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June 16, 2008

How Arabs deal with troublesome immigrants

Western countries aren't the only ones that have to confront crime in immigrant communities. It's interesting to see how an Arab country like Bahrain reacts to a brutal murder by a Bangladeshi immigrant:

Bahrain will not renew the work permits of thousands of Bangladeshis working in the Gulf state, in a ban expected to heavily impact the nation’s construction industry.
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The government officials have repeatedly claimed Bangladeshi immigrants are behind the nation’s growing crime problems.

Bahrain MP Abdul Halim Murad had called on the government to “put a timetable for the deportation of Bangladeshi labourers from Bahrain after their repeated involvement in murders and other crimes”.


One less pavilion in Bahrain's folkfest.

h/t

Posted by Jaeger at June 16, 2008 8:40 PM
Comments

Those racist Bahrainians.... /sarc

Posted by: mark peters at June 16, 2008 9:06 PM

One less pavilion in Bahrain's folkfest

hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaha

Posted by: Honey Pot at June 16, 2008 9:10 PM

One less pavilion in Bahrain's folkfest.

Tell me it not true!

Posted by: Orlin at June 16, 2008 9:11 PM

Where is the UN's human rights watchdogs on this issue?

Oops....sorry....I forgot they're currently far too engrossed in nagging Britain to eliminate it's monarchy.

Posted by: Canadian Observer at June 16, 2008 9:27 PM

No human rights pavilion for you Bahrain
Be assured though if possible we will allow Barbara Hall's Unique experiance on these issues as a free agent to help you sort out your problems with immigrants. Indeed Canadians beg you keep her there for good. We just can't wait to see her as an advocate of Womens & Gay's in your fair Nation. Her wisdom could perhaps meld nicely with Islamist thought or sharia law.

Posted by: Revnant Dream at June 16, 2008 9:37 PM

In neighboring Kuwait after the Gulf War, the Kuwaiti government kicked out about 250,000 Palestinians who had been performing mostly construction and service jobs. During the Iraqi occupation of Kuwait, many Palestinians turned on their Kuwaiti masters, looting homes and businesses. After the Americans kicked out the Iraquis, the Kuwaitis kicked out the Palestinians. Muslims from east Asia were brought as replacement labor. I guess that didn't work out too well either.

Posted by: Mystery Meat at June 16, 2008 9:57 PM

But,but,but, This cannot be true! The follwers of the Religion of Peace would never harm their fellow man! It has got to be a GWB/CIA plot to cast asperations upon the great Muslim teachings of joy and peace. I am calling my HRC right away. These heathen,sons-of-pigs Bahrainians must be taught what manners and multi-culturalism is all about.

Posted by: Justthinkin at June 16, 2008 10:22 PM

Whew. Just read my 10:22. Sorry folks. I think I was channeling hayes/townns/whatever and missed the English > goat latin > English + expand exponetionally part. That's a relief. Though I was losing it for a moment.

Posted by: Justthinkin at June 16, 2008 10:25 PM

What a bunch of knuckle dragging red necks those disgusting Bahrainis are! They don’t know a thing about other cultures or cultural sensitivity. The UN should demand an embargo to and from Bahrain and force them to see the light of a beautiful rainbow world.

Only once Bahrain adopts an affirmative action program allowing more rights than it’s citizens to Bangladeshi’s and places ALL Bangladeshis in positions of power, then the world should be comfortable trading with them and lift the sanctions.

No tolerance for intolerance (brought to you by the liberal left).

Posted by: Knight 99 at June 16, 2008 10:28 PM

I dont understand your email Knight.

Who are you mad at and why?

Posted by: Right of centre at June 16, 2008 10:33 PM

.....and then we say that these counties are backwards.........we should be so lucky....everytime I listen to the CBC and they say that the crime rate is down.....another 2..3 murders have occured..deport the bastards !!!

Posted by: Squiggy at June 16, 2008 10:51 PM

Right of centre>

Hmmm, I suppose it was hastily written and “out in left field” if you missed the intent.

The comment was supposed to be a sarcastic “tongue in cheek” stab at the multicultural crowd that has no real grasp of the effects of multiculturalism in the long term. Bahrain obviously understands and has taken measures to protect themselves.

I’m trashing the same people that like to call conservative thought “knuckle dragging red necks” without ever getting past their feelings and considering rational thought.

The same people who will overlook the deportation of Bangladeshi’s from Bahrain as a solution to a problem, but will consider criticism of unskilled immigrant crime in the west, as intolerant, culturally insensitive, and racist. Even thinking it, much less voicing an opinion as per the “thought crimes” provisions of section 13 of the Canadian HRC.

Posted by: Knight 99 at June 16, 2008 11:12 PM

I do not know about Bahrain but I know about Dubai
should be similar

Indian, Pakistan, and serilanka and Bangeladesh are getting work permit only or majority of them for a year
lower job was given to bangeladesh

like dish wash or taxi for tourist

immigration is difficult but can not deport them
but if worker with workpermit do crime can deport them

in summer and spring they have pavilion like Toronto Exhibition but 3 times bigger location and each country has a boot and do shows
an sell cheap their country stuffs
taht pavilion belong to government to govermnet trade show
if two goverment has issue not let they come for that show

there is culture differnt between Pakastani,indian and Bangeladesh with arb culture
most Bangelash are hindu are notMuslim

but what i saw they culture issue over work adn time of hour and those get high paid money in Bahrain but not follow the law in Bahrain

amount of theft in Duabi is almost zero and crime induabi and Bahrain to attract more tourist to come and if those banglesh not listne to law of Islam they will deport them

since killing, rapping, drugs, theft are big crime in those arab countreis and my guess is they do too much crime they want to scare them tonot do if they deport somework permit guys
the rest listen
plus those area if not cut crime the country is small turn to barbarin country

Posted by: haye at June 17, 2008 1:18 AM

haye = "most Bangelash are hindu are not Muslim"

All Bangladeshis that are Hindu are not muslim.

