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June 19, 2008

The People Responsible For Your Childrens' Education

Toronto Sun;

The mother of an autistic girl says the public school board was "completely unprofessional" to formulate a theory that her daughter was being sexually abused based on a psychic's perception.

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Leduc said they advised her that Victoria's educational assistant (EA) had visited a psychic, who said a youngster whose name started with "V" was being sexually abused by a man between 23 and 26 years old. Leduc was also handed a list of recent behaviours exhibited by her daughter.


And why not? For years innocent people have been jailed and families torn apart on the basis of accusations derived from "recovered memory therapy". A psychic could hardly do worse.

Posted by Kate at June 19, 2008 12:32 AM
Comments

Global warming strikes again!

Posted by: shaken at June 19, 2008 1:40 AM

Hey! At least she wasn't breaking Miliars hand gun ban. Or was that a murder ban?
And this is what Tarana wants. They must. They keep voting socialist commie leftards in. Howza about a referandum in the ROC seeing if we want to boot Horritario out of Canada??

Posted by: Justthinkin at June 19, 2008 1:51 AM

Oh yes, great! Here we go again. A teacher's assistant, after visiting a psychic can call in a bureaucratic meddling machine (just like the Canadian Human Rights Commission) to destroy a family's life and reputation on a whim.
Comment from a disgusted and sympathetic father of a severely autistic son.

Posted by: Chris at June 19, 2008 1:53 AM

Sure it was "unprofessional" as "professionalism" has been used in the past, but what should one reasonably expect in an educational regime that holds "feelings" to be as valid a cause of action as "knowledge"?

It wasn't professional--but it was consistent.

Posted by: Ron Good at June 19, 2008 2:19 AM

First of all the one that really screwed up is the Principle. The principle should contacted social services immediately if there was a suspicion of abuse. It is not there job to look into these matters and I believe it is policy that Social Services is contacted first right across the country. It would be then up to Social services to decide if to look into the claim. The parents are never contacted because the school doesn't know who's doing the abuse. Some principles try to play god or don't want to raise a fuss, but it is in black and white that Social Services or Child welfare should be contacted immediately. The principle and the teachers aid should be both be given the boot.

Posted by: Archie at June 19, 2008 2:28 AM

Sure it was "unprofessional" as "professionalism" has been used in the past

Good point.

"Professional" only means that the person doing the task gets paid for doing so. It doesn't necessarily mean that there are ethics or morals or even logic used by the people performing the service.

Posted by: PiperPaul at June 19, 2008 2:48 AM

This is one of the craziest things I have ever read. I have a son who was diagnosed with autism a few years ago he is also blind and very rarely speaks now the doctors don't think he has autism, all his behavioral problems are related to the condition that has caused his lindness.(freekin quacks!)

I would be outraged if this happened to us and I am outraged that this happened the Leduc family. The EA contacted a psychic - Psychic says Oh my god! There is a girl whose name begins with "V" who is being sexually abused and the EA reports this to the Principal and Vice and they Call the CAS!! This is a South Park episode!

Posted by: Metal-Militia at June 19, 2008 2:58 AM


You people wonder why I think where heading towards a dark age? When a civilization takes this kind of stupidity as real than its only a matter of time before superstition overcomes rationality. A plague of physiatrists looking for ambulances. HRC's searching for bigots. All the while Canadian pay taxes for fools like this.

Did you know some very well known Wall street advisers use computer generated horoscopes for economic predictions? Next it will be omens that convict people. Maybe more Satanists in day care or ODIN contacting a social worker about hate crimes with abuse.

Posted by: Revnant Dream at June 19, 2008 3:02 AM

Archie: a psychic's story isn't evidence of anything.

The first person who really screwed up was the first person who made any decision based the word of a psychic. There was no reasonable suspicion of abuse, period.

Social Services should never have heard a word of any of this, and anyone who acted further on the fears of a psychic-scared Teaching Assistant should be...uh...given a...uh...time out.

A long one.

