CBC = Idiots

To coin a phrase of some previous comments.....

Fire.Them.All.

Bev Oda screwed this thing up. The minister of Heritage and the CBC should get off her...well u get the idea. The CONservatives should not have let this debacle happen on their watch.

You're right.

They should instead just scrap the CBC.

Too funny. I love this.

Bravo CTV!

Some years ago I was moved to contact one of the NHL teams regarding a seating matter and was informed that, notwithstanding the odd player slump or team slump the most contentious issue by far to be dealt with was the organist.

Life could be very interesting around the HNIC offices for the forseeable future. (And likely beyond!)

CRB

The CBC paid $500 every broadcast, they are well shot of the noise.

Well! Foster Hewitt(SP) spent a life time announcing Hockey Night in Canada. It seems to me that he was an original partner in Batton (CTV) The theme may actually be home!

Now if CTV can just snipe Ron, Don and Kelly, we could shut down CBC entirely.

Well, there's Stompin Tom's hockey song or the first four notes of the "Magnificent Seven".

I can't help but feel that there's a bit of misdirection in this whole thing by the CBC. They've previously announced that there were going to be major changes to the broadcast next year, including less Bob Cole and more other announcers (some will cheer that, others won't).

I feel that HNIC wants to get hip with the kids and the old song, which is a beauty, had to go.

So the CBC is doing something novel and *new* by having a contest, a sort of HNIC Idol ... except that TSN did the same thing about 4-5 years ago: both Bryan Adams and Moe Berg had entries.

The CBC is pathetic.

Mississauga Matt: The CBC is pathetic.

What more is there to say?

Except, GET. RID. OF. IT.

I saw something about the CBC saying that CTV could afford to buy the song because CTV has much more revenue, and that buying the song wasn't good value for money.

The CBC gets at least a billion dollars of revenue without even trying!! Tax dollars at work.

If they bought the song, then at least there would have been something of value left at the CBC.

Ah, competition. Loverly, ain't it? The hockey theme lives on, CBC gets bum-checked into the boards. [splat!]

Kate, you've made my day.

I can just picture the faces at the CBC Grand Poobah working breakfast today. BWAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!!

The other thing is that Doris Claman released the original versions of the song a few years back, and I highly recommend you pick them up.

I was always fond of the “outro” version of the song, the one HNIC used to play in the 70’s after the game when they rolled the credits. You barely hear even a few seconds of that version these days.

And the standard version that most people are familiar with is presented in its original form without the guitars and synths – it really is a terrific bit of writing.

Change!

Good for CTV! It's no surprise that the value of a truly Canadian tradition, a piece of Canadian culture, was thrown on the trash heap by the CBCPravda was it?

What's a CBC? Isn't that some kind of a blood test? "I need a CBC and a Chem 7, stat!"

Right?

I heard CBCpravda is looking at using the theme from "the Good, the Bad and the UGLY". more as a commemeration of being outfoxed.

How could CBC afford that song AND the big budget to shoot that runaway Canadian culture hit program, Little Mosque on the Prairie? They are on a strict billion dollar budget, and the president's recent request to increase the CBC budget for seven years has gone unanswered.

*boo hoo*

At $500 per broadcast they have been stealing that song for years!

What's even more funny is the leftard, aa's indignation. Expecting the Conservatives to help the disgusting liberal propoganda rat hole.

Too bad CTV stepped up so soon to buy the tune. We could have staged a "hockey fans from coast-to-coast and Newfoundland including shut-ins and hospital patients" campaign to "keep the tune - punt the network". Ghosts of Foster Hewitt and Murray Westgate are summoned to gastigate the uncaring Mothercorp (Oh how I wanted to use a different word just now)

The time has long ago come for the CBC to be pulled off of the public teat. They are completely out of touch with the minions whose tax dollars they squander at every turn. Cut it loose and let it sink or swim on its own.

CTV shoots!!!!! CTV scooooooores!!!!!!

The CBC being pathetic notwithstanding, I cannot fathom why there is so much outrage over an annoying piece of music. To call it "Canada's second anthem" is an insult to our national anthem and all others such as "God Save The Queen" and "The Maple Leaf Forever".
If one considers this music to be part of the Canadian culture, then I weep for It's future.
Furthermore, to even suggest the Government intervene is to laugh. Or cry. I'm not sure which.

I heard one interesting comment from the head of CBC Sports yesterday, amongst all the spin. He said he was surprised CTV would want to play the song, seeing as it would be an advertisement for HNIC in the minds of most Canadians.

That one bit rang true to me - the song is inextricably linked to HNIC in my own mind.