However most Bangladeshies are muslim.

Posted by: RFC at June 17, 2008 1:43 AM

ya well I'd like to make rapping big crime too haye. killing and drugs are already big crime.

Posted by: kelly at June 17, 2008 1:49 AM

I get that many posters are not fans of immigration.

I understand the fustration that many feel as well.

But are there real Canadian stats or research to back up these feelings? I am more than interested myself to see them. Somedays I catch myself thinking things that I would call bigoted(sp). I want to know am I justified to feel this way?

Posted by: Right of centre at June 17, 2008 1:54 AM

R of C

I think it is painfully obvious that when you import large quantities of immigrants (who are culturally different from the native inhabitants) and are not encouraged to integrate, you will have a certain amount of friction and animosity towards said imports. Add to this the inherent cowardice of our political system and the average Joe's fear of the jack-booted socialist justice system (aka HRC's and the their socialist PC boosters) and you have a receipt for disaster.
I believe that due to previous governments failed socialist experimentation and outright negligence, Canada, will face its moment of civil unrest, whether it be from the ghettoized immigrants or the native population is yet to be seen. In the end no one wins, not the immigrants, not the native inhabitants, not the country.

Posted by: missing link at June 17, 2008 2:29 AM

haye very stupid, say most not muslim, haye suffer from wilful ignorance, not like to say most muslim bigots, proven time after time by action, not word. Piss be upon him.
Muslim 83%, Hindu 16%, other 1% (1998)

Posted by: moinhellroastingslowly at June 17, 2008 2:43 AM

Right of centre>

I doubt that most Canadian or posters on this site are anti immigration. I believe they are anti “unselective” immigration. Meaning “not race” but selecting skilled peoples from other countries that truly promote growth and are beneficial to Canada.

This includes integration programs into Canadian societies, along with possibly something akin to an “Oath of Allegiance” that is binding to existing Canadian laws, not “diversity” programs. Canada is a strong economic fortress that doesn’t need to be helped by third world standards or to be fragmented into a microcosm of the world’s problems.

“are there real Canadian stats or research to back up these feelings”

Absolutely NOT this is Canada all racial and ethnic data related to crime is censored and an outrageous offence to the politically correct.

You need to source out statistics in other countries such as the US FBI crime reports unfettered with grossly misrepresented political correctness (only a little).


http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/cvict_v.htm


Posted by: Knight 99 at June 17, 2008 2:43 AM

Sorry for the OT...but comments are down for readers tip and Kate's next post for June 17th :(

Posted by: Justthinkin at June 17, 2008 5:31 AM

"Author Peter Schweizer wanted to know if there could be a link between a person’s political leanings and illegal drug use. His eye-opening finding: Liberals are five times more likely than conservatives to use marijuana and cocaine."
http://newsmax.com/insidecover/Liberals_Drug_use/2008/06/16/104882.html

Posted by: Alan at June 17, 2008 9:07 AM

But remember those are non arab followers of Islam....there is a strong thread of Arab Supremecy running through Arab thought, regardless of religon.

But the silence is amazing. Look at the trouble we are having changing a simple faily reunification law to be like Australia, where you get in because you have skills not because you can trace a non direct bloodline to an exisiting immigrant.

Posted by: Stephen at June 17, 2008 9:20 AM

The main problems in middle east is security in Canada you only see security and scan machine in special office while in middle east all govermnet building has scan machine to prevent terroirs and may be norh america need to have one
more security room before enteranc

people and neighbour are watching crime to get stop again in canada neighbour are not talk to each other to keep their area safer

people see some picutre while some picture of small kid show in terror I can recognize they are kordish comonist not Muslim kordihs live in so some of them barbain and do bad awful way of killing muslim and crime and still want indepency while I belive they will bring more barbarin those comonist in asia and middle east if they grow theyuse I do notbelive god to kill more

I know in Bahrin and dubi are too many hindo live I bleive if I made mistake about Bangladesh it may be sirilanka or other similare country who has more hindo than Muslim they are all look dark Indian and we can hardly reconginze them we think all are Indian Muslim while when you talk to them their culture are different you will get they are hindu or sik live in ,middle east and tehy are very rich too picture of look muslimm can fool people that every body weare arab dress are Muslim while they can be Christian or everydark look indian may be hindu
I find them hindu are verykind people but sic group are tough to deal with them notlisten to law too they are not clean in job too

can we say I want to be good in these days and who care about my neighbor or next my neighbor country No it is imposible
you can not put the law and bring work permit peopel to mess with your law and increase crime in local then you can not get control of them

human right missing in middle east vs. other countires law are conflict
what I mean there is not freedom of speech in area while if goverment let freedom of speech go then it turn to hate crime soon and start treat of kill each other and then for some times goverment open freedom and let too many group talk then it turn to bombing locally close them and arrest all and some of free guy also killed for abuse of goverment to kill them intentionaly therefore we can say goverment in midle east is not able to control area wll and if give freedom people get advantage and if real freedom not hate crime goes just oppsition identify the person and arrest them and kill them in hiden in jail therefore major problem sin middle is human right and constiturion right to let peopel know the system

and we can say on other hand kingdom of Arab and may be we can blame English kinddom in the same respec may cuase that kingdom in general is not good we can let king and queesn stay and sent motion to parlement with not vots of pettion once a month but kingdom isnot work and they are abuse power in middle east in Saudi and arab world today king need to reducepower and some king need real job to do and not able tocontrol all or eveything
system of policit is more complicated that kingdom can easy to work unless they get education not their children in drugs and adultry and we expect to have good king in future

if you are good king today not necessary your son can continue your job or has or may had good brain in politic to do so.