Posted by: Ron Good at June 19, 2008 3:03 AM

my friend the witch doctor he told me what to, my friend the witch doctor......... it was an old song.

Posted by: old white guy at June 19, 2008 5:13 AM

Wait, wait I am getting something.......

I see, a man, yes a big man with a big stick!

wait, he is walking, no running to catch a weasel, no its not a weasel he's catching, it just acts like a weasel...

it is really the principal, and wait, there are now more weasels, no, no wait - its the teachers and assistants as well, and also social workers.

And now I see the big man soundly thrashing all these weasel-like people with the big stick.

wait, there is one more weasel coming, no, wait - it is another person, OH SH*T, it is me (the psychic) ahhhh, he is beating me too, ahhh, damn that hurts!!!!

Posted by: Frenchie77 at June 19, 2008 6:32 AM

The EA should be seeing a psychiatrists not a psychic! And the teacher and the principal ought to be the next two in line.

Posted by: MikeM at June 19, 2008 7:45 AM

phychics have always had high regard in Canaduh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lyon_Mackenzie_King#Personal_life


oh yes. liberal when liberals still had some principles.

Posted by: cal2 at June 19, 2008 7:47 AM

The Education Act now lays the responsibility for reporting abuse or suspicions of abuse on the INDIVIDUAL teacher, not the principal, not the school, not the board.

Many teachers are loathe to report what might be abuse, as they will be personally responsible for the outcome. This is how the bureaucracy, now that litigation, or the threat of litigation, has become rampant, is dealing with the possibility of being sued: Hey, you can't sue the princicpal, school, or board, just the teacher.

Nothing surprises me anymore in the so-called "Educational" (sic) system, as it is overrun by touchy-feely lib-lefties who wouldn't know a conviction or principle if they tripped on them. It's all about the latest psychobabble fad and, if your family members are practising Christians, you're in their cross hairs.

As for an E[ducational] A[ssistant] consulting a psychic--hey, that's cool! That's the New Age way, which trumps sound judgment and professional discretion every time.

Parents need to be watch dogs every minute, a role I played to the hilt when my kids were in elementary school. I questioned everything, especially when the school was stepping into jurisdictions which should have been the responisiblity of families. I wasn't exactly liked by the school ;-) but I came to be respected in many quarters--and quite clearly feared by the admin. There were a lot of shenanigans that were either stopped or never got started in my kids' school because I watched and acted when something was out of line.

Too many parents trust the ed system--and they shouldn't. Too many parents are too busy to check out what's going on at their kids' schools. They need to be much more vigilant, ask questions, and suggest alternatives to the way things are--and risk being unpopular. Our schools have been invaded by body- and mind-snatchers and if parents aren't very intentional about what's acceptable and what's not, things are only going to get worse.

Kids are vulnerable. Parents need to be parents and protect their children. You can't rewind the tape, so keep an eagle eye out for what's happening in their classroom/school. If you don't, more and more of this kind of thing is going to happen. This incident is just the tip of the iceburg.

Posted by: batb at June 19, 2008 8:01 AM

batb is right on the money! I have had children in the public school system for over 15 years, and it is one leftard stunt after another.

I have had many run ins with the system, and I can tell you that they are not my biggest fans.

From telling my daughter to remove her Reform Party button(long time ago, and she chose to wear it to be like daddy)to trying to force feed AGW down my youngest daughter's throat, it has been one battle after another.

If they ever came after me based on the word of a "psychic", I can say with confidence that it would turn real ugly, real quick.

F@#$ing new age arseholes, their liberalism and their mamby pamby ways can go f@#$ themselves!

Posted by: kingstonlad at June 19, 2008 8:39 AM

A new low. How can anyone have any respect for Canadians when we put up with this crap.


"The father, who is divorced but has legal custody of his daughter, cut off her Internet access after she chatted on websites he had tried to block. She then used a friend's Internet connection to post inappropriate pictures of herself, Ms. Beaudoin said.