So rather than renew at the old rate, they try to trammel an old lady into selling the farm, but she outlasts them until the heroic young buckaroo gallops over the horizon....wonderful stuff. Could make a series out of it. And then a contest for a new theme, with a 100,000 Cdn prize? Wow! But I'll bet in the fine print we'll see: "all entries become the property of the CBC", so the winner will have sold out cheap.

So rather than renew at the old rate, they try to trammel an old lady into selling the farm, but she outlasts them until the heroic young buckaroo gallops over the horizon....wonderful stuff. Could make a series out of it. And then a contest for a new theme, with a 100,000 Cdn prize? Wow! But I'll bet in the fine print we'll see: "all entries become the property of the CBC", so the winner will have sold out cheap.

The comments at the Herald are both hilarious and to be expected. The stupid CBC (well duhh) or the evil CTV looking to, gasp!, make money.

I particularly liked it when I was told to shut up....if ever there was a way to guarentee another post out of me.

Maybe if the CBC exec.s had of backed off their Expense Account's, the monies could have been used to pay the 3mill needed to retain the rights.

What was that again that was being reported just a few months ago, Oh ya now i remember.

"Puttin On the Ritz"
CBC Executives Live it Up at Taxpayers Expense, staying in lavish hotels at $800 A Nite.
Mar.17/08 Toronto Sun

So - CTV "snatches" the hockey song. Good riddance.

now here's the best part...
the CBC is still being sued by the songs composer Dolores Claman for $2.5M to $3M....
the CBC has admitted during discovery to the facts contained in the Statement of Claim such as that
the CBC was allowing companies to offer her song as a "ring tone" in exchange for a commitment to advertise on the CBC...

the CBC misappropriated the use of an intellectual property to the benefit of its advertisers and they got caught
and now the CBC is on the hook for a $3M law suit over the use of the HNIC theme
which has been sold to CTV

the CBC has been hijacked by amateurs and the mentally challenged

this is the feel-good story of the year

now here's the best part...
the CBC is still being sued by the songs composer Dolores Claman for $2.5M to $3M....
the CBC has admitted during discovery to the facts contained in the Statement of Claim such as that
the CBC was allowing companies to offer her song as a "ring tone" in exchange for a commitment to advertise on the CBC...

the CBC misappropriated the use of an intellectual property to the benefit of its advertisers and they got caught
and now the CBC is on the hook for a $3M law suit over the use of the HNIC theme
which has been sold to CTV

the CBC has been hijacked by amateurs and the mentally challenged

this is the feel-good story of the year

I think the fee of 500.00 was for each time the theme was played, rather than for the one night of hockey in which is was used. And I wrong?

If the theme plays four times in an evening that would be two grand right?

On another point, I do enjoy the humor here with the CTV grab and the CBC on the hook for two or three Million. I also salute the composer of this song for her shrewd business sense. Canada could use a lot more like her.

Lastly, I lost interest in hockey after I grew up. I haven't watched a game in thirty years. I hear it's the much the same, over-paid young men beating the crap out of each other for entertainment. I also noted the the season when from about five months to pretty much year around with a few weeks off in the summer.

Who has time for that?

Buck up John V... I hear the CeeB will offer a tiddlywinks tournament later on this summer.
Now that you're all grown up, this is likely right down your alley.

CBCpravda being a gubmint department likely thought they were just falling in line with the long legacy of Ottawa robbing its citizens.

CBCpravda - now stealing from old ladies.

Well, if the CBC spent a little more money on stuff Canadians want to watch and less money on Al Jazeera training camps the Communist Broadcasting Cretins would be more relevant to Canadians.

I hope this is Harper's "scary hidden agenda" to discredit the worthless creeps and allow the government to pull the plug.

Here's a question: How pathetic are the lives of the Canadian collective that they'd be so up in arms over the CBC's loss of the use of a song?

It's a song! The intro to a television show!

heres a CBCpravda story on a transgendered "athlete" , one that takes all the advantage of self produced testerone and then gets chopped and still doenst make the qualifying times. why must CBCpravda always champion the bizarre and the odd and the ridiculous?

http://www.cbc.ca/olympics/story/2008/06/09/f-olympics-kristenworley.html#socialcomments

Why don't CTV-TSN just buy Cherry's and McLean's contracts and get the NHL to allow them more game broadcasts.

CBC can have Hrudey, (the new nerd world version of Howie Meeker) and the other dead head commentary team.

I enjoyed TSN's NHL coverage far better than CBCs for a couple of years now and the only reason I watch CBC during regular season is the catch a first period and coaches corner.

yeah, if it weren't for Cherry's rants, HNIC suks, so does the hockey

Tiger Woods, "nobody watches hockey"

Now if we can just get rid of old Donny Newman the clean-up will be well under way.