kingdom in middle east shooudl get more seperated but can have vote to bring motion to parlement to listen and parlement made decision and there is not reason one person seat and collect moeny of their people as king thisis nonsense

now capital punishment can be abuse and mismanage too since you are related to world
if all world in corruption and too many illegal capital punsihmetn is nto allow in Islam means you can not simplypunsih hungry man who steal in Islam law first you have to provide system before punishments
I bleive capital punishement must stop unless all world get more control and educated and get related in more security
druges all are should be big guys like CIA behind it how come CIA know all news can not stopthe drugs simply they are behind this drugs or corruption in army in USA in general will cause all organixe crime to get or may develop
we need law and decipline and stick to law to stop the crime

means you need freedom of speen not hate crime and will order to kill we need law to reduce crime and we need good ecominc development to feed the world and we need education to reduce anger and commnication
is religion of world has key tohelp this work problaby isalm relgion has some rules and North american has some rule can work together
but if you free to talk then Israli or USA or Muslim radical identify you to kill you this is also need to proteced by human right and constituion right while this right are not seems to get control since kingdom and dictorship live in middle eastand politic live in Europe and corrption in army in USA not let it happen since people are related and not work together well
is this time to stop thinkging what direction people need to stop crime yes is this time to continue to capital punishiment inside country or go to war to kill the criminal I do not think so since socity are not educated enough to get the point to undersand this is crime
people say death to eath other angrily while thismust be stop sooner or later by hate crime if we can reduce anger and frustration we save the world
crime, druges and alcohol and sexss will destroy human right

Posted by: haye at June 17, 2008 9:58 AM

The main problems in middle east is security in Canada you only see security and scan machine in special office while in middle east all govermnet building has scan machine to prevent terroirs and may be norh america need to have one
more security room before enteranc

people and neighbour are watching crime to get stop again in canada neighbour are not talk to each other to keep their area safer

people see some picutre while some picture of small kid show in terror I can recognize they are kordish comonist not Muslim kordihs live in so some of them barbain and do bad awful way of killing muslim and crime and still want indepency while I belive they will bring more barbarin those comonist in asia and middle east if they grow theyuse I do notbelive god to kill more

I know in Bahrin and dubi are too many hindo live I bleive if I made mistake about Bangladesh it may be sirilanka or other similare country who has more hindo than Muslim they are all look dark Indian and we can hardly reconginze them we think all are Indian Muslim while when you talk to them their culture are different you will get they are hindu or sik live in ,middle east and tehy are very rich too picture of look muslimm can fool people that every body weare arab dress are Muslim while they can be Christian or everydark look indian may be hindu
I find them hindu are verykind people but sic group are tough to deal with them notlisten to law too they are not clean in job too

can we say I want to be good in these days and who care about my neighbor or next my neighbor country No it is imposible
you can not put the law and bring work permit peopel to mess with your law and increase crime in local then you can not get control of them

human right missing in middle east vs. other countires law are conflict
what I mean there is not freedom of speech in area while if goverment let freedom of speech go then it turn to hate crime soon and start treat of kill each other and then for some times goverment open freedom and let too many group talk then it turn to bombing locally close them and arrest all and some of free guy also killed for abuse of goverment to kill them intentionaly therefore we can say goverment in midle east is not able to control area wll and if give freedom people get advantage and if real freedom not hate crime goes just oppsition identify the person and arrest them and kill them in hiden in jail therefore major problem sin middle is human right and constiturion right to let peopel know the system

and we can say on other hand kingdom of Arab and may be we can blame English kinddom in the same respec may cuase that kingdom in general is not good we can let king and queesn stay and sent motion to parlement with not vots of pettion once a month but kingdom isnot work and they are abuse power in middle east in Saudi and arab world today king need to reducepower and some king need real job to do and not able tocontrol all or eveything
system of policit is more complicated that kingdom can easy to work unless they get education not their children in drugs and adultry and we expect to have good king in future

if you are good king today not necessary your son can continue your job or has or may had good brain in politic to do so.

kingdom in middle east shooudl get more seperated but can have vote to bring motion to parlement to listen and parlement made decision and there is not reason one person seat and collect moeny of their people as king thisis nonsense

now capital punishment can be abuse and mismanage too since you are related to world
if all world in corruption and too many illegal capital punsihmetn is nto allow in Islam means you can not simplypunsih hungry man who steal in Islam law first you have to provide system before punishments
I bleive capital punishement must stop unless all world get more control and educated and get related in more security
druges all are should be big guys like CIA behind it how come CIA know all news can not stopthe drugs simply they are behind this drugs or corruption in army in USA in general will cause all organixe crime to get or may develop
we need law and decipline and stick to law to stop the crime

means you need freedom of speen not hate crime and will order to kill we need law to reduce crime and we need good ecominc development to feed the world and we need education to reduce anger and commnication
is religion of world has key tohelp this work problaby isalm relgion has some rules and North american has some rule can work together
but if you free to talk then Israli or USA or Muslim radical identify you to kill you this is also need to proteced by human right and constituion right while this right are not seems to get control since kingdom and dictorship live in middle eastand politic live in Europe and corrption in army in USA not let it happen since people are related and not work together well
is this time to stop thinkging what direction people need to stop crime yes is this time to continue to capital punishiment inside country or go to war to kill the criminal I do not think so since socity are not educated enough to get the point to undersand this is crime
people say death to eath other angrily while thismust be stop sooner or later by hate crime if we can reduce anger and frustration we save the world
crime, druges and alcohol and sexss will destroy human right

