularly heavily commie infested) have been (and still are) leftist propaganda organs in Canada, since the day of their first taxpayer funded inception.
I long for the day when
we as taxpayers will be unburdened from those two leftist state organs.
Now that the Senate option has been choked off for the leftist "lickspittle" journos, Al jazeera is their best new home.
Mansbridge, Kneel McDonald, Boag and Stewart can only hope Harper doesn't pull the CBC funding.
A good analysis. I happened to catch that "report" and was thoroughly disgusted by the report.
I'm also a little suspicious of the term "cilivian deaths." A few months ago, through work, I got a chance to spend several days with a nice young American who served two tours in Iraq and one in Afghanistan. He told me of an occassion where he killed a "civilian." Except this civilian was storing a cache of weapons for a family member who was part of the insurgency.
When the troops arrived to do a raid on the home, the man-of-the-house (who was, by all accounts not actively involved in the insurgency) opened fire on the US troops with a Dushka (for the uninitiated, that's a Russian-made anti-aircraft gun). My new acquaintance - under direct fire himself, put one through the guy's head.
There is no doubt that this man was, in his mind, protecting his home from a foreign army. He had a wife and several children and was only doing a family member a favor by storing some boxes for them. But, what else were the soldiers to do? They had been ordered to seize the cache and came under fire from something even more ominous than the handguns of Toronto.
Yet, it officially got chalked up as a "civilian death."
Makes you wonder how many more are like that.
Posted by: bryceman at June 30, 2008 8:49 PMMansbridge and Stewart are just auditioning for a shot at Governor General when the Natural Governing Party are back in power.
Now y'all in Saskatchewaaaan just shut yer yaps and get back to gettin' all that Wheat ready to sell to the Wheat Board so we can process it into pasta in Eastern Canada to be shipped via Canada Steamship Lines and sold to some murky Kazakhstan petroleum company with nebulous ties to the Shawinigan Strangler.
Posted by: Hex Murphy at June 30, 2008 8:51 PMI am puzzled why people even read randy moss's posts. By the end of the first line I'm scrolling, not to say I didn't try to read is comments at first. It was like trying to watch the Democratic primary debates; a whole bunch of BS that takes way too long.
Don't waste you figurative breath on this imbecile.
"don't argue with fools..."
which minister is responsible for CBCpravda anyway? maybe a good question in the house would be "why is the CBC losing so many to Al Jazeera, benefits, money, ideology?"
I think it would be a good subject for Rex Murphy to pontificate on.
Posted by: cal2 at June 30, 2008 10:18 PMIt's infuriating that our tax dollars fund this incompetent, biased and useless network. The way they spin a UN report that mostly deals with Taliban atrocities against civilians into an anti-military smear piece is disgusting.
Why do we need a public network anyway? What possible good do they do?
Posted by: Belisarius at June 30, 2008 10:33 PMdp said: "phantom- Please don't get caught up in the misconception that our enemies are less brave than we are. It's not about bravery, or strength."
dp, given that crap you said about the Governor General the other day, I'm surprised you have the nerve to even address me on this issue.
However, let us be clear. These enemies of ours are cowards. They hide behind women and children. They attack unarmed civilians. They run from the Americans and our guys like as not. The few times they work up the nerve to fight, they -lose-. Every. Single. Time.
Because they are not soldiers. They are fanatics. They are not civilized, they are barbarians. They are not dedicated, they are deluded.
The only possible way they can win is if OUR GOVERNMENT lets them. Only if our guys come home can they prevail. Otherwise they will get whittled away to nothing in a pretty short time, as the locals get organized and start rooting them out of their holes.
The CBC is helping Taliban scum with their propaganda campaign. Small wonder they keep losing staff to Al Jazeera.
Posted by: The Phantom at June 30, 2008 10:53 PMWell first of all, how JTF2 operates now is the same as it was under the Liberal govt. Recall the photo of JTF members escorting prisoners out of a helicopter back in 2001 or early 2002. It was initially reported as American, yet the photo was clearly Canada's newly introduced digital pattern.
When it comes to the media and the military, I don't think they have any experts on call or the time to consider the accuracy is trumped by the need to publish.
Regarding this CBC story, the info about Karazai being upset about civilian casualitites and the fooage of taliban using human shields and dressed as women is about a year old. To go back that far is poor.
I also don't think the Afghan people are stupid. They see the Taliban take their friends and family hostage and use them as shields and they know, just like you would, who is responsible for the crime.
And to finish, the biggest killer of Afghans is the taliban. It would be intersting to see a similiar story from the media talking about the substantially greater kill numbers of Afghans by the taliban and how it affects their support.