The CBC apologists are now trying to appear as though they care a fig about our money, what a joke.

What a hoot reading these comments.
I wrote to Scott Moore when I heard they had broken off negotiations and had implemented a contest for a new ditty.
He actually wrote back, saying he chose to respond to those who did not call him nasty names.
He was into feeling much more sorry for himself than in renewing efforts to buy the rights to the song. He did not want to be remembered as the CBC Exec who lost the song.
My husband and I told him: "Pay the lady what she wants , whatever it is she asks."
With taxpayers money and advertising money they have more than enough to pay what is required.
CBC is not interested in Canada as a country any further than what they can gouge out of us.
Whoever put these morons in their executive positions should be fired along with all of them. When will we learn in this country that we do not need or want the CBC. OR the CRTC for that matter. There are things I want to watch without that erstwhile body making those decisions for me. This is just another indication that their mindset is that they know more what we should want and what we should watch than we do ourselves and for that we are to pay them more than a billion a year.
Yes, Kate... FIRE THEM ALL!
I really do no know why the Harper Government has not done it already.
Gotta love CTV. Just gotta love the whole story!!

Mark my words, HNIC itself will be next to go.

this one has it all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7-yInOB5ss&feature=related

everything but a 5 minute rundown on the leafs in the middle of the last series of the playoffs. whats with that. they even had film of the leafs winning the cup, of course it was all scratches on sepia now.

Like many Canucks, I shook my head in disgust when I heard the idiots at the CBC wouldn't renew their rights The Hockey Song. Then I laughed my ass off big time when I heard how CTV snatched this property away from CBC and in the process made them look like the utter fools we know them to be.

As one opinion writer on a dead tree publication website back east so wisely noted - it doesn't really matter what CTV paid! Here's that link.

IMO, CTV probably approached the deal with an openness Ms. Claman appreciated - pay out a lump sum to her now for the in perpetuity rights, rather than have her estate have to deal with an ongoing licensing deal producing revenue over many years. Makes it all that much simpler for her and her family, doesn't it?

CTV: Kudos! What a legendary marketing coup!

CBC: I offer a great big FOCK YOU from out West!

And no, I really don't think the tune is as associated with CBC in as much as it is associated with "Hockey Night in Canada". Sure that property has the CBC logo, but for me as a 25+ year hockey fan, when I think of HNIC, sorry CBC, but I don't think of YOU. Of course your imept hockey commentators are another thing, outside the good work that Don & Ron do.

And golly, wasn't it CBC that almost lost Don and Ron, separately, a few years back over contract disputes. Ha! This time, CBC didn't pull it out of the fire. We can only hope that Ron will walk when given the opportunity. Don? Sure, but isn't he about to retire?

Whatever. Hopefully this is the beginning of the end of CBC's association with the national game.

In the words of Nelson Muntz -- Hey CBC: "HA-HA!"

Only a miracle could save these hockey challenged lepers.

CBC needs the real Messiah; at least when Canadians walk on water they make sure its frozen to a depth of 30 cm!!

Cheers

Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht
Commander in Chief
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”

The one thing I find ironic in this thread is that for the first time in SDA history we are on CTV's side...

There's a first time for everyting! And a last...

Ain't capitalism grand!

And Don Cherry was one of the reasons I learned how to use the mute button and found out I liked watching the whole game with the sound off.

Thanx Don.

Excuse. What is CBC?

Yes, Richjard @ 1201, it is a tune intro to a hockey game. But many, many, many peoploe grew up hearing this. It is emblematic and nostalgic for them. Like Henderson's goal.

It is a Canadian theme, tradition. And will will continue gratis CTV.

Yes, Richjard @ 1201, it is a tune intro to a hockey game. But many, many, many peoploe grew up hearing this. It is emblematic and nostalgic for them. Like Henderson's goal.

It is a Canadian theme, tradition. And will will continue gratis CTV.

That kind of proves my point... If you define your nationality, and your country, with a television show's theme song, you're pathetic. You deserve neither a nationality nor a country.

CBC thinks that HNIC is bigger than just a song.

The song helped make it that big and that same attitude will be HNIC'c undoing.

Ex. they paid to keep Maclean, they knew they had too.

Soon HNIC will be irrevellent. They will not be able to keep CTV away from Saturday night broadcasts forever. Especially since they allow the HNIC brand to be weakened.

Here's a question: How pathetic are the lives of the Canadian collective that they'd be so up in arms over the CBC's loss of the use of a song?

It's a song! The intro to a television show!