Posted by: haye at June 17, 2008 10:00 AM

The main problems in middle east is security in Canada you only see security and scan machine in special office while in middle east all govermnet building has scan machine to prevent terroirs and may be norh america need to have one
more security room before enteranc

people and neighbour are watching crime to get stop again in canada neighbour are not talk to each other to keep their area safer

people see some picutre while some picture of small kid show in terror I can recognize they are kordish comonist not Muslim kordihs live in so some of them barbain and do bad awful way of killing muslim and crime and still want indepency while I belive they will bring more barbarin those comonist in asia and middle east if they grow theyuse I do notbelive god to kill more

I know in Bahrin and dubi are too many hindo live I bleive if I made mistake about Bangladesh it may be sirilanka or other similare country who has more hindo than Muslim they are all look dark Indian and we can hardly reconginze them we think all are Indian Muslim while when you talk to them their culture are different you will get they are hindu or sik live in ,middle east and tehy are very rich too picture of look muslimm can fool people that every body weare arab dress are Muslim while they can be Christian or everydark look indian may be hindu
I find them hindu are verykind people but sic group are tough to deal with them notlisten to law too they are not clean in job too

can we say I want to be good in these days and who care about my neighbor or next my neighbor country No it is imposible
you can not put the law and bring work permit peopel to mess with your law and increase crime in local then you can not get control of them

human right missing in middle east vs. other countires law are conflict
what I mean there is not freedom of speech in area while if goverment let freedom of speech go then it turn to hate crime soon and start treat of kill each other and then for some times goverment open freedom and let too many group talk then it turn to bombing locally close them and arrest all and some of free guy also killed for abuse of goverment to kill them intentionaly therefore we can say goverment in midle east is not able to control area wll and if give freedom people get advantage and if real freedom not hate crime goes just oppsition identify the person and arrest them and kill them in hiden in jail therefore major problem sin middle is human right and constiturion right to let peopel know the system

and we can say on other hand kingdom of Arab and may be we can blame English kinddom in the same respec may cuase that kingdom in general is not good we can let king and queesn stay and sent motion to parlement with not vots of pettion once a month but kingdom isnot work and they are abuse power in middle east in Saudi and arab world today king need to reducepower and some king need real job to do and not able tocontrol all or eveything
system of policit is more complicated that kingdom can easy to work unless they get education not their children in drugs and adultry and we expect to have good king in future

if you are good king today not necessary your son can continue your job or has or may had good brain in politic to do so.

kingdom in middle east shooudl get more seperated but can have vote to bring motion to parlement to listen and parlement made decision and there is not reason one person seat and collect moeny of their people as king thisis nonsense

now capital punishment can be abuse and mismanage too since you are related to world
if all world in corruption and too many illegal capital punsihmetn is nto allow in Islam means you can not simplypunsih hungry man who steal in Islam law first you have to provide system before punishments
I bleive capital punishement must stop unless all world get more control and educated and get related in more security
druges all are should be big guys like CIA behind it how come CIA know all news can not stopthe drugs simply they are behind this drugs or corruption in army in USA in general will cause all organixe crime to get or may develop
we need law and decipline and stick to law to stop the crime

means you need freedom of speen not hate crime and will order to kill we need law to reduce crime and we need good ecominc development to feed the world and we need education to reduce anger and commnication
is religion of world has key tohelp this work problaby isalm relgion has some rules and North american has some rule can work together
but if you free to talk then Israli or USA or Muslim radical identify you to kill you this is also need to proteced by human right and constituion right while this right are not seems to get control since kingdom and dictorship live in middle eastand politic live in Europe and corrption in army in USA not let it happen since people are related and not work together well
is this time to stop thinkging what direction people need to stop crime yes is this time to continue to capital punishiment inside country or go to war to kill the criminal I do not think so since socity are not educated enough to get the point to undersand this is crime
people say death to eath other angrily while thismust be stop sooner or later by hate crime if we can reduce anger and frustration we save the world
crime, druges and alcohol and sexss will destroy human right

Posted by: haye at June 17, 2008 10:00 AM

Would you please shut up?

Posted by: The Phantom at June 17, 2008 10:27 AM

haye,

Once again, you're full of shit. Like most Muslims you probably believe 9/11 was a Zionist job as well.

"most Bangelash are hindu are notMuslim"

In the early 1970's, East Pakistan Muslims aided by the Pakistani army ran a pogram against the Hindus, butchering 2 million. So, now most of Bangledesh is Muslim. Thanks primarily to your 'religions' intolerance and hatred towards polytheists.

Canadian government and its agencies do not publish negative statistics based on race. For example, the Toronto Police Department has statistics on the high murder rate commited by Jamaicans that it was not able to release to the press. The Toronto Star reported on this several years ago.

But once in a while things slip out. A year ago the CBC reported their findings on Muslims in Canada. Though they tried to spin it like Muslims are an unusually peacefull people - statistics showed that a full 27% agreed with the intentions of the Toronto 18 and preferred Sharia law in Canada.