Posted by: iain at June 30, 2008 11:50 PMI care very little about the CBC and its clique of so-called journalists.
What I do care about is that this corporation gets close to a billion a year in tax dollars.
If the CBC truly wants to be free to pander to whatever leftwing kook fringe it wants then lets give them that ability....cut them off.
Without the fear of loss of funding hanging over their producers heads they could be truly free to produce whatever they want without the government looking over their shoulder.
Of course theres the little issue of paying for it on ad revenue alone.....which is kind of hard when the demographic that sponsers want don't want what CBC is showing...er yah Hockey Night in Canada...but what do they show for the rest of the time?
Perhaps thats the CBC's real fear. Not the defunding, but if they ever went on the block, the only folks that would be able to buy them would be those demanding their investment make money and not be a bastion of experimental arts projects which don't.
The change would be unbearable for them as the new editors would start sending the likes of Brian Stewart to some rural outpost to do farm reports, and replace Mansbridge with someone that just reported the facts not "interpreted" them for the great unwashed outside of the GTA.
Canada has the dimmest journalists on the face of the earth when it comes to things military.
Even the most neurotic leftie media hack in Europe at least understands how military forces operate.
Posted by: JJM at July 1, 2008 1:02 AM "Given what Labatt is doing for the CF this Canada Day, I'd encourage you to go buy some Blue for Canada Day tomorrow"
I'm torn here.
I support our troops but not some foreign multinational brewing cartel centered out of Brussels which is a major EU butt-snorkeller.
So NO, I wouldn't touch a Labatt corporate beverage (no it ain't beer folks) if my mouth was on fire.
There is no national Canadian owned corporate brewer left aside from Moosehead. The only true Canadian brewing is done by hundreds of local micro brewers these days. I suggest you give them your patronage this Dominion day.
I will however, raise a mug of fresh locally crafted Canadian micro-brew to the guys and gals in that craphole trying to bring peace to the region despite the best efforts of the Taliban and their CBC and NDP dhimmi allies.
Here's to you CAF!
Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at July 1, 2008 11:06 AMDear M.Redux...here's another reason why not to purchase Labatt products,some time ago,Labatts removed the canadian flag from all of it's products sold in Quebec as to not offend the populace.Don't know about now but back then you couldn't buy a brew with a maple leaf on it.Being an ex-paratrooper needless to say,but I will anyway,GO-ARMY!
Posted by: h.ryan. at July 1, 2008 1:58 PMThere's another reason why the cbc/liberals don't like JTF2,because the feeling is mutual.JTF2 members come from the airborne regiment who will never forget or forgive the liberals for closing them down.As well these guys know that if you scratch a cbc media type you get a liberal.
Posted by: h.ryan. at July 1, 2008 2:47 PMI heard about a brewers convention some time ago where all the big wigs from all the beer companies gather. At the end of the day Molsen, Labatts and Big Rock went out for a cold one. Molsen orders a Canadian, Labatts orders a Blue. Big Rock orders a Coke. Labatts and Molsen begin to laugh at Big Rock. Big Rock simply replies, "Well since you two aren't drinking beer I thought I should abstain too"!
Posted by: Joe at July 1, 2008 4:12 PMMansbridge has an agenda!
His brother Paul was a member of the forces who was court marshaled. Found guilty, severely reprimanded and fined. Unfortunately he was not discharged (thanks to the Helyer-Trudeau Junta he was retained and went on to cause mayhem but thankfully no loss of life even though he tried very hard.)
Paul was released and hates the Forces as does Pete. The story is a sad and not very good commentary on all concerned. I wanted him (Paul) dishonorably discharged and forced to pay for the destruction of government property to the tune of three quarters of a million dollars or so and a bunch of other charges as well.
Oh Canada!
Capt. Craig, my experience with Peter Mansbridge was quite different than the picture you paint. I have no idea what his personal feelings are about the CF, but I do know that about 15 years ago he did something very nice for a group of subordinate officers at RMC.
My squadron's mess dinner was coming up, and the folks organizing it mailed out dozens of letters to potential guest speakers, including ones we never thought would respond. We had only a token budget. Mansbridge not only said he'd come and speak, he waived his fee. His presentation was excellent, and he mingled with cadets and families alike before the dinner. He had to leave early - I would have liked to get him into a game of contact crud, but it wasn't to be - but the fact that he drove from Ottawa to Kingston, then back to Ottawa that same night, for free, said something about his character to me.
I'm not partial to his network, or to many of the people he works with, but I respect him.
Of course, your mileage may vary.
Posted by: Damian at July 4, 2008 3:55 PM