After discovering that, the father told his daughter she couldn't go on the three-day school trip, which ended yesterday. According to Ms. Beaudoin, the daughter "slammed the door" and went to live with her mother, who was willing to let her take the trip.

However, the school wouldn't allow the girl to go unless both parents consented or she obtained a court order. That prompted the girl, with her mother's support, to take legal action against her father, culminating in the ruling.

According to Ms. Beaudoin, Judge Tessier found that denying the trip was unduly severe punishment. The fact that the girl is now living with her mother also factored into the judge's ruling, she said."

Posted by: summom bonum at June 19, 2008 8:52 AM

A new low. How can anyone have any respect for Canadians when we put up with this crap.


"The father, who is divorced but has legal custody of his daughter, cut off her Internet access after she chatted on websites he had tried to block. She then used a friend's Internet connection to post inappropriate pictures of herself, Ms. Beaudoin said.

After discovering that, the father told his daughter she couldn't go on the three-day school trip, which ended yesterday. According to Ms. Beaudoin, the daughter "slammed the door" and went to live with her mother, who was willing to let her take the trip.

However, the school wouldn't allow the girl to go unless both parents consented or she obtained a court order. That prompted the girl, with her mother's support, to take legal action against her father, culminating in the ruling.

According to Ms. Beaudoin, Judge Tessier found that denying the trip was unduly severe punishment. The fact that the girl is now living with her mother also factored into the judge's ruling, she said."

Posted by: summom bonum at June 19, 2008 9:05 AM

test

Posted by: a different Bob at June 19, 2008 9:28 AM

"The process IS the punishment" is the applicable phrase here, I think. This is the kind of thing I have in mind when I say TAX CUT NOW!!!! It is very important to de-fund and dismantle these horrid little empires as quickly as possible. They don't prevent sexual abuse, but they do spread damage and paranoia among the population.

Ever notice how kids don't visit other kid's houses anymore? How you never see un-escorted children under the age of about 17 except at the movies or the mall? When I was a kid we took off on our bikes after breakfast and were never seen again until lunch. These days the kids don't play in their own yard unless Mummy is there guarding them.

Was it a huge increase in the number of pedophiles that caused that? Not according to the stats I've seen. The number of attacks on children by strangers is very small and stable over the years. What massively increased was the amount of surveillance children are subject to from the government bike-helmet police. It is NOT a change for the better.

And now, let me gaze into my crystal ball as I divine the university major this psychic employing teaching assistant took... I'm feeeeeeling it now... SHAZAM! The assistant is an unattractive 5'4", 250 pound female sea mammal who majored in English with a minor in Women's Studies.

Posted by: The Phantom at June 19, 2008 9:52 AM

This may be of interest.

"The new learning that failed
by Victor Davis Hanson
On the value of classical learning."
http://preview.tinyurl.com/58g32a

Posted by: maz2 at June 19, 2008 9:55 AM

The Phantom said:
"the amount of surveillance children are subject to from the government bike-helmet police."

While driving past a local school this scene caused a doubletake:

An unhatted, bareheaded, but, uniformed police officer (male) leading, on foot, a line of bike-helmeted school children around the schoolyard.

It's the BIG State: Get 'em young and you got 'em for life. (H/T Jesuitically trained PET)

"Today we have naming of parts. Yesterday, We had daily cleaning. And tomorrow morning, We shall have what to do after firing. But today, ... (Henry Reed)

Posted by: maz2 at June 19, 2008 10:09 AM

Wonder why home schooling and private schools have taken off in the past decade?

When you see psychotic social engineering like this take precedence over core education, you know the public education system has become terminally constipated with political indoctrinators and shy on real teachers.

Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at June 19, 2008 10:23 AM

In Canada, Neo-Druidism (New Age Gaiaism) is competing with "Human Rights" to be the new State Religion. I think we may have launched our two heirs and successors just in time for them to have avoided the worst of it. Will it take an economic catastrophe to put us back on a sane path?

Posted by: felis corpulentis at June 19, 2008 10:33 AM
When a civilization takes this kind of stupidity as real than its only a matter of time before superstition overcomes rationality.