So, yes, any rational Canadian, based on all the information provided (Muslims account for 70% of the prison population in Spain: 50% in France and so on), including Islamic texts and Mohammad's life example, would agree that Muslim immigration must be stopped.

Posted by: irwin daisy at June 17, 2008 10:31 AM

Like the old farmer said, "haye is the first stage of horsesh*t."

Posted by: gordinkneehill at June 17, 2008 12:42 PM

haye may be full of it but we should commend him for his remarkable ability to learn another language in such a short period of time,it must be tiring to post long messages and then intentionally screw it up to make one think he's muslim.Please not make post too long,it make me not read it.

Posted by: h.ryan. at June 17, 2008 1:01 PM

I did not notice this blogs had server problmes it post repeat of my messages strangly

the statistic Irwin said is not attachment or reference to it

plus as you as few bad jerkss candian citizen can not handle Muslim with other language and accent in the same respect some bad Muslim like you is there that slander nonMuslim in any view or opinion if we only think we change this blog to muslim blogs and you switch my charter to Irwin Character tehy reace with f and b word
to calm their hate down

now I am here that you used to ordinaly Muslim
soon your hate will change and you will used to hear Muslim with no hate words

i do no blame sep 11 is Jewish job was I bleive it was internal corruotion of USA army is not MUSLIM if it is muslim new investigation will clear it up we want to knwo the truth

I bleive Jeiwhs Sahinosim has big influence in defame Islam for their immigration of them to Palatin
if Isrelai belive they bother by Hitler and get immmigrant to P alatin then why thy took their countyr nd kill them with them smae method Hitler did to them
it proof German were in those period all of them racistit it does not mater german chrisitna or german Jewish because german jewish who wnet to Isreal has so many option based on Canada or USA or german wall or Russi to made choice but they are greedy want all the plastin and more land to steal it under religion the same thing Sadam attacked Keiwit use relgion for steal land of Kewith
nothing German Jewish in Isreal did that they deserve so much respct and fund from USA
and nothign Muslim Palstinina did that they deserve like Candian Indian are were live in Canad you must think Paltin live in that region and stop the way for stop the war

Muslim and Isalm is usual thing who made unusual are racist and ignorant people like you Irwin
who told you to anser my comment
I belive we made this clear that you are not suppose to answer to my comment
my comment is for smart peopel not you

Phantum I saw your blogs i bleive in yor freedom of speech you like to see your view by force not others some caandain freedom of speech teach by Jeiwsh Ezra Levent to seperte france from English Canadian or seperte Palstin in two for favor of Isrelai and seperate world of relgion for favor of moses not other prophet taht is paly of game of jewish as their culture teach them play the game
if black in Canda are criminal you must see that why may be nto thier relgion may be you do not give them job and discriminat them and they felel has not self confidence to do crime aggin black african has their own povery and rate of high crime and they bring their bad culture to Canda that is ntohhing to dowith their relgion
you are defame Islam not need to answer me thanks for good polite remark this is free to say all words and disrespect all Candains

Posted by: haye at June 17, 2008 3:08 PM

I read 'judge sentence alta ..hooker killer..'

today in web
you will see the crime
you do not find real roat for those crime

if gay sleep with other gay what happend with excess woman thos woman msut become lesbian or prositiutr if not lucky to find husband to marry with

this is change human and its habitat to pleaser or change all woman get abuse here

look from childhood going swiming boys and girls and then go togehter in school while girl are mature ealrier than boys then graduation paty huging boyes and girls and dancing is ok is only starting for innocent kids to go to sexual active
going to their paretns to beach and party dance and christimas parties and wearing boys and gilrs revealing cloth is step one to go in wrong

when you let prostitution some get register as small busienss did you ask them how many men per day go with them you made woamn as animal and who can be children of prostiture fore sure all porns adult moviss

go higher leve like fashion tv and modeling and picutre in magazine and playbosyss and if they are lucky they go to supermodle show to take their cloth to show their body and if not flitring telephon line and they can act as bachlor parties and escoret to parties or lemosine cares then you have level for protituation this not badkind or actore take theirclohte off for 20 million per film

you can see your culture are abusive woman from early to high and worth level and this is men who ddi crime agains humint to let woman act like
this and so many childen born with no father
then do not come and talk about crime
before you educate using some god as reference to fix humunity for corrution

even I read Mr. THomson Ruters big richest man in Canada send divorce paper to his wife while she was still in hospital for birth day of his child to move to new actor who touch with too many men to leavehsi wife in hospital with child to go otehr actor touched with toomany men then no morlity in men exisitn in all level of education
may be we can see may be mid class men in Canada still kepp their family value while they are in treat to loose them if not keep socity safe enobu
all dance partie and going to baskeballs shows why those gilrs are jump up or down to show their panties you are ok with it but not all men are ok with it fun in cultue of North america like worst place Denmark to not have value to woman in real fact of it then you made your boys and girls to abuse and corrupt and made scene to criminal to touch it the fault is your socity as first and second degree fault is for criminla

Posted by: haye at June 17, 2008 3:25 PM

So, what's OUR problem?

'Time to ship back all immigrants who break the law in Canada, if they're not yet Canadian citizens. We've got a lot of these guys on our streets and in our prisons, who've brought old hostilities and vendettas with them. Why should Canadian taxpayers feed and clothe them, provide them with free medical and dental care--with many of their family members living off the dole--while too many of us, law-abiding citizens, work hard and struggle to meet all of our financial obligations?

There's something SO wrong with this picture, there shouldn't even have to be a discussion. I'm trying to picture my grandfathers, both of whom risked their lives in WWI and WWII, grappling with the implications of Charter "rights and freedoms" (sic) for these parasites, who have neither fought for the freedoms of Canadians nor contributed in any useful way to Canadian society.