Posted by: Richard Evans at June 10, 2008 12:01 PM

Well a Indo Canadian was interviewed in India and he stated that in his household in CANADA that when the theme song was played before a hockey game the family left the dinner table and went to watch the game. It's part of our culture and a tradition in Canada, not the white fellas Richard but every single hockey loving Canadian who come in different races, sex, religion and culture.

Sneer at it, but the reality is the far left hate our history our culture and the unique traditions that make us Canada.

CBC should be shut down and the funding used for health care, it's apparent the CBC loaths and hates our traditions as much as their beloved leftarded fans.

Sneer at it, but the reality is the far left hate our history our culture and the unique traditions that make us Canada.

That's right, and they've replaced your real history and your real culture and your real, unique traditions with a theme song for a television show and like mice, you're blindly following the pied piper with no concern for anything but the tune...

Get a grip...

Here's a question: How pathetic are the lives of the Canadian collective that they'd be so up in arms over the CBC's loss of the use of a song?
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Bingo. Now if we could just get CTV to buy the rights to broadcast HNIC or a reasonable facsimile and let CBC sink into oblivion, then I'd be happy. I never watch hockey. I couldn't care less about it. I can't stand the CBC, and I don't want my tax dollars going to pay for the television network. If they would privatize the damn thing, I wouldn't have any problem with it because my taxes would not be paying for it.

they could always adopt Mclean@Mcleans improvement of I've been Everywhere Man. Or rent a Mcdonalds jingle,,

Further to my earlier post -- the best line in the story on the Hamilton Spectator's site: "CTV didn't announce the price it paid for the jingle, written 40 years ago by Vancouver native Dolores Claman. It doesn't matter, the gloat alone was priceless."

Exactly. Big time HA-HA! on CBC.

CBC Sports executive director Scott Moore: “I don’t think the taxpayers would have liked that”

"If they can justify that to their shareholders," Moore said, I don't think I can justify that to our critics.

Every time they play it, it's an advertisement for CBC."

As to Moore's apologist comments -- hey CBC: you dumbasses could have found the money by dumping some things we taxpayers don't like - say for instance all the anti-Bush leftist docs broadcast on Newsworld. Yep. Stop spending MY MONEY on garbage and lies. Oh, and hey you CBC idjits - you can also save some more money by firing that reporter who re-cut an interview with Harper to deliberately make him appear to say the opposite of what he had in fact said.

How about some accountability CBC? How about stop spending our tax dollars on outright propaganda? Yeah, I know it's far too late for the CBC to ever clean up its leftarded act. But one could hope. Meanwhile, we can just laugh at their utter incompetence as they get their heads handed to them by private enterprise once again.

In one respect I can understand how some people have an emotional attachment to "The Hockey Song".

Growing up in Fort Mac back in the day when the only TV broadcasts we received were four or five hours of CBC North each day, Saturday nights and HNC were a big deal. The Hockey Song was a clarion call to a lot of us kids, it signaled a link to something much larger than our little community...TROC...and it inspired dreams of hockey greatness.

That said, I don't think of that song as our second national anthem but rather as an old friend that stirs memories of a time in my life when all I wanted to do was play hockey.

Times change and we all grow up. Unfortunately the CBC has neither changed or grown. IMO the real story here is the petulant behavior of the spoiled brats at the CBC.

With a 1B per year taxpayer funded headstart the execs at mothercorp are bemoaning the fact that they can't compete.

This from the brain trust themselves:

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/story/2008/06/09/hnic-song.html

The pertinent bit:

CBC Sports executive director Scott Moore said he was disappointed but not surprised the song was shopped elsewhere.

"The two sides were so far apart and there was so much bad blood that we knew a deal would be difficult," he said. "The reality is it takes two sides to do a deal and we tried everything we could to do a deal.

"We offered arbitration, mediation — we offered to meet their price. On Friday, when it came right down to it, we never got a response from them on our latest offer and find out, in the meantime, they appeared to be negotiating with CTV."

Moore said CBC had negotiated for 14 months but to no avail, and that the agency was asking for $2.5 million to $3 million for use in perpetuity.

"If they got that from CTV, we would never have been able to get there," Moore told CBC Newsworld. "It is not a responsible price for us.

"If that is the price CTV wants to pay, it won't be the first time nor will it be the last time, probably, that they outbid us for something. They have a lot more profits than we do."

Soo...as I understand this.... CBC simultaneously "offered to meet their price" and found the price irresponsible.

Beyond that, they are also unable to compete in an economic meritocracy even with a silver spoon advantage.

Entitled punks.

Syncro

CTV are spending fools, much like the CBC.

CBCs idea of a contest is OK, but $20 thousand would have been enough of a prize.

At $100,000, they are just throwing away 80 grand of our cash.

Oh yeah! Means nothing to them. = TG