I pray to God that never happens.

Posted by: Darrell at June 19, 2008 10:40 AM

Hey I saw that movie it had Tom Cruise in it.

Posted by: Right of centre at June 19, 2008 10:56 AM

What consequences will this EA face? And what consequences will the board face if the EA isn't disciplined?

It's one thing to be wrong, that's forgiveable, it's an entirely different thing to be frivolous and tear up the life of a family.

Posted by: RobertJago at June 19, 2008 11:06 AM

Some would have it that the lack of skepticism and scientific knowledge amongst the general population is relatively harmless. So what if someone believes in psychics or sasquatches or space aliens or snake oil? What harm does it do?

Well, it does a lot of harm. This story is just the tip of the iceberg.

Posted by: rabbit at June 19, 2008 11:33 AM

Wow, I can't believe this story!
Unfortunately, we here, in the USA, have had to put up with the same type of mistreatment from our "child protection" agencies. Greater than 90% of claims are completely false.

Posted by: Orlin at June 19, 2008 11:45 AM

Whatever happened to ADULTS ?

Posted by: OMMAG at June 19, 2008 12:23 PM

The good news is that the Toronto School Board will upgrade their Psychic-ESP investigations.
The method will involve TRUTHING any conclusions with the tried and true GOAT ENTRAILS tests, lauded in Guyanna and Surinam. 'bout time:)

Posted by: eastern paul at June 19, 2008 1:32 PM

FIRE.

THEM.

ALL.

Posted by: Nightmare at June 19, 2008 3:40 PM

the seven sense.

I see dumb people.

Posted by: cal2 at June 19, 2008 3:57 PM

Phantom is right on the money. I'm only relieved this occurence was north of the 49th for a change.

Posted by: iowavette at June 19, 2008 4:47 PM

felis, it will take a catastrophe of biblical proportions to even get the masses thinking we might have a problem.

Posted by: old white guy at June 19, 2008 4:48 PM

I agree with so many here. Yes, our public education systems are a lot like the HRCs. One difference: there are protocols that are supposed to be followed. 'Problem is, as far as the administrators are concerned, they very often ignore protocol and there is NO accountability.

In this case, the principal and highers-up will contrive to just move on. The EA's union—CUPE, I think—will do everything to obfuscate and protect the EA.

The whole system's a complete mess. And batb is altogether correct: the responsibility to report to the CAS—as PC indoctrinated, deluded, and useless, but dangerous a group as could be imagined—has been downloaded to the teachers. There are definitely parental reprisals when a teacher does report: the process is supposed to be confidential but the parent usually suspects the teacher. And, why not, as it’s the teacher’s responsibility, no one else’s, to report. Are there any protocols in place to protect the teacher from the harassment of disgruntled, usually bully parents—the kind one reports? NO. If a teacher asks administration to deal with harassment following a report, does admin. step in? NO. Once a teacher has been through this particular mill, guess how many are willing to report again? (“No, I didn’t notice anything untoward.” And, guess what? With a zero tolerance rubric, most situations aren’t worth a report.) Yes, the punishment is the process.

Good for the girl’s parents for going straight to the press: this is a huge embarrassment to the idiots “in charge” of this board. But, the powers that be have all kinds of discretion and all kinds of ways to make life difficult for this family in future. Hopefully, the press exposure will give this family some immunity from the gulag’s punishments. As I said, the whole system’s a mess. It’s like quicksand: once one realizes one’s caught, the ability to get out is about zilch. Dissenting parent voices—I’ve been there too—are bulldozed.

Definitely, our kids are being propagandized to go along with the PC fairy tales of the HRCs: there are legions of Khurrum Awans waiting in the wings . . . ’Not at all a pretty picture.

Posted by: lookout at June 19, 2008 5:22 PM

OMMAG: "Whatever happened to ADULTS ?"

Well, OMMAG, let me tell you a bedtime story...

...once upon a time, adults were adults. That meant parents, teachers, principals, school trustees, preachers, politicians, provincial premiers, and prime ministers.