ENOUGH ALREADY.

Posted by: batb at June 17, 2008 3:36 PM

Reader's Tip of the Day:

Those of us who need to shut up are the ones answering the loquacious troll.

DON'T DO IT.

DON'T EVEN BE TEMPTED TO DO IT.

DUCT TAPE YOUR KEYBOARD IF YOU HAVE TO.

Posted by: batb at June 17, 2008 3:41 PM

batb

again slandering I am happy you plan to get tape your keyboard for not slandering any more
my plan is work then
plus if the person be Candian citizen then what the government do stil go and ask you grand pa to direct us
so many people immigran to Canda because they were poor or life treat

but so many smart educated skill immigrant are come here to Canada with no refugee or otehr execuse with no problmes attached to it
with less government help but it does not mean they have no right to explain their view to parlement too

I came to Canada with no problems from past or future then I am more knowledgeable and understand of what I am talking about

I only say it is better slander to get calm down and find new topic to play with if you have opinion say it politely with class

Posted by: haye at June 17, 2008 3:55 PM

"Muslim and Isalm is usual thing who made unusual are racist and ignorant people like you Irwin"

Since when is Islam a race? And considering that your prophet routinely raped a nine year old girl, as well as his many slaves and captives, not to mention his butchery of thousands of innocents, what's with your sermon on morality?

Certainly, a Muslim of all people shouldn't be accusing others of hatred and racism, given what's contained in your holy texts and what your imams teach you. Not a stone you should be throwing.

Anyhow, here is one source for the Muslim butchery of 2.5 million Hindus in East Pakistan.

The roots of this jihad on the Indian sub-continent began in 1947, when the British departed South Asia and granted independence to the sovereign states of India and Pakistan. India chose to establish a secular democracy and a legal system based on English Common and Statutory Law. Pakistan, however, was founded under the leadership of the Muslim League, later renamed the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, and based its governance on Islamic law. At the time, the Hindu minority in West Pakistan constituted 29% of the new nation's population and 23% of the population of West Pakistan. But, by the start of the India-Pakistan War of 1971, some 2.5 million Hindu citizens of Pakistan had been massacred. Soon thereafter, when East Pakistan was established as the People's Republic of Bangladesh, 10 million Hindu refugees fled to India.

In the summary of a 1971 report to a U.S. Senate judiciary committee investigating the problem of refugees and settlement in South Asia, U.S. Sen. Edward Kennedy wrote of the situation,
"Field reports to the U.S. Government, countless eye-witness journalistic accounts, reports of International agencies such as World Bank and additional information available to the subcommittee document the reign of terror which grips East Bengal (East Pakistan). Hardest hit have been members of the Hindu community who have been robbed of their lands and shops, systematically slaughtered, and in some places, painted with yellow patches marked ‘H.' All of this has been officially sanctioned, ordered and implemented under martial law from Islamabad."[1]

- The Art of War on Terror: Triumphing over Political Islam and the Axis of Jihad - Moorthy Muthuswamy, 2007

Posted by: irwin daisy at June 17, 2008 4:16 PM

i did some research who slander Islam and Muslim
for some reasons i do not know why

these group are slande islam for so much hate speech:

1) Catholic woman it does not matter where hey come from they like free sex and see Islam ban tehm I did not see cathloc men are slander so much

2) Jewish men they hate Islam as I did not see Jewish woman dislike Islam so much, history of Jewish war cause they hate Islam

3) I saw comonist men dislike Islm to have abosute freedom not bleive god made them hate Islam

4) I saw men and woman in some area in European shape ( germany, egnland, Denmaark, romania kosovo.. ) in whie skin Englsh backgroun one who never met Muslim as freind tehy slander Islam more they are racis hate reason

5) I saw also American ( men and woman both)media are slande Islam not american people for discrimination in thier corrupted politician in USA like to slaner Islam for politiclay and power and discrimination reason

while I do not know why not stop and how we can stop them by laws

Posted by: haye at June 17, 2008 5:27 PM

I'm trying to picture my grandfathers, both of whom risked their lives in WWI and WWII, grappling with the implications of Charter "rights and freedoms" (sic) for these parasites, who have neither fought for the freedoms of Canadians nor contributed in any useful way to Canadian society."


If the Indians fought and died with us in both wars does that count.

Posted by: Right of centre at June 17, 2008 5:32 PM

There is not death penaliy in Islam if some girlno wear hijab ( cover hair) and if they guy did killed his daughter is crime and court deal with it

in some Muslim country you may go to jail for few days if you not wear scarf or wear revealing cloth but not death penalty

again one news while all of us know even if you were right and the person is guilty of crime you can go and do by your hand do the justice aht is we have law every where this is obvious for all of us know the crime law butwhen you see people report that crime try to link this to Islam fault
while the person has anger problem

as main root of crime is anger in most cases

see otehr story that Turkey force woman not cover your hair when seat in chair to listen to lecture in univesity since big guy sais state seperated to relgion
what the men do tah think can force woman cover it or take it offf I saw news in france Candia also has some problems wearing hijab
while these freedom of choice of woman in Islam to do or not
again people who cover eyes and lips and mouth are not part of Islam law that is part of culture in some area in Muslim countires such as Afanistan and Saudi in among Wahabii branch of Islam
if some one sneeze all Muslim are to blame
1,2 billion ( 1200,000,000 Muslim)guyes if 0.000001 percent criminal still is too many number you can se at least
8000 crime per year in Canada then we have
can take at least 1200 above criminal can be repoeted from peopel who are born Muslim can be predicated

again this news is nothing to do with Islam laws since that is not in Islam said go and kill your daughter is she isnot wear it
then do not slander it again
but do not take it off byforce as turkey goverment tried to do so as crime too

Posted by: haye at June 17, 2008 5:49 PM

Irwin:

I think you are evil man and you only read one book about Islam which was writtne by sic or Hindo Idian guy solmoan rushdi who knows may be Irwin is Solmon Roshdi himself

before I answer you first sentence about prophet Mohammad I encourage you go and study more marrige book in Islam and knwo rules in Islam before you open your dirty moth saying prophet Mohammad rape the girls as west date show the men in west are rapers of gilrs and destroying womanhood in west

you better wash your mouth before you say aobut prophet Mohammad any more
next I am not sex educationar or has time too much only study life of Mohamadand his wives
but I know

prophet Mohamd was 20 years old or close to that age or above 20 marry first to Khadigeh pbuh who was 25 years older than Prophet Mohammad
it means prophemt Mohaamad first wife and he never marry any wife when he were with Khadigeh pbuh until she dies and he married again

it proof his youth were going to olde lady not favor for all men it proof he is no young rapers and he is not see also marry woman who already married once Khadighe has any problmes
whiel arab wrodlculture are must see or marry virgine is get them in too much problmes so far

on other hand when war started that numberof men decreased and adultry increased in one occastion prophet Mohamad allow to have 4 wifes or in case your wife not able to have child you can have anoteh wife and pay money for first one
not like billionar Mr. THomoson leave fist wife in hospital with new born baby and go after new wife for pleasure or see exmaple of price charlse he could have two wives better to let his young wife get killed taht way

next when he was older he in link with Aiyesheh father in some political things I blive and Aiyeshe was 9 years old who marry prophet mOhammad
again marry young age is not favor ofall men in world but in reality we can see too many young gilrs able to be acive sexually too then in reality we have men marry older aga and we have man marry young aga and we have seen young teenger has sex and we saw that also seen men have one wife but affiar with otehrwoman can sayin fact they can have more than one wife in some cases if we see all said cases

now we have to see the law in Islamic country is not allow to marry until age 16 to 18 for girls then we can say that law is changeble and law of Islam in base is not changable

otehr issue is when we have real example of some choice of young gilr like to have live to marry can we have right to stop them or let hem to go have aids as we can see black and arab young age marry as theri body and growth of them are get more mature in warm area tehn cold area and if you compare 14 years old girl and boys in middle east with west they are act more mature

again we see in real life we have this example for their choice cut complication made law to prevent it but still will happend daily that teenger has go with sexs

again life of prophet like Noh has too many wifes or moses the same and jesis never married or Mohamad has strange married of with o lder woman 25 years older htan his aga and then 9 years old or permited to hav 4 wife permenet and more if the war started

then we can see men are diffente from other men and some men are needs are diffenrte than oteh men but adultry meaing in Islam is no what you describe it while we can see adulty increase in west that some thing wrong in your education hat not work well even by law you say do not do it they will do it then this law need to reveiw to find better solution for today century and not slander Prophet Mohamd without you need to read year by year life of prophet Mohamd why he did and what politiclay right for him to do so what his message is he agree for age definly no he was not care about age for marriegae as his choice is Muslim men do the same No this did change by some laws but raping girl si snot proper word you are using and slander again
again for me I think I am tlaking Solmon Rushdi or Irwin Daisy talk similar to me about Islam

Posted by: haye at June 17, 2008 6:17 PM

right of centre: I don't catch your drift.

Native Canadians did fight in WWI and WWII and distinguished themselves. Check out Dust My Broom, a post by "Krazy," with a photo of his father in his army uniform with medals.

'Talk in my family for generations that we have Native blood through a great-grandmother. If you could see the women in my family--high cheek bones, darker than dark brown hair, "Mohawk eyes"--you might think we have some Mohawk warriors amongst us.

Any more questions?

Posted by: batb at June 17, 2008 6:48 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^
sorry I meant East Indian.

If they fought and died on our side does that give them the right to be here?

Posted by: Right of centre at June 17, 2008 8:43 PM

Haye,

for the love of God invest in a spell checker. You may be trying to make valid points on this blog but your grotesque spelling makes you appear ,at best, retarded.

Painful dude.....

Posted by: missing link at June 17, 2008 8:55 PM

Haye,

for the love of God invest in a spell checker. You may be trying to make valid points on this blog but your grotesque spelling makes you appear ,at best, retarded.

Painfull dude.....

Posted by: missing link at June 17, 2008 8:56 PM

I can't believe anyone even reads that drivel and doesn’t simply scroll over it.

Anyway, can’t the moderator ban that IP address?