Then, something awful happened: Wymyn's, feminists', New Age, and AGW studies replaced classical studies at the unies, radical feminists took over the schools, politics, the media and the churches, and, possibly worst of all, moms left home, en masse, to make money for the State, which meant that no one was home.

Then, kids were expected to grow up real fast.

And now, the adults are the kids and the kids are supposed to be the adults.

And they lived dystiopiously ever after...

Posted by: batb at June 19, 2008 5:22 PM

...or should that be dystopianly ever after...?

Posted by: batb at June 19, 2008 5:24 PM

OMMAG and batb, you've got it. The Nanny State infantalizes everyone. The kids are less mature--in an accountable, responsible way--than they used to be, and SO ARE THE ADULTS! Lack of accountability does that to people.

We're in BIG trouble . . .

Posted by: lookout at June 19, 2008 5:27 PM

Darrell wrote:
" When a civilization takes this kind of stupidity as real than its only a matter of time before superstition overcomes rationality.

I pray to God that never happens."

You broke my irony meter. Well done!

Posted by: b_nichol at June 19, 2008 5:48 PM

Only idiots would send their kids to the public school system.

Posted by: Fred Fredison at June 19, 2008 6:51 PM

Glad you brought up the irony b_nichol.

The same people that want the Bible out of schools take the word of psychics to tear apart a family?

Posted by: bluetech at June 19, 2008 6:56 PM

"Glad you brought up the irony b_nichol.
The same people that want the Bible out of schools take the word of psychics to tear apart a family?"

Besides there being no evidence of either, I think you missed Darrel's point; he cleverly juxtaposes rationality with one form of superstition, and then expresses an overt action of another form of superstition. It's kind of like saying 'Thank God I'm an atheist'.

Posted by: b_nichol at June 19, 2008 7:11 PM

b_nichol...

Too many assumptions.

I'll leave it at that.

Posted by: bluetech at June 19, 2008 7:36 PM

Yeah, well.

Trace the kind of idiocy we're dealing with back to...when the Lord's prayer and the reading of Scripture were prohibited in the schools--whereas every other "faith" was legitimized and permitted.

There IS a connection, for sure, bluetech.

But who's connecting the dots...?

Posted by: batb at June 19, 2008 7:37 PM

my friend the witch doctor he told me what to, my friend the witch doctor......... it was an old song.

Ooo eee, ooo ah ah, ting tang, walla walla bing bang

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOAvPLVvreY&feature=related

Posted by: PiperPaul at June 19, 2008 8:21 PM

I agree with Phantom. I'm happy to say that we give our kids about the same freedom I had when I was a kid(maybe a little less). My 8 year old checks in at 3:30 for a snack and then she's gone!(to the park) This culture of fear drives me up the wall, I'm a little susceptible but usually logic prevails. I often ask myself "In all my years how many kids in my hood have been abducted by creeps?" and the answer is always the same: 0.

We are pulling our youngest daughter out of public ed. this year and putting her in private school. The school is unwilling to challenge her because of her aptitude. That is only the main reason for moving her. My kid has been told that "Americans hate the environment and they all dump their garbage in lakes", and she's been told that "GWB is worse than Hitler ever was" by her teacher. Fortunately she's a keener and can already smell the BS, she will check numerous sources on her own.

Posted by: Indiana Homez at June 19, 2008 9:00 PM

This is just sick. The poor mother. I hope she sues.

This is one of the things that is wrong with public education. It's great to teach the "Virtue of the Month", and try to model good character traits with your students, and many Principals are doing a great job.

But they are divorcing it from the foundation that our society was built on--liberty, justice, and rationalism, that stem from a Judeo-Christian tradition. If we throw that out the window and talk all we want about being nice to each other, but not WHY it's important, then we're left only with feelings.

And that's why so many in the public system have lost critical thinking abilities. This principal is a prime example. They have empathy, but they have no ability to use logic. And that's just tragic.

Posted by: SheilaG at June 20, 2008 3:15 PM
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