Posted by: Knight 99 at June 17, 2008 9:15 PM

I am not good history teller I am only give you hint for you to go to source and read with people who know better than me more detail

in continue I heard from Irwin who said prophet mohamad did rape gilr named Aisheh 9 years old to rape the girl

I said some point some background before commens
still more detail about this marriage

Such as first prophet wife Khadigeh pbuh who was 20 years older than Prophet Mohammad she was divorced lady and prophet was her second husband with her until she died for more than 20 years

You have to understand the point of century prophet was there and city of Mekeh was full of statues and people pray so many gods look like statues And adultery and Arab has too many wife late prophet Mohammed made them ban to 4 wives and war started again and so many condition for having so many wives


The important point during war that Prophet Mohammad has wives also none was virgin
Except Aisheh

Prophet Mohammad said from history he only loved his two wives one Khadeigeh and one Aisheh ; Aisheh father name Abobakr is later become leader and more political reason he marry first with young girl

people know prophet marry Aisheh she was 9 years old but nobody know if there was intercourse between them and why prophet choose so young to have virgin wife and later he encourage to marry and give your daughter to stay virgin

After as you can see most Muslim keep the young daughter in not have sex before marriage as best example prophet try to teach them

If prophet want to pick any older lady in those time for sure they already were married or has with some one else in older age woman and but in order to keep young not with other you must pick them when they were so young

Then this become culture not law to keep daughter less in contract with other men even Italian and protégées also usually have marry with one man

This is not innovation in Islam

Prophet Mohammed did not marry Aisheh for 9 for rape her he plan to teach Arab not let your daughter go with too many men

prophet Mohammad has one daughter from Khadigeh named Fatemeh I believe protégées also has statue so Fatemeh I am not sure is the same person they respect or not

Then Fatemeh married family member of Prophet Virgin to Ali pbuh

prophet Mohammad was business man and politician and such as when city of Makeh who pried to all statues they decide to accept Islam they come with one problem s said if we become Muslim we made money for people as visitor came and visit us here for our status god

Some people saying house of Makeh is design with the same idea to bring Muslim together and keep profit of Makeh safe and let only pray with one god
Means prophet always find solution for people to pray one god not sake of money pray statues

Immigration was also did by prophet to save his life that he moved to different city when they gave him news some group plant to kill him he change and immigrate to other location

I know I am worse to explain history you need to go and find life of prophet Mohammad and analysis of his life and his story ( Hadith) left from him you will love this man that all billion Muslim like and respect prophet because he was prophet of god

I think you need to study Islam in brief take you at least one year only know major thing about Isalm you can go to some mosque they will provide free information and time to teach you or you can find information in web pages

or ask librarin to bring some book about Isalm for to read from Muslim writer not nonmuslim to know isalm is not what you think

you also should keep in mind the when and where and history of arab in that time and how Prophet Mohamad made those to pray god it was difficult job he did never slander prophet Mohamad

I am extremly busy person but I brought some important point in past few weeks for you open for you some is my opinion and I hope this open your heart to respect Muslim
and not listen to slander people

you may not hear from me some time most you can be happey I am sure my point will open your heart
Knight99 I wish you become from jewish change to become muslim one day Dust broom not support drug indians even some one try to abuse them stay strong or ET commonist pray god one day

Posted by: haye at June 17, 2008 11:18 PM

right of centre: Can you read--or, more to the point, can you process what you read?

To your question: "If they [East Indians] fought and died on our side does that give them the right to be here?" my response is a direct quote from my post above, which you seem to have a problem with--why, I don't know:

"'Time to ship back all immigrants WHO BREAK THE LAW IN CANADA [my emphasis], if they're not yet Canadian citizens."

I don't think I can make myself any clearer, and would appreciate your not obfuscating the point I am making: IMMIGRANTS...WHO BREAK THE LAW IN CANADA...AND ARE NOT YET CANADIAN CITIZENS...SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO STAY IN CANADA...AND ABUSE OUR HOSPITALITY...EITHER IN JAIL...OR ON OUR STREETS.

Capiche? Entiende? Comprenez? Get it?

Posted by: batb at June 18, 2008 7:42 AM

I'm sure you're a nice, well meaning fellow, haye. However, it is you who must read about your prophet and honestly analyse his actions and sayings contained in the Hadith.

If you are honest with yourself you will see that he was anything but a good man. He was evil to the core. Some of his crimes:

A mass-murderer (beheaded 600 - 900 innocent men and boys from the Qurayza tribe), pedophile (married Aiysha when she was 6, consumated the marriage at 9), pervert (married his sons wife), Assassin (gave the orders to have at least 5 poets murdered), thief and pirate (conducted at least 30 raids on caravans, killing or enslaving the captives and stealing the booty - he personally retained 20% of all the stolen goods and slaves), and slave keeper and merchant.

This is all in your texts. Read it and decide. However, lying getting mad, or attempting to justify Mohammads actions is irrelevant, when the proof of his criminality is there for all to read in the Islamic texts.

Posted by: irwin daisy at June 18, 2008 9:32 AM

I dont have a problem with your quote Batb you just seem to be a little wound up.
I am not against you I agree you break a law you get shipped home.

I was asking a question in regards to you saying how your family members made sacrifices for this country and I asked if the sacrifices that the East Indians made in the cause should in any way be justification for them to be over hear. Obviously you cant read as I was only asking the above question.

Now go run along now and try and fight with somebody else.

Please dont answer me though as I can see by the way you fly off the handle and like to try and cut peole down your opinion has no value to me.

Capiche? Entiende? Comprenez? Get it?

Posted by: Right of centre at June 18, 2008 10:06 AM

Right of centre @ 10:03 a.m.: "Please dont answer me..."

Okay. No hay problema.

So, talking to myself: 'Still can't figure out how the question about East Indians fighting on our side--and does that count?--has anything to do with my comment about my grandfathers' contributions to the war efforts, 1914-18, 1939-45...

La-de-da-de-da. ;-)

Posted by: batb at June 18, 2008 11:17 AM

haye, all you are doing is reinforcing the idea that our western values will always be superior to your own.

Posted by: cliff from montreal at June 18, 2008 12:47 PM

batb:
Here Here!!


paul

Posted by: eastern paul at June 18, 2008 11:34 PM
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